[000:00:00;00] well, how can we just throw up our hands? well, anyway, and accept the consequences, whatever they may be, we already had a criminal prosecution and what. only there was no uh, you know, i also want to explain right away, um, i don't think that uh, an artist or artists are responsible for this, well, that is, everyone really reads as he likes, it seems to me that this is a sense of mysticism, and it consists in reading it for a personal and feeling of some kind. even somewhere in so during the period of time when i was watching this performance, hmm, there was a discussion on the topic of humor , is it possible to joke about everything, and since the genre of stand-up performances by stand-up comedians was developing then and is also quite popular now

, they talked about it a lot, and i am from those positions, what to joke about you can talk about anything, because a joke is a word, it's not an action. that's the action. you can already blame or bear some kind of responsibility. but in this case, i have an interesting question: does your band have a framework and some boundaries beyond which you are not ready to cross, that is, something that you are not ready to highlight something sarcastically what you definitely won't touch in your work in your performance ridicule is possible or in hyperbolization did you think about it at all we didn't think about it how to say we didn't make some uh list of things we can't joke about but of course, we as people who live in this society, who also experience all the events , including the dramatic and tragic ones that are happening now, especially well, and before, too of course we will not laugh or joke somehow or

even i don't know how to show events in a funny way which relate to the tragedy, well, people, well, that is, well, it just gets in our heads. well, we would never do such a thing, that is, i don’t know how to laugh. descend to such a level well, i don't know, yes, it's possible, hmm, well, that is, we can do something about the war in terms of some kind of uh-uh, some such absurd-absurdist overturning of the narratives of russian propaganda, for example , we can joke about uh-uh there about the design of pro-russian soldiers about about the dead eh chumbobyks and so on well, that is, we, well, we are just people who are on a certain

side of the front and barricades and mental and ideological and so on. you say such words at the age of 41, i feel a lack of cultural education, you know , and this is so consistent with me, and i wonder how it was possible to bypass such a plate at times. that is, it is so blatantly blatant lack of awareness that it is a shame and after all, it has been several years since you progressed, how much did you fill this gap

? i am now filling the gap regarding the popular music of the soviet period. we do it together with the tiktor publishing house and the band, the language for me is music that i heard in my childhood , i heard something, i didn’t hear anything, then i had a period of rejection of this music when i became a music lover and a snob. a young snob and so on and now i have my period a new acceptance of this music already from the position of some life experience uh some kind of already relaxed in the plan in the plan high low eh trendy not trendy western western i.e. now i perceive it completely differently and i already have a research interest i listen to this music a lot well, i'm studying history. well, we do such projects. by the way, this costume is a dedication to the ukrainian stage in its entirety, from nazariya

yaremchuk through raisa kyrychenko to ivo bobula. - it's about the variety show i want to talk to you, and this also slightly affects my words , which i have already said about the boundless shame, because i heard the song draw a night for me a little over a year ago, and i had a shock, i just sit and you people around me hid this song from me. performance in general, this genre well, of course i watched and the movie mustachioed funk and well, i know who nazariy yaremchuk and sofya rotaru are, i was even a part of it, but it was not, there was no comprehensive awareness of how much this is part of our culture, our

ukrainian song, how much it is of high quality and it is not me learning music but for me it's simple for me it's still a shock even when i hear it i can't believe that it's like a parallel world it so happened that the ukrainian variety show of those years, despite the fact that it was popular , she asked why why, in the end she asked why i only now find out about it, my problem is that i am so inhibited that she had the same problem. i even heard the song chervona ruta to such a completely conscious vika, well, i won't say how many years, but she didn't sound on the radio, but red ruta , she and she, she's nowhere near the same as, for example, the same one, draw for any other options, she's a little more like that

licked like that nothing more but well, but she was revolutionary for her time . professional melody and this it sounded well that is, it was from the ukrainians that this wave began, and from belarus in russia , that is, we were at the forefront of this song . to make this push for some kind of modernization of pop music in the soviet union well, first of all, in ukraine , why did this happen? what exactly did ukraine sound like? i don't know. i don't know why. i think. to say that we are

ukrainians so that we are more musical musical so that there is more there, closer to europe and so on, but still a lot of things. well, a lot of things depended on specific individual people. if they weren't there, then maybe there wouldn't be this wave, that is, a few literally a few great talents, great genes, er, this of music well, there ivasiuk, it's clear, but levko dutkivskyi , for example, who died yesterday, i don't know when it will be released. this program is levko duh dudkivskyi, 80 years old. nazariya yaremchuk and vasyl zinkevich, volodymyr ivasyuk gave his first songs to smerichka dudkivskyi, that is, this person who

created such ensembles in the district center of chernivtsi region who made an explosion on the entire soviet union at that time, that is, without such people , it would not have happened uh, really, uh, the role of uh, personality in history, i deliberately resorted to this cliché. a variety show just like that and just so unique in its sound , the fact that great britain has its own beatles, could the beatles appear in spain, for example.

cool eh in india somewhere well obviously obvious probably not and we immediately seem to think oh well this is something this is something strange eh and i’m interested to think about what this could be due to why yes these are just styles that do not lend themselves to any logical understanding i don't know if this is a certain influence awareness, a certain er level of awareness of some such er style of life well, the same rock and roll had already arisen in great britain as such a protest, they did not have a revolution , only that they had such a jump in music was precisely due to the fact that they tried to show their character, and there on the territory of the russian empire, this fervor, this resource came in at the expense of the october revolution, and so on. there are several factors, first of all, and the singing talent. well , whatever it was no longer but she has

its significance is because, well, why ukrainian funk, why funk, actually , how did it take root in such a non-funk land . it would seem that african-american music is this rhythm, the rhythm in the songs of the ukrainian holy times of the early 70s is a lot of melodies of the western regions of ukraine in particular, bukovyny, where are dudkivskyi and ivasyuk and yaremchuk and rotaru and ivo bobul from, here, here, here is the commonality of all of them, carpathian bukovynia, prykarpatska, in folk songs, including interesting rhythms, it overlapped on this middle-aged, globalized african-american

african-american and western european and so on, this is one of the factors, the second is why it happened. perhaps because there was a certain thaw , that is, political reasons also played a role under the head of the ukrainian company , there was such a noise. those years in the soviet union , that is, ukrainization, this is the rise, well , that is, the promotion of national culture, and here it is not that you are promoting, but there was a relaxation, there was a strong relaxation, and people could do more than before and including more than in the then so-called union republics, that is, there was a short short period when in literature, in music, in the visual arts, people could do more than what they wanted and what they could, it quickly ended with the arrival of shcherbytsky in the early 1970s and in principle

by the middle of the 1970s, everything was screwed up, many artists and heads of the via began to have big problems with the so-called organs, what was they accused of? well, i don't know if it sounded straight , this wording is not bourgeois nationalism but it's too much all-ukrainian , it's too nationalistic , that is, the problems began. which came from the west and this whole wave is an opportunity, i don’t know that i haven’t studied this issue yet, an opportunity to somehow get branded tools, a political weakening, and well, the great talent of the ukrainian people, what do you think

? this is the second wave, the new life of the ukrainian fanku, here is that variety show, how real is it now, well, again, to my ear, it is absolutely consumerist, so to speak, it sounds very cool, high quality, cool, it drives even this manner of performance , there is something in this, this exoticism, yes, this is a unique , simple phenomenon yes, with its pluses and minuses. even because of the pressing, it uh, it uh, appeared, that is , forms appeared that would not have appeared without this pressing , that is, now we can judge it without any ideological framework and take this as me as it is uh with all his special features for those who are watching us now and maybe also discovering this direction for themselves for the first time. what would you advise them to pay attention to, for example , where to start, which bands are you familiar with

? a very interesting band. well, i think it was quite early at the beginning. sofya rotaru . well, she usually performed as part of some ua, then a little later she performed solo in chervona ruta. in my opinion, they played when you sang in via chervona ruta, and nazarii yaremchuk is early the whole of ivasyuk is uh, the record with his voice, where he sings is uh, performed by sofia rotaru well, this is the very beginning of the 70s, the first half. i think that now our audiences have something to do . i um, i have another observation from after the start of a full-scale war, all my feelings were heightened personally, well, that is, if fear is absolutely animal, if sadness , sadness is limitless. yes, but also joy, delight , admiration, too. irrepressible, too, are so comprehensive, and

i am now, being in this wonderful company, opportunities to generally explore and to learn about ukrainian culture, about ukrainian artists , i stand with eyes wide open, ukrainian publishing houses that, even after the full-scale invasion, publish ukrainian classics and do it in a high-quality and cool way, ukrainian theaters, crowded cinema halls , people who go en masse to watch ukrainian films, political readings, come like people, concerts, such and such by a crowd of people so uh actually recently in the philharmonic hall in kyiv i just lived and it's just incredible how do you see this whole process now what 's happening and how do you think we could then to characterize it. well, we have this terrible term there and the thaw, and we understand what caused it, that we are in the prime of life

, this is renaissance, first of all, secondly, this is the process of finding ourselves, understanding who we are, who we are finding one's past in our past is in many ways lost cultural in general well, due to the constant constant repression of ukrainian culture, it moved in such waves when it excites descends is destroyed practically all all its consequences eh and now these are the lacunae, the voids in our cultural memory, they are filled with why people go with text with such joy and with such interests these concerts to us ukrainian franka because they want to know about it i want to know in my past the past of my parents there e-e they want to find themselves their roots in the past b in the past ukrainian culture because, well, we know, you know, there is such an indicator that in pop music, when we, these musicians, want to do something ukrainian, they

turn to ethno, to folklore, because , well, it's good, it's wonderful, and it's wonderful, and as we see, it can be successful there from there of high standards. and i dakhabrah to uh, let's just say that he already comments on everything with ethnic elements, ukrainian folklore, but this is also an indicator of the fact that, apart from folklore , ukrainian youth know nothing about ukrainian culture, well, musical well, what is there? well , there is folklore let's sing something or with a pipe or something to the words of shevchenko, let's do something with ethnic backing vocals and we have a lot of things, but in particular, we are now opening this world of this uh culture of these vocal and instrumental ensembles of ukrainian funk that sounds cool it's cool for young people, including that's why it's such a joyous process before discovering ourselves, er, in the end, er, it's a somewhat

provocative question, but in this rebirth, in this wave of such an uplift , and building something powerful and new, don't you regret that you appear exactly in the image of the band hammerman destroys viruses because i am convinced well, maybe too much sarcasm , too much outrage, i would like to maybe do something more thorough, more serious, academic well, let's say one of the s-, well with of my sides yes let's say we also did more academic things we did we have an opera

eh called then it was called a rosebud at the gogolfest, that is, we already have quite wide interests, there is simply such a thing that, well, about public people, uh, under what most people know about you, it is clear that most people know about us, what is the scandal in ivano-frankivsk socks yes socks and such things i absolutely put up with it i understand that's how it works, well, well, well, let's say that public opinion and so on is normal . those who want to dive a little deeper , they will learn about my work there with ukrainian vintage music, or about some other things, and that's absolutely fine with me. if there were enough time, i would do a lot of things, but much less than i would like. well, this is certainly what i wish for you, so that you would have enough time. do what

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to try in safety everyone's right i greet you my name is irisa hertsun and today is public vinnytsia will talk about the achievements of the air force of ukraine, about the downing of the first daggers, and also about the features of the anti-aircraft system defense of ukraine we will talk about this with the spokesman of the air force of ukraine of the armed forces of ukraine yuriy ignat. i congratulate you, mr. yuriy. how many aerial targets did the air force manage to shoot down since the beginning of the full-scale return, three and a half thousand of them, 350 together, helicopters and e-e planes, also 1,200 maybe and more, while the statistics of cruise missiles are being updated , there were more than 20-24 cruise missiles, it seems that ballistic and aeroballistic missiles - these are the shadows of smaller analogs of the dagger, 13 were already destroyed

on the fourth of may, a dagger was shot down for the first time. what kind of emotions arose in the headquarters at that time? well, no one understood what was happening because no one had previously had the experience of shooting down such missiles in education. at least confirmation was needed. when there was confirmation already at night, i already knew that it happened. accordingly, it did not become to publicize it is clear that we had to find out some things for ourselves to see the reaction of the enemy intelligence worked everyone understood hmm they will look for where the dagger went with the dagger kisses well sure target then we don't always make everything public right here it is necessary to clearly understand if the target was hit. well, it is necessary to address and find who did it so that it is these people, not three, please , so that there is no distortion of information, international russia. currently in service, the basis of our anti-aircraft defense today is anti-aircraft missile systems, because against the train of defense, it is both rtv and for rv, and the aviation does carry out cover destruction, this is all combined into the

anti-aircraft defense system of the state. that is, we ppu used to call the anti-aircraft missile forces , which are actually the basis of air defense, which beat the enemy, well, all the results, all the gains that are today, to a greater extent, are being adjusted by the anti-aircraft missile forces, without diminishing the role and place of small p or other forces air defense and so on, if it is all a single organism that works harmoniously, that is, the anti-aircraft missile forces today had the m1 s300 and the s125 complexes that are part of the air force are still the basis. yes, but we understand that there is already a hot war going on, how many thousands of rockets have already been spent, spare parts are also becoming a problem, we have to look for them all over the world, it is possible that pavlo remains of weapons in our partners help us, in particular , with the outdated weapons that we use today as the basis of our anti-aircraft defense . so, by the time they arrived , they were on duty and had already started combat work, when

the enemy began to attack our critical infrastructure, our power plants , but then they began to work on the sanctions of aylis, well there were only very few of them, a few divisions that could cover somewhere in kyiv , or somewhere in another direction, or are there priorities in terms of where air defense is placed, air defense is a global thing, decisions on the placement of certain systems are made there not only by the military leadership of the air force higher, yes, the commander and the authorities of the city administration, but we also recommend . of course, we also determine the priority, but the top management of the state also understands that. there are relevant meetings, they are held and decisions are made the question is how we will and where exactly to protect this or that city, this or that object in accordance with the intelligence data, in accordance with the possibility of this or that object, where there are more hits, there will be military leadership and there will be more

defense systems where there are more vulnerable objects and more objects of strategic importance, is it technically possible to close the ukrainian sky and what instrument system will be typical for ukraine , will it be like an iron dome in israel or do we have other means, the situation is completely different from the real one . they are fired with ballistics, they defend themselves from, usually from ordinary rsd projectile systems, filling here, even the systems themselves, sometimes homemade installations, even at our front , they use several pipes, weld a guided missile there, launch it, and that's it. well , sometimes they have more power, israel itself is hundreds of times more expensive missiles they spend on protection against those reactive salvo systems. it won't work like that in our country, we need to do it. and the crazy air defense system is different from various systems with a short radius of action, which actually starting with small arms, mobile fire groups have machine guns, which are already equipped with various military gadgets and thermal imaging equipment, optical equipment, laser sights, and so on, they already have to work

on more such targets, smaller ones, small ones, low -speed ones, such as kamikaze drones, in particular, and further on, small radio-controlled drones there are such as a wasp, an analogue of a wasp is a rattlesnake, a french german cheetah, it is like our stilt, like the soviet stilt , that is, a machine gun, which in automatic mode can also destroy a target using radar and to know further it is already moving to larger systems of such nasambs-aires and, accordingly, petriv and himself to those in which the mixed format will be, so we already have so much diverse air defense that in no country in the world there is such an understanding of systems mixed with soviet equipment, french , german, norwegian, etc. the american and so on, you need an airplane to protect how mobile fire groups work, if fighters will fly in those areas, the depot is smaller, yes, the large type will do the job of air defense, the airplane is part of the anti-aircraft

defense, the only problem is that the mig-29 and su-27 as part of air defense against modern weapons such as shahit and cruise missiles of the caliber or kha1 work little effectively, they were created when there were no shah cruise missiles . it will be able to do what is the effectiveness of the ukrainian anti-aircraft defense today, we can give the statistics of cruise missiles that are available to be shot down by our means here 70%. 75% 80%. this is a general indicator, the same, in the end , we attribute the indicator to the kamikaze drones sometimes it is possible to knock down all 100 percent, and sometimes these four drones can fly away, but the enemy has data, unfortunately, the intelligence uses all means in order to possess information and take an unexpected step and strike, the same applies to the iskanderka, a cruise missile and a scandalka, there is a lift

the installation is hidden closer to the front line, it can defend itself somewhere , it is camouflaged, no one knows about it, it rises at night, the actual fifth strikes at a very short distance, well, it is very short , it can be 100 km, it is nothing for him very little and to react and turn on the alarm, well, that is, there are local places who own it, well, there is very little time and sometimes the alarm sounds in unison with the arrival of what is the most difficult thing to shoot down , today's analogue is a dagger, the most difficult thing to shoot down is because there are fewer means. but as we can see, every target , every target is difficult each target requires means of both detection and destruction , they must understand that it all comes to us , but well, i would like it sooner. at the end of july , russia attacked odesa with onyx missiles of a different type, why are they difficult to shoot down and is it difficult fly low over the water when entering these