[000:00:00;00] stove from barodyanka in the kyiv region, these are seven-year-old masha, 12-year-old anya and 16-year-old dasha melnichenko, whose fate has not been known for more than a year, and we are asking for your help in finding them, the least you can do is share this video on your social networks this can really help to find the girls. so, the girls lived with their mother and father in this five-story building in borodyanka at the address tsentralna 326. on march 1, 22nd , a russian bomb hit their house. the girls and their parents lived on the 5th floor of this building and the bomb hit the exact place where their apartment was on that day. unfortunately, people died, but neither the girls nor their parents were found among the victims; moreover, according to the locals, the melnichenko family

hid in the bomb shelter every day since the beginning of the war, and about an hour before the bombing, they were all seen in the shelter. however, since march 1, 22 , nothing is known about the fate of the sisters. the last person to communicate with the girls was their grandfather. it was he who turned to us with a request for help. the details are known to him , he called almost. at home and imagine the older sister dasha was forced to celebrate her 16th birthday in a bomb shelter. under the sound of sirens and bombings, i congratulated her on her birthday and she said, grandpa, i will have a real birthday, what is papa

startum, he came and congratulated them in podil this in the house where i decided well, where she gives birth, they celebrated 16 years in the basement when we talked with mr. oleksandr, in fact , he barely held back tears while talking about his granddaughters. she played the guitar, sang, passed the diesel show contest from half past one, she was filming high school, football, handball, singing , masha, this little one, i already learned to swim , now i haven’t seen how i swam, she says that this is exactly how she swims, you say, that’s exactly what she wants

to show that she is also out of touch, mr. oleksandr said that one of the disappearances talked to his son, that is, the girls' father , by the way . please look at the photo of the sisters' parents on march 1. since then, there has been no connection with melnichenko's family . nothing is known about the fate of the children. however, after the deoccupation , oleksandr came to borodyanka, talked to the locals, and they said that his relatives allegedly took the girls' father to belarus. they detained the sisters. they may be in an orphanage in belarus, but again this information is currently not confirmed to the last detail. i want them to return . i want to . i want to.

i want to. searching for his granddaughters, they must be, it can't be to sanctify the phones, no one did it, if the phones were taken, then someone should turn, who saw there, want to change, kiss, but no, it didn't happen. so i ask you to look carefully at the faces of the girls, if you know at least some information about them or where they might be, please call our hotline immediately . 116,000 calls from all mobile operators in ukraine are free. you can also write to the child tracing chatbot service in telegram

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monday to friday saturday at 8:00 p.m. repeat at 12:10 p.m. i congratulate the defender, friends, this is a worldview program. my name is vasyl zima. today, we gathered to talk about the new horde sequorum, the new world order, or is it really a war? what is happening in ukraine today is one of the elements, or perhaps even the epicenter of the formation of this new world order, how powerful and key world players are playing in this war and around this war, what is the place of ukraine in the new world order? is this just the speculation of conspiracy theorists and nothing of the sort is happening , we are simply dealing with a local war that will not resolve the balance of power in the world after its completion, no

matter how it ends. i have invited interesting specialists and well-known guests to the conversation we are in touch yevgeny magda, he is the executive director of the institute of world politics, yevgeny, i congratulate you, i congratulate you, vasyl, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, i want to ask you right away: in your opinion, not in your opinion, in your evaluations. do you think there is a war in ukraine today? the epicenter, or perhaps one of the elements of the formation of a new world order. are we dealing only with a local war, not even a continental one, which will definitely not change the balance of forces in the world, and the key world players around this war are not currently forming this new world order, please

we are observing a paradoxical situation, on the one hand, the russian-ukrainian war is obviously the most powerful, the largest in the world in the 21st century, and in europe after 1945, this is for sure , and we see how this situation actually develops, how the threats to use nuclear weapons sound, what are the consequences of this war , but the russian- the ukrainian war is not a world war, and this is evidenced by the fact that, on the one hand , ukraine is supported by the rammstein coalition, and on the other hand, there is such a thing, you know, on a strict leash, there is belarus next to russia and in free swimming there is iran somewhere behind behind is china and behind the back is russia , but still not

in such a way as to spoil relations with the united states and the european union , that's how i see it then . they are conspiracy theories, but in any case, people should have professional answers to them, because if you listen to conspiracy theorists, especially these people who talk about uh, reptiloids , by the way, about raptovods, i immediately remember uh, yesterday, a statement was made. i'm sorry that i i'm digressing a bit, but this is not a distraction, it's to the topic of the study. yesterday, a statement was made by a former representative of the intelligence of the united states of america. he participated in open hearings in the congress of the united states of america and uh, he said that uh, in the pentagon, the department of defense of the united states the united states has non-human samples, there are non-human biological samples. he did not say extraterrestrial, but not human biological samples , that the pentagon also has samples of

extraterrestrial detailed devices, and after that , a tweet appeared. therefore, it was dmitry's tweet medvedev, the former president of the russian federation, now he is its deputy head of the security council, and of the russian federation, he said there he took a photo of zelensky, biden, er, scholz , macron, several more people, he said, he called them vertebrates, that is, there are enough of such people who , that's all that they see around them, they can call reptilian extraterrestrial beings who here they are waging their war on earth, but we will look at it from the point of view of science and from the point of view of common sense, so if we talk about conspiracy, we will say that this is a war between the states and russia, or the states of russia, china or the european states of europe, the states of russia , china , it is simply happening today on the territory of ukraine.

the war became unexpected and it was not some kind of preparation for the world showdown between the superpowers. unfortunately, this war was expected because, in any case, western intelligence knew about a large-scale invasion a few months before its implementation, but uh, in anyone and they reported this information to the relevant ukrainian officials, but on the one hand, on the other hand, it can be said that we are dealing with russia's desire to subjugate the world as and where it is only possible, that is, russia is trying to bluff because neither its economic even as the experience of more than 500

days has shown , the military capabilities are not enough to be such a bright military and political player. russia is not good enough for her. to get there to the atlantic yes, but i got caught and this is evidence that the russian military machine is far from what it is, it is not as powerful as it was often mythologized there and they said that it can do everything and is capable of everything in principle , it is not like that, they are not all, they are not everything they may not be able to do everything and we will. i think that we should pay attention more than once, because you see how things have turned out in our country now after the beginning of this great war, the west, the european west, was mobilized , first of all, in support of ukraine, in condemnation

of russia, in the introduction of sanctions against russia from every day of this war, the pressure of the west and monolithicity is getting stronger and stronger. well, there are different manifestations somewhere, but the main thing is exactly about this. after the start of this war , nato expanded, at least it got a new member on the 31st - this is finland, and on the 32nd, sweden , this is actually the question can be resolved in the near future, and i hope that, say, ukraine can become the 33rd member of nato, but in any case, nato expanded, this is also a consequence of this war, because if it were not for this war, finland would not have thought about joining nato and before that she was fine no russia did not threaten her in any way with her aggressive behavior, and this is already certain changes, and this bloc that russia formed for itself did not complete the formation of such a post-soviet one , too, now it has given a crack because the odkb is not as monolithic as it was, and ukraine, well, obviously, for sure will not become a member of this treaty

on collective security, that is, some cracks have gone, some new entities have appeared . here the question is whether russia will grow even more or the west will grow and then we can talk about the fact that it is being solved in ukraine now or not only in ukraine ukraine has really become the main battlefield for this war and well, it is sad to realize because the loss we are suffering they are huge and, in principle, frankly speaking, we will restore the economy of ukraine for a long time, and we will not be able to return anyone who died, the truth is the reality, mmm, we can

talk for a long time about what became the causes of the war, but there is a moment that is worth paying attention to ukraine was written off completely on the eve of the war , that is, they said that it simply would not be able to resist or that it would collapse under russian pressure, that the ukrainian army would cease to exist. literally a couple of days after the russian invasion , this did not happen. and we convinced everyone that ukraine exists as a state and will continue to exist as a state on the european political arena will do it quite successfully we actually managed to achieve this with the joint efforts of millions of our citizens

and this is evidence that ukraine as a happened, this is one of the main consequences of the russian-ukrainian war at the moment and that ukraine does not always position itself as a point in the confrontation between good and evil. i think this is a very big mistake because it is in this context that we have to show ourselves in this context that we have to to speak in this context, we must demonstrate that ukraine is a state capable of achieving greater success, we are now completing the process of forming the ukrainian political nation, and the war with russia is the catalyst of this process, the catalyst very powerful, to which we must also pay attention and work effectively with it. i think that we will be able to achieve appropriate success and

i think that we will be able to be among the countries that will shape the new world order, but for this we need not only to say why i am in nato, why are we not in the european union, we need our internal changes for this, if we are on the way to victory with russia in the war with russia, we will actually turn into russia lite at certain moments. this is absolutely not the case that we have, actually saying i need now i will ask you about what i often read in social networks of people who, well, mostly people who write this are people who are now, of course, somewhere and already feel tension and stress and

pain, well, ukrainians are not the same as they were before february 24 of last year and somewhere, some kind of fatigue, emotions are running high and you want to blame someone else for starting this war. we remember that the day before nato , during the free sit-in, they themselves heard statements from individual politicians. nato that war in this is not it started well, it seems that the west almost pushed us to this war and could have stopped it all. i don't know how i would write a book about the first year of the war . i studied a lot . i saw an incitement to war there, people did everything they could do diplomatically. maybe somewhere they did not resort to some more radical steps. but again , radical steps must be calculated , they cannot be resorted to just like that, and that is why the question sounds like this. this is nato's refusal to

proposals of russia when late at night in february, the ambassador of the united states of america in russia came to the buildings of the ministry of foreign affairs of the russian federation and gave the deputy minister who came out there, he visited him this rejection of the proposals not to expand nato and there were other proposals such words are heard in russia and here. but if we say that then the united states agreed to the proposal, they said, well, we will not expand to the east, and then they took it after some time and expanded, but there would be no war . do you agree with this thesis or not? do you agree? no, i do not agree because russia had sufficiently clear plans regarding ukraine and the development of hostilities. at the end of february 22nd, this is evidenced

by the fact that russia wanted to enter kyiv and change the government in kyiv . ukrainian resources worked in russia , and then russia began to move further, further to poland , further to belarus, further to moldova, further to the baltic countries, there is no court here, ukraine became a stone on which the russians broke their teeth and this is objective. at the moment, the reality is therefore to calculate that the russians could change their mind there. no

, i draw this conclusion from one simple thing. their mechanism of dehumanization of ukrainians was launched a long time ago. and actually european opportunities , european powers, but this did not happen , russia got stuck in ukraine and ukraine really turned into a shield for a number of european states. however, we still protect first of all myself, and then all other europeans. well, here is the last question i want to ask you. it seems to me to be very important and will give a better understanding of why western politicians are behaving this way and not differently now. well, they all behave differently, some more decisively like the british, some less so decisively, but in any case, everyone understands one way or another that russia is an existential threat to western

civilization, which actually grew out of the former ancient greek civilization from its values , and roman civilization is a phrase of the times napoleon also had a lot of laws written, because the european plus now lives on the desk, but what i wanted to ask about is whether our western partners are not stopping today the leaders of this western world in terms of anglo-saxon education . well, what they don't see until the end and what will the new world be like, because after this war, the new world was built anyway everything that brings death then also brings life, therefore it will be life , but it will not be the same as it was before february 24, do you think they will understand quickly in the west, first of all, and maybe our partners around the world, what will this new world be like, because it seems to me that there is a misunderstanding of what will boil in this cauldron of war, which is happening in ukraine today, somewhere is slowing down our partners, because either somewhere you have to push harder, give more weapons, and then you can do something

so under- that is, you don't understand what will come of this, i may have something even worse, or maybe there will be more of a threat, maybe it won't be as we planned. they are waiting think well, let's see, now there will be another counteroffensive ana, then we'll see what we threw ana wait wait or maybe russia will fall earlier or maybe putin will die and that 's slowing down because there is no determination to say the new world will be like this and we have to do everything to make it like that and there were no questions and suddenly he won't be like that and suddenly something will go wrong don't you think this misunderstanding until the end of the new model of the world, at least part of this world, is somewhere and forces our partners to keep looking at the map of hostilities expect what will brew again in this hellish

kazan of the ukrainian-ukrainian war. i think that the world will be multi-vector, that is already clear. i think that the west is afraid of a world without russia in the sense that a world without russia will strengthen china's position and i think that the role of china in this world will grow regional alliances and in this context, ukraine as a state which in the 21st century is the first to actually defend its independence with weapons in hand in conditions where its loss , the loss of independence could have huge consequences. it should claim to be leader, one of the leaders of the modern world, it should be clearly understood that we have, but our leadership it will not be one-time even after our victory in the war with russia, it will not become one-time you should not think that everyone will come and bring to the bank the keys

to the presidential palaces or to the prem cabinets of european countries no, we need to change within the country, we need to build relations with our neighbors, because i am sure that only through strong relations with our neighbors can we build an effective state, we need to act in such a way that we do not feel sad for ourselves and look for effective opportunities in order to quickly rebuild and build a strong state, because at the moment , for example, the question of dismantling russia has somehow gone off the agenda, it's true ugh, and this means that even the victory of ukraine will restore it territorial integrity will cause only a certain step, but not a complete one. in my opinion , there will also be a problem, that is, we will not have time to rest on our laurels after the victory, we have to

live and fight on, we have another way out there is no and we have to convey to our partners that the preservation of russia in its current form will become a deferred threat that may shoot not necessarily at the territory of ukraine, that may shoot at another state that russia decides to challenge and this will once again become a serious problem for the world thank you mr. yevgeny, thank you for taking the time to give your expert comments. yevhen makda, executive director of the institute of world politics and the writer, was not in touch with us . we are proud of him. the next guest with whom we will continue the discussion of this important topic is oleksiy gran, the scientific director of the democratic initiatives of psiv foundation. i congratulate you and the professor of the kyiv-mohyla academy, the professor

of political science at the mohyla academy . the world is being compared well, actually , now let's compare, i'll ask you a question to which you know, somewhere with success, somewhere with success , people who want to continue to look for answers to know more, and having certain fragments at their disposal, they want to make a complete picture, but this complete picture does not always consist of some elements or some knowledge that people lack. do you think that the war in ukraine, which is ongoing today, is the cauldron in which this new world order is being brewed or we should not think so globally and let's just say that this is a local war in which the fate of the state of ukraine and its