[000:00:00;00] well, there were some technical points that led to the explosion today. valery, the head of the permanent delegation of the verkhovna rada to the nato parliamentary assembly , yehor in june, informed that the key parliamentary factions in germany, well, the bundestag of germany reached a consensus on the transfer of long-range taurus missiles to ukraine, which can hit up to 500 km. he says that it has not been officially announced yet , but this is already a decision, you have always been a supporter, i remember, and you publicly articulate your position that the event should provide long-range missiles are long-range weapons for ukraine, not only germany, but also the united states of america, if germany provides us with these taurus missiles, this will change the general

situation and the general perception of the west that long-range missiles are already on the territory of ukraine, and this may open the door, including for american weapons, why do we have problems now, and it’s no secret that we have russia , the distance to achieve goals is not comparable, that is , they use strategic bombers without orders to launch missiles like that, and just on our territory, and also are not accurate and that is why they hit civilian objects and they do it on a massive scale. that is, let's say escalation , as they once said that the provision of missiles will no longer be like that, it is already there, that is, snakes are launched by hummingbirds, there are caliber daggers from the sea, strategic bombers were able to launch a bunch of missile modifications. that is,

we if we are not somehow balanced here , it is very difficult to fight with them, but what is more important are these missiles, they make it possible to simply destroy warehouses, destroy exactly what fuels the war. i would say that this is a weapon of peace. it's not a weapon, it's a defense weapon. that's right. defensive weapons, ours have shown now how they use french or british missiles, yes, to destroy the actual bases of fuel reserves or logistics there, and it saves lives, it saves lives. i believe that each such missile the later it is delivered to ukraine, the more to the regret of the dead people, therefore it is absolutely fair to get it faster, why now well, first of all, i see that such a request was made even publicly , do you remember the material, even the public

article of the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine and as far as i understand his deputy zabrodskyi zaluzhny zabrotskyi - it was made public a long time ago that we need to overcome this imbalance at least if i don't have airplanes because there is no such war in the textbooks where one country completely dominates in distance and the other tries leading like the first world war doesn't happen like that, and i'll tell you frankly, of course we have no way out, there will be a victory and the de-occupation of the territory of ukraine, but any new weapon like this gives more balance in this asymmetric war, that's why it's now don't do why pull i don't see if it was possible to explain something earlier so uh, i'm not talking anymore i'm not talking about the number because

even a small amount of such a missile from the us side immediately opens the question but right away because the history the minister of defense said that the americans will give and we will think about a political solution, this is not enough . well, i would very much like to support mr. chernigov's optimism. he, by the way , is working in this direction himself to achieve this , so you know, he really wants it, as do we. everyone should speed it up, but the system there works a little differently, i think that the speeding up of this allocation would be the provision of a missile like this to the united states , that would definitely change the situation right away, and uh, they say that we can’t use them there right away, we need to teach them so that it is the ukrainians but germans, well, listen, well, this is already a technical issue, so i don’t see any serious reasons, even from the point of view of the interests of the united states

, for biden personally to delay it , to delay it further, and why do you think the united states of america is delaying takams? well, you know american cuisine well. look, to be honest, they were not ready for such a large-scale use of weapons, that is, they have certain contracts , including before this missile. i know that in other situations, with other types of weapons, they found a solution when you it was even contracted for delivery to another country. they found a solution there, they added some gingerbread there and supplied it later to ukraine and i am sure that this can be done with these missiles. that is, i will not say that there are no problems from the point of view of the availability of solutions there, but from the point of view, but i'm sure everything is still political

, so far the decision is political well, i don't know what to say about this, i understand why the guys were delayed before, it was really said that there would be an escalation and the americans really keep in touch with moscow, it's not a secret and they would really for them, the whole line is red, it is a weapon of mass destruction. but it seems to me that i just explained that these missiles are now what it is. well, they are just playing for peace , not war, and they still have a political decision to make. well, let's say so congress i to the congress i hope i generally think, frankly, i think that now is the time to appeal directly to the people of the united states and to the congress ladies , we appreciate the position of the president of the united states, joseph biden, this is a huge help, we know his wisdom and confidence in our

common victory, but if he will receive such advice, then i think that all these delays can affect his prospects, that's why the congress and his party members should now actively talk about these issues in principle, and we should not be afraid to talk about them, even if in the white house there is something unpleasant, what are we trying to do there pressure, i don't mean zelensky, or the president's office or the ministry of foreign affairs, no, we, i mean the parliament of ukraine, the ukrainian people , that is, ukrainian lobbyists, the ukrainian diaspora , that is , it must be done through the congress. mr. valery, in our conversation, belarus has started such military exercises near the borders of lithuania and poland, maneuvers are being conducted near the owl of the entire landfill corridor

, there is such a settlement and, in principle, the ministry of defense lukashenka reports that under during the preparation, the experience of the war is actively used, namely, the wide use of drones somewhere for the interaction of tank and motorized rifle units with units of other branches of the prowagner army. nothing is said, as you say, very briefly, if anything can happen as a result of this, will they go to this short war that you mentioned that it is possible to have a short war with nato and then sit down at the negotiating table, or maybe it will be the aksuava corridor and these 100 km for which the wagnerites will fight or try to repel belarus. i think they want to do it they will make provocations and can go far enough, so my prediction is that this threat is really serious

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for smart and caring people, in the evening, most espresso , congratulations, friends, this is a worldview program on the espresso tv channel. my name is vasyl zima. a very important topic for discussion is literature during the war, what should it be like, how should the state invest in the publication of books dedicated to the events that are taking place and not only to those events that are taking place, it is important to invest in ukrainian literature, how do ukrainians today read e-e books a-a what books do ukrainians choose? how important is it to write in general? to support the publishing industry? well, once again , we will discuss all of this with our guests

. dmytra kremenya and taras kreme and the commissioner for the protection of the state language mr. igor taras greetings good day. we will start . well, today we will talk about the all-ukrainian award named after the laureate of the shevchenko prize of ukraine, the outstanding poet and public figure dmytro kreven. well, we will talk about ukrainian literature in general during the war its state the state of the book publishing industry and why it is so important in principle to support literature read literature what literature does ukrainian society need today war needs many things and literature in particular well and in general literature as propaganda to what extent it should be financed by the state why again is it important literature as propaganda literature is possible as well as counter-propaganda why is it important plaste let’s start with you please tell me your assessment according to yours observations

, how many books are published today in ukraine by the publishing industry, because literature is without book publishing, it is impossible to write, you can put a lot on the table, and you can even think of reading and admiring yourself, but it is should be published as audio files as book files as mobile files digital files in any case literature must reach the reader that is why literature today is impossible without a book from the publishing industry, therefore according to your estimates according to your observations how much during the war these one and a half years of war in the book publishing industry lives us , what are the possibilities, what are the resources to reach the reader, that is, what do we have in this field today, please thank you, mr. vasyl, greetings , mr. igor, if we are talking about book publishing of course, this is an element of one of the structures of the modern ukrainian economy. if we are talking about the question of the culture of the spirituality of the state language, then this is a question of national security and our spiritual ecology

, so i would like to start with this, because at the beginning of the war in the 14th year, ukrainian culture had different waves. of course, there were state programs of their support . new institutions were created, for example, the ukrainian cultural fund, the ukrainian institute of books, and indeed , a huge number appeared on the shelves of many ukrainian bookstores of ukrainian authors in translations in various genres of points has of course been updated and the content of the literary awards is very good that they helped to please a sufficient number of ukrainian poets, literary experts, specialists in the native language abroad, and i am happy that the shevchenko committee demonstrated a high level of its work and struggle against the first full-scale invasion challenges applied to all spheres without exception. but of course ukrainian spirituality, the ukrainian word, it has today gained enormous

popularity of the relevant trends and prevails the majority of ukrainian citizens, having switched to the ukrainian language, naturally also require access to a ukrainian book. what is this electronic format? is this a live communication? we did not dream, let's look at the real life of the first winner of the nobel peace prize, oleksandr matviychuk, a talented publicist, and her work at the human rights field deserves the highest praises and events, that is why we talk about these things, we constantly say that during the war culture is extremely important and it is not enough to change hammers and sickles to tridents, here we need to talk about meaningful things, about real funding, support for creative gifted people, the possibility of access to information resistance and the presence of people like ihor pavlyuk

the espresso tv channel's television marathon is one of the manifestations and supports of modern ukrainian culture of support for modern ukrainian authors who know about new books and are waiting for them, and this is really a great manifestation support and help today we are actually talking about the fact that ukrainian culture has a huge reserve of its energy, but it cannot be endless without proper stimulation and provision of its activity , so i am watching with great interest what is happening today in the field of development of ukrainian culture and spirituality. that in the near future, god willing, the shevchenko prize will be awarded, it is very good that in these days we will meet with the winner of the dmytro kremen award, igor pavlyuk, and

therefore, step by step, we are reaching that level which we need, but without state support, without national demand for culture, without a real fight against the influx of russian and belarusian propaganda, against a real fight against russian books , which, unfortunately, continue to be made friends and spread in ukraine in a pirated way, it will be very difficult to protect its informational , cultural and spiritual fund yes, actually, we will start talking now with the representative of modern ukrainian literature, ihor pavlyuk, we will join the conversation , who became a laureate of the all-ukrainian prize named after dmytro kremen, mr. igor, i congratulate you once again before we move on to the prize and the work for which you were awarded . i would like to ask you about how do you write, what is written about during the war, because you know i have colleagues who are writers alone they work very actively, some don't write at all, and this applies not only to uh, novelists, it applies to those people who write, uh, texts for songs , they say, well, now, during the war, there is no

writing, but there is no inspiration, there are some other current problems and such that straight er straight er er the muse the muse worked in the soul and it fell on me, there is no such thing, that's why there are such two moments, the days are working and others say that there is no inspiration , something stuck, so well, i think, did you hear me, do you hear me or not, mr. igor? yes, it just hangs in my head do you also have a little something? well, the main thing is that you hear me. so, igor, what is being written about, what is being written about now, what is the most important thing, and how do you see your role as a writer during the war? why is literature, poetry, prose, well, to a lesser extent possible now? we are talking about journalism and precisely poetry, prose during the war, which one should it be , please? oh well, thank you once again for congratulating me on the award. i have been living in the context of congratulations for three days now, it is nice, but i am already at the age when it is appropriate to take

more responsibility on yourself. and the pleasantness is already transformed like this so to speak, i have been writing all the time since i was 18 years old , when i studied at a military school in st. petersburg and a poet burst into me. level. and we are probably somewhere close to this level. now we are experiencing disasters, not only ukraine, but also the whole world . wise people understand everything this way. thank god that my inner world, which began with my grandmother's prayer, difficult times are turning points. about 10 years ago, i returned to the prayer that i thought well, this is how my grandmother prays, what she knows there is called i have already

defended my doctoral dissertation and i know a lot, but knowledge is a lot of knowledge, a lot of sadness, as you know, and without this grandmother’s prayer, i obviously wouldn’t be communicating here now and without knowing it, i would have lived to such an extent a good prize, i won't be afraid of such a genius, they say this word, because i'm writing a speech right now, which i have to give on august 21. in the village of sukha, in dmytro kremen's homeland. here i am right now in the context of dmytro kremen. here i am, how can i say it? i wanted it's hard to say to get out of it, but you don't need to get out of it, because it's a very good field of poetry close to me, well, that's a separate conversation about it, i can actually talk a lot right now, but if about myself, that is

, a person very close to me whom i call my son our the family of a lieutenant colonel of the armed forces of ukraine, you can understand people who have a real soldier in their family can understand what a tension it is every day when you don't receive an sms in the morning and what thoughts are swarming in you and all your loved ones my grandson is here now in my arms because because actually my grandfather stayed. i tried. by the way , i was not accepted to go to war. in fact, this lieutenant colonel of ours, a relative, laughed a little and said to the good igor, i’ll spend the night because he is a private . you are already a soldier. i wouldn't want such a thing i didn't take it, that is, you don't need to peel potatoes anymore, if you had at least some kind of major , well, they would have found you a job, and i went like that once again , i got a little angry there, which andriy was also a lieutenant colonel in this center, he says yes, my

daughter is teaching you your poems you know us here for fools, you don't have children, do your work, and that's why i resigned myself to be honest , well, i didn't resign, you understand, but i really looked at things wisely in my 56 years and i think this is my mamai, and mamai's dance, this is our spiritual warrior, yes well, i will be spiritually at 56 years old keep those and by the way, we need to keep those people who are not faithful now, who are either depressed or in aggression, a lot of my colleagues are either in deep depression or aggression, but actually adequate people, as i say, who keep themselves spiritually to a minimum , because as there is only well, when a person if you are bad yourself, then it sows a spiritual contagion , let's say it infects the negativity of others, and when you are spiritually balanced, when prayer is always with you and you are spiritually strong, and

literature is a part of the spiritual process, not the main thing, the main thing, the main thing is prayer, but if literature goes to prayer, it calls to prayer, it itself becomes a prayer, and the real one is poetry. that's how it is in here, then there is the meaning of existence and becoming cooperation with the universe. well, some call it the creator, some god, some the universe , some the matrix. very tolerant. by the way, people of all religions really need tolerance towards me. who knows me? so i have a good friend, friends, a good company , in fact, who supported me for this award , which, again, is responsible and i already have today, the thought has already matured in me that i will still give it to the armed forces. i thought that's the only way. clubs have many different needs . but i think that it's time

. well, it's responsible for myself. i've already decided that i'll give this award. besides, it's called pouring a regular glass to friends well, but it's someplace, this one will go to this one, so it would be covered in polyana , as we call the writer's society, in fact, it's so, um, uh, that's how i decided what i want to say, well, in you have already answered my question roman no you will write although i am working with books right now on this well, i am so rich, the genre book is called nomenclature like that well, as they ask me , how do you do it, i say, and how was it with my grandfather, and the horses and cows , the owners had peace and a garden and a house and everything and there is that and i don't have anything else, no hobbies, i have nothing, it's all literature and hobbies, literature and work, literature, and what's more, there's also a passion for letters, everything is literature, that's why i say i don't work, i'm constantly er, i create, i er-

well, because i love literature and everything else for me you know the big one, in your opinion, the most relevant during the war for the consequences of this song is more of a song in the trenches, especially if we divide now poets who are like me sitting , er, let’s call it conventionally old men, as in whose whose sons are fighting or where are their daughters by the way, the most painful when 20-year-old girls are taken here in lviv to be buried, it's for me, well, i can't calm myself with any prayer, so to speak, it's some kind of overturning of my inner world, but it means that there are boys who are fighting for real, but now there is such a pavlo vysybaba writes poems and songs became somewhere such a well-known one can argue about how durable this poetry is and so on , but there are no such phenomena, is there borys humenyuk and is there er-er from my generation serhii pantyuk who

is fighting er-er, that is, they are in uniform, they er-er they fight for real that's how guys are but there's a novel or a drama or even a poem in the trenches if you're really fighting, then you won't write, in the best case, i say you'll write a poem and the best form of a poem is a song, so what became becomes a song like when ivan franko used to say all his poems. and he has, well, he has us here, the champion says that the sports term, in the amount of writing , he would say, i would give all my poems for one that would become a national song, so, after a while, literature is like a grain, you understand. if you have there is a grain on the palm of our hands. we still can't say whether it will produce a spike at all or whether it will die. it also depends on which one. on what soil it will fall and so on . that is, it needs to die and tesla. now i am writing about dmytro kremen, but it is clear that

it has already happened. that is, he is physically well on it's a pity he left early and and and and and for his son, uh , fate gave him a good one, let's say a good one, which somewhere, somewhere, at least i'm sure that