[000:00:00;00] however, it is not enough to know what is happening, you need to understand antin borkovskii and the invitation experts soberly assess the events and analyze them by modeling our near future that saturdays at 1:00 p.m. with a repeat at 10 p.m. studio event with anton borkovskii we are urgently returning to the air now with us will be victor bondarenko , bureau expert analysis and politics , let's talk about politics with him. yes. good day . if you say so, to sum up the past week , was politics lively in ukraine? what were its main trends, or are there trends trends? well, i would

said that the main foreign political event was a meeting in jeddah, so that if the saudis offered what was there, china and india, brazil , well, that is, the key states that, if they declared their neutrality, would not support ukraine but if they don't support russia, although we understand that china is helping them there to the full extent, if it can, well, that 's the main event. well, internal events are, as always, a showdown among the servants, the servants are trying to do uh, that's what it looks like if an institute of reputation is formed that all those who are tarnished would be removed and there may be such an impression that zelensky planned to make an institute of reputation, although this

is not the case at all, because in the office of the president they do not chase any tatars there taxi for civilizations, well, for the so-called civilized countries , yes, it’s western european there and with a continuation there for the ocean uh, well, the united states, canada, australia, and so on . now it weighs the same just for zelensky's ratings and the people's opinion, it's clear that when we get out of the war and there are elections, they will re-rent the people's opinion, because , well, that's how tarnished the tarnished brand is already they are now showing that we don't take

those who are dirty, and this is the first, that is, this is the usual populism, and the second is internal pressure, factional pressure, that is disciplining, and that everyone must obey arahamia and his boss yarmak. and everyone who doesn't listen, they are going there in the direction of the downed pilots er so that we don't get the general impression that er servants of the people are changing they are changing no it's not like that it 's just er now er this is the situation well here last week exactly there was a mention of the fair, it was quite clearly quoted, even last week there was such a rather speculative article about american politics, where they actually quoted adrian karatnytskyi, a well-known ukrainian-born american political scientist and historian who is right there.

there would have been zelensky if, god forbid, something had happened to him and what would he have refused then, relatively speaking, more or less yarmak would have led the country then, and of course , mr. danylo from the nsdc and i don’t know where, knyazhytskyi wrote he also mentioned this in the same article. he said that we clearly have according to the constitution that it goes to the conditional stephanchuk and everything here, there would be nothing to say, but on the other hand, what we see next week, conditionally speaking, this is happening gigi, it's super. this one is important, where several tens of countries gathered. so, where china, with its rival, this lichway, it is correct to say left , because there is sometimes a question as to how it is pronounced correctly, because in english it sounds completely and looks completely obscene, but in the conditions of chinese, it will still be easy, yes that is, all the important people meet with them, but yermak, not president

zelensky , for example, what is interesting. the secretary of the president's office, well, in fact, this is a person who has to make tea or coffee there. yes, but he left ukraine. he is a person who does not have any constitutional powers. he does not have the status of minister of foreign affairs there . yes, they sent him there. yarmak, however, he was sent there and he is like a de facto type, well, everyone will understand that it is not a fact that the country is run by yarmak . yes, he rules through the ears of the president. yes, he , uh, has access to the ears of the president, he forms decisions. it's uh well don't you think that zelensky himself sits down and writes

a presidential decree there, or there is something else there, or even protocol instructions . someone does it, and as a rule, it is done in a project, a project, that is, they come to a meeting with a draft decision, and this project is done by someone, and this project they do in yarmak's office. even if it's a government meeting , it still agrees with yarmak's office. in our country, de facto, yarmak rules because he rules through tatarov, uh, the judicial branch of government, uh, because of that. stefanchuk rakhamiu eh he rules the verkhovna rada because of the bumblebee, he rules the cabinet of ministers , but everyone is a yoke and de facto m-m a person who has no constitutional relationship to power de facto rules well, like in normal countries, there is a legislative power

. well, like in the same united states, there is an executive power and they somehow have to communicate with each other . we have an authoritarian country with a suppressed democracy that fights for civilization for democracy. well, that is such a paradox . and someday historians will write that an authoritarian country is fighting for democratic ones the value of the question of how long the war will last and the question of what the government will be, for example, after a few more years of the war, just under such conditions , eh, the war, well, who knows when the war will end , how will our offensive in the south end this year, eh, the russians can fall in march , march itself it is such an uncomfortable month for war, but, well, they can in the winter, but both societies are ready for war , so far, russian and ours, that is, and our president is electorally dependent, and if

the society is ready to fight for victory by the way, i don't really believe this. who is your last one? dasha, 30% of ukrainians are already ready for a truce, well, on any terms. i think that this is a very high figure. i think that somewhere around 80%, so far er ukrainians are ready to fight er according to the formula er the border of 1991 i and pr look at one project despite the frontline communities yes ot i will also have a business trip tomorrow and er these are the communities in which they are being resettled now a seven-kilometer zone of 18 such communities in the sumy region, and each time i have a different audience and i conduct such a mini-survey what is victory for you? yes, there is victory, here is the status quo, where we stand there and

reconcile . year and the fourth option is when moscow is on fire, that's all the majority of people, for example , i have 30 people there at these sessions, then with 30-25 i can say for sure that we are going to the borders of the year 91 and we will consider this as our victory i congratulate ukraine's victory in the communities in which you do not have the concept of anxiety in kyiv because first a shell arrived and then they already announced the alarm when , well, you know, it was full near borjomi. well, these are people in those communities, and it is usually not the youth age group, these are people who definitely have children and grandchildren and they are ready for a victorious end

to fight, i think there somewhere in chernivtsi and zakarpattia, never a day there, er, nobody fired at anyone , so there this figure will be even higher. well , actually, you know what surveys i lack, relatively speaking. i understand that all surveys have a customer in one way or another that is, someone paid physically for sociological money companies in order for you to have this survey appear and it can be as if closed , for example, the party bought some measurements and kept them for its internal use, this is why it is necessary and even now they are measuring, i think , the ratings of politicians and so on and the attitude towards some sensitive issues, but on the other hand, in levada , for example , the russian center is semi-underground, and it is already a sociological and similar service. to fight or give your children to this war now and there was immediately a correlation

of the question why would i say everything? they say, they go to any car, whatever car you buy, they say well, i go to a porsche car dealership and get a new piston, and ok, but it costs, here are the racks, ok, and where lanos are sold here, well, you understand what i'm talking about, the price is always a question prices prices victory ya also for the burning of moscow. well, we understand what i'm getting at when people ask me when the war will end. i say when some society gets tired of fighting, either russian or us, and then the war will end . in other words, someone will look for a way to peace on well, let's say about those in the conditions that will be at that time. yes, it is very specific for the russians , that is, they are ready for peace, but where have they stopped now, there are the new borders of russia, but

this is also a question of prices in order for the price , for example, our price this war was many times less than the russians. that is to say, this is also a question of this in general. we see how the war is changing. in the one and a half years of the war , the tactics have completely changed and the one who will have , for example, more drones, that is, who can not fight in the trenches, yes, because there are soldiers in the trenches, will win. they pray for, and if he does not make very frequent rotations, well, two months in the trenches is, well, something terrible, this, well, it can only be felt by those who survived, who spent two months in the trenches , uh, well, i, i had experience there for two weeks and two weeks - that's damn zest and two months for me i can't even imagine what kind of behavior this is. and accordingly, a soldier then comes on leave if he is demoralized, he is demoralized

by his loved ones, and so on . and so on. and so on . brotherhoods when a platoon fights for each other because it's easier to survive that way yes, there is a soldier's brotherhood, such a motivator for russians, these are two motivations we have these two motivations are here and they pay decent soldier's brotherhood yes brotherhood is so-called but we still have additional motivations, we know what bucha irpin gostomel is, yes , that's why we will stand until the end, they won't let them into our families . additional motivation, no matter how banal it sounds, we are fighting for the homeland, and it's not clear what for the neighbors and finally , our fifth motivation is a very cool motivation , we are brave, we will understand them psychologically well, that is, our fighter is stronger

than a russian bull, yes russkie boets worthy boets here, uh, and including the wagnerites, yes but we and we are stronger, that's why he says, we have five motivations, they have two of them, they are for the sea, their army will freeze faster, and not only that, they don't have such frequent rotations as ours, we are taken out for rotation more often, so i i think that they will start raining heavily there by the month of march, especially if we destroy a certain kerch bridge there , you understand that war is also a styleless war , well, actually, where do our rockets or their martyrs reach, but for us it is already a styleless war and for them it is the rear, that is, the general of the staff for 100 km from the front , you can't guarantee a good night. thank you, mr. viktor. viktor bondarenko, an expert of the analysis and policy bureau. thank you

. was very bloody for the americans in particular, but we remember that it ended, this landing lasted as long as three weeks, they could not break through the german defense line, but they only broke through further, they went forward, well, the situation here is more difficult, we have less forces more, a much, much larger line of breakthrough, and the muscovites have been preparing for a longer time. well, let's also hope that it will be possible to push forward only about the rema. what do we show next ? in general, where was the peace plan for ukraine discussed among danilov , the deputy director of the center for middle eastern studies , will help us understand what was ultimately agreed upon in saudi arabia, any

such public statements, uh, where exactly it was written that what and to what purpose did not sound p. sergey, we congratulate you, i congratulate you. how would you actually evaluate this meeting for saudi arabia, how successful it is for ukraine , for the world, for russia, well, for us, it is successful, in any case, no one expected there any a breakthrough, moreover, if you read the regional press , somewhere in the eastern and saudi ones. they immediately wrote about the fact of the event and , most importantly, the number of countries and the level of representation, in this case it was much more important than some kind of e-e document or statement or there are pebbles that will be presented because it is about positioning - it is enlightenment after russia, it is not about our regulation , not about what, how, under what conditions the war will end

, but who and how will position themselves at the moment when it ends, this is an important signal , because russia was not invited there this is the first, second, where did these people come, that is, many, not only us, considered rather allies of russia between ukraine and who came to transform their political programs , their ideas about russian aggression, from pro-russian to more neutral, for example from neutral to more pro-ukrainian and this is the most important thing, and by the way, the presence of china in our country is important for us and what does this say, well, there were two versions, the chinese are going to break the group, that is, in fact,

to stand on the side of russia and in this way not to give a letter. well, there was somehow a result, again, a result and that was not planned, although they are talking about these three points, the first is, well, if the platform on which the jids themselves are gathering and which he confirmed. point one is respect for the territorial integrity and independence ukraine is a settlement on the basis of the un meeting and on the principles of the un and the exchange of prisoners for everyone with a ceasefire and the second was that the chinese are sending such unambiguous signals. how can they be read that they are also considering the option that the war may end

according to the russian scenario, and here is a group of countries that claims to be the second or third third center in the global world , and not the participation of china. was it is important to simply participate in order to understand where it can move, what direction, what moods, what signals are coming from brazil, india, saudi arabia, turkey , when they talk about russia without russia , because the chinese can tell russia. after this meeting, and i don't know what it is, they tell her something i think that russia itself , my beautiful ears, at all such meetings, they do not

need a mediator, but the fact that russia was not invited and does not plan to be invited, for example, to these negotiations in india and there to what well, that is, is it in principle, is it normal, would russia like to be present? at this meeting, of course, i wanted to, but there . this is a humiliating situation for them. significantly, the participant is not the initiator, she is not the one who delegated it to someone, and uh, their situation is such that they need to be there in their own interests in order to separately agree to conduct their legal affairs there and everything else, and they don’t

you can be present because this is a format that was invented about them without them and in this situation there is nothing left, the name is, well , pretending that nothing important happened there , you see well, either we are for peace and ukraine is against that is why message let's go now russia, or in short, have we not come close to any guarantees or to the mechanisms of the future of the future of peace, thanks to this meeting ? without russia, this is the main thing, it’s not about us, it’s about ukrainians. we need to clearly understand this ourselves about education with russia and about and this is precisely about sambir arabia, about india, about brazil, about

the south african republic, about positioning, about leadership, about the new one after the end of the war, but the second so that in the dry residue it is that they uh-uh uh-uh that the formula in which the territorial integrity and independence of m-m finds new support, this is the main thing too to have a consensus behind the observance of principles ukraine is an independent sovereign state, a member of the un, dear chinese, hindus, you support it, territorial integrity is a priority, we support it, it will be in the dry balance, we have less than three

minutes left to talk to you, mr. serhievna, i wanted to ask you about a possible trip a-a putin 's visit to turkey, which may take place at the end of august, why will putin go there and can he still return to russia after his visit to turkey? well, he is going, not erdoğan , he is going to him, according to past trips when erdoğan sushi arrived, uh, they were not announced so loudly, but here again the russians are faced with a difficult choice, erdogan will not need putin, who will not sign the same grain agreement, even if they call it anything else, but the essence should be preserved, yes well, they will invent something else, they will draw some ribbons, they will sew some ruffles on it, they will change the name, but the point is that it should be

the same. and he will go with some new economic projects or with the confirmation of many existing ones. mainly about money uh and about syrian black sea affairs and ukrainian affairs well, somewhere they will probably find some straight lines on some separate issue putin's trip to erdoğan in turkey, dear friends. and then we will talk about what kind of winter awaits us, what should we prepare for or buy generators, candles, e.e., flashlights

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