[000:00:00;00] and the best form of a poem is a song. so what became becomes a song, like when ivan franko used to say all his poems. and he has, well, he is here, the champion says that the sports term, in the amount of writing, he i would say to everyone, i would give my poems for one that would become a folk song, yes , after a while, literature is still like a grain , you understand. if you have a grain in the palm of your hand , we still cannot say whether it will produce an ear of corn or not. it depends on who will die , on what soil it will fall, and so on. that is she needs to die and be resurrected. now i am writing about dmytro kremenya. it is clear that it has already happened, that is, he also physically. well, unfortunately, he left early and and and and and for

his son. at least i'm sure that dmytro kremin is pushing somewhere. hmm, if he was lonely, he would have sprouted a spike, so the process takes time, you understand. we can't say that now, as they showed. it's fashionable. what did poor demyan's agitations look like in the 20s, you understand. and what's strong lyrics that, as a rule , can now be sharpened and we can to be named in literature in 50 years, not the ones that i hear now. by the way, the law will die, or like the egyptian pyramid , someone will find it in three thousand years and it will be reproductive. by the way, you know, it became fashionable, as it became even in soviet times there was, i remember reading about many writers, which writers who in soviet times were simply published in millions of copies there were laureates of all possible awards, now there are questions, nobody knows about their names , that's why it is eric maria cutting off the prize well, there, due to pressure, germany, on the other hand, said that his work was not enough, it was not of sufficient level to receive the nobel prize, well, it was about his

first work on the western front without changes well, you see, it remained in literature , taras, we will pause in four minutes but i will have time to ask you, you know, yesterday i was very sadly impressed by the story of how the book by boris akunin, what is it? he is considered such a russian liberal. although he is a georgian by nationality , his history of the russian state is full of georgians. there are new works published . but he pulls this story from the kiev princes. that is, this is already a narrative that many people will read now because this book will be popular. they will buy it. well , they will have such an idea about what somewhere the kiev princes left, then the muscovite kingdom appeared and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on. russia, even in the hands of liberals and the work of liberals , remains as a propaganda machine to print, stamp and popularize its

literature. please tell me to limit russian literature in to ukraine as much as possible and to the extent that it continues to be poisonous for many ukrainians today, ukrainians don't read like that, of course. in any case, they read it in ukrainian, please know the paradox in itself when an ethnic georgian, knowing about 15 years of occupation of his country, rewrites the history of the great russian state like karamzem , it cannot arouse any interest in me and it is unlikely that i will look for this book in the same way like all his other books, they were written under the influence of totalitarian ideology and in the context of the occupation of intellectual and cultural life , so i would like to say a little about other things , in fact, literature in the conditions of war

has been updated in terms of content, including today it was mentioned about those writers who took up arms and, in addition to everything else , we do not forget about those writers who suffered and who did not become these days , viktoria melnyk, who died as a result of rocket fire in the city of kramatorsk itself, is remembered victoria, like you, tsn, as a popular publicist and human rights defender, did a great deal so that the whole world learned about ukraine, about the war in ukraine, about the consequences and tragedies, on the example of every soul of every family, she truly entered world annals of literature, and here you don’t need any recognitions, you don’t need any laurel wreaths, precisely with her sacrifice and her contribution to the approach of the ukrainian victory , she did almost the most. volodymyr vakulenko also

entered the modern ukrainian literature, and it certainly depends on all of us . children of volodymyr, with whom we were once familiar, and they will be considered in the context of updating the content of the school curriculum, you know, at first a full-scale struggle has begun for us for ukrainian literature in the school course ukrainian literature and for foreign literature in the school course foreign literature if in the course of foreign literature 40 % no less, these were russian authors whose reading today is inconvenient and not necessary. and maybe it is even threatening if we talk about crime and punishment , also by dostoevsky himself, on the other hand, not we also forget about the amount of literature that carried us the remnants of the communist logical past, everything that remains in the lists of those texts that are mandatory to

study and recommended for reading . authors that are necessary to read today well, of course, thanks to such prizes and thanks to the sacrifice and the huge contribution of ukrainian literature to the e-e approach of victory we should of course recommend them and even before that, my father was joking that if you want the writer to be cursed, include them in the school curriculum, but at the same time, do not forget that we will tell the school curriculum , we will meet publicists in my place, or answer alexander in the winter, we will meet the works of vasyl potyak, the same one who was nominated for the shevchenko prize, but the interview inside is the highest literary awards have reached an unnecessary and quite humiliating for me apogee, but at the same time the shevchenko prize is actually a list of those authors who should be

studied and i want to believe that other things will be so revised, we do not forget what we will say and a new reading of the ukrainian history of ukraine. this is also among the tasks, because history is truly written by the victors and the mountain will be conquered . therefore, ukraine must know what history it is writing, because it is written not only on the battlefields for the armed forces of ukraine in a huge struggle confrontations reach every meter and every populated place, but it is necessary to talk about it from point i from the point of view of science . professional historians, linguists, linguists, geopoliticians, whose views and positions are quite well heard in the west, and it is very important that they be heard here in ukraine, because after all, it is work based on moods, it is work in the information field, this is the subject and task of education, after all, the future soldiers of ukraine are born at

school desks and during prayer in church , therefore, i share mr. igor's position that grandma's prayer helps, but prayer for victory and orders for success are also very important to us. therefore, mamaya's dance is a question existence is a question of our spiritual culture, it is a tradition that has been passed down since ancient times. in fact, this may be the subject of our next discussions and important pursuits, because ukrainian literature is much more than just a school library - it is our spiritual world, it is our spiritual weapon, it is our mission and our steel, we will return to the conversation literally in a few minutes p igor the panther remains with us we are now living for a short break and then we will continue our discussion there are discounts on mebikar ic tablets 10%

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with us as guests, we have yehor pavlyuk, laureate of the all-ukrainian prize named after dmytro kremen , writer and taras krem, and authorized representative for the protection of the state language, we literally still have 12 minutes to talk, i would like to concentrate on what mr. igor i will ask you talked about the fact that our people are now the vast majority either in depression or in aggression, and it is clear that now literature also works for the consumer, relatively speaking, this is a war going on, we don't know how long it will last, and writers should also give certain messages to people now certain sustenance that is needed now well, of course , it is possible to write or record something for yourself so that it will be published later. then after this after this war, i would like to ask you what sustenance people need now and how are you as a writer you see and evaluate the war itself and what is happening to us, what assessment would you give this process to the artist? well, also, now

i am briefly trying to formulate, first of all , i have not communicated with mr. taras for a long time . and this is very clearly visible in his speech. that is, he is a real statesman. this is not a compliment. i am already at that age when it is necessary to say to a person, as i was told this was a prize. where am i and in order to navigate further, that is, i want to say that we have statesmen and we have poets. well, let's conditionally consider me a good poet. once i defended my phd thesis on the topic of the artist, the power of the press, a historical-typological analysis and proved that it is included in the fidra as a textbook for studying at universities, this is a monograph, so what did i want to say that it has been proven almost like a physical law or

a mathematical law that a society is healthy where everyone fulfills their function er where a writer is a writer a statesman although he writes wonderful poems like taras, let's say, but he a statesman in the first place, and my grandson's teacher in kindergarten. she brings up my grandson well, because if she understands at the same time, even in extreme cases when it is necessary to shoot back like this , by the way , what i already said about girls iryna chornoguz the daughter of my good brother yaroslav is very distinctly like that well, once again, my heart hurts as a father of two daughters, why does it have to be like that well, these are deep things, but i am a writer, you understand, and i deal with the deep history of the emotions of my people. well, that humanity itself in the context as a part of it. that is, i also have some kind of involvement at the world level. i already understood what it is like those awards you

mentioned there, the nobel. unfortunately, there is politics everywhere. but again, it is possible. to speak. and to be more specific, i will actually defend myself as a writer, because you can actually get so confused. i sensed the danger that so, maybe i shoot a little. maybe i shoot a little . maybe i write something else. once upon a time you should mourn the dead the dead, or as already today, taras said to call actually to motivate unmotivated people when i go to my native village , 70% are not motivated to go to war, you understand after talking with me, it is obvious, but there are very delicate things here, and i say read my books, well, me a writer, after all, i'm not even a speaker. now i'm speaking, well, it's not my first priority, read my books

. of course, what i predicted 15 years ago . and i predicted what would happen. i was told , for example, from our diaspora that what you 're saying can't happen. in short, you are stupid now they say that you are a genius, you are a prophet, as you predicted, it will go on, i will say it next, i know what will happen, but i will not say it, so again, in the context of the religious highest, they curse words and harm us , so of course we have to work on this. what we do , but each to his own. togo really believes in me as a person who grew up with my grandmother and grandfather in the volyn village of lesovoy, well , who did i become there? you can

look at it in different ways. vasyl as if you want, they are available on the internet and there you will find in-depth answers to all questions, because kovel is now differentiated, so i don't know if someone will catch something or not, at least maybe he will be interested in my work, that's how i said it, if more specifically, ask me a question then, more specifically, i am now, well, in any case, a writer is needed now well, that is, as you know, both fresh and the word fresh are not what is there. so you will write it down now, and then one day you will show it, so to speak, in retrospect no war now eh blogger we have talkers, we all have some analysts, we all have military experts because of one, but i will prove that a writer is also needed as a daily word that people need, let it be poetry is a short form . well, it’s not the time now, well, if it’s not the time, the time is not, vasyl, look, it really annoys me specifically for me, i

’ll be honest, when i’m pulled away from my desk , that is, i’m one of the writers who likes to mean the process, like who jokes about lieutenant kryzhevsky i i love the process of creation in the second place, the publication of books, and already at the third prize, i am responsibly ready for them, because when a person is not ready for the prize, when i saw him when simonenko gave the prize, i was not ready. i thought that the name of simonenko would destroy me as a poet , i said you can refuse well, he did he said on his patronymic are you a fool or what is taking the bottle, you are already a laureate i realized that no , it didn't kill me the same way, even a flint, well, when the guys have something new, they advised me to submit, because i also doubted whether i was worthy or whether i was on it now well, here that means happy glass this is my responsibility, you understand, that is, it is my nature. if i had to be a soldier, i would have become one, maybe i would have already been a colonel of some kind, because it is unlikely that i have achieved anything greater with my lyrical soul. i studied at

the st. petersburg elite military school. i felt like a poet in the end, which shevchenko. here , the analogies are indirect . and so to speak, episodic, but the fact. but now yesterday's ontology is publishing anthologies of poetry eh , they are eh well, there is, so to speak, a mass of literature among all that there are golden pearls, eh, sods, as they once said. i want to write a serious article about these anthologies, which are published even further and for there are already 10 anthologies going abroad, and we already have 10 anthologies, that is, i think that later some golden anthology will be selected from all the poetry selected during the war and will enter such a conditionally. if i am 100 years old

and literature is written at least for years 100,000, not for one day there or for a week , it will be like recruiting songs, like folklore, we have, you know, some of it will be filtered out and there will be something that no one can say. i ca n't change anything except myself . by the way , mr. taras, i'll give you four more minutes. literature is clear private publishing houses that work for them not only now there is state financial funding, obviously too. in your opinion, at what level should there be support for literature, what is currently being published is now being published and now people can read it to also get something from literature, what is literature supposed to give people now during the war , how effective should it be, please? well, if we are already talking about tv series, then remember the resonance that the film house, the word we already have, gained

for the economic writers in kharkiv, just in the period of literary discussions of 25-28 years. i today i was not far from the kyiv roulette and i was asked the names of bazan and vysslavsky many other writers who became victims of the system but of course only a part was able to enter the gold fund of modern ukrainian literature . to ukrainian scientists but we already had films about the lost generations about people who went abroad about the same sikorsky i was standing today near the house where amosov lived and about him began to be forgotten in ukraine, but i want to say something else, in fact, with this literary award named after dmytro kremen, which we nominated and for the first time supported at such a solid level , we showed an example that even in wartime , awards are needed, and in wartime, we must support writers who are equal to

ukrainian citizens and whether in a trench or at school or somewhere in the subway, but more and more ukrainians began to read books, not all of them maybe in the original maybe someone from gadgets, but reading books is about the fact that people reading books control those who watch tv therefore, not only with serials, but also with books, elitist culture, with such meaningful plots that today, mr. vasyl, were able to organize on your initiative, we are actually talking about what kind of ukraine will be later , but i want to say one more such detail , the village council actually took the initiative before the appearance of this award dovzhansk united territorial community where my father is from, but they offered the largest monetary reward, and i will certainly be happy if pavlyuk actually offers to transfer

to wherever he deems necessary for those battles divisions that are really tempering the approach of our sacred victory today, probably the most important in all the years of the existence of the ukrainian state, but i want to emphasize once again that we need such awards extremely , we must have our own number, we must have an impeccable reputation of the shevchenko prize and everything we do for it from of spirituality and culture this is not about scandals , intrigues, of course, it is about corruption, it is about purity , it is about truth, it is about nobility and conversion to our roots and to our cultural and spiritual component, this is actually what we are we have always differed from the ordinians, we europeans are a civilized nation, therefore, the word is a spiritual weapon, the word is the shot renaissance, the word is a huge galaxy of talented, brilliant ukrainian literature in diplomats, representatives of the ukrainian diaspora, this is all the ukrainian world, which attracts the attention of billions of willing people and captivates other people to fight, therefore, a feat this is a feat of ukraine that the enslaved peoples will undertake. the feat of ukraine is a historical mission of the beginning

. it is wonderful. thank you very much for joining . thank you for this conversation, taras kremenyu. commissioner for the protection of the state language ihor pavlyuk , all- ukrainian laureate of the dmytro ke-kremen award i have the opportunity to show you such an author's clip, but these are my words and lesya kokovska romanchuk music lesya kokovska romanchuk performer of this song honored artist of ukraine volodymyr verminskyi this song they are already listening to the frontline it is called step by step the fruit is a kind of anthem of the ukrainian infantry let's take a look let's listen a little every day we pass these gates of hell step by step step by step steps again get up get up we are tired on the way up get up get up and we are walking on the rise

the autumn wind plays with things step by step step by step crocs we are going from the first to smash paradise with our heads where are the huts, the forest, the gardens, the world without, the sleepy world, the homeless, we are walking on the border, how many of us are there, but there are generals , only you are raising us, something that cannot be named , step by step, step by step, you are walking, rockets are buzzing cursed over the huts, the children are humming and you will also be one of them, the essence of the night of sweet despair, step by step, step by step

, go to where the last edge of your land is . all skinned wolf step by step step by step the mole endures your love is beaten and pure in the salty cat of white frost they will probably

smell the shrouds step by step step by step the mole bakes a photo of time throwing a rifle on his shoulder commas, how much more do we have to go, do you know, generals, only you, the world is sleepless, we are a step, i promised to give this video like this in italy, thank you very much once again to the people who helped make this, well, here are my words and lesya kokovsky romanchuk, music lesya kokovsky romanchuk, also an honored performer artist volodymyr verminsky they took this poem my well and finished

it and made music for the song i know that he is already on the front of the soldiers listening to him and thanking him and i'm just glad that you can join in supporting the fighting spirit in this way first of all, i want to say this, you know, in addition to the fact that the presenter is a journalist, she is also a writer, shevchenkivske of ukrainian writers is also a laureate of awards, i understand how important literature is during the war, today it can be poetry, it can be a novella, short forms, not short forms, but today i saw a book published by my colleague serhii rudenko bij the battle for kyiv must be published, books must be kept and supported to understand that we are here to preserve this history in books for future generations in films. films will remain, books will remain and what literature gives the word of esteemed people, patriotic people, today we need to hear it, we need to read it, i will be very grateful to those people who will invest it, money will join, who will write, because in any case, we will leave this era in books

and these books will then live and grow up for the next generations, therefore, literature during the war is also important, but all together it must work together for the victory of the ukrainian army of the ukrainian people over the eternal enemy, which for us is a brainy one. thank you were with us this was the program world torrent our name is vasyl zima reminds us of the news on euro melnyk is ready to talk about the most important events as of this hour let's watch together i congratulate everyone who came to the rescue the news team tells about the most important events at the moment the number of victims has increased to 80 seven people were killed as a result of the shelling of pokrovsk, rescuers are clearing