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[000:00:00;00] and then start writing a book, is it right? i understand that this professional deformation is a journalist, and that was the question that you had to decide first, or were you talking about something else when you were talking about the tractor in the case of the tractor in part this is partly also what you know. the original idea itself appeared just somewhere in the spring of 2022, and then i was just, well, that is, i did not plan to write something again about the war immediately after the start of a full-scale invasion, because it seemed to me that i was not even from a journalistic point of view this is not from the point of view of this deformation, more from a personal point of view that i won’t pull it out just like that right away, uh, that i need to come to my senses a little , because at that time, only the kyiv region was occupied.
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i won't write in this way. you know, it seems to me that again, for children, for books for children about the war. the main thing is that, despite everything that is written there, at the end there is always hope, that is, the final point should be, uh, some scene that gives hope for the future light and it seemed to me then that i i am not yet in a position to write it so that the end point is precisely this hope, and i have been putting it off for quite a long time. i already had an idea , but i still put off work on the manuscript for a long time. i have a friend, when i told him about this idea, i said then until only about the tractor, which is just a cool image , which is great for a children's fairy tale, that it is a tractor pulling a russian tank, after some time he sent me such a children's poem, and where it was about a tractor pulling another tractor's tank, what else is there somehow it helps, and there is a poem about 10 tractor drivers, and i remembered it then. well , i remembered it, saved my files there, and
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, in fact, this book began with this poem. for this book, we later reedited it together, but in fact, i started writing somewhere at the end of summer, you know. well, you know, when i sat down to read the manuscript, i already had certain characters thought out. i started writing. besides, i i just didn't feel, you know, maybe some kind of inner readiness and strength to tell a story this is exactly how it should be done and that is why it turned out that way i know that you are joining, you are the first member of mr. and it is also an opportunity to participate in various panels , various events, in particular, various literary festivals, such as a festival in new york that was organized by victoria melina in her time in ukrainian new york and in donetsk region in new york in donetsk region where are the children who live there with whom do these authors speak and so on i am
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curious according to your assessment, how much our ukrainian children's literature has books for these children because, you know, it seems to me that there may be a certain gap with the reality that these children live in. these people are the reality in which people live there too. with all due respect, there is ivano-frankivsk lviv uzhgorod is different in everyone 's philosophies, what do you think about it? it seems to me that he knows that such a gap has existed for many years. well, after the 14th year, this is a fact , because i even remember when i wrote apricots. i wanted this topic there too highlight because there are main characters who evacuate with the mouth area to a big city in the rear and meet there because of this misunderstanding of their experience and these phrases well, why are you still talking about the war? it’s good for you , you’re safe here. why do you keep talking about it and it’s just something that i saw myself too? very often in the same one in kyiv. in 15-16 years there was this
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big, very gaping experience. it seems to me that now there is still much less and in literature also much less, in particular because we said at the beginning that the last of these books is 2-3 years already very much turns out for very there are books of different age groups, for example, about the same immigrants , e.g. tatiana of the strizhev line of the terminator, the main theme is just right there. this is a boy who comes from the east to kyiv with his parents because he is running away from the war, after all, there is enough of this in literature. what do you say about the children from new york, or in principle it is not even about new york, about any pro-front town, these people still have a very, very different experience from ours because they have lived in it for 14 years and we only i learned a little more about it, like all these flights of sirens and so on , we still have different experiences. but it seems to me that we are now getting closer despite everything, and this is the case
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with children. i think that the main issue is not even some such materials things are our way of literature and more about the possibilities of theirs. do you know such a wider involvement, for example, in the life of the communities to which they were evacuated from their towns, in the case of someone it is still an evacuation from counter-front areas because in the same new york there are still children, well that is, we have all heard all the stories about avdiivka or bakhmut, how they simply drive their children there due to malfunctions and evacuate them from there. that is, it is also a matter of helping them, you know, not giving them so much. some kind of literature, but besides literature, we need something else, we need to help them adapt, we need to do it again you have to talk to them a lot because if i understood one thing, i live in kyiv at home and this is my city, and they left their hometown and they don't know for the first time either when they will return there or in what condition it will be
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the city when she will return there with an acquaintance, just new york. and i just recently saw these children in lviv or wrote a report about them, and just when i wrote on facebook , we will find one of the girls and we agreed to meet, i voted the correspondence up there and i saw our messages there in a few weeks, you will help the invasion itself. i remember one time when new york was heavily bombarded and i wrote to lera in the morning. how is everything good ? objectives explosions just like that explosions and now when you know when so much time has passed so many different shellings of russia were in different cities i opened this message like that and i think and now i understand what she meant that is this and this is the same this well if literature she it is also not possible to fix, you know, it is not possible to do everything, it is still necessary to somehow also involve the lives of these teenage children and definitely definitely this is a very complex
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issue . half a year or so and he finally started reading books, well, he became interested in all of them. no, don't wait - don't read, but listen to the story itself, because before that there were only pictures, well , this is a normal logical development of events, and i , too, reading with him a lot i often catch myself thinking that these are the moments that he will definitely remember. these are the stories that he will definitely remember and i would really like to. well , first of all, i do it as a ritual that helps him switch and put him to sleep secondly, this is some kind of my investment in him, this is this face, a safe place, where does he go then she will be able to come back from difficult and stressful life situations. there is some kind of inspiration, strength, and uh, you understand that. which
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author does not pressure you, is not afraid of responsibility, that children grow up on your books, on your stories. are they now trying to scare you, or did you not think, or did you at all you don't think about it, it's a difficult question, i don't think about it when exactly in the process of writing, in fact, i was in the process of writing, so i think about a specific story more and about how to formulate and present this story right now that is, when you write a book, do you think about a specific target audience for this book? it is very important for children's books, because you often know that the target audience, especially for debutantes, is a little mixed. you must always clearly understand that these are preschoolers. er, younger benefits or for older teenagers and so on, that is, i think about the audience rather in this way and instead it is what you are talking about. i probably think about it more at all kinds of meetings with
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children, presentations and so on because then there are very, very, very many readings of some story, a lot of different perceptions, uh, i didn't have such a thing that during these meetings i suddenly realized with horror, in a cold sweat, that i had written something very wrong fortunately, this did not happen, in particular because i myself edit these manuscripts very, very much , then the publishing house also has a lot of them. they are proofread and work well until the moment when the book is published . wrote it as best as she could on this moment based on the experience from the material that i had from some of my opportunities and so on instead. when you look directly at some abstract audience of children 9-13 years old and you see specific children , a specific class of this age who is sitting across from you and you have
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somehow establish this contact with them, then i already think. at that time, i was just very responsible about what i say, especially based on the fact that these children themselves talk about themselves. well, we, for example. for example , i had one of the books that several came out years ago, there is also a lunar eclipse about incomplete families. that is, there are two heroes of the same family, so classic, that is, he has a younger brother, like his mother and father, and the other heroine lives with her grandfather because her parents divorced, and there are many such vicissitudes, as if in a child's perception uh, and actually, when you talk about this book with specific children , of course there are very often many children who have similar stories in life who do not live with both parents very often now. unfortunately, someone , for example, one of the parents died or actually one of the parents is currently at war and the child is now only with his mother or only with his father, er , when you are already talking about this specific story with specific children, then of course
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you have to treat it very responsibly and it is already more difficult, i would say, than just sitting to yourself at home with a cup of coffee with a cup of coffee and write this story and you have been writing books for 11 years s- i guess eh well if the first book came out 16 count and when you were 16 eh eh 11 years old and i remember once also during our conversation with you i formulated a very simple question: would you like to switch to adult literature now? of course i wouldn't ask that because i already understand how responsible it is to write children 's books. practically from experience . you write children's literature, children's books, i'm sure, even if you know, one day i'll start writing directly for adults and i'm definitely not going to leave some literature, i'm thinking so simply right now
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, because i don't care, to be honest, children's literature is internally more interesting and i somehow have more i recently had the experience of writing my first text for adults, it was a story, er , it was quite whimsical, that is, i agreed at first . that is, this is a story that i was asked to write for an anthology of modern prose. at first i was like, then i thought i'm going to write it for adults, then i'll have a child. well, i'll try, if it doesn't work out , i'll tell you honestly, and in the end i wrote it, and it seems to be already printed there, so i think everything's okay. but in connection with this, the stories for several times they wrote because it was small prose, i was asked several times whether i would write a large prose for adults, and i honestly say that so far , definitely not, because i have an idea for children's books, but not for adults, that is, there are ideas, of course, they do not arise. they are suitable
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especially for children's literature, and i, for example, am grateful. literature is most attractive because it is often more allegorical than adult literature, that is, in children's literature , you actually have all the same topics that i have in adults, but you need more, i think more skills and more such sensitivity often in order to depict them because you know on the surface these stories may seem simpler, but in order to make the story simple to this perception, you really need to go deep into it and reach the eyes of the judge of history itself. well that is, how to tell this in simple words, and this requires actually and often er such allegories of some kind of, you know , non-obvious and searches for some such non-obvious symbolism so that again it should be simple but someone at the same time some kind of non-standard so that the child not only understands a certain story, but that they are also interested in it. it seems to me that
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children's literature is the most attractive for such an allegorical quality. physical education for development yes olya, i thank you very much for this conversation. i thank you for the tractor and i will still come to you with a photo and a photo with an autograph 100%. thank you, god , that as a crow that brings victory closer, our purpose is to be better every day, we prove it in practice, our work is inferior to the enemy, to protect our people, our duty, our operations change the course of the war where we work
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, the enemy has no chance of success, we are the whole village of ukraine, glory to the special operations forces of the armed forces of ukraine, our kherson region was completely destroyed by the russian invaders, you are the regions of ukraine unite to help and restore victims of free communities 15 oblasts have already supported kherson oblast and will rebuild 26 settlements of the region side by side we will rebuild kherson oblast side by side
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we will rebuild every affected community in our country, advice on how to communicate with someone who is in the army . in no case do not find out about the relationship remotely, end the conversation on a positive note, keep calm and support each other at once, the association is the first, for sure, a currant that grows, two cars on the third were almost disassembled they dump it on video somewhere in the basements from the bunkers from the trenches as he listens to the song to wait for all the russian music from our charts and trends
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to just live yaroslava you are the performer who can share his experience how to become popular in a year his creative career like me how did they start in february, shortly before the full-scale war, and you started with covers, but a certain reaction to the war was the subpoena, when it came in the first week, i didn't know what to do with it further , how to continue all this, there was no time there on the shoulders, they were trying for some kind of depression to do something, to help with something, well, for the first few days, we generally went there, put sand in bags, somewhere there was some boiling water, and so on, the windows were covered with tape with the word well, in short , there was no
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crying at that time, and so on. music, some kind of track, write something, do something, they got a summons. so they made a song. it's as simple as possible to listen to you. why is your main feature ? what makes you stand out among others? i am the way i am and it's possible in simplicity, thanks to this machine, i was captured by what happens, but only love. 24 as caught and where did the war catch you in kyiv, you were with the boys in the hostel and were going home already thinking about how to choose what to do and then after the summons every track of yours, what every click of yours , what you put out - teach on youtube, it is gaining crazy momentum, many of them go hand in hand
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you had such success in a year during the war. if i blessed you so briefly. despite the huge background behind me, the column, all the concerts , for a long time at home, when everyone is there, friends are walking somewhere, resting, and you are sitting at home and trying to achieve something, somehow develop sing sing sing every day sing sing as much as possible shit develop listen i think it all happened in a year, but the songs yes, and there was no such thing as it was really great i put it in in the morning and it flew away we worked for this and work every day to smoke everyone as much as possible concerts and that somehow it was well, what happened. i don’t consider it my own and i don’t want to talk there with such students. there are words. i just do what i like on my conscience somehow to support people and that’s why i take the guitar, i probably sit down and write most of the time i'm trying somehow somehow, to come up with something for myself, somehow to find something for me well, i am looking for different metaphors , rhymes, something interesting, somehow, yes, and your songs have
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your personal stories , yes, all the time, i don’t know how to write songs there, well, like, not about her, not about something it's just where you are from the sky, i always try to write about something in order to carry something when my soul hurts. that's why your soul hurts now, it's because of everything that's happening in ukraine, because of these events. i think every ukrainian has it and everyone wants somehow to help and i think everyone should help in some way
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to support who now listens to ukrainian music and in your opinion, how much consciousness has changed among our ukrainians, unfortunately, as far as i can see , it has not changed enough, because i see a lot of people who listen to russian music, and there is still a lot of russian music still in the charts and trends . it is probably not enough, but nothing, we are here to do everything, to change , to make ukrainian music as good as possible. and how did the war change you? before the full-scale invasion , you were listening to russian content. i'm not the kind of music lover who listens only to russian music and that's all. i listen to as many different types of music as possible , from latin american to european and from french rap to ukrainian music. if there's a cool song, i don't know turkish . a strange genre. okay, if he also needed letters, what exactly are these songs , well, in short, after that, in february, they made such a principle that they didn’t exist, i didn’t listen to his russian music anywhere, i don’t even type
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if there are some memories with some songs or something, you simply categorically say no and everything or it is so timely that you don’t want it and because you are coming from that culture and as much as possible into another, reformatted into ukrainian, which i advise everyone according to your opinion as a musician, ukrainian music needs to be made so that after the war, after the victory of ours, so that, um, ukrainian content remains at its peak to make good music. well, a lot depends on people, on their preferences, it is clear that even if all musicians will make good music, if people will vote the russians said something else, there was no such thing. well, we try to make good ukrainian music and i hope that it will work out here and the musicians support each other . speaking of you, you have such support. kalush has a reliable support. if you noticed, we spread one one very many guys and this is not because of any agreements
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, but simply so that we support them. they support us typically just to support each other and somehow our audience saw their us there and that is why we support each other everywhere this year you have a lot many duets were born with other artists, tell me about this collaboration, who suggests to whom how it all happens , let's do it, but it happens differently, it happens that i was offered a shorter entrance , but it's very interesting and i'm super earn with emiliat if you like the lesko track and -a-a meeting for a drier sweet police who don't celebrate their own i wish it was summer i was sitting at home and i really wanted to create a song that would be right under the summer i think we need to do something like that what is really super summer what and literally for
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minute 20, the river was somehow born, uh, that's how it happens. well, it just happened that way, and i think we should offer this song to the ruts . i really felt that it would make very lyrical songs. and we'll do something unusual with it, and we'll do it for the sake of dancing to the song . they lost it, it was completely yours. did the two of you write it all over the cutlet, the office together, mamarikka, how is this duet with you, you also offered it? yes, you offered a demo, even several demos, and she chose exactly this song, the stork, and then together they completed a very, very big role there, everyone songs and what are your ambitious goals as musicians , first of all, it is to expel all russian music from our charts and trends, and this is really number one, and i
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put it somewhere in the winter, and at that time there were a lot of songs in the trends and then we were practicing a song waiting at home along the river and i think at six it turns out somehow we can change it and now there are much fewer songs by russian artists and i am really glad that it is so even if there are like a couple of my dogs who were swimming and not mine and got sick and there is no need i am glad that it is so the main thing is that we develop and move in the right direction in ukraine . yes, but do you have such a goal? to go beyond the borders of ukraine so that you will be known in the world. to predict how it will be, but we are setting specific goals. now
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you will tour ukraine with your solo concert in some cities . the armed forces of ukraine seems to have nothing to do with anyone, and just like that, everyone has to do as much as we have the opportunity to collect funds , do we do this or part of the tickets where there is an opportunity. we try to give e-e . we do various auctions. two cars on the third one were almost finished and now we will send the guys various military ammunition there , the players are talking about that. of course, we don't have a lot of words, but they often drop a video somewhere in the speedwells from the bunkers from the trenches listening to the song and saying thank you guy well, what can i say to him, i'm really happy and what's up, well done, he was flying spiritually
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masha is the newest song that appeared on youtube she is very motivational get up where do you get such and such a lighter where do you get or not to recharge cry where to be disappointed i try to somehow recharge people so that they directly give them already well, i don't know what kind of emotion for life because kamon youth some all moments no one will return them to us after 30 years, we will remember this if i think that even at such a time of war i did nothing and just sat at home and depressed there, i will be very sorry, so i charge them to all my guys and tell my brother to move something after it is called, get up, i will be grateful to everyone for your support, let me give you comments, your mission as a musician and as a simple ukrainian
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is to support ukrainian music in some way to develop it, to support it, they said to somehow help with this hmm, i stopped in your country for some kind of military service by car and on various such things and their just support people give them motivation to just live she is waiting at home chevrons that bring victory closer you smell courage honor power and courage in your hands future
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victory you must act today to have tomorrow you must be ready to accept the challenge of fate you must be strong so as not to break at a decisive moment, you must be able to protect yourself and your loved ones now you are working hard because you believe in peace for the future for the sake of love for the sake of peace for the sake of victory
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at the beginning of the war every day we find strength step by step step by step we will return ours and we will definitely have enough strength to achieve victory . thanks to the defense forces of ukraine, we are moving forward. 101 fruit dumplings of ukraine were called by the same route

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