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[000:00:00;00] of the kherson city council, they talked with us about the consequences of the shelling of kherson, about the fact that in fact people are shooting at crowded places, and now they shoot very often, er, every day, in fact , public transport, hospitals, places of crowding, and cathedrals. we also remember that a few seconds are all it takes for the shells to reach and from on the left bank, where the occupiers are now based on the right bank, so it is not always possible to hide, unfortunately, there is time to go to the shelter
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in fact, under the control of ukraine, when you were under the control of russia, this did not happen. and in fact, in this way, they are also trying to put pressure on, to press, oppress them even more, and morally, now we will talk about sumy region volodymyr bisak , commander of the third company of the voluntary formation of the territorial community and deputy head of the sumy district administration with we are already in touch. glory to ukraine, volodymyr, you are greeted by the north-eastern outpost of the defense of our country, mr. volodymyr, it is nice to hear and before we move on to the actual conversation about sumshchyna about your native places, i read literally an hour ago information from the kursk people's republic that one of their border settlements and elizavetivka is under fire, and actually speaking, even about four flights at the time when i read this information , please confirm, deny, tell me something. what can it be? you know a little more
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. i know it well. this is a populated place before the war . it is located right on the border with ukraine and the russian federation . republics, who knows what they are fighting over there, so provide information about what they are fighting over there, well, it is them. let the young people understand their republics, so to speak, it is possible that there are more than four arrivals, let's hope. maybe, on the contrary, i like fireworks. well, they are already there . as far as the information is concerned, the maximum evacuation from this settlement is already so . i think that the city is 4, therefore there. i understand that there are maximum military racists, therefore, in
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in the comments, i comment well, they comment in their groups, probably because of that there is almost no population there, and they resettled them for what purpose , you say, four months ago , they predicted something a long time ago that there might be some such internal civil nuances in russia, maybe even then you found something so interesting about them there was some kind of cotton. they had such a thing happen in the village itself. therefore , as many stages as possible, they were recommended for culling. some time ago, it was actively replaced due to the fact that various russian forces were trying to enter ukraine illegally
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. quite tightly everything is done so that more than one russian abomination, more than one russian abomination, does not step on our territory, more than one kind of dictation there, those apcs, that’s why everything is fine in this regard. and there are attempts on their part, maybe some there isolated no there north of sumy oblast there have already been requests several times measures have been taken so these are not isolated cases like this it looks like this what are these groups of other people how many people how do they behave what do they say when they are detained by us i think they do not detain them as much as possible last time, when they were in the north, they found and killed civilians and fled back, so the number of their groups, well, it is small, 10 people, 10
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, approximately, approximately so, and we have to, unfortunately , mr. volodymyr, but i still want to ask, do we remember the instruction of the ministry of foreign affairs about the fact that where it is possible to switch to face-to-face education, it primarily concerns higher educational institutions, but it also refers to many schools, what is the situation where your children will study offline, and if so, are the educational institutions ready for this process, that everything was not only with the mind, but and it's safe. well, military administrations will be present at the council today, so what is the maximum goal for it to be all offline, but for those border communities that are being shelled there , it will be decided, let's say, in local self-government bodies, the heads of that what will be the time, what will be the situation, for example, it means the krasnopil community, which was shelled once again yesterday, all
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schools will be online, except for a few that are as far away as possible on the sub-border, so it will be decided as it goes, as the plays go, the heads will say exactly how they will decide this will be the process of teaching our little girls . thank you, mr. volodymyr volodymyra bitsak, commander of the third company of the voluntary formation of the territorial community, deputy head of the sumy district administration, was with us , we will continue to do military affairs. now it's time for the column of military summaries of the day with serhii zgurets p serhii i congratulate you, i congratulate you, the audience, what do we see a-at least the new york times writes about it that the ukrainians have their own certain tactics, which tactics of conducting hostilities , which knowing the best and having tried others after all are returning to our
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native country, what is it about, this interesting publication really appeared today, i think that i am the one responsible for the columns, this publication will be the beginning of our program, and then we will talk with our military experts about what exactly happening on the front line, how to perceive these western assessments of hostilities and what conclusions should be drawn from this in a moment . therefore, i would like to start our column with some of my own assessments against the background of today's publication by the american edition of the new york times, it is about the fact that the ukrainian the army abandoned the methods of conducting hostilities offered by solid states and returned to other tactics, and the ukrainian military command itself focused on exhausting
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the russian troops with artillery and missiles long-range instead of storming mini-fields under fire and is conducting operations now with small units, which, say, american officials really did not understand , who are concerned that ukraine's return to this tactic may lead to the fact that it will waste precious ammunition and that this may play on handshake and put ukraine at a disadvantage in this war of attrition . so what are the american methods that the new york times writes about? this is actually about the mobile war about maneuver when instead of exhausting it fire resistance uses speed to bypass the enemy's position in order to catch him by surprise with new opportunities with new technologies, indeed, the opportunities for such operations have increased .
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not only the result of the maneuver, but also the actual advantages in firepower, let's remember the desert storm war, where the enemy's air defense was destroyed for 40 days in a row, and then for four days a ground operation, of course, ukraine does not have such a luxury, and this concept, of course, cannot be transferred to the reality of the ukrainian-russian war, which is in a certain way unique given the fact that at the current stage it is about a certain dynamic parity in capabilities between the armies of the two countries in terms of forces and means therefore, in any case , it is simply not worth talking about a maneuverable war, at least at the current stage.
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experts who carried out a sufficiently deep analysis at the level of the front. having visited various areas and carried out an analysis of their own publications, we are talking about franz štefangadi - this is actually a senior scientist at the british institute for strategic studies, and the second one is mikel kofman - this is a research worker to the extent of two experts are known enough and they made conclusions that are sufficiently flexible and sometimes critical when we talk about critical conclusions, what do they say about what actually the ability of ukrainian soldiers to quickly master western technologies and western models led to the fact that there was an unfounded optimism that it was possible to reduce the training of combat units against this background. and this was actually a mistake and it was not true because now actually company commanders , battalion commanders, commanders of newly formed brigades are now forced to acquire this combat experience and experience
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of interaction on the battlefield and sometimes at a high price , but even if they were better prepared in any case, we understand that the lack of key capabilities would prevent the rapid advancement of the country's brigades in the blitzkrieg maneuver because there is a lack of means for dominating the air, means for quick exchange of close-range air defense means. lies in the fact that in order to maintain its combat power and destroy the enemy, the main emphasis is really placed on the artillery when the artillery destroys the enemy's defenses and then the infantry is already advancing and this period will take a certain exhausting period and as i think that now the effectiveness of this strategy is primarily
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understood by the enemy if we take into account the historical statements of the russian military commanders and the statements of the former russian leaders of the same 58th army which says that they have there is no way to counteract the ukrainian counter-battery fire and the destructive ukrainian artillery today, and this is just a sign that this strategy at the current stage is fully justified, but as i understand it, the problem now is that probably already ukraine needs to make efforts so that the perception of our company's success is correct among our partners already today, when this exhausting evil and period continues, and even before the strike and maneuver of our fresh brigades becomes a sign of such a new stage of our counteroffensive actions. this is how i would rate this publication, which appeared in the new york times edition today. and now to another topic, rather to the same topic but from a different point of view, and
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now we are joined by mykhailo samus, the head of the ancient organization of political and also the deputy director of the research center army of conversion and disarmament mr. mykhailo i congratulate you i am glad to see and hear i congratulate you mr. serhiy i am glad to see you i would now like to ask you a question how do you assess the situation on the front line, who has the initiative and what is happening at the front, how does it correlate with publications in the western media mass information because on the one hand they express the position of their own elites and on the other hand they influence the formation of the position of both the elites and their own voters, so the question arises of the front of adequate perception and the place of mass media information in this process well, actually, i would like to say right away about this publication, the last one, which talks about a change in the tactics of the ukrainian army, and i have the impression
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that the journalist did not understand what was happening because there are several provisions that are not can be correlated with each other, on the one hand, it says that the ukrainian troops were trained to fight in a decentralized manner, because this is a sign of western doctrine, and on the other hand, now the ukrainian side, the ukrainian army, will focus on exhaustion. i cannot to understand how it compares to warm and soft, that is, decentralization and , in principle, the absence of those combat capabilities that you talked about, really, about dominance in the air, and the presence, after all, of more high-precision long-range means that could knock out, including air defense means or against you, after all, it is more in-depth and i mean, for example, glsdb ground watch small demeter box for 160 km, which we are already
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talking about, well, it has probably been a year, they will not appear in our battle formations a- and i i think that, in principle, the ukrainian army continues to operate in the same doctrinal paradigm as it was operating, that is, first whispers about racing, then designer operation , that is, forming operations that shape the conditions on the battlefield, including, of course, with the help of artillery with the help of high-precision means , since we do not have advanced aviation that can dominate the air, the emphasis is , of course, on high-precision artillery, missile troops. what is the enemy leaving because you are exhausted, that is, in principle, if we compare the current operation with the operation to liberate the right bank of the kherson region , for some reason now they say that it was some kind of
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instantaneous blitzkrieg operation. i want to remind you that it started at least in june and july and it actually ended in november, when kherson was liberated. that is, it was not an instant operation, and even then it was necessary to tire out the enemy and destroy infrastructure facilities such as bridges , for example, we remember how long the ukrainian the army processed let's say the antonov bridge, so in principle it is true, at first, the illusion was created that there would be some kind of immediate operation, although when everyone looked at the map and saw these defense lines that were built for example, the publication of a well-known article by zulzhny, an interview by zulzhny, in which he named the number of tanks, artillery systems, armored vehicles, and so on that
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are needed for victory, that is, all this actually created an illusion, then they started some disappointments, in fact, in such a situation and in the conditions in which we are now and i believe that this is the optimal development of events , optimal, that is, there is progress, there is exhaustion, there is information that the russians are really already experiencing, uh, shell hunger is already real , because ukraine e ukrainian troops are constantly destroying warehouses with ammunition both in tactical depth and in operational depth . e projectile hunger would be much greater for the russians and all this would move faster, that is, there is a dependence on the combat capabilities of the so-called cape-bilitis, because the western doctrine
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, in addition to the fact that it is considered to be focused on decentralization, nevertheless, it focuses on kpleitis on combat capabilities even not on the number or on some other structural features, namely on the combat capabilities of the troops p. mykhailo , indeed, i absolutely agree with the conclusion that this is the most optimal way of launching hostilities at the current stage determining the formation of a field battle, then when we actually understand where there will be areas where the enemy will not be weaker , then we will carry out the stage that everyone publicly expects, precisely the maneuvering components that can significantly destroy the russian defense lines, in fact , i hope it will happen, but here are our military actions, one way or another. well, there are such conclusions or e-e statements that they are one way or another integrated into electoral processes, in particular the electoral process of the united states, everyone believes that against the background of this e-e, the united states
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will in any case ensure there an effective support and that actually when it becomes difficult it will appear there and there are such and such and such or other means of military aid, but when i looked at your conclusions, you actually perceive the interaction of the election processes in the united states and the course of hostilities in ukraine somewhat differently you think in a completely different way that on the contrary, the united states takes such deterrent approaches in order not to somehow create problems for the biden election company, please explain what your logic is based on. what is it based on? my logic is based on the fact that well, the technologies of the political technologies of the campaign headquarters of any a-a they are oriented on, of course, on successful stories on everything sex story especially when it comes to the administration of baityn and especially when it comes to the military aspects of the development of the situation one immediately remembers
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oh-oh afghanistan and that terrible picture when er, the afghans there are trying to grab the wheels of the plane that is taking off, and all this was very, very , er, it looked panicky and, let’s say, not beautiful from the point of view of the administration, that is, it is obvious that the political opponents in the elections could appeal to such failures of the biden administration, which of course would like to stay for a second term, therefore, in my opinion , the main task of the biden administration, that is, political technologists, during the election campaign, is to prevent any negative context when it comes to e support of ukraine if you imagine, for example, that the united states supplied us with f16s, they supplied us with atakamsk and suddenly they shoot down several f16s, e.e. the russians, e.e. atakams
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are not so effective and they are shot down by russian air defense during e.e. attempts for example, strikes on crimea, then this can be a very, very good trump card for the same trump or other opponents of biden, who will say that, look, you just invested a lot of money in ukraine, and ukraine cannot succeed, and therefore you have to negotiate with russia that's why we need to stop this war and so on and what, in principle, is often played by certain european politicians in the united states, they often repeat this thesis that the biden administration has interfered too much in the ukrainian-ukrainian-russian conflict and that is why it is necessary to get out of there and deal with internal problems and not get into another conditional afghanistan, and that is why i think that the biden administration will
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look at the development of, for example, the ukrainian offensive in the summer-autumn period, if it is successful, then it is possible that it will be accelerated the process of transfer f16 well, for example, already in the winter, the first 16 will be received, the first from the quadrille, then the second, and sometime in the spring, when more active combat operations begin , ukraine will already be able to demonstrate, for example, when the donbass or crimea are liberated, already combat the possibilities of involving the f-16, if not, if there is really such a compelling company that does not achieve such contrasting successes, i think that the united states will try to avoid the transfer of the f- 16 to them next year or will transfer them in such portions that will not allow them effectively apply to the elections, which i will remind you will take place in november of next year, before the elections somehow in some
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companies, and maybe there will be a direct demand or a direct e-e direct direct request as they often as it is our friends the americans e-e often limit both the use and the weapon system that e here, please do not apply it here, but with certain restrictions , that is, it can be put, for example, such a requirement not to use it in 16, until the elections, in direct battles or close to the front line, e-e, directly during the operation that is, i have the impression that after all , the americans would like to avoid any responsibility for any failures in the conduct of ukrainian operations, but here we have another election company - this is an election company the campaign in russia actually seems like the presidential elections should be held in march, it seems like in march, in march, and there already in september, the election process starts there
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- governors are elected and so on. and then the question arises. the russian authorities want to ensure that in these elections the level of putin's support there is somewhere around 80%, i.e. it is higher than even in the previous elections , the question arises what will be the strategy of the russian authorities in the context of the integration of the war in the election process. what are your estimates and forecasts, and here is what is noted in practice, we see that russia is preparing for the great mobilization, the adoption and formation of such a legal framework is underway, which allows, in fact , these electronic summonses to limit the rights of any citizen of the russian federation up to the termination the validity of his foreign passport, the blocking of his bank accounts , i.e. if a person received an e-mail summons and did not appear at the collection point at a certain time, it means that he
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will be limited in his rights and, in fact, he will not be able to er, continue to exist in this state under the name of the russian federation, that is, obviously, somewhere in september, er, october , a great wave of mobilization is planned, which will be, well, different numbers say that the goal is somewhere around 500,000 , er, the average estimate is 500,000 military personnel to recruit and train apparently somewhere in the middle of winter maybe at the end of winter in order to carry out further and try to carry out the next strategic operation, that is, now they cannot organize any strategic operation they have limited actions in various directions in basically, it is to slow down ukrainian operations or to try their own counterattacks or counteroffensives , such were carried out, for example, in the luhansk region recently, to try to break through the front and
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turn everything upside down, to seize the initiative, they did not succeed, and now the situation is such that they are burning their reserves in order to slow down the ukrainian attack as much as possible, and they cannot plan their offensive actions because they actually do not have a reserve, again they need a reserve in order to form a strike-strike-grouping on the territory of belarus , a certain force of wagnerites is being formed there , so far 5,000 well, but it can be up to 10,000. and really, how is it all? and the pre-election struggle. it seems to me that the only way the russians and their propagandists always follow is to raise the level of this a-a such a-a
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turbo-patriotism as much as possible . protect russia and so on i.e. perhaps some provocations, some terrorist attacks will be carried out, as the putin regime is constantly doing in order to shift the information agenda , to show that only with putin, of course , victory is possible, and now everyone must get up and go, uh, to carry out orders in accordance with such electronic summonses. well i think that this is possible in principle. well, in any case, you move on to the fact that the mobilization will be that now the task of the enemy is to restrain our offensive, ensure the accumulation of forces and then try to carry out contract offensive actions already in the next year based on the increased number of the russian army, yes, that is, in principle, this concept is a war of attrition . i think that the kremlin has made a decision to move
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to such and such a stage of the war, and this is not only about preparation for mobilization, but and so on. well, these are quite negative signals for us regarding state investments in the development of technologies and the armament of military equipment in which ukraine was the leader. that is, these are primarily drones of various types and kamikaze drones, fpv drones, first person wildrones and reconnaissance drones and so on, this is the construction of the shahed factory in kazan. in other words, this indicates that russia is now trying to transfer its economy as much as possible in market conditions and in the conditions of the sanctions regime to military flights, as they say and at the same time try to act asymmetrically, that is, not build tanks. although they are also trying
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to restore and modernize something there, but this is very worrying for us , they are not investing in tanks right now, and even they have huge problems with artillery, in fact, not only with ammunition but also the artillery systems themselves, and they are investing in drones, and this is actually a wake-up call for us, a signal that ukraine needs to switch to public investments, not just to collect united 24 or er and charity funds and so on initiatives , we know maritime drones and beavers and so on, all this is heard and all this is done . but it seems to me that government investments are needed so that there are not dozens of these beavers in one wave. and for example, 100 beavers in one blow, as the russians do with martyrs. what did they do? by the shekheds, then it would be quite effective and we would preserve that is a symmetrical approach when , of course, having less human resources, less
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, obviously, less weapons and military equipment, we could nevertheless achieve parity and prevent the russians from intercepting the initiative of the strategic initiative that if they take over this initiative in the drone field, it will be really difficult for us , this is an absolutely correct conclusion, and mr. mykhailo, i would like you to comment to our viewers that is happening in belarus with the wagnerites in poland in view of the hope of the wagnerites, what to expect in this area or is this a new hybrid tactic of russia to spread conflicts further than only ukraine yes, this is one of the most logical scenarios for the use of the wagnerites, although there are several scenarios, including, of course, the formation threats to ukraine is the use in the so-called projects in africa, including the destabilization and chaos of the african continent, this is a separate topic and, of course, hybrid attacks in the area of
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