[000:00:00;00] politicians that there is an invasion of russia in ukraine and not a civil war or a civil conflict, as russian propaganda told in 22nd year, of course, such questions did not arise, and there was a certain consensus from that moment, starting from february 24, well, or even rather a little later, when they saw that the russian plan did not work in three days, then actually there was this consensus that ukraine should not lose , and it was under this strategy, under this philosophy, that we were supplied with weapons. but it is unlikely that we we can say today that there has been a consensus, actually, regarding what well, i mean among western countries regarding ukraine, it is clear that in our country it is an internal consensus . but if we are talking about western countries, there is no consensus today exactly in what form russia should lose what it should be- how should it look and precisely because there is no such

political consensus and all these slippages with supplies and so on are happening here, it is still necessary to understand that it seems to me that it is not even a question that they are very worried about the fact that russia will lose, i do not i think that exactly in there are problems with this, i think the problem is simply that europe after 1945 , after that, a nightmare during the second world war. well , it actually received, well, there are 8 decades. well, i mean, first of all, western europe, so many countries of europe received very large ones cut off the time for such a life without major wars, without wars at all in the territory of western central europe, which was once an absolutely common thing. and in fact, this very territory was the arena of the first and second world wars, and so on. and they

simply got used to this well-fed, calm, peaceful, comfortable life and they simply do not want to accept the reality that this life is over and that today's war in ukraine has much more meaning and much more consequences than just the conflict between ukraine and russia that in the context of the war it global and the challenges they face. they are also global, and even if today is already over, that time is beginning a completely different time, and depending on how quickly these countries will react , their help and support will really be so fast they want to overcome these threats, these crises, and start a new stage, well, with a good life, well , in fact, it is good for them now, in principle, they don’t have any global problems , except for potential threats, but actually they should understand that if russia continues to be killed, it will continue to pursue an aggressive policy

then it will all end for them, and therefore helping ukraine is in their interest. but again , we have to understand whether we want it or not, but it is a natural process, it does not happen at one moment, and unfortunately, we really have that situation when every this is a grant decision some new types of weapons. it is a very long stage of political maturation at first that they agree to it. ask how it was with those pants and with the same leopards. when at first they said categorically no, this cannot be discussed, but after some time, these tanks began to be installed. i'm sure that everything else will be the same . it's just really unpleasant for us ukrainians , it's very difficult for us to accept this reality that today ukrainians are paying the price with their own blood . and at that time, other people who live in myrny to a completely civilized life, they take this decision for so long. well, but i think that, after all, their in this regard, europe is changing and the west is changing. i think that uh, no matter how

strange it sounds, but ukraine is an example of this boundless heroism of this i don't know how pathetic it sounds, i believe in the fact that, after all, you always have to fight and not obey the bow. ukraine today is to a certain extent a factor in a certain moral regeneration of europe itself . i would really like to believe it is possible sounds very idealistic and pathetic, but i wanted to believe that there are still a lot of processes that have taken place in the same group in the last years of the decade. i consider destructive processes from the point of view of disarming some kind of internal demobilization. of the entire left-wing agenda. it seems to me now, after all , that this situation is not a little bit. so, three reports, and return europe to those values ​​that actually

made europe europe, and it seems to me that this what is also happening in our eyes is that today the same germany yes, which has always been very close to russia, which has made strategic projects with it, such as the same nord stream and the like, today germany has given up russian gas and supplies ukraine with tanks and now it is even ready to deliver long-range missiles, which we really need, these are, of course, tectonic shifts. if someone had said there two years ago that this was possible, i think no one would have believed it, but thanks to the heroism of the ukrainians and simply the boundless criminality and stupidity of muscovites is a reality against this background, we have 15 years since russia started a war with georgia , it happened on august 8, 2008, and today

dmitry medvedev, a putin henchman , says that russia is now at war with nato it was not for nothing that it caused a lot for russia. but as he said then, russia will win and there will be peace on the terms of the russian federation, but in the context of these negotiations that are currently being conducted in the world, saudi arabia , copenhagen, before that, the peace formula is being discussed, that is, according to are yours possible? in general, peace negotiations without the participation of those who cause damage and aggression to another state, and then should we not talk about the formula for peace? and we should talk about the formula for the capitulation of the russian federation to the world, well , capitulation is also the result of military defeat , and we must ensure that this capitulation was is valid, but

we have to understand everything ahead of us that the capitulation of an unceremonious defeat over such a thing does not happen a-a therefore, it is necessary to work a lot more to make this military defeat final for russia and then there will be a capitulation, it is obvious that on some it is impossible to solve this issue in a diplomatic forum, it can only be solved on the battlefield if we are talking about those diplomatic negotiations that are taking place on a well these are not peace talks in the classical sense because you are right that peace talks are when negotiations are not conducted between the warring parties in this case , it is rather such an international forum for consultation, appeasement of certain positions, speaking of certain positions. i believe that this is correct, because actually participation in this event. they represent a very large part of the population of the planet earth, a very large part of, let's say, political economic influence in the world, and you need

to talk to them, no, you don't need to automatically send them to the camp of some indifferent observers or even some of our scumbags we need to communicate with them, we need to talk to them, we need to convey our point of view, because if we do not do it , russia will do it and it will and it does it, and it conveys its position, its propaganda, and therefore its influence, and so on, because that is it is definitely being done positively and it should be done. and this is exactly what our diplomacy should be doing today, including our diplomacy, but we should expect that this will give us some kind of solution to the situation. well , probably not , i think. that is, to really convince, even if we convinced at least one country as a result of this forum and moved to our side, or at least those who today take this indifferent position, at least

a little, still, uh, to our side, although they dragged it by some percentage and still made them a little further from the muscovites . this is clearly a result and it was worth it . well, i feel the same way about it against the background of both the peace talks and our counteroffensive . there was information that more than 40% of the old tanks and battleships from the vakhzhanovo base in buryat, visible from space, remove storage before the invasion of ukraine , about 3,840 units of armored vehicles were stored in this russian warehouse in the open air , journalists calculated that they had 2,271 more part of the equipment was taken away after the announcement of mobilization, but there is also new equipment

, tank 80, which leaves the omsktransmash plant , and despite the sanctions, they resumed the export of electronic-optical devices. russia has probably eliminated the deficit in the production of optics for these tanks, let's eat a small video of ukraine

, well, ukraine has great resources moreover, with former soviet military resources , what according to you, mr. andriy, should the world do in order to strangle this monster, give ukraine the maximum amount of weapons that only perhaps, i think that at this stage - this the most important thing is, of course, it is still far from the maximum and economic sanctions, but still, that is not even the main thing. and the most important thing is the weapon for ukraine, that is, everything is possible, the weapon that can be, all of it must be used, and this is the only one way, the only method. thank you , sir. andrii and thank you for defending us from the russian occupiers. this was andrii illenko , an officer of the svoboda battalion of the fourth brigade of the national guard's operational assignment

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was perceived positively by all parties, meaning the americans , the british, the ukrainian side. the minister of foreign affairs of china spoke with lavrov again from official reports and he said that china and russia should coordinate actions and promote the multipolar world and the democratization of international relations, while top officials and top diplomats taiu said that beijing will maintain an independent and impartial position and plans to actively advocate for peace negotiations and a political solution. lavrov said that moscow agrees with china's position whether it is the political settlement of the ukrainian crisis and vita , the constructive role of china, eh, well, taking into account eh, this verbal verbal dialogue will be an absentee

dialogue between lavrov and vavity, or face-to-face phone, can it be considered that china has brought something new to the peace talks regarding ukraine, or is the late moscow still coordinating their actions and the conclusions were too optimistic what well, the chinese have finally broken away from russia and are already going to the peace talks and articulating their position, well that’s it just for today's proof that official beijing wants to conduct diplomacy . actually speaking, probably from the word diplomacy because they are actually trying not to break ties with the west and with the light because these are economic ties and it is important for issues

if it wasn't there at the same time. we understand very well that it is not worth expecting a breakthrough from china in terms of a radical change of position either, because the point is that, as it seems to me, the issues continue to take a wait-and-see position and until the war has a strategically extremely negative impact on them interests, they will not take any radical cardinal actions along with this they will not manage relations with the events finally and the opportunity to be present at various so you will and try to demonstrate yourself as a serious an international player who takes a responsible approach to international world politics. strictly speaking, alds well, we must also understand that if there is a calculation that now china will radically change its position very quickly and start putting pressure on the kremlin so that russia stops the aggressive war against ukraine . i will say this too.

yes, it is probably premature because it is not yet clear that china is ready to do this, but you can see that they actually maintain a position that gives them the latitude to maneuver, and at a certain time they may still find themselves in the camp of those who will be ready pressure on russia more, but so far no such interest is seen. oleksandr is another person who can influence putin and his position, or at least not about articulating the future of putin, which can await him, this is the president of turkey, rzepta and erdağan, in august, the planned meeting of putin and jordan in turkey in addition to the grain corridor and the grain agreement, it is obvious that reject and pardagan will also talk about the end of the war in ukraine or at least some

change in putin's position on this issue jordan is a person who is probably the only leader of a nato country who communicates with putin, who shakes his hand and who is ready to accept him in your own way. how much can the turks now play and are they playing a role in the finalization of the russian-ukrainian war and how much erdoğan can be convincing for putin that if he withdraws his troops from the territory of ukraine, he will not withdraw and the korean president will not convince putin, then it must be understood that the cells do not choose the troops voluntarily, the position remains the same in russia it does not change that they are ready for any negotiations if new territorial realities are recognized, as russia says, that is, if their occupation and annexation of these territories, e.e., which they now control, are recognized

, and even more so because they included even those in the constitution territories that they de facto do not control now and i think they will not control, so today i see no reason to change that, to point out that someone can influence putin and he will drastically change his position, as of today there are two in general, what are the three scenarios? let's say the first - this is a military victory of ukraine and then the implementation of the plan of action of the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi , what in fact is being collected and discussed at the conference. eh, the number of hvoineprs. he decided there a bunch of articles about how to achieve a truce according to the korean model, according to any and so on , this is what he writes

. such and such a development of events is possible, i.e. the second is an armistice signed by someone, obviously not the president, but that's for sure and actually speaking, the third is simply a continuation of the war as long as it can last, that is, to date, it is not clear that russia will be voluntarily without pressure is ready to withdraw the troops, what pressure is turkey capable of exerting, i don't think that they have such arguments to put pressure on putin so that putin makes a decision to freely deploy the troops well , then, the peace formula articulated by zelenskyi it should be called the formula for the defeat of russia, because in principle, in principle, when we talk about the fact that we can talk about peace only after russia withdraws its troops from the territory of ukraine, this means the defeat of russia , because for putin, the withdrawal of ukrainian e from the ukrainian territory

of the russian troops will mean the craft of a political career and in general the collapse of the world leader . territory and in general the world will not talk to putin because putin is a war criminal - this is a proven fact, the warrant of the international criminal court, that is, he is from for a long time, relations between russia and ukraine, even after the end of the active phase of the war and hostilities, will somehow be able to improve, well, it could be this. it will take a considerable period of time

, provided that someone from russia does not want to repeat, and again, aggression against ukraine, that is relations will always be tense and will be very difficult, even after the withdrawal of troops, even after the cessation of hostilities. i see that it will be quite difficult, in fact, this must be understood, and the second point, which directly concerns what will be discussed with putin, do you understand that on the one hand , no because well, for example, ukraine said we will not talk and there is a decision of the nsdc, on the other hand, we quite often hear from our western partners that the counteroffensive should ensure success and better positions for ukraine in the future at the negotiating table. what is this at the negotiating table, who will be present there because we will understand. it is fine for us to be with, well, if this is a negotiating table, if we follow this format, then under what conditions it can take place

. actually, what are the parameters of this, and so on . and here between us and our western partners are not opinions always coincide, because the west says that even under the conditions when the ukrainian troops will not liberate crimea by military means, but will already be on the way to liberation, some negotiations are possible , format or er in another situation when really russian troops will be defeated, but they will still be present in the same crimea, for example, on the territory of ukraine, and our position is that this is impossible until the complete withdrawal of troops, so i think that there were still countries that , as we know, supported independence and sovereignty, but not all did. the plans for peace or the defeat of russia as we say are presented well , in the meantime kim jong-un is probably preparing to export projectiles

from the democratic people 's republic of korea, these ammunitions are needed by russia in the war, according to the spokesman of the ministry unification of south korea e cube ben sama last week the horse inspected the key weapons factories of his country, in particular those that manufacture projectiles for rocket salvo systems and engines for strategic cruise missiles, we know that serhiy visited north korea just a few weeks ago sheik, minister of defense of the russian federation, and russia, of course, is looking for a source of supply of shells and weapons in general, because they are already there, old soviet tanks are being removed from preservation in buryatia, not according to your opinion

, how likely is it that kim jong-un it is quite likely that the russians will supply their weapons, we should be ready for this because these visits and the intensification of relations between russia and the dprk are not in vain. volumes here. actually speaking about this, it is necessary to say what they can and in what terms to deliver, well, there is indeed an artillery production in korea, in north korea they produce created rocket artillery, i mean these productions as well there really is, and i do not rule out that the country will supply it to russia with or without the help of china, only time will tell because we understand very well the dependence of the dprk on the position of beijing, after all, from the fact that the two countries that support china and russia the most are

north korea and therefore i would not rule out such a possibility. at the same time, it is also absolutely impossible to rule out the possibility that in the end, through the mechanisms of re-export , ukraine will receive 155 mm projectiles produced in south korea, because there are also large production. actually, this could still be such an excuse to reinforce ukraine now with exactly these shells, this would be important, that's why we see that there are two countries today that are most ready to militarily support russia - iran and the dprk. and it's early already supports the dprk, there was various conflicting information about the fact that the aid was coming, other sources said that this aid could have been quite symbolic there. but at the same time, we cannot rule out that it was before and will be. and now this also indicates that in russia

indeed, there are serious problems with the military-industrial complex, on the one hand, they are really suffering, they do not have time, and sanctions are in effect despite the fact that they are looking for mechanisms to circumvent them. but the problems are quite significant, and therefore they turn directly to north korea and iran , which in turn especially such countries as iran somehow miraculously, in a strange way, earlier in order to circumvent sanctions, in particular, managed to accumulate a significant amount of components from which they still produce drones and other types of weapons. well, the dprk, which apparently also has certain resources, i think these resources were established not without the help of china, or that before it was from the soviet union and the help that came and actually speaking , they can really supply weapons to russia , another ally of putin lukashenko conducts military exercises near the borders of lithuania and

poland near the sovac corridor these 100 km that separate the keliningrad region from belarus do not mention the participation of the wagnerites in the exercises, but there was information that a thousand wagnerites will be placed near the ukrainian border. they should imitate subversive activity on the border with the chernihiv region, and this also causes certain reservations, certain fears on the ukrainian side, well, it is absolutely clear that according to you, in a lower situation, belarus and russia are ready for some short provocation or a short war with countries nato in order to then sit down at the negotiating table with the members of the north atlantic alliance and then it will look like the kind of man who, uh, is negotiating with the soviets and not with the ukrainians , why do they need all this, you see that they

do not have a military decision against of ukraine in russia because of what military decision, what i mean, they cannot defeat ukraine in the war, that is, the ukrainian people continue to resist, in the end, the counteroffensive actions of the ukrainian troops in the south continue, there is such a rapid advance, but in the end, the counteroffensive continues and continues and it is premature to do any what are the conclusions and they can't actually win today, that's why they are looking for a solution outside the main theater of military operations in ukraine on other potential ones and here they decided to use this situation that they so or otherwise, they tried to act out what they had in stock earlier, and for which they were preparing

because one way or another , there were several russian-belarusian exercises that took place on the territory of belarus. these are poland and lithuania, that is, the scenarios have been worked out, now they want to use the wagners in order to first , uh, try to uh, uh, split the reaction of nato, well , actually try how it might look , subversive groups of 100-200-300 people will come wagnerites on the territory of poland are committing some kind of sabotage, a terrorist attack, entering into a combat clash with the military and polish law enforcement officers and returning to the territory of belarus, here they are watching how poland will react, how nato will react, whether they will attack the e-e camps of the wagnerites on the territory of belarus or not there will be discussions against this background, and under the pretext of not allowing , let's say, to split over e

. what you are talking about thank you, we have to finish excuse me, mr. oleksandr oleksandr mosienko, head of the center for military and legal studies thank you for participating in the program this was a program, the verdict was conducted by serhiy rudenko i say goodbye to you until the next program, see you russians regularly beat on civilian infrastructure is attacked by peaceful cities, in particular , pokrovsk with double strikes , a coincidence or a change in tactics , we will talk about this in today's edition of bbc ukraine, olga palamaryuk works in the studio bombing, siege, shelling of civilian infrastructure, the russian army is using already tried scorched earth tactics in ukraine, experts say and draw parallels with military operations in syria, last night