[000:00:00;00] the first army to use a small plan, and there are already details - it is more visible to the general staff well, just look, if not, if and when the ukrainian army will go to the coast of the sea of ​​azov, well, that is, it will cut off these newly purchased territories, then everything in principle remains crimea he is becoming he now, in principle, if you look at it seriously , it is already an island and it can become an island de facto at any moment. you just need to understand that it is very inconvenient. crimea is inconvenient for occupation. it seems that it is so convenient , and so do the russians it seemed a lot by the way times in history it seemed to them that crimea is very convenient for occupation, but it is much more convenient for liberation and return, and any military expert there, if he is not russian, of course there, well, he will say that it is a very, very vulnerable territory

. that is, there are simply eternal ways reports and there, and you, christ, actually listed all of this city on kerch - this is a ferry crossing that they are afraid to use because of completely understandable things, so you can simply drown there because of ukrainian drones and they complain. by the way, ukraine is attacking military ships in the black sea, this will also be systematic and it will increase, it will not decrease. that is, now this is just an example of how, and by the way, attacks on moscow are also being sown by others - this is the absolute beginning. i think that well, if there is the head on the shoulders is the people or the anti people, even they understand that this is the beginning, this is ukraine being targeted, it is making it clear that it can, both for itself and as a partner with the western occupiers, and then there will be systematic work and i just know what kind of work is being carried out

regarding the production of drones completely different modifications and people are working on it here in ukraine. these drones are of a completely different level, they are protected, they have, well, they have such a huge protection against russian rugby, and the fact that time and time again ukrainian drones nail the defense of even moscow, i can imagine what rings there are yes, there is protection there. well, putin is there, their entire russian elite is there, that is, they are for themselves. they definitely worry about themselves and worry about themselves, but they can’t do anything, and in crimea. all the more so, there, in fact, the whole crooked, almost the entire crimea. already in the firing zone of the ukrainian forces, even before they send or not send them there , well, i hope that they will send more missiles, where there is more radius of action. well, i think that ukrainian means are also on the way, i mean, we even know about it, that

absolutely the whole of crimea is this is actually now for the russian federation, it can become acute at any moment, this must be understood. i think that we have a lot of supporters in our program , that is, viewers in crimea. they they can already hear it there and you can see with your own eyes what is happening that russia can do absolutely nothing about it and this myth about crimea being untouchable. well, i’m not even mentioning it anymore. that is, it’s all destroyed and there is this native shit. some of them were allegedly returned by putin to crimea. she can't handle anything, she can't defend herself, she can't defend her own capital, what is crimea like , and i just think that we will observe the events in the future. i mean

, that is, the encirclement of the crimea really turned into and then the events are already sprayed a lot, now there is just such a period when there is space for which i don’t know if there are any analysts or what will happen and what will happen when the front is uh the front will be destroyed the first line of defense there and the second will be a completely different situation and then the events will develop very, very quickly, you just had to be ready for this, well, all the people who have a head there and you can prepare for this just by looking a little more than 100 years ago in 1918-19 and actually remember about of colonel ovochan and his crimean operation, it was fast, it was brilliant, it was effective, it was supported by the crimean tatar population, which also carried out its struggle on the territory of the crimean peninsula , it was not a very popular topic.

why? well, why talk about the fact that the ukrainians were actually expelled by the unr army from the bolsheviks from the territory of crimea, and if it wasn't actually hitler's troops, i think that this story could come back in a completely different way. well, well but this is such a lyrical retreat and a tree, we will now take a short break, after which we will add a guest , because it is definitely worth having a separate conversation about the mood on the temporarily occupied peninsula, it helps not only with heaviness in the stomach, but also with bloating , discomfort and a feeling of fullness of the stomach , there are discounts on enzibar 20 % in pharmacies plantain pain can become an obstacle on the stairs not with my knees from knee pain try dolegit cream dolegit cream relieves pain, reduces swelling and improves joint mobility, you can also walk

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ukraine and create the future are already the main and interesting thing in the program verdict serhii rudenko from monday to friday at 20:00, repeat at 12:10 this is together bereber joint project of the espresso tv channel and the atp tv channel my name is khrystyna yatskiv my co-host in this program ayder muzhdabaev thank you for the first part of our conversation today it's time to join her and larisa voloshyna our colleague journalist of the crimean psychologist ms. larisa congratulations glory to ukraine

congratulations glory to heroes we have gathered here to reflect on the latest events in the space , now there are extremely many information devices related to crimea, these are mainly topics of such a military and security nature it looks very natural, the intensification of the elimination of enemy forces in the crimea and, of course, the targeting of their logistics about what is happening around the kerch bridge and how the village of the harrow is working on the chongar , of course we see it, we understand this logic. m reacts inside the peninsula itself among let's divide the population, relatively speaking , the current composition of the population of crimea into three groups: invaders, colonizers, collaborators, and

simply the local population that tries to survive in the occupation and who, according to my conviction, the majority is still in crimea now larisa, is it possible to somehow make a cut at all , is the attitude of those who now live in crimea changing or changing towards all these events, i agree with you in this division of yours, collaborators buyers and people about ukrainians, and here you have to understand that these groups have changed a lot since the 14th year, if during the occupation of crimea, that hybrid invasion when we were there no, we saw a rather large group about ukrainian citizens, this is mostly there were crimean tatars and ukrainian activists, people were ready, they went to rallies, they tried to stop the russian invasions, they supported the ukrainian military units, and without fearing that

there would be punishment for this, and this part was uh vahoma , but not the majority, the majority of crimean residents sat at home and they thought in this way, they said, well, what is the difference, we lived under one flag, we will live under another, russia is a rich country and ukraine will soon be free of measles , that is, they actually used such mercantile notions. occupation, this group is like that, what is the difference, because it also became pro-ukraine, if not pro-ukrainian, then at least quite favorable to ukraine, these people now even those who went to the referendum tell their children to leave, leave for ukraine, go to europe you are ukrainian you have a ukrainian passport, that is, these people who denied ukraine in the 14th year now. they are so tired of

the occupiers and their orders that they support ukraine. because ukraine for them is an opportunity to be a subject in crimea, because for all these years you have not felt themselves as less valuable they felt like second-class people. as for the collaborators, this is also quite an interesting group, because some of those who went to serve the occupation authorities have already fled. do we have to leave, will there be punishment, or can they say that the children had to be fed, and there are unconditional colonists, occupiers. this is quite the most interesting of the groups, because these people are not idiots, they understood perfectly well.

that there was no pain to the people of crimea whom putin told them, they knew from the first minutes that russia was taking over crimea, the territory was occupied they were warned and not only ukrainians they were warned by ukrainians and russian oppositionists and valeria novodvorska herself, who said that crimea was occupied and that it would return, and none that a decent, intelligent person will not go to crimea, but you stuck around, bought property for yourself, decided to live there in an old house, and now it turns out that crimea is really being occupied and they are shocked, i want to remind you of an interesting video walks the net about the ukrainian missile hitting the gvardiyskyi military base, where there is clearly a russian because he has such an accent , he says yes yes and he says she flew there, that is, because he is in shock, in fact , because they thought that, first of all, ukraine would never

be able to to win back for the second time even those explosions and the same kerch bridge, they considered it a coincidence well, some truck over there, well, it broke down, well, it kills, well, an isolated incident . and now they see ukrainian rockets and they see them every day, but for the past few weeks , there have been explosions in crimea every day, they understand that there is no russia, there is no city in russia, there is nothing russia cannot contain , again, their disappointment and such and such demoralization are contributed to by these idiotic speeches of their bear, who every week writes another post on the topic of red lines and nuclear apocalypse due to strikes on crimea , but people they see that the strikes happen and nothing happens, that's why in this case this is the most interesting group, because on the one hand they are bound by certain contracts in the russian

army by certain obligations. some of them sold what they had there in their such or where is he there in yuryukivsk, where did he have it, this is his barn, he bought something for himself in the crimea, and now you don’t understand that and how can they leave, they can’t sell it, who can remain a merchant, they can’t leave. like the ukrainian immigrants of their time, taking from a cat, a suitcase, a cat, children, that is, for them it is now a personal tragedy , so i suggest watching the desperation of these people. i think we will see many videos of how i do not want to leave zalupka. so completely impoverished and begging, please well, first of all, i completely agree with

what larisa has been saying for a long time. by the way, ms. larisa has not seen you at night. i want you to know what to ask about. things, i think you know about uh, about which collaborators are being talked about. how do the collaborators actually behave ? well, about the russians, of course, we don’t even count them there. and those who went to cooperate with the russian authorities. and what is with them now ? used to be there they were in some positions, and what is with them now, according to my own data, yes, they are tired , they buy something there in russia, and those who can't , they drink, er, it is not known what you are waiting for, do you have any data of your own about what is going on with our

i think some of them are traitors. some of them have escaped. belek won't let them go. they are tied there like slaves . nevertheless, we are already hearing about the fact that such gram collaborators have some panamanian passports, some other passports. i think they are already there. -e in such a personal order they are looking for they have the opportunity to escape, that is, as soon as i am certain of this, as soon as they realize that russia is no longer capable of obtaining crimea and is unable to direct farbyten to work, they will flee. i am certain that in crimea there will be such an outcome of all these police courts er and er occupation administrations that we will be surprised - one more moment to be surprised that i hear, for example, at the household level, many teachers tell that they when they are called to the directorate and told

that er, here we have russia for now that's why i you i'm asking you, i'm not ordering anymore, but i'm asking you to comply, at least for the premises of the russian educational program. this is very interesting because we know that the directors fall under the collaboration under the law under the collaboration and they say so far, that is, i am what i see at the everyday level, all the collaborators who they also serve, they understand that there will be punishment , they understand that ukraine will come, and here we have a great danger, because there are a number of people respected by the international community who go around and tell tales about the fact that ukraine is a democratic state, we have

adhere to some international norms, but i am very afraid that we will be forced to some kind of tolerance and total forgiveness of those people who should be in prison. we get this er-er bacillus of treason so er-er in its er-er renewed and cleansed already after the war so bloody cleansed but the ukrainian body is new if infected and this is a big problem especially when you understand that er on the one hand, everyone who carried out management like this of the educational process, school directors, for example, this is one story, but it does not mean that the russian world did not settle in the heads of ordinary teachers, for example, how to deal with these people, and so on, and so on, and larisa is very sensitive.

number yes, probably all the medical institutions of crimea in one way or another in different percentages, but they are involved in serving the occupier of the occupiers, can doctors make a choice. that is, i don’t want to treat a russian soldier or i can’t do it for ethical reasons. it seems that absolutely excluded story and here we see a lot of layering of this problem for doctors it is impossible because they have a sworn dictator they have to treat everyone by the way our military who take prisoners of the russian occupiers and if they are wounded even our military provides medical aid our military our doctors their they are treating because it is our obligation, there is another problem here, let's see, i just want to emphasize your attention, pay attention to how these eyes have become more active, you know from

the valuer of international law and dialogue russian oppositionists are telling us more and more often, listen, well, what about crimea? well, what about crimea? well, there are many russians there . there are a lot of people who do not accept ukraine . something must be done about it. they talk about it on their broadcasts. they impose it on things, the opinion about the negotiations on crimea, if putin’s and posypak’s are talking about what they are already openly talking about, give us crimea everything and we don’t need anything more and we don’t want anything more we will even throw putin there with the top something with him let's do about it was recently, just this week, an interview of this green was released. well, the retired american politician , who is putin, ferstein, was very well-known to the associates of kessanger, and he flew to moscow in the past. last month, he spoke there

, he did not name it is known that he had talks with lavrov, he met. and here he is telling the times with such directness, with such joy , they say that this is such a rush of diplomacy that he is an opponent of this moscow ice - this is what they say, listen, putin has gone mad. of course we want to end all this, we need to leave the crimea to us, leave the crimea to us, but if they leave the crimea to us, then we are with the top putin right away, right away, and he is talking about it, listen, what a beauty, let's negotiate, we see russian appendices who speak about any agreements with ukraine, crimea, of course, ukrainian, it is not directly discussed, but let's agree on it, about the rights of russians in crimea , we hear it, we see that these negotiations are now being conducted because what ukraine should do, ukraine should

express its position in this regard about the fact that we will allow everyone who wants to leave to leave. this is the right to leave. yes, we will allow everyone to leave the territory of the russian federation . anyone who wants to leave for a week or a month will fall under the law and there will be no amnesty. let's find one for myself. i imagine i imagine how the russian federation won't let all these people into its territory, i imagine how they won't be there, because they don't need them, in principle they can then live on the kerch bridge, just like that , because what will be the international law, we can create camps, friends. well, of course not horse but nevertheless, take away those people for refugees, those people will be received until russia accepts them, there are such options, there are camps for refugees all over the world, that is, we can

organize it, but these people do not have rights on the territory of ukraine, and they have declared their intention get out, and i think that this rule should be not only for russian citizens , but also for those ukrainians who took russian passports and recognize their russian citizenship. all the best, get out of here so that you are not seen. okay, larisa, you understand. yes, christ is very good, people are very tolerant, too tolerant, as far as i'm concerned. why should we agitate someone there, tell them you have time to leave if they know it themselves, they will leave themselves if they don't go, i apologize and why is a person who... committed crimes against the state, ukraine should be uh, receive an indulgence. no, we don't have a full east . i apologize to the destroyed uh territories , destroyed villages, destroyed cities

. and who will rebuild it? at the resort, in fact, they betrayed their own country or were the occupiers. i think that it is too wrong, it is not justice, it is justice, it is how it will be, and it will be if they find themselves at a time when our army enters the crimea, on the territory of the crimea, it is just that they have to suffer the punishment. receive prison terms for the terms when they will work for ukraine it's all not free, that is, if you know now that they are elected and not what they are, i understand your desire that they simply not be there, just how , how quickly, so that they are not there yes but it's you in other people will give them hope that it is possible to do anything with ukraine , anything, anything, nothing will be betrayed to them. i personally for the fact that everyone knew what

was waiting for him and then no insults, even if they will say there that we were forced to listen to russian propaganda, and doctors are one thing. i apologize to the teacher, who was told how big russia is, how big russia is, putin. well, i'm sorry. that 's all, everyone heard it, that's why i think that should act in legislation and no others there really, what are the deadlines for evacuation? they didn't give our people any deadlines, they imprisoned them, betrayed them, they actually prepared lists , that is, i am against us, er, i am here. i want to explain , friends. i mean not those who committed a crime, because according to ukrainian legislation and of international law, those who commit a crime, even foreign citizens fall under the jurisdiction of the ukrainian judiciary, we see how we judge even the russian military, well, those who committed a murder and it has been proven, therefore, it does not apply to

those who committed a crime, it applies to everyone you know the zhduns, whom nothing can fix, all these nets, you know what kind of russia this is, our family, and this is exactly theirs. they seem to have not committed a crime, but they are undesirable for us , that's why we say get them out of here. this is why i'm talking about them, because there are a very large number of them and we don't need them at all, let them go to their russia , buy an apartment there somewhere behind the arctic circle and live there , that is, what is this proposed step about, what should be discussed regarding the rights of russians in crimea, not those who have committed a crime, but those who have not did all these uncles who tssed people in a trance that a young person reads, for example, ukrainian , there is a new one yes, that's all these intersections are disgusting, because they are actually the most terrible, they are more terrible than collaborators, a collaborator is

a criminal, you can condemn him, but you have nothing to do with this abomination if she commits a crime, it is as if she does not commit it, but she poisons those around her, the tree thanks her. thank you to larisa. finally, i would like to warn our ukrainian citizens, who are now forced to find themselves under occupation both on the territory of the crimean peninsula and on the territory of the kherson region, be careful with any public conversations on the topic of housing certificates, this is a kind of document supposedly for buying a home in the event that your home was destroyed during hostilities . -e for this certificate housing in the russian federation or in the crimea and simply sell it and leave somewhere outside the borders of this country, he calls, actually, at

the legislative level to somehow regulate this история подписывать имя приложение осуждаский регим подавать приложение на регистрация российского газиниства и только тогда жилищные серифты. that is, this story is not about helping you financially, it is of course a story about revealing your pro-ukrainian position. please be careful, i am very grateful. bera and where you can bey khrystyna yatskiv thank you for this conversation larisa voloshinia and we will meet very soon on the air of the espresso tv channel and on the air of the rtr tv channel, stay with us greetings dear tv viewers, it's time to find out about the most important events at the moment with you