tv [untitled] August 13, 2023 1:30pm-2:01pm EEST
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[000:00:00;00] let's try to pass the exam with you. let's prove it to you. i'm saying that at the beginning of the 21st century, russia was open to partnership relations with the countries of the west . how did the countries of the west perceive this position is very bad. a key role in the ideological confrontation of the west with russia , give examples of anti-russian policy , because it is beneficial for america to destroy russian citizens with the hands of ukraine, and what threats to the population of crimea made it necessary to leave ukraine and reunify with russia because the west was supposed to take crimea and use it as a military base
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, what should i know later to hit russia with long-range missiles from there ? i will not be arrested today. security service of ukraine. think about the minsk agreements, could the implementation of these fasting agreements put an end to the conflict in ukraine? well, and so on . and the minsk agreements, ukraine did not want to implement the minsk agreements, of course, i propose chronologically. materials пацаны баталиона vostok documentary film 23rd year taras bulba feature film ninth year well, scientific popular literature black book of bandera atrocities in the years 41-45 moscow 23 years black book from the layer of modern bandera ukrainian neo-nazis 14-23 years moscow 23rd year. you see, there are qr-codes, we can even download this book and read both black books. well, we need
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to hold a discussion. projects, by the way, projects of a political portrait of yeltsin, putin and medvedev , according to the choice of the current era. which political a portrait you will choose to be a good eh leaders of the kingdom choose one to make a political party choose from these three who would you like to make oh great you see you just go where do you make one success after another i just you just need to go to this school of russian yes let's go let's try to analyze the processes and facts, the processes and the establishment of a market economy in russia and the design of the political system of modern russia, and the facts - this is the incorporation of donetsk , luhansk, zaporozhye, kherson region into russia is it the establishment of a political system, but the world cup in football is probably still a market
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? you understand what this means. the world cup is a market economy, but the establishment of a political system is the annexation of our territory. no, it is also a change in the number of subjects. i didn't finish reading these four, four, well, that means it's beautiful. we demonstrated how ukraine can push its theses against russia . years , so they have been studying this entire snowstorm they will be in the lessons somewhere in may next year, that is the end of the textbook, this is the whole thing to learn, i really hope that by this time the war will end with the collapse of the putin regime and all this will be outdated by
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may, but if not outdated and here are the teachers of these children in all schools in russia everyone has this typical textbook, the crimean bridge will be on the cover, they will teach hatred of ukrainians . this child will be three and 40 years old there in 2047, in the 47th year. yes, and she will be brought up in the best traditions of hatred for ukrainians and will raise her children that way, that is, there is hope that then the russian school will change and there will be other textbooks, but there will be this education in the family, do you understand how this
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famous russian anti-semitism was in schools , as if it had not been officially implemented ? i'm still a figgelman to be a watchman, because the parents live, they didn't eat you, that's such a cult of racism. well, yes, even to all nationalities, so the russian empire planted this anti-semitism. for decades , there were trials, people stood and proved that they did not eat anyone. blood was not allowed. remained in the people's memory, and then all these baths and matvyi , they told their children about the process, so generations of anti-semites grew up, whom the school did not take into account. well , then, when the soviet school became involved , i started talking about the israeli war there were still figlibans, there was no transfusion, he just had to flee to israel so as not to see all this horror in the soviet union. and now
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imagine ukrainians, well, in fact, the same, the same, if the child speaks, he will tell his parents, oh, mom and dad, you know, uh, us they are taking them on an excursion there to odessa. well, let's say that the situation will be normal in 1947 , more or less paternal. yes, god, give money to the nazis , yes, they killed people. you can imagine that they did horror москве беспилотникам и стрелялы то время как им убивалы буряты so it will not be known when it will end. yes, i am. you understand that this can only be changed by denazification , that is, by what germany went through after the 45th year.
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that they will one day be led by some navalny who simply will not want to fight, but we are talking to you about popular sentiments, this is very dangerous. i say again that we must protect ourselves from the myths of normal coexistence with russia, at least during the lifetime of the current ukrainians, it will not be the only thing that we can retreat to nato, get a guarantee of security, have a strong army, that is, ensure the conditions so that they will not come to us in the future and forget everything about the fact that it is there , they forgot the russian language in which the textbook is written, they forgot the love of the native land, the love of ethics grabam, this is the end of this pushkin, they forgot all this, read something wrong, what is wrong, the material of hatred on which they are brought up, uh, we need to take an example from this textbook and create our own analogue, because in fact
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, this is how they wrote it all. it will work for young people, an absolutely well-known textbook in which there will be the truth about all this, what is behind such a structure, because it can work, but of course there will be truth and vice versa, anti -propaganda, why do you do this at all , because it is done professionally, medinsky’s wife does it himself, he just took the structure western textbook, he put a lie in there, and that’s all you see. it’s interesting for a child, and films are offered and projects are offered, and there are some interesting lustrations offered. i don’t know how many children will read it, how many modern children are interested in history at all but in any case, if you are interested in history, then you will be interested to read all this about the people of bandera, of course, yes , of course. well, why do i say so much about this, because it is in this that we have certain illusions about what russians mean
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as soon as the war comes to their home, they will immediately understand how dangerous it is, they are already a different society, that is the society that would say that there would be no war if only it did not happen somewhere and we know where because this bed was not a war, those people said unhappy in fact, they lived through the war and they understood what a horror it is. there is none, there is practically none . do you remember this horror? when we had 85-90-year-old people dying in our bomb shelters, who lived through the war as children, but they were also 5-7 years old . they whether they experienced it there with some kind of bombing or there in evacuation or there in occupation, it doesn’t matter anywhere. it was simply terrifying. and these people were dying waiting for the attack of the russian attack, but these people are few and far between, and all other generations of russians grew up in peacetime and
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expressed full confidence that with they don't care nothing will happen, well, drones have arrived, well, there won’t be a nuclear bomb, well, a nuclear state is also very important, you understand, when people can think that the worst will not happen to them. i am still finishing this topic. vitaliy wanted to ask that there is a certain category of ukrainians, maybe there are many of them, but i heard such a thesis, but why are we then sending drones over there to russia to annoy and let them see now? and now we have the next missile attack. why are we doing this? i think that this whole idea that we can offend them is also childish because by and large it is the same idea that prevailed in us until 2020 , the second year, that you cannot insult putin and you cannot insult the russians and that the russians have to take revenge without him, and the russians work completely differently and they work according to plans and not for plans of revenge. they have the general staff of the armed forces, which simply produces
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a plan. these plans, by the way, have a clear logic. let's say there was a plan to destroy ukrainian military strategic objects in february and march . last year, it's not because they were offended by us that we we do not perform minsk agreements they just wanted to destroy our military then there was the next plan when they hit oil depots to deprive our military of resources absolutely specifically at specific oil depots across the country then there was the next plan when you wouldn't hit critical infrastructure to destroy electricity so that people would freeze so that they could hire more often left the cities or left the country's border, they systematically engaged in this in the winter months . i mean, where else have they been hit by living elderly objects, it has never stopped them if there is a residential building next to the power plant and a rocket hits it
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, the russians are absolutely an addition, but the idea was like that, now we see a new attack on airfields, we discussed this with mr. yuliu ignato in the first part of our e-e programs , there is important equipment, there are pilots there, there may be training centers. let 's destroy it. everything can attack them, but then there will be some other attack, maybe in the fall and winter they will hit critical infrastructure again. maybe so , but it is not because they are offended, but i wonder why we do not offend them, which means not to offend our russian friends, do nothing . nothing in their brains
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to stop the war, we will not respond and if it stops, the war will stop on the border of ukraine and poland. it is not a logical thing, i don’t think that it is possible to somehow change the association by saying, well, this is such a war situation , unfortunately for the other one, it will not be possible. to our viewers, let's move on. this week was the anniversary of the attack of the russian federation on georgia. 15 years, yes, 15 years, i was not wrong, and you know it, vitaly.
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he is especially trying not to annoy putin. what we talked about with you, but this time the head of the government still called putin , let's say, a criminal. but russia is an aggressor, so in political life, everyone thinks that russia is an aggressor, that it occupies georgian territories , together with this is with this there is another. and the consensus is absolutely obvious that there is no need to make any decisions that could lead to escalation, because georgia is a small country , it will not be able to resist this conflict , it is not known that i will help it in the conditions that have developed now on the ukrainian front. that's why it's better not to do it and it's better to develop the economy to live normally and so on and so forth and you know i think that this is also quite an important lesson for putin, i generally think that these 15 years after the georgian war brought several lessons for him, first and dangerous and that too the fault of the west is big. the first lesson is that you can attack a sovereign country and there will be nothing for it after the 2008 war against russia. no
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sanctions were introduced, the west focused on situations of who is guilty and who is not guilty. there was a story with the missile skinvala auction is famous for khanvali and it is still not fully explained and there were questions, well, but in any case skinvala is a georgian territory from this georgian territory which was essentially controlled by the russians, they constantly shelled tbilisi , even if someone thinks that the reaction of the georgian uria was not commensurate with the threat, in any case, georgia acted on its own sovereign international liberation territories, and russia did not on the property, by the way , now already in the direction of saakashvili, who was then president and, accordingly, supreme to the commanders-in-chief from this government, such arguments and accusations, they say, could have been avoided, yes, i am the oak in russia concentrated its troops near the rock tunnel even before this so-called shelling took place, south ossetia, abkhazia, there was
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a frozen conflict, there were peacekeepers , various mixed forests of russian russian yes, but there were some russian and georgian battalions, but they were a minority, the peacekeepers were the so-called cis and they were russian peacekeepers, they were servicemen of the armed forces of the russian federation, georgian there were no troops on this territory, but then suddenly the escalation began, of course. and i say again that i think it was a rehearsal to understand how the west will react to the actions of russia in the post-soviet space. does he agree that russia in the post-soviet space can do anything and i would say this is the toothless reaction of the west, what can you say differently ? yes, but we must restore the territorial integrity of georgia, let there be a dialogue with abkhazia , south ossetia, let them become part of some georgian federal state
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let there be international peacekeepers, if the russians have such problems that there is austria from this territory, let's carry out the demilitarization of this territory and at the same time put international peacekeepers. if these residents of these territories are afraid of the georgian army , there were no such sanctions against russia. there was no driver, they just gave the opportunity to occupy a large part of the territory georgia and recognize this territory as pseudo-property because russia has also included the armed forces of these territories in the armed forces of the russian federation. then signed the relevant agreements with the abkhazia of south city, according to which the armed formations of these territories are part of the armed forces of russia . what kind of sovereignty is this ? sarkozy well, he was the head of the european union, he did it for positions, but he also said that peace is needed , compromises are needed, unlike those friends in georgia who demand this resistance. i demand of peace and it was also a model. so it was not even sarcasm itself
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. it was a collective event that could not do anything. before that , there was a nato summit, at which georgia and ukraine did not receive plans for membership. not that it was possible to avoid the war and it was possible to avoid the war when the previous president of georgia, before saakashvili, dar chabernadze , was zealously maneuvering between moscow and the west all the time. but he was a politician of a completely different caliber than saakashvili, not yet with putin, and he could maneuver like that, and it was also the politics of another era . and when saakashvili led the storm , it was already much more black and white than the times of shvardze. it will not happen and we can see it now, and by the way , this is what allows putin to calmly continue to wage war against ukraine without thinking
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that there will be any serious consequences, so we are talking about the consequences of the fact that ukraine and russia have parted ways forever in putin's mind this does not exist. i believe that the war will end, it will take 2, 3-4 years, the post-soviet society will absorb corruption, clan struggle , money will be needed, and even without any diplomatic relations, all these russian resources or russian chinese resources will begin to flow here they will start buying political figures they will start buying the media not as openly as it was when viktor medvedchuk did it but there are other people who are supporters of the peace party who will talk we don't need to anger russia, we need to coexist with it well, if we can't look, how many years have we been going on
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? so many, one out of 30 million here, he wants the next one, there are already 15 left, that’s great, the party of vinnytsia, who is it, because the party of war was european solidarity and poroshenko as president, now the party of war is zelensky and the servant of the people, or who have you forgotten the first party during the war, there was the yatsenyuk people's front and petro poroshenko's blog. it was the party of peace. and you mean the internal one, or how from the point of view of russia , and it is clear that because the maidan and from the point of view of a large part of ukrainian society, i don't think that poroshenko was then loved, but it was believed that it will be possible to come to an agreement with pyotr alekseevich. and this is yatsenyuk, to turchin, the entire people's front is a party of war for a certain time. this poroshenko has become a party of war, and the party of myroslava is a servant of the people. now the party is a servant of the people . zelensky is a party of war and that means soon a peace party will appear. it's just. well, listen. i'm asking you. there would be a place wanting
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to occupy it. you know, it just can't happen now. why don't we see it , because there are no elections and there is no war and there is no peace . there are no prospects for the end of the war. i will convince you as soon as possible . the guns will be silenced, the first thing that will happen in the ukrainian political space is the appearance of the peace party, it will be against russia as a georgian dream, it will call georgia russia an aggressor, well, georgian zebria is doing it. you see, there will be people who went through the war as georgians they are dreams, these people will just say what you don't understand, we need it. listen, listen, listen to what this guy says , what is his last name, who was the adviser, he was a former president's office, he was there all the time, and the historian , he says, practically, here is the agenda.
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uh, how clearly do you remember, no, i'm sorry. he will probably lead this party. peace is being prepared. i don't know where the role of the leader of this party is possible. recently, everyone who doesn't understand why he should be the president continues to swear obscenely in russian . of course, that's why. that the party measure a forever, the russian-speaking party is the party of the russian world, and idiots will not remove everyone from it, well, it’s cool, you caught mr. italy. well, recently , let’s say that we don’t, uh, choose for one reason or another , there will be another. and i think that this party will have significant, uh, significant opportunities in the future ukrainian parliament up to 20-30% of the seats because it will take over those convinced supporters of the communist party of the regions of the opozh opoblok and that part
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that voted for the pro-russian elements in the party servant of the people they were also now they the truth is that they go to interrogations in uh, our uh well, let's say he's sitting like this well, he may have changed his positions there, people change positions , they won't be that's why he calls surnames because many people change positions so quickly in this party and could be found geographically, not even yet. you won't have time to find out who gives, but the essence is not in this, the essence is that such a party will of course be quite serious in an apolitical , amorphous, destabilized post-war society, it was trying to find a place for itself under the sun and god forbid ukrainians will vote again for a similar organization with such pro-russian views that were dispersed to different parties earlier it
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was 25. by the way, percentages can be views , if there was no war we need a party that ensures that the war does not happen again, we are all the same ukraine is not ukraine here. what language do they speak? we want to live in a peaceful country. if any party knows how to do it, how not to anger vladimir vladimirovich putin and our russian neighbors, we don't love them. no, not that we love them. no, we don't. love but we want there to be no war and we want them not to attack us anymore we don't trust how to do it with the west they are using us specifically to weaken russia and if imagine people with such sentiments of which there will be many will unite with those people who remain the cultural remnants of the russian world, what taras shevchenko said, the mud of moscow , i can say for sure that there may be a lot of these people, much more than it seems to us
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during the war, i always tell the citizens of ukraine to tune in to electoral shock at the very first important parliamentary elections and presidential elections so that they do not expect miracles that will happen on such a scale that could be compared with the most significant political events in the life of ukraine, so it may be important to at least make sure that such political forces do not immediately receive after the war, in this fullness of power, they can come to power and can remain in power in ukraine for many years, but it is important that they do not come to power immediately so that ukraine has time to join the european union and nato and then they started spoiling everything that will be implemented, but they will be so that even if we have orbana's ukraine , this orbana's ukraine would be in the european union and the constitution of ukraine would follow, this is important, that is, that we would have
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at least time to breathe, because in our country it could be like this after the war that we will not have it even now, it is very important to realize and set ourselves the task of the end of the war and rapid european euro-atlantic integration that the only thing that reassures me is that there will not be even a hryvnia for the ukrainian state after the war and that everything will have to be taken into account, and the solution will simply force us to create such institutions that will not allow ukraine to sink into the civilizational swamps of the post-soviet past, and it is also very important that our allies impose such strict conditions on us and that they do not even once err in this regard and to the ukrainian government and to ukrainian society, otherwise ukraine will face a catastrophe or wars after the war, and it seems to me that this will also play a role. against some ukrainians, it was not for nothing that they announced it. therefore, there should be a reaction of ukrainian law enforcement agencies and the government directly
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because we should not announce sanctions against our citizens, this idea of sanctions against ukrainian citizens in a situation where it is necessary to really investigate this or that anti-ukrainian activity is just always me forced to consider this as proof of infantility and unwillingness to react realistically . the united states imposes sanctions not against its own citizens, against foreigners. and about american citizens, they can carry out measures of a judicial nature, we have others, and this also applies to dubinsky , against whom the case that was opened is absolutely not the one that the united states was talking about. so what is he directly suspected of, and he is considered simply a pro-russian politician and, well, in essence, a state traitor of ukraine, but for some reason everyone is silent here, but i just wanted to mention the fact that american
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sanctions against russian oligarchs appeared he's a director, and i'm just saying the director is the president's teaching. i thought it was rzhanovsky because they were all there together in the babyn yar projection, yes, but i somehow thought that it was against him too. i apologize then , not against him, but about these oligarchs . it seems to me why when they were supposed to finance this project , the babyn yar memorial, then there was a scandal in 2020-21. for some reason , these oligarchs were not checked in our country, but now it turns out that they are suspected in very serious moments. everyone knew who friedman was, but everyone in ukraine always they turned a blind eye to it
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friedman financed uh, how do you know uh, alpha jazz in lviv and how much we talked about well, how can you? well, freeman is one of the founders of this oligarchic putin dictatorship, he finances it, he is involved in the design of this regime, alpha bank lends, insures, as it turned out, russian uh, military companies. well, this is the jazz of the cutters - this is lviv , friedman's hometown, the entire ukrainian elite went there because they wanted to listen to beautiful jazz. and then it turned out to be the babin project, which everyone supported and everyone said, well, it's like russian oligarchs who are so connected to putin can finance a project with such important narratives for the future, you do not understand that the narratives of moscow's attitude to the holocaust to this tragedy, what happened in ukraine, are critically different from what is thought in ukraine and in the civilized world, they cannot help but influence for this project, in terms of content and essence, people from russia cannot make a project dedicated to the fate of ukrainian jews
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, even if some of them were born in ukraine and have relatives who died there, such we all have victims, why does money this is the story. now i think everyone understands . i only have to thank angelina. thank you for a brilliant stage, as always. i congratulate all the viewers of the espresso channel. for your attention, a news release in the studio of iryna koval, so just now about the most important thing. the occupiers continue to terrorize the civilian population of the kupyan district in the kharkiv region in the village kucherovka , a 51-year-old man was injured by enemy fire. he was hospitalized with shrapnel wounds in
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