[000:00:00;00] the ministry of finance and the national bank of ukraine, because everyone understands that people are the most important thing for the economy, this is the most important thing now, and if you can take a slide from the study from the center of economic recovery that we did , we need to increase the pace . such that we could physically balance our budget because before we had a gdp of 200 billion and budget expenditures plus the pension fund 80, now we have expenditures after victory they will be 100+ wua will be 160 and this budget is not balanced in any way and zelensky when he was running for the presidency , he told the wall that was his economic adviser that in order to make an economic breakthrough, and it was written in the program of president zelenskyi, not president zelenskyi, that it was necessary to grow by 7-10%. it's very simple, like doubling your gdp for 10 years ago, 7% - well, it corresponds to the needs of the budgets that we have, because i understand what the share of the state should be in

the economy there , 3 is better in the army, probably under 40 then you need to have a gdp of 280 billion instead of the 160 with which you will leave war or a little more than that. that's why everyone needs to think about what we are doing in order for our gdp to increase, and one story is to talk about migrants, another is very important. this is for the return of our people . there is a category that is considered. for some nonsense, this money is the daughter of a bomb shelter. until now, that is, part of it is a return

, part of it is about the return of people, and any business development programs are about the return of people. indeed, according to the survey, it is not like that at the local level, the place of war turned out to be the chevrons that bring victory closer, the path of the ukrainian people is the path of a centuries -old struggle for independence, sovereignty and our future, when the enemy destroys our cities , encroaches on the lives and safety of our citizens , our relatives and loved ones, we stand invincible a barrier and a soluble force of struggle that destroys the enemy and wins victory, we , the national guard of ukraine, had enough strength to stop the enemy at the beginning of the war, every day

we find the strength step by step to return ours and we will definitely have enough strength to achieve victory. thanks to the defense forces of ukraine, we are moving forward, the coating is in a bad condition. where to turn to independently check the shelter. the instructions from the ozone public monitoring group will help with this. download it . check the shelter and pass the information to the representatives of the state administration of your district. shelter of the balance to the recipient and control the performance and quality of work to try in safety the right of everyone

, we are moving again to the second part of our program we are talking about us ukrainian migrants who have left and we are talking about how to return these people and when to return them and under what conditions how to return them and how to use those who decided to stay there but consider themselves ukrainians, is it really not enough if everyone returns p kirilo excuse me i didn't let him finish the show, how much does labor cost, so i would like to start the second part of the discussion with the price question and ask you to show a slide about the figure of 113 billion us dollars, and this is exactly what the ukrainian gdp will not receive if we we will lose this battle for the return of that part of migrants who are still hesitant and if we lose so much entry only the gross product because it is the sum of all economic relations in the country and consumption and production, then we as a state will not receive about 45 billion in taxes, we calculated it due to a certain

proportion, which ukrainian state plays a role in the economy there and 45 billion. i will remind you that our budget before the invasion with a pension background was about 80 billion. that is, it is more than half of our annual to the kind of dollars absolutely yes . that is, the price of the question is very large and the state needs to invest in this program, not just talk about it there, although this is also a very important function of ugh, at the expense of what , ah, any investments, we can look at , for example, the israeli agency that deals with the aliya agency, but there is a certain nuance , for example, in our society, a question will surely arise do we as israelis need to compensate, for example, a ticket for returning to our motherland, let me remind you that we have another 5 million internally displaced persons who also need to compensate for transport, for sure , we need to create the conditions for that

there was minimal discretion so that it was practically not there, so that we took care of all ukrainians and those abroad and those inside, created jobs for them , created lending programs for business grant support, created housing for a woman from saltovka . only for those who return because aliya agencies, for example, when israelis there return to the country, they will also give housing and deprive them of tax benefits and give a grant for starting a business. we can because we have 5 million internally displaced persons even inside the country and we should not discriminate whether a person has returned from abroad or he is an internally displaced person, well we are now saying that we must we must we must what we can already do it now. i'll ask a question like this, because you see, the marshal's plan hasn't started working on us yet , so the investments won't come until there 's insurance, that's right. that is, everyone, everyone, i sat in italy. where did you, yuri, go in

london and not this podavosakh is again the same no matter how we brainstormed, if they weren't going to, and they didn't, one way or another , it's all a bit of water for now, that is , we have to connect some internal reserves while no one gives us anything, well, now there are plans to mobilize 14 billion dollars this year just to quickly restoration and more than half of it has already been mobilized and is already being used for the reconstruction of roads and bridges, those business programs that exist, this is also work and it is a large amount because it costs just international partners partly partly by the way of the budget and they were aimed even before increasing our budget, the wars of international partners, whether we should give or not, and more than 60% of this is grants, well, it is not necessary to give it, and i would not start a conversation about debts now, there are some issues of debt, because now ukraine is enduring all our obligations to service foreign debts, and we are in this, and it is very important to explain to people because there are such zradophilic attitudes, they say that after this war

, this is what the russians are planting here, the ukrainians will find themselves in bondage and will have to they say, war is not profitable for you, rather, and they are pushing for victory, you understand, well, i think there was a fairly healthy proportion, they will explain it, they will come in. these are the narratives, well, there are certain proportions of the percentage of debt to gross product , and ukraine, before the invasion, had been quite intensively reducing this proportion in recent years, that is, the picture in our country was improving with external god , now it is growing, but it still resembles a picture of the debt of course, the country is normal. in which there is no full-scale war, therefore there is a reserve of power, there is support for the west, there is understanding that the ukraine-fillity program has started to work right now, these days the detailing of these relations with the european union under the imf is taking place, and according to the writing of this detailed plan, it is less similar to the plan for the recovery of the country that we all want to see there, conditionally speaking, it will not be in

it answers the question of whether we need a museum of the holodomor or whether we need to change the trident in the homeland of the mother, but it will be more similar to the imf programs, that is, 50 billion that the european union has already announced of them there 38 in fact, this goes to macro-financial support - 8 it goes to business and the military. they have to mobilize 20 billion, which can be directed to business development, the rest is european integration issues , technical victory, and it is necessary to increase precisely this aid, just go to north america , conduct negotiations there, and mobilize this capital very good news for all of us that the financial rammstein actually started working in january, everyone knows about the military rammstein, but few people know that this multi-don platform has already been formed the country is jaysovan and they meet regularly and stably every month, meetings are held precisely on macro -finance according to our support, because the first years after the victory , until we develop our business, until we bring people back, we will not be able to balance the budget, and we have to think about it now, so for sure maybe it seems to someone that

the talks in davos in london, lugano, is a conversation about something so fantastic future. no, this is a conversation about the actual situation already now, an interesting discussion topic with which we left, but i want to return and pay attention to migration migrants, and again, in these sketches, i will call such and such a term, things that the government and opinion leaders are currently thinking about . is this point present in the attraction of migrants to ukraine? it is precisely the demographic strategy that is being carried out by daryna marchak, minister of social affairs, who manages this process and , by the end of next week, the figures for the number of people in the regions, cities, and regions will be clarified, and it will be possible to specify precisely this

need, as i said, the needs can be up to 3 million well, yes, if we take the average value of the labor force that we need, you said about who can be returned. and i am talking about emigrants in general. well, i can say that at the state level there has not yet been a choice of which country we like. she says that i do not like the country, but it is absolutely clear that we need to relax the conditions for the work of foreigners if a french business wants to come here, for example, to create a factory here. previously , any government official had such reservations that we must first protect the jobs of our ukrainians, but the truth is that there will be so many jobs that all ukrainians will have to work here, and people will also be brought here, and the president's phrase that a non-ukrainian will look for job ads in poland and a pole will look for job ads in ukraine is actually not a fantastic scenario. can do it, but unfortunately, due to the circumstances that were talked about by the storm, we can offer such that a pole will come here with his salary in 1200 ce, as if this is an average arash agricultural sector. it was just

in the last years before the invasion that he faced with the fact that people are going to work in poland, tractor drivers, combine harvesters and so on, how did they start to count conditional mhp and other companies ? they started to count how many people will be left after they leave their families there to poland and they raised the salaries of the tractor drivers there as commanders and so on and to the point that they had the same number , but they lived in their own country, they lived in ukraine, etc. that is why such a question is quite debatable. it can all be done. how would the automobile industry start, the term investment appeared and it was about attracting investment. do you remember when i talked with the bayraktar brothers? they said that regarding the construction of the bayraktar plant, they will not be there yet, and the price of kyiv oblast is somewhere here. well, the first thing is the ukrainian official said that uh, you will bring the turks, and we need

to protect jobs for ukrainians, and he said who did i bring, in what way will i bring my turk on your salary, you understand that 200 to 250 billion dollars are exporting communists here we will need one of the largest financial projects for the next decade, therefore there will be money and projects and salaries , the situation cannot be compared with the pre-war situation, in fact, we need to understand this clearly, and i want our viewers to understand that it will not happen that the war ends immediately we say we don't have enough workers , so let's bring in someone, because from the moment when the hostilities end until the moment when money will come in , until the projects will be implemented there, until the specialists and engineers who will come here to build this specific production, 368 students submitted documents, so where these engineers will come to us

in the first place, highly qualified specialists who are not physically available in our country, and among those ukrainians who are abroad, there are also no such specialists, and therefore, at the first stage, i generally see that our government must do everything to return the ukrainians, this is first of all the second moment to do everything so that after the end of hostilities, because we all understand that rapid economic growth will not happen, but people for some reason they want to eat and preferably at least 2-3 times a day, and therefore after the end of hostilities, labor migration will begin in us, the departure of people from ukraine and the government must first return, second reduce labor migration well, of course, this is not some administrative barrier and the created conditions for work here. but in the third stage, we will run all over europe and look for those people who will go with the projects in europe , this is for the start of europe, because the cheerful people talked about the salary in euros and dollars. imagine how much he will receive the same engineer

who will build an enterprise with a workforce of 1,000 to 2,000 people, uh, what they will take a ukrainian, i doubt if a western investor will bring with him the same chief engineer who will watch and pay his salary right here which he is even higher, even higher, because he has to go to ukraine, and after specific productions are built in our country, if the government is not able to prepare workers who will work on this specific production during this time if our youth will continue to be economists, lawyers, accountants. they will not be able to work for me as locksmiths, welders, etc., and then the question will arise, and where are we from ? according to the russians, they have 60% of all welders in russia. these are residents of the countries of central asia, you understand the same problems there and the same problems with

welders in the countries of europe. that is, we need to think or we will be able to quickly teach our youth or let's say youth we don't want to work in production we want to go somewhere and then we need to think at the next stage and where will we take a sufficient number of these blue-collar workers and this is a strategy this is a strategy not for one year not for one government we need to draw up good now is this strategy signed or not? i think it is now . before the war, the insurance conditionally extended to the borders - well, you are french there or german , and you want to build a factory and the insurance of western banks there, it extends to the territory that could be up to fifty er okotician km, we have an exact border when in 2014 h. happened there for all the events, then the insurance was already extended. well

, the amendments did not extend correctly to the right bank of the dnieper. and now, this is all near the border , so friends, this is a very principled question because even poland itself is spoke at the beginning, she now conducts three locations of the ukrainian enterprise so that all of eastern poland has it, which is different from the west. well, so that it becomes a place where ukrainian business will feel good and the game is our labor force, the working resources that are located in western ukraine, including refugees who came there so that they could move across the border, work there and return back, including, well , who will come to poland? we even understand that we will compete with it. romania can deploy it there, and slovakia can deploy it. we will compete with something that has never happened before in our history, and i and this challenge. well, it works without a radical change of everything. in general , the entry point should be just elementary

, simple, so that engineering communications can succeed . automatically, as in poland today, here i am, i just know a few people who have already built factories there in a few months , a light prefabricated construction plant is being built. they tell you what you need. всё ой меняет здесь здесь, the tree stands there, it is impossible to say that we cut it down ourselves, moreover, you have to start a business . you have not yet had time to arrange something. in opaka, what happened recently? ah, so how is our ukrainian business properly supplied to the device, even though in turkey, these are all the bairaktars . they appeared when for many years there was a standard norm of 40% of profit for companies that supply minerons, it was the choice of the turkish government that we are developing just our pc and we have er why these services are not a question when yuriy said that we do not yet

know about the conditions for exiting the war so we need to know er again we will depend from partners, when we will draw a sketch of industrial ukraine, i will say very rudely that we will be allowed to create in ukraine and what will some of the statesmen and politicians say now? let's not ask too much in a simple phrase, now those who help us after the end of the war, and after our victory, they will become our main competitors. this will really even strengthen it after the end of the war, they will have every reason, well, guys, you won, we helped you, and now, i'm sorry, how do you turn attention yes, we are already competitors with the poles, i will look and we already have differences one way or another, one more question. please tell me, the majority of ukrainians who will not return, how can we make it so that it is a force that even

staying there is the choice of each person. we do not can we force or condemn how to make sure that there was a force that worked for ukraine, that is, people who decided ok, my children join for three years and then we are already used to it then we already have clubs here and so on and so on and how to make it so that it was not lost resources, but additional resources that did something in europe and in the united states and in canada , we have an understanding of how to make it so that these people still remain ukrainians, still work for ukraine and add something to ukraine. there is a shorter one there are many countries that live like this ireland has been living for years just exchanging with the diaspora this is the movement of capital this is currency liberalization this is all that is relevant i don’t know what to say about dual citizenship but it is definitely something we need to think about so that we actually clean up these borders so what if we can't return people, then we can return , how can it be, citizenship must

be introduced in ukraine, eh, the most important thing is that we didn't have, it shouldn't, that we had dual citizenship with the aggressor country, of course, and with by our incomprehensible belarusians, here with all the others. yes, even in the coming years, germany, which has always opposed this, is leading dual citizenship. tell hungary. i'm talking about germany. what will they do there ? we are not interested. these are not competitors for us, competitors for ours in terms of where and where our working hands will be dragged, it will be first of all germany , then poland and the czech republic, and we need to clearly understand for ourselves or we open up all opportunities for a person, do you want to go? you are right, you can go, please, do whatever you want. but you remember that there is ukraine, besides these practical things like, it is calm there, there is capital movement, and other things need to be done as much as possible so that

a person is tied to ukraine it is necessary to constantly build connections, it is necessary to constantly convey to all ukrainians who are there that ukraine needs them , their children, their grandchildren . something to do for ukraine, with which it has no ties, is it being discussed or a double issue, the israeli example indicates that they not only detain people, return them to israel, they also work as ambassadors of israel who want to go and develop business there, and they also work with cultural by the connections of those who are there and are not going to return, so i completely agree, this should be a direct state function , and we did research together with harvard with ricardo chaosmon, and he is with us presented such a term as collective know-how and it means the sum of all the knowledge of all the skills of all the rocks that exist in society and our society now , well, in fact, due to these dramatic

circumstances, three tragedies have occurred, but we are already there. we can already see how other businesses work there models other technologies we are creating connections there and our human capital is actually increasing in value because of the fact that we will increase this collective know-how and it opens up export opportunities for business so i just look at the end much more positively than i it's realistically simple, that's all because i deal with a lot of business with a lot of ours, it has to be started and then we have to think and what to do with it, what do we do next, parents and the human spirit can change this situation , the human spirit must, no one , then reserve today's conversation 2 minutes you have a panel. look, we must have a state of barbelenda. here it is. this is a pink world. it's a doll for us . that's why i started because i know there are enough brains. if there was a bar, barbie is

a movie about ukraine. it's a ukrainian movie. well. a film about ukraine is coming, put it in, they have earned enough , and so on without me, because there, because of the removal of rose-colored glasses , the state will have to change with everything and business , because the whole model of business in business is simply breaking down, on which everything was based, there is cheap labor force, there are understandable markets how would it be, yes, there is an opportunity , er, somehow , to recredit someone because of his connections, he gave someone a bribe. the monitoring policy that did not provide for real lending , it needs to be changed radically when his fairy tales are already in general , i won't be interested in anyone after everything. what

happened, people, eh? well, they will look at things very pragmatically if there is, if there is, they will understand that there is an opportunity they will leave and work there, they will go and not they will not wait because everyone will understand that if ukraine does not receive a sufficient guarantee of security, then the threat of a new strike requires action here and now , accordingly, if the state does not start , they will clearly lay out the policy that we will dump tens of billions so that we, er, free the business from this through peace regulation, so that we, er, begin to lend to the er, real sector, this is a priority . the amount of money and more than the pre-war period there, yes, but the sector actually has no money at all, they just don’t know, they sit as naked as church rats, well, buy the prospects for economic growth, может эти речь i am passing on , uh, my vision in the country needs to develop a long-term strategy at least

for 10 years, at least for 10 years, which should invest in fact all the things that mr. yuriy is talking about and in independence, who is our president , who is our head of government, who is our deputy, and everyone should follow this path. but if we go as usual, they have been there for 30 years, every parliament of ours changes something, uh, every cabinet of ministers changes something, the president changes something, we are constantly going in circles, constantly in circles , we don't have any economic growth, we don't even have a clear understanding of what we have we will be there in 10 years and we want people who are abroad or who are going to go abroad, we want them to either return or not to leave, people need a predictable future, but if there is a predictable future and people will return and people will stop leaving and money will go to us and foreigners will stop by, if this does not happen, it will all turn into ordinary chatter , well, it is not a joke that the best economic measure is the accession

of ukraine to nato, because really, what security guarantees will we have when we leave the country with a victory, it is true will have a very strong impact on business, i can truly say that work is being carried out systematically and around the ukraine facility , this european plan is such an artificial deadline for us, because the european commission expects that already in september we will form a vision for the selection of priority sectors, we will form a vision for precisely to human capital on deregulation on the conditions for doing business and we have to do it, it is fortunate that there are such conditions when there is a constructive conversation, here are the financial reforms, this is how moms have to prove that we are adequately looking at the situation and i invited everyone to this process and we and journalists, analysts, and economists they have all the efforts to the class so that this plan is very practical and gives results the funniest mom or the most profound meme that you had to

see about yourself today yuriy you click there to see what they write well, there is obscene выражение good thank you very much, mr. yuriy, mr. vasyl, mr. kyrylo, and thank you for this broadcast, and indeed, you have a platform so that you can discuss it not on such broadcasts, but in the youtube format, please, we are you, we are here to introduce you, continue to pick up and this is how this social drive arises, let's start let's understand that there should be a lot of conversation about this topic in the near future, that's why it 's a topic to which we all have to get used to, but let's set some reference points already, a point is a victory after which we hope our women and children will return to ukraine and the state will create suitable conditions for them. august 12 is international youth day, as

ukraine is celebrating it for the second time together with the whole world. ukrainian youth unite in unity , we don't notice them until we get sick, but they are the first to whom we turn for help, the guardian angels who selflessly work in the rear and at the front under rocket fire and in the hottest spots , saving our most precious health and life. we understand that the most important thing is our wealth, our people, that is why we are happy for every ukrainian and the ukrainians we managed to save, because we know that there is no such thing as small help and we are ready to support to the best

of our ability, every shot from their shells only strengthens our unity and desire for victory, unlike them, we will put up a victorious and we will recover from the ruins washed away by whom the woman never and here we stand explain to the children the rules of behavior on the water to swim where it is allowed to dive for checked and not swim near boats and how do they see someone in danger