[000:00:00;00] well, i will now clarify, among other things, how many convocations uh, well, petro was a deputy of the verkhovna rada of ukraine from the second to the seventh convocation, that is, how many there are six , yes, six will be convened, of course. yes, you are right, this is his house, and these photos are the main flag of the communist party. and then this chandelier, which is on me there, yes, let’s go to the sauna, the usual komsomol komsomol sauna, but the chandelier is bright , let’s continue to talk about the love epic, according to the court decision, the members of the uoc mp must return to the national reserve kyiv-pechersk lavra 79 objects and from the lower lavra so that the commission of the reserve could come without hindrance to all these objects from today, that is , even today, from the day before yesterday, august 11 , access to the lower lavra was restricted for visitors, the commission began work accompanied by law enforcement officers, working and policemen who don't let outsiders

in, well, let me remind you that the checkpoint of the so-called ukrainian police has already appeared since the spring, it seems at the exit from lavry, so that nothing can be taken out of there , which cannot be taken out, but what do you think? the course of the struggle for the lower nizhny pechery, when they will already become the full property of the ukrainian state and there will be no russian monks, please, well, it is slow , but it is normal, it is much darker than it should be, but nevertheless it is advancing. it is real and you cannot say that here it is it doesn't work that he is being rejected, well, actually , so that we can see now, they won't send the first one to prison there, uh, pasha, no one will. pledge but it seems to me that sooner or later they will be sitting there not only pasha is also there and the violations have caused shame but in general i have a lot of names well here it is

literally a week ago the metropolitans five years ago the situation for them i think it is goya the question is how long this hydrogen can actually be undressed. well, even today, we understand that they are mined from all sides, on the one hand, i am mined by the russian orthodox church itself , because it takes it from its own ukrainian accomplices, it simply goes to the occupied the territory as a whole are parties, on the other hand, the orthodox church of ukraine does not sit on them, from the 3rd defeated, the ukrainian state sits on them, and on the fourth side , those priests in their own environment, who can no longer put up with the position of the sacred beginning, sit on them situation. it seems to me that they are no longer even in terms of the number of parishes of the largest church in ukraine. they have lost even this argument that somewhere and we should be the largest orthodox in the country. i already

have them and they are actually in the stage of disintegration question how long will this stage last and how will it end, which faction will they ultimately fall into? well, as commented in the ministry of culture, information policy , namely, all the caves actually come to its balance, now the head of the legal service of the ministry, olena zemlyana, the decision of the courts turns out that now we have two the decision of the economic council of kyiv first recognizes the legality of the termination of the agreement regarding the use of the property of the lower lavra signed between the reserve and the holy dormition men's monastery of the kyiv pechersk lavra the second decision that the representatives of the uoc should stop obstructing the work of the commission and return the property in the amount that they accepted and accepted under the contract in accordance with the procedure is the appeal process of these decisions and the uoc will apply it, they have already informed us that the decisions will be appealed and in appellate courts how long do you think the judicial perspective of these clashes for appeals and cassation will take? i think that

it will come to a pure judicial will, because they can draw completely different decisions to file ten court dishes for different topics and this, well, everything is a general ukrainian problem, you can appeal in court for the rest of your life, and there, as they say in europe, it’s either just or shared to another matter that the executive service actually comes to them before they finish this judicial spam and actually is already working, that is, and we can already see the results of the work of the executive service, so it seems to me that here now it will not last until the end of all the courts and not losses in general, the fate of the lavry of his pechersk will continue to be exclusively in the museum or from time to time there will be religious services, it will not be handed over to someone, the machine of understanding but it is enough regularly, but this religious service is simply agreed upon by the orthodox church of ukraine and

the management of the museum. it seems to me that a part of the temple will still be transferred to the ptu , but it seems to me that it will be a long, gradual process and it will be indeed, it will not be separate churches as before, all the laurels are given to the monks. and it will rather be right-wing churches and on separate conditions, on separate agreements with the reserves, it should be understood that this is not the only government and that we still have problems in ukraine pochaivska has something sapphire in us, it's frank collaborators, that's why this rain is for a long time and it's actually this show . the performance will be repeated if not more than once. it's just not like this. thank you . viktor tregubov was in direct contact with us. weapons and about the communists and about the russian church in ukraine, well, now we will restore contact with yury fedorenko, the commander of the uav attack company. meanwhile, i will read to you about ukrainian weapons, how they were supplied

, how they were bought for the army at the beginning of a full-scale invasion, i cite censor.net in the first weeks of the large-scale invasion of the russian federation into ukraine. when the russian army was advancing on kyiv, the ukrainian government needed weapons quickly, and large deliveries to nato had not yet begun . how did the country primarily need soviet-caliber ammunition ? this is written by journalists justin shtek , enthomas gibbon, and snow, in an article from the times, quoting the deputy defense minister of ukraine , volodymyr gavrilov . the number of stocks of such ammunition was available in the countries of the former soviet bloc, including those that do not want to oppose russia. well, the most important supplier of soviet-caliber ammunition is bulgaria, which refused to sell directly to ukraine, fearing to upset russia in such conditions and with such urgent needs in february 22 in 2018, the ukrainian icebreakers decided to attract as many arms dealers as possible and

to cancel some of the rules for obtaining a license to import weapons. well, as our foreign colleagues write, one of those who also turned to who was contacted by the ministry of defense was serhii pashinsky, ex-deputy of the verkhovna rada, former chairman of the national security and defense committee of the parliament, a member of the association of defense enterprises headed by pashinsky , the private company llc ukrainian defense equipment had contacts in bulgaria, which, as journalists note, allowed prioritizing the supply of weapons to ukraine despite difficult domestic political conditions in bulgaria itself, well , thanks to our colleagues from the new york times edition, you can read the full article on their website, and there is already yuriy fedorenko or fedorenko i apologize correctly, the company commander, the uav striker of the 92nd separate mechanized

brigade named after koshovoy ivan sirk , we congratulate you, yuriy, glory to ukraine, death to the enemies. because we continue to initiate shock-assault actions, the enemy is of course preparing for the fact that the defense force will regain our lands, the state and position , respectively, has prepared the boiling water sufficiently powerfully districts also actively uses mining both stationary anti-tank infantry and remote i will put three dots on this in the russian federation since the time of the soviet union, so they do not neglect to use it sufficiently massively and centrally despite the fact that this direction continues to be a priority for the enemy, the enemy is not going to retreat withdrew a significant amount of artillery as well as means of impression such as saw lancets cuba also uses means of reconnaissance

and the so-called krasnopoli is a control munitions with the aim of impressing the power of the harrow despite the frantic resistance in the strength of the defense there are gains in advancing forward one day the movement is advancing the movement continues and it was possible to occupy a number of commanding heights to prepare new bridgeheads to withstand the shock and assault action from the enemy who tried to renew the position and develop further offensive actions, mr. yuriy, i cannot but ask you how the commander of the upl strike company did you get acquainted with this information that the downed two shahed drones by the ukrainian defense forces turned out to have already been made on the territory of iran and on the territory of the russian federation itself, that now shaheds will already be produced directly in russia , to what extent did this information surprise you? and what should we do , what can we offer in response

? on logistics. well, on everything else for the russians , if they will make these chesses simply at their factory somewhere there, please give me a hint. effectiveness from the point of view of detection and from the point of view of its impression, it is important to understand here that the russian federation manufactures independently in the middle of the state which components are , after all, foreign and come in a certain amount, that is why the defense force, understanding the challenges that are before us from the point of view of the use of long-range unmanned aerial vehicles, the medium-near radius of hope is powerful enough to adjust the rr system, it is a means of radio-electronic intelligence that helps to detect these unmanned aerial vehicles at an early stage, as well as means of fire impression, and also rep suppression of retransmission. these are the means that help us suppress the control frequencies and

, in enough turns, such as grounding this unmanned detailed apparatus, so any action is always countered from one to the other side, the ukrainian side is also not standing still in our country, objectively, over the past six months, the situation has changed somewhat, compared to six months ago, 80% of the drones are detailed , which units are these machines? which were bought at the expense of the funds of public organizations, every ukrainian woman today, this statistic can be roughly said to be 50 to 50 50 we will receive it 30 centralized from the state by the way of ukrainian production of unmanned aerial vehicles of the shock type event 50% remains with the ukrainians who help us because the means uavs are expendable material that is lost in connection with the effect of enemy rap in connection with the e-e influence of the enemy's firearms, adverse weather language

, even banal small arms the enemy, that is why we are moving now, as we did a year and a half ago, in absolute tandem, and i believe that in the future the state will already cover most of the needs of the entire defense, but this is not a matter of months, unfortunately, it is a matter of a certain time , mr. yuryu, well, this week, these photos flew around all the networks, social photos of moscow policemen holding anti-drone guns in their hands well, that's right, well, how did some kind of emotional revival in the ukrainian segment of facebook cause there we are, well , the majority of people are laughing, but look what's happening in moscow they are even police officers walking around with autotrons and guns, but aren’t we treating this story too disdainfully? i believe that it is possible on the streets of the ukrainian capital, too, that ukrainian law enforcement officers and the ukrainian military should also adopt such things, because the ukrainian capital and ukrainian cities are also

subject to blows. enemy drones how do you perceive such photos and this discussion of deprivation, do you also perceive about uh, you know, having been fighting for a year and a half, i surrendered as much as possible, i put it from the yard but i can to say for sure that they should not be underestimated, underestimating the enemy can lead to negative consequences, the enemy is also improving, he is developing means, he drank , he is developing means of countermeasures, it would also be a handgun defense, so i would not look at it from the point of view of some on the contrary, this indicates that a resistance movement is forming within the russian federation that does not agree with the dictatorial regime of putin, and this means that the presence of means fell from the sky over moscow, including, it has increased many times over, including the shock type of action, that is why it is absolutely normal countermeasures

as far as the ukrainian side is concerned. decisions and from among the representatives of the security forces, including e-e employees who are subordinate to the ministry of internal affairs, which is responsible for reviewing, there are a number of already trained e-e representatives who are able to use , including drones, guns if necessary for defense and it will be an effective countermeasure , i am sure that it will also be applied, so really, some things should not be treated with disdain . they are probably the ones who have been attacking her for the past two weeks

. it is not armed, we do not use it, according to the advantages or disadvantages, it would be wrong to indicate that it concerns in general a good aircraft , regarding the use of defense force , weapons are used exclusively on the territory of ukraine in the temporarily occupied regions, namely damage to the enemy and for the elimination of the enemy, regarding those moments that are happening in the russian federation. we cannot know for sure what they were, exactly what kind of piloting they were, the only thing is that in connection with the fact that we constantly see what is influence both on the phone of the base inside the russian federation and on the places of e-e deployment of servicemen of the russian occupation forces can conclude that the direction of resistance inside the russian federation is somewhat stronger as regards the application on the territory that is temporarily occupied by the territory of ukraine. of course, this is a significant strengthening because the more we bleed the rear of the enemy, the less they

have the opportunity to strengthen the front, the less the opportunity to strengthen the front more quickly and with less lost, we can to push the enemy that's why it's a closed circle which must be settled if we still have f16 planes, and they will definitely be so i think it will be a little more fun here thank you yuriy fedorenko commander of the 92nd separate mechanized brigade named after ivan sirk from the bakhmut direction in direct contact with the studio thank you for the inclusion now we will obviously have a short pause after the pause we will hear yes there is no pause there is oleg penzin with us we welcome you mr. oleg you can stop at the director of the economic discussion club i congratulate you sir, can you accept me somewhere as a pause, a pause may have been issued, mr. oleg, i wanted to start you with such a dark, perhaps not very simple and

complex, but we had an i-forum on 20-23 , representatives of large medium-sized businesses of various businesses spoke at it, and some of them stated about the fact that they feel increased pressure from the authorities, well, in particular, the co-owners of rozetka and nova poshta spoke at this forum and what they said , well, in particular, vladislav chechotkin, the co-founder of rozetka, they find nothing with us and fine us for an amount for which, in their opinion, we will not argue that is, these are some minimal amounts of fines, but they interfere, but they check, but they often stop work, etc., in general, it already looks like it is raining outside, you need to take an umbrella and go outside , said the businessman well, regarding these fines , the co-owners of the nova poshta company are also unclear volodymyr pravrysliuk, entrepreneurs were able to breathe freely in march 22, when customs duties were abolished , tax benefits were introduced, and now everything

is returning to pre-war times, when the authorities were afraid. and she understood that everything it can be covered up, they gave freedom to entrepreneurs when it is not so scary anymore, you can treat entrepreneurs like geese and sheep that can be sheared and pinched, said the co-owner of nova poshta. everyone needs taxes because it is the only source of filling the budget and from which today the ukrainian armed forces and the war in the east are financed because the macro-financial assistance that we received from our partners there is clear the condition is that it cannot be used for war, and this year we will spend one trillion 600 billion on war, that is, in any case, everything that we collect today in the form of taxes and fees and where for the war, and as a result,

every person who pays taxes today has understand. she supports the armed forces of ukraine. that is, it is a direct situation and there are no different interpretations here. taxes must be paid in order for ukraine to save itself. this is one thing, and now there is another thing, which is called a mask show . i want to remind you that there was a meeting of the great business. by the way, as far as i know, rosetka and nova poshta were at that meeting, the meeting was with the president, and actually, as far as i remember , nova poshta just then raised the issue of the mask show, and the president then said that let's create working groups let's create appropriate bodies that will quickly react to such things and in the event of a recurrence of business nightmares, i promise you i will react quickly. i don't know in what form these arrangements are, but uh, well, at least for today. this

definitely cannot happen again, and let's we let's remember that on friday the leadership of the economic security bureau of the bebep was completely dismissed , which in no way justified itself. well, i would say so. in addition, if you remember when the economic security bureau was created, then it should have been as follows and above the sbu and the sbu had to give up their economic units, the bureau of economic security , that is, the only body in the country had a chance , which was clearly supposed to monitor all crimes related to economic topics. well, as you understand, nothing has changed, that is, today and the national police and the security service of ukraine have and continue to have their own structural units that deal with economic economic issues, and i think that this is an extremely big fault of the former leadership , because of which they could not bring the reorganization and creation of this structure to the

level that was actually laid in the law actually , what is the problem with this business nightmare that you and i are talking about, it is precisely that some leave, others come, and so that this does not happen. it is necessary to bring to an end all those things that you and i know about, which were actually laid down in the law, it is necessary to finish cleaning the tax office, which at the moment continues to work with huge problems related to e-tax collection, and only after that can we clearly state that something has shifted in our place, by the way, i want to remind that the condition of our accession to the european union and the condition of our entry into the north atlantic commonwealth is the fight against corruption. this is the main issue raised by all our partners at the moment, that is, about what we are talking

about this umbrella . the top leadership of the country is also aware of this, including the question: what kind of investment nanny do you need? well, let's talk about russia, a favorite topic is the pro-russian economy, what 's going on there, the american bloomberg reports that the russian economy is starting to recover after the sanctions. even the shaheds have already begun to click into themselves despite all the restrictions and to manufacture attack uavs , at the same time, the russian ruble falls below one cent, that is, 100 rubles, one dollar is already worth more than 100 rubles. oriented, a profitable thing, and already a certain amount of dollars earned on gas or oil, which they transferred somewhere in india or china, now you can exchange the largest

number of rubles and more salaries there for retired security forces who still need it pay out. how do you treat these two pieces of information and how can you use them? please provide the only analysis for them. well, look, i will be very careful with the statements of bloomberg, statements of various kinds, of the new york times, the financial times, and other well-known newspapers. they very often write commissioned articles, and those commissioned articles are financed by the very sources that are now quite actively financing the promotion of russian narratives . on the american european market, therefore, i would be extremely careful about let's say very much pay attention to what they they write there, but when you and i talk about those drones that fly to ukraine and which seem to be gathering in tatarstan today, then 70%

of the stuffing of those drones are imports from america and europe, gray imports, imports that enter in spite of all sanctions restrictions and what continues to this day well, it does not stop because in this situation the first moment actually the 11th package of sanctions was heavily involved in order to ban all transits to the same kyrgyzstan or there in the same armenia there are high-tech goods which would suddenly get lost in the russian federation, and there are also many interesting things there, that is why the 11th package was actually aimed at preventing such things from happening again. those martyrs will not fly. that is, the tougher

the sanctions will be, the less they will be able to produce the next moment. well , you said that they sell to india , china and receive dollars. they do not receive dollars for what is sold in india in china. they receive the group yuan and those young rupees as a currency with limited convertibility. well, in economic relations from india to china , they can be used and it is necessary to understand that there under each large contract or separately obtain the permission of the central bank of those countries that imitate that currency, i.e. in limited convertibility, that is , it will not be possible to pay for gray imports with some bogus european e-e company because india and china, which imitate the currency, will not agree to this in this situation and therefore

the actual reason why the ruble is falling today and why the dollar is rising is because the inflow of those dollars into the russian federation has sharply decreased due to the fact that the main e-e oil flows go to countries that are calculated by non-free convertibles. it is clear. but did the ruble fall sharply? invasion, it cost in russia somewhere under 80. and now it got stronger, but then it stopped. i now failed from 98. well , but i just thought that immediately after a full-scale invasion, it would be there immediately 150, you understand, and it has already arrived one and a half years of war and only 100, well, this is not a catastrophic fall of national will, due to which the federation sells up to half a ton of gold every month through switzerland, ours is not sold for candy bars, it is sold for freely convertible currency.

very strong restrictions on the sale of energy carriers, the europeans introduced restrictions on gas, oil and from december of the 22nd year and on petroleum products from february of the 23rd year, i.e. only from this moment on, the inflow of currency into the russian federation was limited by one more moment. and let's remember what the price of gas was in september in october 22nd year in europe: 2.5 thousand euros for 1000 m³, today the price of gas in europe is $320 for 1000 m³. and at the same moment when the russians were selling gas to europe for 2.5 thousand euros at the same moment in september in october of last year they were selling the same gas in china through the power of siberia gas pipeline for $170, for 1000 m³ the chinese were liquefying the gas and sold to europe, well, that is

, the russian economy was financed in such a cunning way the restoration of the chinese economy, they generally have a very happy relationship there, the further it gets, the worse it is, but the point is not that point, the point is in another point is that, actually, it’s the restrictions on the inflow of currency. they really started to work somewhere. we now have with you, this is already the result of these restrictions on the entry of freely convertible currency into the russian market . and well, that's all that today is a gray import . well, it goes today only for freely convertible currency and at the moment this is a much more serious increase in the price of the same product that enters the russian federation for russian citizens, and the fact that today the russian state statistics service of russia shows inflation at the level of seven to eight percent, actually one at the level of 14.

that it will continue to deteriorate, so that i don't see anything good about the recovery of the russian economy. i think that this is the progress of the fall of the ruble, it will actively continue because the growth is understood by the ruble. in russia, they expected that in the second quarter, in the second quarter, we do not know whether the expectations were met, but gdp growth will be + 4.2 to last year, in general, your forecast for the growth or decline of russian gdp by the end of the year , the situation 50 seconds, look, i do not believe russia, russian statistics none in this way, i believe in the deficit figures of the russian budget, which for the first half of the year drew a deficit in the amount of 2.8 trillion russian rubles , despite the fact that in 5 months they did not have a 3.4 trillion deficit, that is, they actively understate even the overall figures

deficit by the way, for the 23rd year in general , they have a deficit of three trillion. if it were so simple, they would not have zeroed out the russian welfare fund and they would definitely not be in trouble selling gold on the e-e in the european stock exchange so everything is not as good there as it seems at first glance thank you well, we hope that it will continue in the same direction oleg penzin economist executive tractor of the economic discussion club thank you for your participation oleg and now the incomparable iryna koval introduces us to the news, please passes on the word, thank you, yehor. literally in a moment, i will tell you about the situation not only in ukraine, but about the aid to ukraine and about the situation in the