[000:00:00;00] there is a misunderstanding regarding this meeting. that is, this window has not yet been fully used, and what did putin mean in the telephone conversation with erdogan when he said that the west, according to the istanbul agreements , must fulfill the commitments made to russia, that it has been fulfilled, so let's say that in the context of the grain agreement, this is the connection of the banks of the world, there are certain banks, this is the unblocking of the export of russian food, the lifting of sanctions, and it is good in the case of minerals, which are currently suspended, and in addition , there was also a soft pipeline known, but now i guess he sent the notice, that is, at least this is the lifting of part of the sanctions, this is what is being announced not publicly, or rather publicly, but what is not publicly? putin meant here the question , we are seeing a significant escalation in the black sea from the russian side, now, well, the

answer was apparently from the ukrainian side, but this everything is playing with muscles, playing with nerves in order to, well, at least show, they say, that only the grain agreement can ensure peace in the black sea and safe, relatively safe shipping, but a or but, will putin agree to this further, what will be the means of those who it is an open question, and as far as we can see, at least nato calmly watched as russia destroys ukrainian ports and there was no special reaction, at least so far, that ’s because you all really criticize the president and the world reacts so let’s say sluggishly to all this but nevertheless, he already made a statement and appealed to the countries

of the united nations organization so that, after all, they would react in some way in unity to this blackmail with hunger committed by the russian federation, but what concrete steps can do either the western countries separately or the un countries in general well, there the question was specifically a military threat, there are many testimonies that even drones and missiles are flying over the territory of romania, the reactions, according to which we see the same applies to belarusian helicopters in poland, yes, that is, the reaction that well caused the ambassadors wrote a document that is not ready, nato is not ready, these countries are not ready for such direct military actions, even at the vocal level, in order to open this kind of e-e window that everyone is afraid of, the window of further excavation when, at one time, russia announced its withdrawal from the new agreement, a few days before that

, the white house security adviser - this is lebanon, he said that russia will pay a big price if it withdraws from the agreement today. to his all-ukrainian arabia, at least 30 representatives of different countries will ask where is this high price when russia will pay, because blinkin's latest statements, well, this is such a transfer of responsibility from one side to the other, we see from the military plan that these ukrainian attacks that took place although there ukraine's plus-minus birch trees are responsible or not well, this is one of the steps that now puts the single-layer rods in danger . sanctions of the west. that is, someone gave, as if from the sanctions in that sense, permission . that is, someone gave the green light to such a conditional

escalation in the black sea, and somewhere with one hand they are doing it with the other hand. there is a possibility that this will all stop if they return to the fodder agreement. well, now we will see how realistic all these plans are, how far russia will make concessions in this case . moreover, since this is a grain agreement, they are historically constantly around it. they behaved, they went out there for one day, then they came back in. well, now the question is what will happen in the next two or three weeks, you know, sacred , a sacred term for everything that evaluates the ukrainian situation, yes, in this case, it really exists in saudi arabia in the middle of the month he will show a lot at least about the prospects of this new agreement, are they real or not? well, the harvest is already there. it must be taken out and not

be expected there in september, october, and so on. and what do you think i can show to the saudi summit? well, the saudi castle and we'll see. first of all, what will the ukrainian delegation bring from there, will it be specifics , or will it be just that we got together, listened, and will part ways, so far there are no such deep insiders on the topic of whether something will be decided there, because, well, they just gathered to talk and show for now the role of ice arabia as a peacemaker. but will there be any kind of conflict in the end? what will be the next steps, will the issue of the grain agreement be included, or will there be a possibility of putting pressure on russia? what will these countries say, again, there is that? saudi arabia is the main thing for russia, in what tone will it go, or is it just diplomatic ways of finding the ukrainian people, as

the saudis are talking about today, and not the russian war against ukraine, at least some of them, and so on. meet, that is, there are many big questions here, and about realism, to what extent they will be able to turn russia back in this direction, either yes or washed. here, logic suggests banally two options, mykhailo well, if we talk about what the ukrainian side expects, then we need to look at what the deputy was counting on from the very beginning the head of the opposite party and nakhna wrote that at least we plan to harmonize the philosophy of some of the points of the ukrainian peace formula with constructive proposals from other countries, and the ukrainian delegation will be able to conduct multilateral and bilateral negotiations with representatives of more than 30 leading countries in europe, asia, and so on, and so on, africa, and so on. mykhailo, if this formula of peace from our president zelensky is agreed upon, then not the western world,

can it even agree to it, considering that our demands there are very strict we will not leave the battlefield, let's say, with the signing of some peace agreements without our victory , a concrete victory, which consists in the fact that we return all our territories. i think that the reaction of the global south to which in basically, we expect it to be somewhat reminiscent of the chinese mardvan, that is, there may be a question that the conflict must be resolved on the basis of international law and respect for the territorial integrity of the countries involved in it. and here is a clarification of what is meant by territorial integrity. is this there is a return to the borders of the year 901, you are on the ukrainian side. are these some

negotiations in the middle? that if you take a large part of the global cock at the last vote in the un, even there the question of crimea is with others , then quite a lot of countries of the arab world gave the green light, that is, they are in favor of the restoration of territorial rights, and specifically even those un declarations where it is a question of well, in internationally recognized borders ukraine is another question. what well, it can be declared because the occupation of crimea is recognized there in essence, and crimea there and donbas, for example, by syria. since they recently returned to the league of arab states, but other countries do not recognize it, and we we do not see a significant effect of the other, for example, with crimea, of the same businessmen of the judicial arabia of the land, at least publicly so, that is, they will agree to it. but will this position affect their relations with russia? that is, it can be both so and

so. we maintain neutrality and continue to trade, reduce or increase oil production based on our interests . this is quite logical for saudi arabia with china and india. it is clear that the story here is more complicated, especially with china. that there are other issues now in taiwan, chinese-american relations and many other things that are connected somewhere but go beyond the context of russian aggression against ukraine, thank you, thank you, mr. mykhailovych , we will find out, we were in touch we will continue the saturday political club literally in a few minutes always it is easier to get poisoned when ordinary water is not enough for adults and children i recommend reo we will save ourselves with water reo water for special medical purposes pain can become

an obstacle not with my knees dolgit cream relieves pain, reduces swelling and improves mobility of the joints is also possible on foot the only yellow cream for joint pain and for muscle spasms dolgit antispasmodic tablets to relax muscles and threads why am i here i have sensitive teeth they eat ice cream pain cold air pain sweet pain the dentist advised lacalutensitive what effectively reduces sensitivity teeth if i knew kalut senses you in earlier i wouldn't have had to come here at all lakalot sensiti reliable protection against pain turn it on well when everything is quiet click and now you are in control of the game watch go to the tv show what we need to google turn on hundreds of channels in thousands of movies and sports i discounts on spazmalgon 15%

in pharmacies podorozhnyk for you and savings events the most important events events that are happening just now and affect our lives of course the news feed reports about them, but not enough to know what is happening, you need to understand antin borkovskyi and invitation experts soberly assess the events and analyze them by modeling our near future what on saturdays at 1:00 p.m. with a repeat at 10:00 p.m. studio event with anton borkovsky nayspresso about so that ukrainians don’t think about so that they don’t talk first war is still out, war is our victory, only on espresso from monday to monday , completely different spheres of human activity, sports , health, politics, the return of crimea, military

analytics, nine presenters, journalists , experts, opinion leaders in real time about the most current events through the prism of war in author's projects on espresso de-occupation and how can you live for yourself, you can incomparably , the history of the liberated cities of ukraine went let's see how our brothers helped us freed a normal life freed of normal equipment of pro-russian inhumans, it was terrible, very terrible, every day, one house at a time, two houses were burned, and the nazis of the ukrainian people are here. yes, we are all nationalists here. did the residents resist? the residents came here, stopped them and sent them back and became heroes. the novel was and will always be ukraine about the unbreakable . cities of ukraine from the ukraine project in

the de-occupation documentary cycle that on saturdays at 11:10 a.m. at espresso with you vitaliy portnikov and we will discuss the main events of this week vitaliy portnikov and top experts about the brightest events for the last seven days, our guest will be the generator of satellite forces, the national security adviser of the president of the united states, donald trump, herbert maxer, the artist, all current topics, pressing questions, authoritative comments and forecasts in the project, an informational marathon with vitaly portnikov every sunday at 20:10 at espresso, we continue the saturday political club , angelika sezonnka and vitaly portnikov good evening to all who have joined us , we are just starting almost an hour, a little less answers vitaly bortnikova, his comments

on the main events of this week, we will start of course, it is here for saudi arabia and for vitaliy, what is the interest of saudi arabia in being a mediator between ukraine and the russian federation, already the crown prince muhammad, then salman wants to become like that, well, some image and improve to become like that, the main thing in this. i think that this is part of this global game saudi arabia wants to be, i said, the dominant force in the middle east , besides, it competes for this role with iran, and we know that there were quite difficult relations between these countries, even the break in diplomatic relations was, by and large, only chinese efforts managed to improve the quality of relations a little and are happy when it gathers people like you, firstly, it shows the united states that it plays such a serious role as a mediator between the west and the global one, and secondly, in one way or another, it shows russia its independent

role, and for russia, relations with saudi arabia are a very important thing. taking into account the fact that today if the scarab increases oil production , it immediately becomes quite difficult for russia from an economic point of view, we talked about this with pal klimkin, any problems financially of the russian budget, one way or another, can change putin from the point of view of his plans for a multi-year war, it is enough because when we talk about a multi-year war, we remember such a thing, plans are plans, and money is money for a multi-year war, everyone needs people, money and resources we understand that ukraine also doesn't have that many people, er, that resources, money, measures, russia has more people, but money, resources, too, are not as much as it seems, so in this regard, er, i think that we should realize how regional

the problem is related to the role of saudi arabia in organizing such a meeting for the russians. saudi arabia organized such a meeting. moscow was not invited, and this is positive for us, of course, because we have a chance to discuss our position with the global rooster in one way or another. not even with regard to the peace formula as such. well, at least with regard to the point of view that the territorial integrity of ukraine should be recognized and should be a value not only for us, but also for countries of the global level, so that many of these countries really take a neutral position, which is how we understand it it's all bad, but we don't want to sever ties with the russian federation and here we can just say well, you don't want to sever ties, it 's your economic right for such a political one, but you still have to convey to the russian federation that the very annexation of foreign territories is contrary your view of the world on these relations, and if certain countries agree to come there, they know that russia is not there , that means they are not ready to listen to it one way or another

. not everyone comes there with great joy , you can see that there are mexican ancestors it is national security, there is the president of mexico and the description of the obrodor says that russia should be invited there, so that from russia it does not matter as a peace summit, of course it does not matter, there cannot be peace without the participation of one of the parties to the war, but how the pressure itself can matter, that is true that china nevertheless took part through its special recognition of kali hoya, this is a victory for us and a certain success, we do not know what the chinese hopes are for this meeting, it is you who say that the americans are going to convince china to change its position on the war along with this the chinese may believe that if they come there, they will influence the position of the global level, which they will not allow the americans , so to speak , to take countries that are interested in relations with china very far from this model of behavior that china has not tied in recent

months, look at what was a whole lot of peace plans, brazilian, indonesian , south african , african, headed by amophoska, the president of south africa, by and large, all the countries that presented peace plans are interested in personal relations with china in economic relations, and it is precisely when the representatives of these countries appear that china is not there, of course, you know, such a bias goes in the direction of the united states, when china is there, then the representative of the united states recognizes china , they can exchange positions right during this summit, and this in one way or another allows china is trying to impose its position on at least a large part of the participants of this site, so i don't know how much this is a victory, a victory. it means that china agreed in principle to a meeting without russia, but the result may be the failure of those expectations that the west has from this itself. that's all. ask everything. i came to balance the position of the measures. maybe the countries

of the global south can then, you know , have to choose who they will support, or, as they say , the beautiful or the intelligent. they can balance for too long. they don't know. you don’t need to choose anything special, it’s a question of money , how much china is ready to help invest money, how much you are the economic power they need now, how much you can replace the western countries in the chinese offer, it’s all quite cynical. i wouldn’t said that the global south is so strongly guided by the question of value in this situation because for it this is a distant foreign war and it is also necessary consciously, it is its own war for europe because it is happening literally on its border and lead to serious migration problems and lead to a serious change of the the economic structure of the european continent, connected there with the rejection of russian oil and gas, this is the united states' own war. because it is a war for values ​​and themes, we see that now the americans' support for ukrainians is decreasing

according to the latest sociological survey, many americans believe that america has already done everything it could, and this is enough , but for the global level, this is generally a foreign war, well, you understand, just as we are not very interested in any wars in latin america or africa. there were also, let's say , good guys and bad guys, there were people who violated international law, but people who wanted to restore it were not interested in us at all, it led to serious tragedies if we look at the m.m. news tape from the time of the russian-ukrainian war, we will see there essentially a civil war in ethiopia where huge numbers of people are dying. countries of the sakhalin with jihadists, now the government of burkina faso is a military pound that has invited to

wagner's country. i control 40% of the territory of this country , 60% is literally going, but the population is really exterminated. who can say that this is ukraine? was interested before the war and is interested during the war, there are no such examples, i can give you a huge number of reasons why when we take offense at those in brazil or those in nigeria who are not interested in the war well, we must understand that nigeria is currently preparing for a possible operation in nigeria where the military captured the power, in principle, created the prerequisites for wagner to come to this country , after all, everything points to the fact that it was the wagnerites who committed these provocations and the presence of the alarmist at the summit where african countries were and yes, russia, africa, and directly that the wagnerites are present there, and prigozhin publicly supported this coup that took place in nigeria, well, look, the slander does not admit at all

that it was prepared by the weight, but admits that wagner can use it more than that literally a few minutes before our conversation there was a news e-e agency of the usa and here the press what is the nigerian nigerian i apologize the military junta has turned to wagner for help because tomorrow is the last day of the ultimatum which may lead to his failure to fulfill the pre-war apparatus of the neighboring countries and france to niger and by and large they can invite wagner so that wagner will protect them from this operation so wagner can in any case take advantage of this situation the situation is very bad for many reasons the first one is related to the fact that no gerbof i would say an outpost of democratic processes in this region of africa, the only country that

preserved traditions conditionally, i would say such a change of power in general, president niger was the first current president was the first in the history of this country to gain power at all through the transfer of this power, it is the remnants of democracy, yes, on the continent, it is in that mountain that there were remnants in africa in general now. practically all countries are democratic, except for the countries of the chechel. in all other countries, it works in one way or another. it is different types of democracy. it is managed. it is unmanaged . it is real. where the jihadists are active, there were four military coups, one for the other, in mali , in burkina faso, and now these are very risky territories. i already said that burkina is being packed , in general, it controls half of ukraine, in mali , the situation is also very bad. so, from all these countries

french troops came out. they redistributed to niger, so, in principle, there were very high hopes for it. by the way, the president of niger was one of the few african leaders who spoke with the president of ukraine. volodymyr zelenskyi recognized the peace formula as a priority. if they do not return to power, the niger army will most likely get rid of military aid from the west, it can get wagner as a force on the bayonets of which it will keep power in it, but it is unlikely that it will be able get wagner as a force capable of resisting the jihadists, this has been shown by the experience of mali and burkina faso and other african countries where wagner comes, he can help the current government to hold on , he does it effectively, he can steal the natural resources of the countries in which he is located, he can effectively, but the struggle with the jihadists does not lead to anything serious. but

at the same time it leads to mass repressions against the local residents, which further undermines the social base of all those forces fighting against the jihadists. what did you understand, president? niger made a special program for the return of people who fought in e-e units of jihadists to a peaceful life. this program has been successful in recent months and allowed many people to return to e-e peaceful life. this is despite the fact that you must understand that there are no real economic prospects for these people from any there were no poor african villages that went to these camps. well, there were simply no bees there. i was reading an interview with one such uh-oh jihadist who decided to use the program of returning to a peaceful life. he said that there is nothing in my village

there is no but jaha disty give you all the meat of women and a motorcycle you need for happiness everything you need for happiness what you need if there is meat from a woman and a motorcycle name me another one some kind of male happiness and here are the people people are after these i would say there is little chance. you must understand that this guy may never see a motorcycle again in his life. i don't tell a woman a woman . maybe he will see a motorcycle again. god , i will never meet him again, and this motorcycle may not even see a woman. it also happens like that . the truth also happens. so it's a whole history and now the new military government of niger, it is canceling all these programs , it has not been a few days since she said that this is a soft attitude towards these people. they are criminals

, they killed, they killed in large numbers. behave and what does such behavior mean, it creates a social base for these new things, and this destabilization of the african continent is definitely not in our interests, because every generation of a crisis weakens the west . i'm not saying that you understand that putin still lives with the idea of ​​this migration well, any worsening of the social situation in africa. they will be that the number of migrants increases, this is what russia wants to offer to france . vote as we need. you know this, he can put pressure on the end of the leaders, but by and large, voting in the un is also a completely ritualistic thing, there you need to look at some specific problems that may arise if the west in e-e leaves

the sakhalin region is definitely in favor of the russian federation, and the russian federation. did you understand that it accounts for about half a percent of african trade ? it does not play any role there at all. and how economically does china play a role? it invests huge money in africa in the west. the united states of america. france well, of course , these are huge investments, listen , even israel has serious social and economic programs there with those african countries that recognize its right to exist. country, but its economic role in africa cannot be compared with the economic role of the russian federation, but why does russia take the west of africa by supporting governments that are not sure of their legitimacy and popularity? that is, it offers bayonets, and this

also proves a lot. africa, we will move to poland, because wagner is also there, so what is this, mr. vitaliyu , for such a response from nato countries and directly from the united states of america, on the one hand, of course, this is an expectation that they will not apply article five simply because russian belarusian helicopters crossed the airspace. yes, but on the other hand, where is the border, then what red lines can russia cross, because belarus is russia, so that putin was answered by the prime minister of israel, about a million, then explaining the position of his country in relation to russia -ukrainian war, he once said that it is necessary to realize that israel is entering this war with the situation that it has a border with russia , there is no real border with russia from israel and they cannot have one

, but the fact that the russians are in syria means that the russian mercenaries are in the target, the fact that wagner is in the gray makes israel's relations with the russian federation absolutely above what they were when eh in eh territories of syria was completely controlled by the regime of your time, the pike of his father khas, the same applies to the actions of eh russia is in any similar situation when it creates a border with russia, you see, we were talking now about africa, where russia is creating a border with russia with the help of wagner, there are some countries that have borders with burkina faso and small ones could say that they have a border with russia, it is dangerous today, the coat of arms was the border with russia and what on what did this lead to, now the russians are creating a border, increasing the border with poland, lithuania , they sent the wagners there, of course, well, poland is on yours yes, there are borders with russia in the form of the leningrad region but