[000:00:00;00] i flew on it a little bit for a year and a half, i think up to two years, i was flying in 97 in 97, yes, for two years, that’s right, these helicopters and pilots clearly knew that they were crossing the border of poland, that is they were carrying out a combat task at the crossing of the mushrooms, so how and at such a speed, the plane can somehow be tied at a high altitude, somehow, at a corner in azimuth, it will jump over there for a kilometer or two, even this will not be noticed, but the helicopters and helicopters knew for sure at these altitudes at low altitudes eh to say that the pilots knew for sure that they were not crossing the border, eh, and i will set them the task of

flying there for 3 km and returning back, this is considered to be a border incident, that is, they initially carried out a provocation to of the border island, later , the action of the poles, they reacted to it, but in another way they could not release the ambassadors, they said, they showed, all the structures of the objective control proved the intersection border and they said ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy 3 km to go back eh and they don’t recognize that they are entering, that is, this is such a provocation, this is provocation, this is touching the red line, that is , when eh, the nato regime will already turn on, i call it erdogan’s regime, when he

shot down the plane in one second, when he entered the future of the territory, although again after several after several warnings, that is, he warned several times, and then he simply shot down in the first second. how did he move? thank you to the novel dawn, a military expert, a colonel of the reserve of the armed forces of ukraine, a military pilot-instructor, and let's move on to diplomacy, i hope volodymyr hrytsko, a diplomat the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine for the seventh and ninth years will now appear before us and before you, and we will talk about what the hell will happen in saudi arabia aravi, good health , mr. volodymyr . thank you for finding time for us on friday evening. i want to start by congratulating you.

i'm sorry, there are no questions related to the grain agreement or clear, clear concentration of facts that without the recognition of the polish idea of ​​volyn, there will be no european integration of ukraine, but i can quote it verbatim, but i think that you know this, er, these posts, it is clear that a person is not saying this according to his own wishes , what is going on in general? well, i would start with italy from your previous guest, the incident that happened on the polish-belarusian border, er , i still think that the right reaction it would have been the downing of one or two helicopters, it would have been probing or groping or anything related to this, it is finally over as long as nato

continues to play these games, and until then it will be dragged to poland, then to lithuania, then to romania, to somewhere else, well, that for me to be honest it's a bad signal, because it means that nato continues to not want to notice obvious things. it's sad. well, what about ukrainian, uh, polish problems ? kuchma, during the time of president yushchenko, we found all the possibilities so that such things remained, of course, not in the public sphere , but on the contrary, we took steps that helped each of the parties in their countries to talk about

reconciliation and in front of this surge he definitely is not er catastrophic but it is extremely unpleasant emotionally er in the emotional plane and i really wish that now we found our diplomacy found ways to minimize these things as much as possible because you see it all started with a grain everything started from the fact that they started telling us how we will be rammed. i'm sorry, they didn't notice the words in the european union and to accustom us to quota restrictions and so on, but for now i want to set these quotas for poland and the park of ukraine there too , it's really not not quite let's put it this way partner position yes, we are sincerely grateful to the poles for the fact that they sheltered

hundreds of thousands of our women and children and they could as they could, but in these topics it is definitely like this. it seems necessary to lower it to the bottom as quickly as possible, so to speak, so that these emotions do not jump over the fence, because it can only get worse. and we know when ukrainians , poles quarrel, and who pops champagne. exacerbations may also appear after october that is, after the elections, what is the specific weight of the october polish elections , that's it, that's exacerbated in this, it exists there

, there is an internal political factor. what profile is the combat profile well, let's say offensive uh, here we are, here we are, here we are, here we are, we are strong. we are not afraid to say whatever we want, we are for the polish national interests. well, who would refuse this? it is obvious that these are key elements. i would really like to be honest. after application in principle, i am already normal here, and president duda made such a statement. well, not yet , i think our colleagues really need to work a little here in order to suggest such and such a step, which, it seems to me , would immediately reduce the degree of this tension by an order of magnitude, well, now everything is possible what can you expect, mr. minister, from this meeting

in saudi arabia? in jd, there seem to be dozens of countries without russia. it seems that there is an optimistic view, although it sometimes appears. and they are not very optimistic, not because of the presence of russia there means that there will not be any russian envoys who will come to jeddah in saudi arabia with pro-russian opinions, but your position is that what can we expect after the meeting in saudi arabia, well, come on, colleagues, let's think aloud about what this meeting in saudi arabia can give she will make a decision that will be followed by everyone. no, she will force russia to do what we want, no, that is, this is a place for the exchange of opinions on the topic of, well

, these 10 points of president zelensky how to build a just peace, that is i see that the main point of this meeting is for our ukrainian delegation to explain to the representatives of this global south that it is more expensive to take the position of the aggressor. because when he is defeated and defeated , they will quickly remember who was on his side and who directly or indirectly helped indirectly. i think that this is a key element that we can count on as, well, some kind of more or less positive result of what can happen there and nothing more, that is, i would not want us to overheat, so to speak that is, the situation with some uh-uh, well, expectations that won't actually be there. that is, it won't be rarer

, there won't be uh-uh, there won't be uh-uh, what can be said later. well, you see, we discussed it and tomorrow we're doing it, well, it won't work out. especially since it's said about what will happen again sometime in the fall, if it will be the peace forum, then there will most likely be those representatives who will gather in saudi arabia on their side. and actually this is what i think is the main idea, well, at least it seems to me to be the main idea which can to be put in front of our diplomacy there. and tell me, it is also very important, you say, that the exchange of views is just to understand who is thinking what , and the eloquence of the ukrainian delegation. how do you rate it, because in order to convince , you need to be persuasive, that is, you need to be eloquent, that is, you need to find arguments to explain. especially since the global south

is well, somewhere there is europe, there are some great white white-skinned uncles fighting among themselves. a great argumentation to encourage the same chinese and indians to join the brazilians if the global south comes and so on and so on and so on , there are forces of the ukrainian delegation that will go there. the effect of e-e well, sms-ki, i call it that when you can calmly e-e write 10 words to one of your counterparties , ask for support, explain your position , and so on. that is, it works today

, official notes, statements, letters, and the like. it already exists or it cannot be done, but it does not work as a main element, will our delegation be able to do it, or will it be so effective there? hm, i can’t say about it because , by the way, i don’t know about the composition of this delegation, except what it has will lead the fair, that's why it's difficult for me to assess how effective it can be, but i know from experience that preparations for such meetings are very serious, well in advance of this meeting, and bilateral contacts are made through the embassy or through some er there, let's say from er centers of international organizations in the same er in new york there or in vienna or in paris depending on the situation and it is er during this

preparation that a position is formed when people they explain what and how, in our opinion, it would be necessary to say and so on, and the event itself is already the end of the process or something, we sometimes think that they came to the event and decided everything there, well, this does not happen at the event , they simply voice those things that it's been talked about for a long time, it's been prepared, it's been agreed upon already then they are brought to the e-e for a general discussion, and most of all china will go there, yes, likhovets himself, the special representative of the ministry of foreign affairs of china for the countries of central europe and a person who deals with the russian-ukrainian war , why did the chinese decide to go to a forum where there will not be russian president of mexico by the way, lopez labrador, he says that he will not go . if this disease occurs, let russia be invited. well, the chinese position is different. china is, in principle, closer to russia than uh, it is true

china's entry is interesting, and i honestly think that he will act in his traditional scheme, so to speak, to see how the situation develops . and what will the audits say? and what will the south africans say? and what will ukraine say? i mean, practically , look at the dynamics of the situation, and it seems to me to take a kind of silent neutral position because for china the whole fundamental decision is whether to continue to support russia

not publicly, but we understand that it is about such an approach or changing his position and if he wants to remain the leader. well, how does he see himself in the future of this south, although this is far from a fact , because india itself is no less important than china can give him great competition and the like, so he needs to demonstrate his equanimity, his eh , such an equidistant approach to a certain extent, eh, and it is precisely because of this that he needs to win the favor of this eh global rooster, so i think that his position will be expected with such observational let's say that the conclusions will not be made much later, the minister, look, let's imagine the positive drift of the positive promotion of what all ukrainians are striving for, and

not only the pressure and such restrictions begin , but the offensive measures of the ukrainian army are limited, but more intense, what reaction can china have in view to the fact that you just said that many countries are watching how it will go on the battlefield, and if russia begins to retreat, then maybe russia, then all the observers. they will lower the degree of support, this is a realistic position of the chinese. they can say well among themselves, yes among themselves, listen, they will lose anyway. well, what are we starting to repeat with them again and make big smiles and big love, moscow, pickind, we will rise, we will win, this is possible in in principle, yes, further for china, and the so-called global south also says, well, it’s not like that, it’s not like that, it’s russia, well

, mr. mykola, i think that this is a very correct position approach, or rather when will it happen and i am convinced of this for all 100%. although let's not get into the position of er, so to speak, the hat throws the investigation that this is about to be on the nose, unfortunately no , unfortunately, this is er, a terrible colossal work of our er, military, our heroes er, and this will probably not happen not very quickly, but the trend is obvious, russia will be defeated and russia will be punished, i think that these two theses are gradually gaining weight in the heads of many leaders, not only

civilized education, but also that global cock er, we will have those that we just talked about in relation to china characteristic for and for others and are and as soon as russia's defeat becomes more and more obvious, they simply will have no other choice but to stand on the side of good, on the side of light , perhaps explaining their certain pre-russian movements with some mistakes misinterpretation, misunderstanding, etc., etc. well, that's known, they want to deal with the winner , that's why i think that after the defeat of russia, if we speak globally, the world will really change radically, i'm not talking about

the perspective, let's say so delicate the transformation of russia into several state entities, in other words, is capable of collapse and disintegration, then it will generally be a colossus and a political global earthquake, but let's not run so far ahead now and wait until our armed forces do their heroic work, i wanted to ask mr. volodymyr about what is happening in africa now, i mean the military mutiny in nigeria, in fact the continent is again on the verge of a real war, but the most interesting thing is that the president of niger, mohammed bazun, today published an article in the washington post in which is also emphasized that if the coup succeeds, if the international community does not stop the nigerien military, the entire territory of this country and the entire region of sakhalin will come under the influence of the wagners of this russian federation , can it be said that putin has beaten the west in

this region of africa or not, well, he is trying to do it to mrs. vitaly and well, let's look at the map. it's a really huge piece of west africa . it's an area that has a strategic importance because it's a powerful economic opportunity that arises in those who he controls this region and that's why he was allowed to live in the wilderness. that's why he 's in belarus now. although he's engaged in provocations on the belarusian-polish border, he actually aims at the rest he will transfer to africa, perhaps, by the way, to some of these three countries, to one of these three countries in order to have an order to help the same by the same on the net

, which he has now already acquired in nigeria, that is, it is in fact, one of the goals of russia is to squeeze france squeeze america squeeze britain, all western countries that traditionally have some influence there and try to put their own puppets is a struggle that goes on and by the way, once again returning to the potential global changes after the collapse of putin's regime, it all disappears because there will no longer be those who will provoke those things, and in this context, you know, i still can't understand why our western partners remain so indecisive, so afraid of russia . even now, it's all just me

. not quite like that understandable er well, not entirely understandable behavior i would really like that finally our western partners er and specifically there by country and together there they have all the opportunities for this to finally understand that er from the collapse or transformation of russia they will win fantastically and in the political plan in the security plan not to mention the economy of volodymyr hrytsko thank you diplomat of the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine for the seventh to ninth years now now there will be advertising then we will have a conversation you won't believe between september the porter like this advertising there are discounts on pills citramone-donnitsa 10% in pharmacies plantain bam and save pain can become an obstacle because

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saturdays are at espresso, dad, who were you during the war , a defender, a defender ? the question posed by the minister of aggresco about why the west does not fight and does not oppose russian influence in africa. i think that in the west everyone understands that this is a matter of months. well, maybe one year russia will not have the resources to put pressure on the region in any way sahal, which i will explain to the audience, is south of the sahara desert. the sahara is bordered by the mediterranean sea. in fact , it ends and is a semi-desert. this is the sahel. there are many different countries and there are many different wagnerites or monotonous people

. i don’t know if they are diverse or monotonous , and they really want something there. but even though mykola wants gold, they don’t have any resources in russia, but it’s hard for me to imagine. they have the opinion that russia is commensurate with the ussr, it is not commensurate with the ussr absolutely, and therefore in order to keep it there even the military contingent is small , feed it, pay salaries here and there, the 50th, we need to create an air bridge, moscow is there, i don’t know dakar, for example, whether moscow is kana crete or moscow there, i don’t know, nigga, and it ’s difficult, it’s millions, millions, millions , millions of money, i can’t imagine that for russia to achieve some results there, china, i believe

, is a great resource, monetary investment. it seems to me absolutely, tell me your opinion, i am deliberately going from there, i went there, the french say, ok, you want a coup, you want that's what you want ok without us you think that wagner will help you well then hope for wagner we would go to paris go to paris goodbye so i just can't understand this poor country is real and every month it gets poorer i mean russian federation and believe that in six months a year she is the same with such muscles will come to africa again russia's trade with africa is one percent of the trade of the african continent and one percent then the question arises why the president of african countries should go to sochi to st. petersburg is now less or more when it comes to a country that, in principle, does not play any role in african

political life or economic life, but russia, as it has always been in their history , always replaces economic cooperation , hooliganism, but look at mali and burkina faso supported the niger coup and reported that if there is any attempt to send troops into nigen, they will consider this a declaration of war, this is not one country, it is already three countries that we rule, idiot, well, finally, we have the rest this a great example of the republic of cuba, which idiots have been ruling for many years, 50 years, you understand 64 64 and it hasn’t happened yet, and raul castro is still alive and continues to be essentially the informal leader of the country, but i’m not saying that it will be like this in africa. there