[000:00:00;00] be with us, and now i will give the floor to serhiy rudenko for the verdict good evening we are from ukraine, glory to ukraine, this is a verdict program , my name is serhiy rudenko greetings to everyone and i wish everyone good health special operation of ukraine sbu drone penetrated the landing ship of the occupiers

in novorossiysk, let's see how it was the sound must be where do you understand that it is burning, even i got into it with my own people because there is no shaft of this boat, it is a boat or a lighthouse, i can’t know what it is, i think so you can look at it forever russia is preparing a terrorist attack through the wagnerites in belarusians to to fully drag it into the war, the sbu reports, according to our special service, the wagnerites want

to dress up as soldiers of the armed forces of ukraine and create a terrorist attack, commit a terrorist attack on one of the oil refineries in belarus , meanwhile, moscow has spent a record 600 billion rubles on the army in just six months , let's talk about this and more to speak with three of our guests for the next hour, we will have general romanenko, a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war, wild and political expert tsibulko, but before starting our conversation with general romanenko we invite you, friends on youtube, to take part in our survey. today we ask you about the following. have you encountered bribery in military commissariats or territorial recruitment centers, what is it called now, yes, no , your option, please write in the comments below this video. ihor romanenko, retired lieutenant general, deputy chief of the general staff of the armed

forces of ukraine in 2006-2010, is in touch with us. generals, i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our air. i also congratulate you, let's start special operations in the novorossiysk drone of the security service of ukraine penetrated the landing ship of the occupiers this night or early morning rather the security service of ukraine conducted a special operation in novorossiysk bay and the surface drone damaged the large amphibious ship olena gorskyi gornyak and what is being said in the special service is that this drone was filled with explosives of 450 kg of tnt and this drone can attack an enemy ship that is located far outside the borders and or far from the ukrainian coast, well, at least

specialists say that the distance for such strikes, for such a drone, somewhere up to a thousand kilometers, so how do you think this strike on uh, on the military, in the base of the novorossian-based ships of the black sea fleet of the russian federation, how will it affect the situation in the black sea basin, and what can the russians uh, in response er give ukraine, the russians do, etc. make and carry out strikes on our civilian objects er, for the last time we see er destruction , despite the actions of anti-flood defense means, this is odesa, there are portraits around it, and it is a swimming pool or namorsky, do not answer this and

it is not necessary to respond and act. our naval forces use all the means that are in the security service of ukraine. they definitely have to, and we see such freaks of use. this is the next step from the previous ones, because we are recalling the historical events that took place last year , when an unmanned marine drone together with aerial unmanned aerial vehicles struck the military base in sevastopol and, moreover , several warships of the russian federation were successfully damaged, and this kind of action is spreading further along the waters of the black sea there was an attack on the reconnaissance ship of the sea. well, other experts now count up to 15 actions of this kind. this is definitely new

. the distance in mm with which such actions are carried out is that the fighting part of this apparatus is 450 kg. probably the same as the viskandirs, but we still don’t have air assets yet, because work is underway on our peregrine falcon, and i hope that this work will be completed quickly. we’ll see and hear. russians will feel the impact of everything immediately tactical missile complex a now we are watching how our maritime drones operate

, moreover, the drones were shown at the maritime exhibition in turkey. damage to this amphibious ship. and what does this mean? it means a reduction in the potential logistical support of enemy military units that are located in the crimea and that operate in the south of our states in in the conditions when there are very intense battles on the part of the defense forces of ukraine of an offensive nature, but in addition, there is still a lot of trouble if there is such an oil hap who said spin oil, thanks to the actions of this, they sold there provided, that is, in my opinion, another economic blow that is inflicted

the russian federation has suffered, and i'm coming back to this once again, not just a response to some actions . continuous strikes, and we see that it is not only there at tactical depth from the contact line, operationally on the ground and also by sea. that is, it is emphasized that ukraine is and will be a maritime state. you mentioned , mr. general, about the strike on the oil lighthouse, it also happened just in waters of novorossiysk and this is a remote system, this oil beacon that allows you to receive oil in the sea, and it is located several kilometers from the coast . thus, the russian federation, which

carries out 50% of its export and import by black by sea and precisely from the port of novorossiysk will now have problems because now they will clearly know that they can be hit by a naval drone with any naval drone launched from the territory or from the coastal zone of ukraine and this is not a problem for us that same night the southern command commented night explosions in feodosia because there were explosions at a large oil storage facility of the russians with fuel reserves for the black sea fleet nataliya humenyuk spokeswoman for the southern command said that cotton will bloom and this is inevitable considering the game of the military group which one is in crimea now, we know that it is big enough and crimea has always been a big military base in

soviet times and after russia annexed the peninsula eh, in your eyes , the blows that are now eh being inflicted by the ukrainian armed forces on the territory of the peninsula, on the territories of these military depots, to what extent can we significantly reduce the logistical capabilities of the russian federation? do they have enough weapons and equipment there to renew themselves, considering on the fact that russia has always considered the peninsula not as a place for rest, but as a place for strategic dominance in the black sea basin, russia has positioned crimea for itself, their propaganda as a fortress and how do we get to it, the aircraft carrier still approaches this

, according to various estimates, more than 200 e-e banks were located there of military units is carried out through the crimean peninsula of logistical support of the units operating in the south of our country from the fact that it will be destroyed there, let's say near some kind of neurussia or directly under feodosia, this means that it will be completely logistical support has been stopped, but it clearly means that the capabilities of the potential will be significantly reduced, and we need this very much. this is an effective action. we already had experience last year when we conducted the kherson opera during operations against a fairly powerful enemy group on the right bank, which we carried out such and such actions in

relation to the fact that they captured, as we remember, the first line of defense of a fairly powerful enemy and then inflicted blows according to their logistic capabilities in the control system of the point management of communication nodes well and other things, that is, taking into account the fact that offensive actions are taking place in the south , among the burials of the fact that if parts of the reserve of the 10th corps of our reserve were already in the south, the development of these events and the need on the one hand, to reduce their logistical potential , which we are observing now, and also to carry out strikes, for this, the defense forces of ukraine need the means of military facilities in the depth of the operational

depth of the defense system, the gates, mr. general , were released in july to clear ukraine 415 missiles and drones, among them 265 shahed missiles, 54 calibers, 41 x-101 and 555 missiles, 20 onyx ei 4 daggers, 70% of which were also launched by the russian invaders, our anti-aircraft defense shot down, despite everything , russia’s potential remains great in the missile field, with missiles and drones. they have already started building there are completing the drone production plant, there is already information that the iranians will build a plant for the belarusians somewhere in the gomel region, obviously these drones will also fly over our heads, is ukraine ready for such a long marathon, according to you, because russia is very

throws a lot of money into the war and all the military industrial complex, but if we take , for example, the same period from february 24, 2022 until now, do we develop and do we give opportunities to our military-industrial complex to work and do such well, at least commensurate in some way part of the opportunity to strike russian territory because we know that our western partners do not want their weapons to fly into the territory of the russian federation . we have western weapons, but only where, if they determine um, while this is still an occupied

part of uh, ukraine, it's good that there are at least such possibilities, and separate approaches. as we know from the facilities in crimea, all uh sides are therefore - the first piece of information i wanted to say was that 70% of the air force was shot down. this is a very high result. this is what i wanted. i am from the anti-aircraft defense - this is the global criteria for actions, and we are already ready for this when, but this is not enough to cover all the objects and that is why we see e what are the damaged objects of our economy around odesa, such as the port by relay, that is, damage to objects, you reduce the potential of our economic enemy, set as a task relative to the production by the russians, they really increased the production, it transferred the enterprises

of the industrial complex to a 24-hour mode of operation, including saturdays, and thanks to this , as well as the smuggling of spare parts of parts, you are already using your experience and the old man, the old man, and from north korea, they have increased, hmm, let’s say the modern production of missiles, there were 10-15 in the last month, as it were the growth rate is up to 40-50, well, according to different types, but everything is growing, it definitely does not cover those expenses, and does not restore what was in them, but you see, we saw something with you, you article, so far to carry out this kind of blows in the therefore, the ways of combating this are not only from the place of our anti-flood defense

, which we had, the soviet union suffered losses at the beginning of the war, restoration and reinforcement by means of our allies, but also against missile defense batteries, which are small in number, but they have already shown themselves and patriot e complexes we have hopes also franko's kiwi himself will show himself effectively from the italian anti-missile complex eh, so eh, that means on the one hand, we see that the enemy has the potential to produce them , we have to fight with it, and in addition, that is, to beat the only means of air attack that are in the air and we need the means to destroy them before they are launched, that is, the iskanders launched installations , ships, boats, rockets in the sea , underwater, close to naval bases, by aviation

, lately you see strategic aviation, if according to intelligence data, they are coming back again because were near murmansk, long distances in general are not effective, they can be used now closer, they returned again , and we need delicabins, we see sea drones, unmanned or without a crew, there is an action, you don’t take it, so it is necessary to increase efforts to unmanned in the air, and also to develop it on land, this is also in general, the development of more stable devices is a world pension, and we were convinced of this by the experience of 17 months of a large-scale war at home, and it is necessary .

on the principle of unmanned aerial vehicles. i emphasize this not only on aerial vehicles, but on a wide range of aircraft, er, because, er, we had priorities in this area regarding unmanned aerial vehicles just last year, but the russians have increased such opportunities and we must not lose both in terms of quantity and quality of this the principled position, in addition, means to develop means , the allies partially give us a small number of means of combating the enemy's unmanned aerial vehicles that operate both from the ground and in the air , we already have our own developments and the question of how much the loop of m-m will be launched in the e-e production, all this is brought , e hm, well, let's say it is ready for combat and will be produced, so the possibilities of such a plan are very important for children to the funds that have now been released that are being cleaned, many

officials who were on the development that is taking place then the whole exam is there , let’s say the legislative work, which had to be followed for years, now all this is summarized literally in a month, although this also probably needs to be reduced and the exams are held directly at the front, that is , we definitely see that there is a need for such approaches to implementation and we see that it is necessary, first of all, it is clear from all the stories that it is necessary that the production should be ukrainian and we ourselves would make decisions .

only defensive tres- defensively, it is necessary to strike at their military facilities and on the territory of russia and wherever the enemy is located, where are his means that carry out aggression against our country, please thank you, mr. generals, this was igor romanenko retired lieutenant general, deputy chief of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine in 2006-2010, friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us on youtube , please like this video in order to it was trending on youtube take part in our vote today we ask you about the following have you encountered bribery in military commissariats or, more simply , in territorial assembly centers yes no your option your option write in in the comments below this video, we are in touch with political expert volodymyr tsibulko, mr. volodymyr. i welcome you and

i am glad to see you on our broadcast. congratulations . let's start with the news that came today from the security service of ukraine. about the fact that the russian federation is preparing for provocation flag on the territory of belarus and in order to involve belarusians directly in hostilities against ukraine, we are talking about what, as our intelligence officers claim , they are planning to do to us in the form of a terrorist attack at the muzyr super-refining plant, and this drg has arrived to belarus, together with the wagnerites, well, actually, with the wagnerites, they are committing this terrorist attack

, is it according to you? what else does putin want from the belarusians and will the belarusian army affect the course of the russian-ukrainian war if they join the war, first of all , putin would like lukashenko to share the direct responsibility for the aggression, because lukashenko still avoids uh well, let's say yes belarus is partially under sanctions, for example some uh belarusian national teams are allowed or even club teams are allowed to play in european cups and the like. but uh putin just wants the full absorption of belarus and belarus can absorb only in the event that belarus is co-responsible for 100 % for war crimes, along with russia itself

, that's why considering how much oil refining is key for lukashenka , lukashenko has two oil refineries and a belarusian t2 company that they really feed him, well, they allow him to receive this entire apparatus, everything else is unprofitable, you can imagine when ukrainian politicians are slapping the devil here, but how fair is belarus and the lukashenko regime, all of them , i want to provide that 70% of the economy in belarus is controlled by the lukashenka regime, all state enterprises are unprofitable except for three two oil refineries and er belarus , but for lukashenka these are such important plants, he is studying them. by the way

, ukrainian intelligence has warned several times so not directly that, god forbid, there will be strikes on the territory of ukraine from the territory of belarus, er, the mozol plant will fly, so er, i think that er, lukashenka was simply confused by putin in such a er network of dependencies that if he did not do to putin, lukashenko would scream that ukrainians or poles did it, i was fat for lukashenka - this is a special trauma for ukraine because, in fact , the belarusian national military units that are now defending ukraine as part of the armed forces, they promise to return to belarus, this is just a disaster for him because the belarusian opposition except these three military units that are on the territory of ukraine, ethnic belarusians, they have built a system of sports clubs in europe

and they are already several well, somewhere, a few tens of thousands of young people are preparing military and sportsmen of this style for the possibility of gaining power in belarus, that is why lukashenka is scared by this. he is really now pathologically dependent on putin, although he still has eh well, one lozivka is china and he is in the hierarchy of eh chinese eh is a more valuable cadre than putin, i want to say because it is not china, russia is only a transit and well, the market of sales to belarus and that its ability to export some groups of goods at chinese prices to europe well, now, of course, this scenario is no longer playing because lukashenko actually involved russia in this disaster and

lukashenko cannot offer any scapegoats for china, it seems to me that such an attack was planned and if there were ukrainian interests in ukraine, the ukrainian special services have been there for a long time, but the ukrainian security forces do not work on the territory of belarus, in principle , this is very important for the ukrainian services the factor is so that none of the partners could make any objections . moreover, it can be said that lukashenko has already earned money at the hague even in the same case for which a warrant was issued against putin, that is, on kidnapping for the abduction of ukrainian children the head of the belarusian red cross

was involved in the removal of 3,000 children from ukraine without lukashenka. this procedure did not take place . therefore, the belarusian opposition is now spreading the topic of a warrant against lukashenka for kidnapping for child abduction, that is, in the same case that a warrant has already been issued for lvivova-pilova, who is such a functionary for the rights of the russian child and putin personally , that's why i think there is no way for lukashenka. i understand that, judging by what you say, but let's get back to what russia is preparing. we have a synchronous the spokesperson of the security service of ukraine about this provocation, which the russians are preparing on the territory of belarus and for which they want

to blame ukraine , the security service employees received information about a terrorist attack planned in belarus from several sources , in particular, from january, a serviceman of the armed forces forces of the russian federation whom the ukrainian defenders took prisoner in the zaporizhzhia direction, cyber specialists of the sbu also recovered and analyzed the information on the mobile phone of the captured rashist, among other things, it was established that he had previously participated in hostilities against the defense forces in the south of ukraine, and recently he was instructed to relocate to belarus under the guise of member of the private military company wagner, already at the stage of changing the place of service, the russian military received information about a special mission at the moser oil refinery from his telephone cyber specialists the sbu found deleted correspondence with other performers, pictures of objects and separate information about the operation, mr. volodymyr, that putin wants to turn belarus into

such a large platform for provocations, that is , provocations by the ukrainian russian special services against ukraine on the one hand and against poland and lithuania on the other hand, we know that usus corridor is located near this slovak corridor, there are 4,000 wagnerians yesterday the president of lithuania and the prime minister of poland met on this border on the polish-lithuanian svar corridor - this the distance of this corridor is 100 km. well, actually, this is the corridor that can connect belarus, which means russia, by land from the kaliningrad region of the russian federation, but according to you , watching these movements of the wagnerites, because , well, they moved there for a reason, it is unlikely that it was just like exile there saying sent putin and the beauty would be so well