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[000:00:00;00] uh, adults and tasks, if at the beginning of the 21st century russia was open to partnership relations with the countries of the west, how did the countries of the west perceive such a position very badly by the countries of the west regarding the fact that they are hostile, why is it that ukraine plays a key role in the ideological confrontation of the west with russia give examples of anti-russian policy, because it is profitable for america to destroy russian citizens with the hands of ukraine, and what threats to the population of crimea made its exit from ukraine and reunification with russia necessary, because the west had take crimea and use it as a military base so that later i know that i will be able to hit russia with long-range missiles from there . i will not be arrested today by the
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security service of ukraine. could the implementation of these agreements put an end to the conflict in ukraine, and so on. and the minsk agreements , ukraine did not want to implement the minsk agreements. battalion vostok documentary film 23rd year taras bulba feature film ninth year well, scientific and popular literature black book of bandera atrocities in the years 41-45 moscow 23 years black book from the stratum of modern bandera ukrainian neo-nazis 14-23 years moscow - 23 -th year so you see, there are qr-codes, we can even download this book and read both black e-e books well, e-e, we need
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to hold a discussion e-e projects e-e by the way , the projects are a political portrait of yeltsin, putin and medvedev by choice what kind a political portrait you will choose to be a good eh leaders queen choose one to make a political policy choose from these three who would you like to do oh look great you just go where do you make one success after another i'm just you just need to go to this eh school of russian, yes, let's try to analyze the processes and facts, the processes and the establishment of a market economy in russia, and the formation of the political system of modern russia, and the facts - this is the inclusion of donetsk and luhansk zaporizhia, kherson oblasts into russia is this the establishment of a political system, but the world cup in football is probably still a market , you understand. how do you mean it? the world cup
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is a market economy, but the establishment of a political system is the annexation of our territory . i didn't finish reading it, four four, well, that means it's beautiful, we demonstrated how ukraine can stage its theses about war on russia. th grade for 16 years yes so they are studying this entire threshold in the lessons, but they will be somewhere in may next year, this is the end of the textbook, this is the whole thing to study, i really hope that by this time the war will end with the collapse of the putin regime and all this will be outdated by may, but if not outdated and so
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the teachers of these children in all schools in russia, in all of them this is a typical textbook , the crimean bridge will be on the cover, they will teach hatred of ukrainians, we say it will end someday. it turns out seventh sixteen seventh 2007, this child will be three and 40 years old there in 2047, in the 47th year yes, and she will be brought up in the best traditions of hatred towards ukrainians and will raise her children in this way, that is, there is hope that then the russian school will change and there will be other textbooks, but this education will be in the family, you understand how this famous russian anti-semitism was in schools , as if it had not been officially implemented, they told
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that jews eat christian children on holidays but your parents could tell you who you were with you're sitting at the desk, i'm still a figherman, i want to be an old-timer so that your parents don't eat you, this is the cult of racism well , yes, even to all nationalities, so the russian empire planted this anti-semitism for decades, there were lawsuits, people stood and proved that they didn't eat anyone , they didn't let blood, it remained in the people's memory , and then all these baths and matvyi, they told their children about the process, so generations of anti-semites grew up, whom the school did not educate. well, then when the soviet school connected about i started talking about the israeli war, but i was still figlibanov, there was already no transfusion, he had only to flee to israel so
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as not to see all this horror in the soviet union . papa, you know, they ordered a tour to odessa , a visa, let’s say that the situation will be normal in the year 47 , more or less, and paternal. yes, god, to the nazis , they killed people. you don’t represent them, they crucified boys there , they don’t need you you will be killed there today you can't imagine what they did, it's not terrible, they shot drones at moscow and shot them while the buryats were killing them. and it will be unknown when it will end. yes, i am . you understand that this can only be changed by denazification, that is, by what germany went through after 1945 of course, russia will not go through this in russia, the best option is that they will one day be led by some navalny who simply will not want to fight, but we are talking
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to you about popular sentiments, it is very dangerous. i say again, we have to protect ourselves from the myths of normal coexistence with russia, at least during the lifetime of the current ukrainians, it will not be the only thing that we can retreat to nato, get a guarantee of security , have a strong army, that is, ensure the conditions so that they do not come to us in the future, and on this they forgot that it is there, they forgot the russian language in which it is written учебник е-е мединского баулівнык любовь к родному пелишчу любовь к отеческим грабам this is the end of this pushkin they forgot all this read something wrong what wrong material of hatred on which they are brought up uh we need to take an example from of this textbook and create its analogue because in fact this is how they wrote it all it will work for young people absolutely absolutely
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a textbook in which there will be truth about all this that according to such a structure because it can work but of course there will be truth and vice versa anti propaganda why you it generally works because it is done professionally . medinsky's husband does it himself. he simply took the structure of a western textbook and put a lie in there, and that's all you see . it's interesting for a child. they also offer films and projects. there are some interesting lustrations offered. i don't know how many children will read this, how many modern children are interested in history in general , but in any case, if you are interested in history, you will be interested to read all this , yes, with thoughts about the people of bandera . well, of course. i say so much about this because this is where we have certain illusions about what the russians are, which means that as soon as the war comes to their home, they will immediately understand
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how dangerous it is, they are already a different society, a society that would say if there was no war, if only it didn't happen somewhere and we know where because essay if there was no war, those unfortunate people who actually lived through the war and they understood what a horror it is to get there from practically no place, do you remember this horror when we have e- in the bomb shelters, people who were 85 years old and 90 years old died, who lived through the war as children, but they were also 5-7 years old . they lived through it there under bombardments, whether there in evacuation or there in occupation, it doesn’t matter anywhere. it was just terrifying. and these people died waiting . the attack of the attack of russia but these people are few and far between, and all other generations of russians grew up in peacetime, and he expressed full confidence that nothing would happen to them anyway. well, the drone flew by, well, there won’t be a nuclear bomb, well, a nuclear
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state is also very important. do you understand when people can think that the worst will not happen to them. i am still finishing this topic. vitaliya wanted to ask. you are a certain category of ukrainians. there are probably many of them, but i heard such a thesis, but why then do we send drones there to russia to annoy and to they see it now. and now we have the next missile attack. why are we doing this? i think that this whole idea that we can offend them is also childish because, by and large, it is the same idea that prevailed in us until 2020, the second year that you can't insult putin and you can't insult the russians and that the russians have to take revenge without which, and the russians work completely differently, they work according to plans and not plans for revenge they have the general staff of the armed forces which simply produces a plan
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, by the way, these plans have a clear logic let's say there was a plan to destroy ukrainian military strategic objects in february-march of last year, it is not because they were offended by us that we do not fulfill the minsk agreements, they just wanted to destroy our army. on specific oil depots throughout the country. then there was the next plan, when critical infrastructure would not be hit in order to destroy electricity so that people would freeze, so that they would leave the cities or go abroad as much as possible countries, they systematically engaged in this in the er winter months. they didn't hit infrastructure objects anywhere else, primarily infrastructure, then they hit somewhere else . i mean, where else did they hit living elderly objects, they were never stopped if there will be a residential building next to the electric power plant and a rocket will hit it, it 's absolutely the russians, but the idea was like that, now
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we see a new attack on airfields, we discussed it with mr. yuliu ignato in the first part of our there may be pilots there, there may be training centers. let's destroy it. they are hitting the airfield, and even more, they are still trying to hit because you understand that all of this can attack them, but then there will be some other attack, maybe in the fall and winter they will hit critical infrastructures again maybe so, but it’s not because they are offended, but i wonder why we don’t offend them, what does it mean not to offend our russian friends, not to do anything if in the minds of some of our ukrainians it seems in their brains that the war will stop, we don’t we will respond and the war will stop, the war will stop on the border of ukraine and poland, and why if they go, those who stop them, well, they go on. that is, the very defense of ukraine
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is an insult. well, it seems to me that this is an absolutely logical thing, it does not seem to me that it is possible to somehow change the situation they often say that this is a war situation, unfortunately , it will not be possible. thank you, mr. vitaly, for commenting on this topic at length. it was extremely interesting to actually look at these textbooks to analyze. i think it is fun. also to our viewers. and let's move on. this week was the anniversary of the attack of the russian federation on georgia. 15 years, yes, 15 years. i was not wrong, and you know it. vitaly. it seems to me that it is possible not for the first time, but recently, the government that currently exists in georgia is especially trying not to annoy putin. what did we talk about with you, but this time the head of the government still called putin
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, let's say, a criminal. but russia is the aggressor, so it is legal for political life. everyone believes that russia is the aggressor, that it occupies georgian territories. along with this, there is another. and the consensus with whom is absolutely obvious that there is no need to make any decisions that could lead to escalation, because georgia is a small country , it will not be able to resist this conflict , it is not known whether it will help it in the conditions that have developed now on the ukrainian front, therefore, it is better not to deal with it. and it is better to develop the economy, to live normally, and so on and so on, and you know. i think that this is also a rather important lesson for putin. i generally think that these 15 years after the georgian war brought several lessons for him, the first is dangerous and this is also the fault of the west. the first lesson is that you can attack a sovereign country and there will be nothing for it after the 2008 war against russia .
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the story of the missile shelling of skandvala is famous from kenvali and it is still not fully clarified and questions arose, but in any case , skinuvali is a georgian territory from this georgian territory, which was essentially controlled by the russians and was constantly shelled tbilisi, even if someone believes that the reaction of the georgian uproar was not commensurate with the threat, in any case, georgia acted on its own sovereign international liberation territory, and russia did not on its own, by the way , right now in the direction of saakashvili, who was then the president and, according to the supreme commanders from of this government, such and such arguments and accusations, they say, could have been avoided, yes, it was me in russia who concentrated her troops near the rock tunnel even before
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this so-called shelling of the south ossetia, abkhazia, there was a frozen conflict, there were peacekeepers, various mixed forests, more russian yes, but there were some battalions and russian-georgian ones, but they were a minority , the peacekeepers were the so-called cis and they were russian mortars, they were servicemen of the armed forces of the russian federation, there were no georgian troops on this territory but suddenly the escalation began , of course. and i say again that i think it was a rehearsal to understand how the west will react to russia's actions in the post-soviet space. does he agree with the fact that russia in the post-soviet space, they can do anything they want, and this is what i would say is the toothless reaction of the west, what can you say differently? yes, but we must restore the territorial integrity of georgia, let there be a dialogue with abkhazia, south ossetia, let them become part of some georgian federal state, let them be there international peacekeepers if the russians have such problems that there austria from this territory , let's carry out the demilitarization of this
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territory and at the same time put international peacekeepers if these residents of these territories the georgian army is afraid of something like that, there were no sanctions against russia, there was no driver, they simply gave the opportunity to occupy a large part of the territory of georgia and recognize this territory as pseudo-independent, because russia also included the armed formations of these territories in the armed forces of the russian federation, it signed the relevant agreements, then with abkhazia of southern sich according to which the armed formations of these territories are part of the armed forces of russia. what kind of sovereign is this ? the invasion, let's say it was full-scale, let's say the continuation of the war, then it would be more correct to say sarkozy well , he would be the head of the european union, he would do it for positions, but he also said that peace is needed, compromises are needed, unlike those friends in georgia who demand this resistance. i demand peace, and this was also a model. so it was you, not even the sarcasm itself . it was a collective event that could not do anything before that. by the way, there was a nato summit at
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which georgia and ukraine did not receive plans for membership. by the way, i think it was triker and not at all ts-khenvali and not that it was possible to avoid the war, it was possible to avoid the war then when the previous ones before saakashvili, the president of georgia, dav chevernadze, was zealously maneuvering between moscow and the west all the time but he was a politician of a completely different caliber than saakashvili, not yet with putin and he could maneuver like that, and it was also the politics of another era. and when saakashvili led georgia , it was already much more black and white than in the times of shvarnadze . russia is not it is happening and now we see it, and by the way, this is what allows putin to calmly continue to wage war against ukraine, not believing that there will be any serious consequences, but we
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are talking about the consequences of the fact that ukraine and russia have separated forever in putin's mind , this does not exist, i think that the war will end, it will take 2, 3-4 years, the post-soviet society will absorb corruption, clan struggle , money will be needed, and even without any diplomatic relations with each other, all these russian resources, either russian or chinese, will begin to flow here they will start buying political figures, they will start buying media, not as openly as it was. when viktor medvedchuk did it, but there are other people who are supporters of the peace party who will talk. we don't need to anger russia, we need to coexist with it, but if we can't, look how many years we have been negotiating about i can't get anywhere in the european union about nat, they don't take us in . so what does that mean, it turns out that russia will attack us whenever it wants, we need normal relations, all this war party, who was here, she suffered a fiasco
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, she is like that, there are not so many left, one of 30 million is the next one, i want it to remain 15. here you have a great vinnytsia party, who is it because the party of the war was european solidarity and poroshenko as president, now the party of the war is zelensky and the servant of the people, or who did you forget, the first party of the war was the yatsenyuk people's front and petro poroshenko's blog it was the party of peace. and you mean the internal one, or how from the point of view of russia , and you can see the people's court, because the maidan and from the point of view of a large part of ukrainian society , i think that later he loved poroshenko, but it was believed that petro alekseyevich would be able to to agree and this is yatsenyuk, to turchin, the entire people's front is a party of war, for a certain time poroshenko became a party of war, and the party of peace became the party of the servant of the people, now the party is the servant of the people. zelenskyi is the party of war. it means that the party of peace will appear soon. there would be a place wanting to occupy it, you know it simply cannot happen now, why don't we see it
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because there are no elections and there is no war and there is no peace, there are no prospects for the end of the war, i assure you as soon as the guns stop first what will happen in the ukrainian political space is the appearance of the peace party, it will be against russia as a georgian dream, it will call georgia an aggressor, well, georgian zhemlye, it is being done. you see, there will be people who went through the war as georgian dreams, they are these people, they will simply say that you are not do you understand, we need here listen, listen, listen to what this guy says , what is his last name, who was the adviser, he was a former adviser in the president's office all the time, and the historian, he says, practically, here is the
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agenda, which, i'm sorry, he will probably lead this party is pacified i don't know where the role of the leader of this party is possible recently that everyone who doesn't understand why he should be president and then there is obscene swearing in the russian language in russian of course, because the party of peace is forever russian-speaking, it's the party of the russian world and everyone idiots won't remove egos, well, it's cool, you caught mr. italy . well, recently, let's say we don't uh, we choose for one reason or another , there will be another. and i think that this party will have a strong uh, strong opportunity in the future ukrainian parliament, up to 20-30% seats because she will take on herself those convinced supporters of the communist party of the party of regions who devoured the block and that part that voted for the pro-russian elements in the party, the servant of the people they were also now they
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are really going for interrogations in uh our uh well tell me he is sitting well, he may have changed his position there, people are changing , they are changing their positions, they will not be called names, because this party changes positions so quickly in many people and could be located geographically, not even in you not you will have time to find out who gives, but the essence is not in this, the essence is that such a party will of course be quite serious in an apolitical , amorphous, destabilized post-war society, it was trying to find a place under the sun, and god forbid ukrainians will vote again for such an organization with such pro-russian views which dispersed to different parties earlier
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it was 25. by the way , the percentages may be the views of the marriage. they are talking we want to live in a peaceful world if any party knows how to do it, how not to anger vladimir vladimirovich putin and our russian neighbors, we don't love them, not that we love them, no, we don't love them, but we want there to be no war we want so that they don't attack us anymore. we don't trust how to do it. we don't trust them. they use us specifically to weaken russia, and if you imagine people with such attitudes, of which there will be many , will unite with those people who remain the cultural remnants of the russian world, what taras shevchenko said, the mud of moscow, i can say for sure that there may be a lot of these people, much more than we think . during the war, i always tell the citizens
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of ukraine to prepare for an electoral shock in the very first important parliamentary and presidential elections, so that they do not were expecting miracles that the shock would be of such a scale that it could be compared with the most significant political events in the life of ukraine, so the most important thing may be to at least make sure that such political forces do not get this full power immediately after the war they can come to power and they can stay in power in ukraine for many years, but it is important that they do not come to power immediately , so that ukraine has time to join the european union and nato, and only then they start spoiling everything that will be implemented, but they will so that even if we have orbana's ukraine, this orbana's ukraine was in the european union, and in accordance with the constitution, this is important, that is, that we at least have time to breathe, because it may be like this in our country after
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the war that we will not have it this time, it is very important to realize and set such a the task of ending the war and rapid european euro-atlantic integration, the only thing that reassures me is that there will not even be a hryvnia for the ukrainian state after the war and that everything will have to be taken into measures, and the measures will simply force us to create such institutions that will not allow ukraine to sink into the civilizational swamps of the post-soviet of the past, and it is also very important that our allies set such strict conditions for us and that they not even once make mistakes in this regard, both to the ukrainian authorities and to the ukrainian society, otherwise ukraine will face a disaster after the war , and it seems to me that the headquarters of the war will also play a role in this. we should not announce sanctions
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against our citizens, this idea of ​​taking place with sanctions against ukrainian citizens, situations when it is necessary to really investigate this or that anti-ukrainian activity, always me forced to consider this as evidence of infantility and unwillingness to react realistically. the united states imposes sanctions not against its own citizens, but against foreigners. and about american citizens, they can carry out judicial measures, we have others, and this also applies to dubinsky, against whom the case that was opened is absolutely not the one that the united states was talking about states so what are they directly suspecting him of and they consider him to be simply a pro-russian politician and, well , essentially a traitor to the state of ukraine, but for some reason everyone is silent in our country, but i just wanted to to mention the fact that there were american sanctions against russian oligarchs, friedman aven, and uh, what about hrsky
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hranovsky, the directors, he is a director, and i’m just saying the director, dear psychologist. i thought it was rzhyanovsky, because they were all there together in the babyn yar projection, yes, but i, for some reason, thought that i was against him, too. i apologize then , that i was not against him, but in relation to these oligarchs . and it seems to me why when they were supposed to finance this project, the babyn yar memorial , then there was a scandal in 2020-21, and for some reason the years in we did not check these oligarchs, but now it turns out that they are suspected in very serious moments, everyone knew who fridman was, but everyone
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in ukraine always kept a close eye on it. well, how can you? well, freeman is one of the founders of this oligarchic putin dictatorship, he finances it, he is involved in the design of this regime, alpha bank lends, insures , as russian military companies have now discovered this. friedman's city, the entire ukrainian elite went there because they wanted to listen to beautiful jazz. well, then it turned out to be the babin project, which everyone supported and everyone said, well, how can russian oligarchs who are so connected to putin finance a project with such important narratives for the future, you don't understand what the narratives of moscow's attitude to the holocaust to this tragedy, what happened in ukraine is critically different from what is thought in ukraine and in the civilized world, they cannot but influence this project in terms of content and in essence people from russia cannot do the project is dedicated to the fate of ukrainian jews, even if some of them were born in ukraine and have relatives who died there, such we
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all have victims , why, why, why , money is the story. the word of iryna koval, who will introduce you to the final news release. so, we are waiting for this final release with you, dear viewers , we are waiting for you, iryna, please say thank you to vitaliy, really in the next 30 minutes only about the most important events of this week, so don't miss it, well, the world is talking about the counteroffensive, which will help end the war not only in ukraine, and about the first thing that will save the lives of ukrainians in the defense and offensive, what is happening in the south, and whether it will be possible to break through the enemy's defenses at the beginning of autumn, the ukrainian formula

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