[000:00:00;00] the fact that the bundestag of germany has almost already decided to provide ukraine with taurus long-range missiles, but for now it is delaying this, i understand, waiting for the decision of the united states of america to provide such long-range missiles, why, according to you, is it still quite cautious about providing these long-range weapons that fly for 300,500 km, they are afraid that the ukrainians will use it on the territory of the russian federation, or because then it is the final the counteroffensive that has begun will be completely clear well, let's talk about

the west as they say and the west since we are we get missiles we get from the british we get from the french uh the germans will behave in the issue of the supply of missiles uh the same way they behaved in the issue of the supply of tanks i remember very well how they worked on this in the beginning it was called the tank consortium then tankova was created coalition, the germans have their own strategic culture, they want to take all the next steps in unison with the americans, and this does not mean that it will be the provision of attacks, there may be others, but nevertheless, there will be stations really the mood is gradually changing, i won’t say that

every member of the bundestag is now enthusiastically supporting it, but nevertheless , it’s a general abduction. in the end, the decision is made a fairy tale if even everyone in the contest will say and unfortunately everyone will not say we have leftists yes and rightists there is an alternative for germany that was created er for er of course from the combination of the kremlin and we know it and now there is that's why we we need a solution and this solution. as i understand it, it will be from above. unison will be adopted according to the americans. as for the reasons , why is it so complicated? it’s all an idea . why is it so slow? why is it taking so long and it’s not what we have

and want to receive? this is, of course, the fear of escalation and the desire to share responsibility . for all the key e-e of the country yes, of course, we have a desire to speak honestly about it too e-e accept the trolley bus of this war controlled and in the context of the situation in the context of the supply of new oh and in some sense although the war cannot be predicted but nevertheless, understanding what will happen, biden's national security advisor has repeatedly said that the americans are not afraid of such a regime here. however , they must take into account the possibility of escalation on his part, and they, like our other allies, do not want

to drive putin and the russian regime away at all dead end well, of course, everyone has their own very specific understanding of what a dead end is, because these are actually the main fundamental reasons why we worry so much about the fact that not everything we need is supplied for a long time. and here i am with yours colleagues and german and french, in recent days i discussed the issue of the commitments of the seven and the countries that are added to these commitments, how we will continue to discuss them, and it is very important that we receive from all commitments not what we are ready to give and when we are ready to give and that

what do we need and when do we need it, otherwise these obligations will be significantly weakened , this is one of the key issues that concerns the security model and our ukraine. with it is clear to russia and the border region that after the russian federation issued an ultimatum regarding the passage of civilian vessels to ukrainian ports, ukraine demonstrated that it can use naval drones to reach novorossiysk and the black sea waters of novorossiysk and attack amphibious ships and ferries carrying fuel and lubricants . materials for the crimean peninsula for the russian occupiers in the studio in skabiev, the propagandists quite lively discussed the attack on the russian ships

, let's see a fragment of the attack on our logistic infrastructure would be damned from the face of the earth, all of odessa, all of odesa ports, all of ukraine, and we again stand with arms crossed and say well, how is it, how is it that the new theater agreed after the attacks , the insurance companies did not want to cooperate with us, but simply after this attack on the krymsky bridge, we destroyed almost the entire infrastructure, including production enterprises in odessa, we struck the port when, after withdrawing from the grain deal, we tried again will resume without our participation, they already destroyed the substation, destroyed, destroyed, under-destroyed, they repaired it because of the summer. now, roughly the same thing is happening with the ports. well , they started to destroy.

what do they want, that is, the impression is that ukraine is the aggressor and poor russia is defending itself. let's finish them off . let's destroy odesa. let's destroy the port facilities of the south of ukraine. to the current situation, is nato's response sufficient? i'm not talking about the united nations, because in the black sea there are at least three countries that are members of the north atlantic alliance, and in principle they probably have enough, well, turkey has enough opportunities to protect these grains corridors and prevent russia from being the host . and simply put, pirates in the black sea are not enough, but let's explain everything here . i don't expect any reaction from him. i generally

consider the un patent structure to be no which is useful for the cause of protecting peace and value and is not capable of when it will be reloaded, it is difficult to say, but it is obvious that in today 's form it is more of a simulacrum . and as for our allies, i would like to to see a much more powerful reaction from them, well, look, apart from the statements for today , we have received almost nothing and the desire to continue negotiations, it is possible to agree on some russian conditions, and these russian conditions , the sanctions regime, i do not like the grain of speech at all because we have to ask something in russia. and i, for example, don't want us to ask something, and that's why and drones

, they, in my opinion, created a completely different reality in the black sea, because russia used to tell everyone that they control the black sea, and nato ships are present, but because no less everything now and these attacks and er extreme attacks and attacks before that they showed that russia no longer controls the black sea for russia, this is a fundamental blow not only to military ambitions but also to geopolitical ambitions and that is why russia is so brutal attacks our e-e port infrastructure in order to prevent show that we can do something without russia with our allies to create

additional difficulties for us, but the main thing is to show that they control the black sea and that's what these strikes in the regions showed no they don't control and that's clear to everyone with you, we just talked about the west separately and not the west, not the measures, everyone also very carefully follows what russia is doing and they understand the black sea, it is definitely not russian anymore, it is unfortunately not ours, but nevertheless we have levers and we have serious trump cards in the black sea so that the last story she came into her own very , very well and i can see it and not only in the back world it is a beautiful story and will it somehow affect the entrance of erdogan's negotiations with putin, which are scheduled for the end of august, because for

erdogan the existence of the grain agreement is also a certain argument. on the world stage , argan is now trying to show that he can influence and that he influences putin , including because he is almost the only leader of nato member countries who shakes putin's hand and accepts him in general, he conducts any negotiations with him, and the way erdogan actually acted with the commanders of the azov regiment, giving ukraine despite the negative reaction in moscow, shows that erdogan can take some such steps, which, in principle, he does because he considers it necessary not because putin wants it, jordan can put pressure on putin, but he will try to reach a compromise for putin

, now it is very, very important that he was able to show his strong side, so to speak, especially after hearing the beauty for putin to show that he is a weakling this will also diverge inside russia and outside of russia, and therefore to continue the grain agreement on the same terms. this is definitely not an option for putin, so i do not rule out and it is considered quite probable that russia will succeed in agreeing on domination, or more precisely , i do not want to say about restarting the grain agreement calling her deals but it's very difficult for the path to agree to just the status quo for him it will mean uh that

he's a weakling he can't practice what he wants and i think he won't go for that literally second moment uh here there is of course there is a certain threat that turkey, which is important to us, but also part of the west will put pressure on us for the sake of certain compromises, because the export of grain is important for world stability , for world food security, for the prices of e-e grain for inflation of many other functions , and i do not rule out that the west er will be ready to discuss certain commissions and it is very important for us that these compromises

, if they go as a precedent for easing sanctions in the future, he will feel that the bombing of our port infrastructure brings him results inside the country and abroad, because this cannot be allowed in any way. well, we must remind our tv viewers that putin demands that the agricultural bank be renewed in the swift system and given the opportunity to pump ammonia through the pipeline to togliatti odesa, which, among other things, passes through the kharkiv region, including the territory of ukraine, so that it can be used and sold. what is putin doing, it does not come to mind because he is attacking the entire infrastructure of ukraine

, but he says please give me so that we can deliver our ammonia to odessa, and then from odessa we will deliver it by ship. in my opinion, the americans consume russian ammonia products there the most uh, as far as i remember. well, to america or there to somewhere in the mediterranean sea . where are they going and ammonia, and this also raises a lot of questions that raises a lot of questions what is happening now in on the belarusian-polish and belarusian-lithuanian borders or the belarusians started conducting military exercises near the slovak corridor and this is what they are officially talking about. and now the poles are talking about the fact that they plan to deploy up to 10,000 troops on the border with belarus, let's hear what polish defense minister mariusz said there will be about 10,000 soldiers in blaszczak, of which 4,000 will be directly involved in operations to

support the border guard and 6,000 will be in rosetta, soldiers will improve their skills in garrisons recreated in the eastern part of our country. what do you think, mr. pavlo? does poland think that the belarusians can follow the same path they took on the eve of the war, that is , migrants will break through the belarusian-polish border and create instability on the polish border? and belarus can organize a small blitzkrieg in the suval corridor and thus bring the representatives of the north atlantic alliance to the table for negotiations on the one hand, on the one hand, putin, on the other hand

they say a small conflict well, let's sit down and agree on something, i don't rule anything out, and i believe that putin, er, in the kremlin , they are calculating and calculating all possible options, whether they can organize a war with those who are now on the territory of belarus, it looks doubtful, but on a large scale , they can provoke as you know, nato is strong with its concept of collective defense and the fifth article, which is important for nato and important for us in the future, but you see what i really emphasize in the fifth article no one tested and i want to be understood correctly when we had september 11, it was of course an attack on nato countries when the fifth article was involved, but still, in the context of military actions and military

provocations, no one i tested it and it will be very important for nato to respond properly. i am sure that in the kremlin they are trying to do this not as a classic war, because they will understand that they are getting punched in the teeth, not only in the teeth, but as a provocation, and i absolutely do not rule it out, so the situation is really seriously, i wouldn't have her there i underestimated what the poles are doing in the context of preparation, but also the lithuanians, this is a completely correct story, i see the president of latvia in the footage you show . that is, this is a serious story both for poland and for all the baltic countries, and i think that to create more danger and more challenges

, this corresponds to putin's logic . the state has deployed about three hundred 60,000 military personnel, 8,000 denys armored vehicles, 6,000 artillery systems and mortars, 650 aircraft and helicopters, due to the formation of regional states in it, the entire atlantic bloc since february of last year has been 2.5 times the usual 30,000 people indicated threats to the military security of russia requires a modern and they reacted adequately every time they talk about an adequate and timely response. they always

, well, continue this thesis that we will now get nuclear weapons and deter nato because nuclear weapons are weapons of deterrence, not attack, and an attack on us will be attacked. here is this thesis about nuclear weapons as a possible tool in the current war, which was launched on february 24, 2022. i'm wrong, at the press conference with emmanuel macron, it was on the seventh of february , 22nd, they constantly pump up this topic, although the same uh, ministers, uh, forgive me, the same president of poland , duda, where in an interview with the washington post newspaper, he said about that that russia will not succeed the use of nuclear weapons, and not only because putin will not use them. i believe that the nuclear arsenal in russia is under

the collective control of many people and it depends on the unequivocal discretion of putin. therefore, the decision is made by one person, do you agree with anjim duda, that in principle, all these maneuvers and all these statements have nothing to do with what they can do, or the russian soul, it is unpredictable, and putin's actions too, because no one knows exactly what to expect from him knows. i wouldn't stutter, i've already heard a lot from our western friends. putin will do something, he won't do something, and i always told them that putin will definitely be ready to raise the stakes. he is deliberately preparing for this

, just as he said after the georgian war. yes just as i told them after the 14th year, i believe that putin has the meaning of the mission in his head and he does not see his mission as the monument to putin on putin boulevard where some future russian pioneers or whatever they will be called read the agreements to putin he really sees himself as the savior of some mythical separate russian civilization and today's russia, so when he will feel that this civilization cannot be saved, i believe that he will agree to almost everything, and i would be careful about statements that putin will never apply anything, i also believe that the probability of this

it is small enough, but it is not zero, just like non-western countries . by the way, china and india are telling putin that even the rhetoric about nuclear weapons is inappropriate. but putin didn’t care about that, he once said everything to the chinese leaders and then in 4 days accepted he at least announced the decision, he made the decision earlier, of course, on the transfer of tactical nuclear weapons in belarus, well, according to what threat, and the question is very simple, and putin and the russian elites believe that they are actually fighting the actions of the united states on our territory. this is their logic . what kind of logic do they have? will not back down, and i believe that even under the estimates that the situation

with nuclear weapons is quite unlikely, we still have to count on all possible options and only because of the readiness for any options, we are strong, we are stable, we are stable and we are ready for any development of the situation, readiness for whatever comes from the territory of russia makes us stronger. this is my thesis. and why do you think the west does not perceive putin as the same as adolf hitler, because i i studied two, er, two speeches, one speech was given by adolf hitler on september 1, 1939, when he spoke at the royal opera house, and at the beginning of the second war, he said almost the same thing that putin said on february 24, 2022, that is , that the oppression of the germans in poland, er, accordingly

, putin spoke about the oppression of the residents the so-called lpr and dpr, then he complained that the poles do not want to negotiate with the germans, uh, the same thing happened with putin, the ukrainians do not want to negotiate on peace in the donbas, then he promised that hitler promised to beat only the military . we will only bomb military facilities, well, that is, there are some absolutely obvious things, historical parallels that indicate that putin is the latest hitler, and if , even through such an analysis of speeches and behavior, they can be placed next to each other, why the world does not understand that putin will lead to what hitler called not only the situation in ukraine, but also in the whole world, there are several reasons

, but the most important are the first two, and if putin is recognized as the new hitler, then the ego must be defeated, no matter what it is worth, this is our position, but not the position of the west as you can see, the west wants to win, controlled, secondly, without reaching pain thresholds for sanctions due to possible pressure on western societies. putin despises the west, the west knows this, but sometimes still tries to deceive itself . putin believes that he will outlast the west and the west here it is necessary to show that in fact this is a key issue or putin's measure or putin's measure the second is related to the fact that if you recognize

putin as hitler, then how will you win since putin has nuclear weapons and women who during all these months of war have demonstrated the ability to that he survives, that he continues his propaganda , that this propaganda is effective enough and in the end, that the west understood a very simple thing, that it is not only about putin, but we say that putin must be recognized as hitler, and russia, antin, must be recognized, who look with pleasure on murders themselves they kill those who do not have empathy, who, as they heard on the phone, say let's kill more, this is actually not a problem of putin alone , it is also a problem of today's russia as people who

are fixed on a completely different value system and today's russia - these are not european values, not russian values this is a revanchist regime, and therefore if the west recognizes that putin is the new hitler, this is a completely different strategy - this is a strategy of victory, no matter what it costs, and the west is not yet ready for such a strategy. well, in any case the west will have to come to the strategy of putinization so unconditionally, but the west sees it from a trans- this strategy as controlled gradually and such that it does not threaten the very existence of the west, that is, such a vision of victory and a vision of the path to this victory despite the fact that we are allies of the west

and will in the future, we differ accordingly and we have to speak about it again honestly. thank you, mr. pavlo, for the honest conversation, and thank you, mr. serhiy, everything will be fine in ukraine , we will meet in the next broadcast. it was pavlo klimkin, diplomat of politics, minister of foreign affairs of the affairs of ukraine in 2014-2019, friends, we are working live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms for those who are currently watching us on youtube, we are conducting a survey, i repeat under what conditions peace negotiations between ukraine and russia were possible. so, the options for of answers under no conditions withdrawal of russia's troops from ukraine withdrawal of russia's troops plus reparations and only under the condition of capitulation of the russian federation well , somewhere, all these percentages were equally divided

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