[000:00:00;00] what ukraine will look like after the war, but each of us has to say how he would like to see ukraine after the war, because ukraine begins with you and me. it begins with those million own identity because they were punished for not wanting to be ukrainian and in villages where people died of hunger in the cities where they were taught that they should be someone else, of course countries are not built solely from memory, avals are based on respect for ourselves, and i am absolutely sure that what we are going through today gives us the right to such respect, if it is not an honest, modern one, then we will not be able to properly honor those who are currently fighting

at the front, those who give their lives so that ukraine would be like this, those who actually prove with their blood that this will no longer be a bloody land, thank you i will answer the questions for another 40 minutes if they will be in such a number, you said very correctly the thesis that there are people who have ukraine in their hearts, relatively speaking , compared to the fact that there are people who have poland in their hearts, i just, well, observing many people who live in big cities and in kyiv, i mostly see that there are people who, unfortunately, do not have anything national in their hearts, and the percentage of these people is very large, as

it seems to me. well, i think that there is such a possibility that some number of our population , let's say, will not want to participate in construction in a ukrainian way ukraine, let's call it that . and this is why i have a question. what do you think can be done already so that somehow the influence of this population does not increase, and that they move to our side, to the side of people who want to live in a modern, normal ukrainian to a state where ukrainian culture and the ukrainian language are respected and where there is an obvious understanding and respect for it, what to do with this population , because i just want to add such a remark that i already see a huge number of reasons for their self-preservation even if the war is long. i understand that in this aspect

, the church is also very important, well, everyone knows which one, and besides that, of course. people now are the ones who even hate russia, the russians. they very often listen to analysis in russian, which hates the same russians and they live in this information dimension and it is very difficult to talk to them about the fact that in principle you are citizens of ukraine and you should probably think about the state as well, and they do not have this in their hearts . what do you think can be done now to make them the influence did not increase , on the contrary, it somehow decreased, thanks, the efforts of any empire are always directed first of all to a small city . this is absolutely normal, because if the empire gains control over the cultural world of a large city, it gains control over

country, that is why in the big cities of ukraine they have always been russian-speaking, because it was on them that the energy of the empire was always directed. on odessa, on the dnipro, in 1917 , the kyiv province voted for the ukrainian national parties when there were elections to the constituent assembly, and the city of kyiv voted for the russian bloc, but still there is such an important moment that we still, what happened in general during soviet times and the first post-soviet years? we got kyiv as a politically ukrainian city. kyiv began to vote as a city of western ukraine and i you i am convinced that if we had not received kyiv as a ukrainian city , belarus was here a long time ago, and led by those presidents , they could have built belarus too. we know from viktor yanukovych's experience that it ends with you ending up in rostov and

waiting for prigozhin what to do, this is a matter of state cultural policy. i say again, i do not believe that we should introduce the ukrainian language by force, especially for who, as they say, is very, very worried about this. but we have to give younger people a decent product, a scientific cultural media product to compete with. by the way, with a russian-language product that is made on the other side of the information system, that is, this should all be part of of our path with you to the ukrainian ukraine as you say because you don't have any polish poland or romanian romania i'm just poland is just romania and by the way in romania people also speak hungarian

there is a very large hungarian minority it's just accepts romania as a state despite all the complicated relations that the romanian-hungarians have with the romanian state and in poland, as you understand , there were problems before the war, so in this regard, i think that if we build a ukraine that respects minorities and that understands that there are ethnic russians in ukraine may have more cultural opportunities than ethnic russians in russia, because ethnic russians in russia live in a dictatorship, that's one story. and when we accept putin's idea of ​​russian-speaking ukrainians, that's another story, but i absolutely i am sure of this. by the way, in kazakhstan, the time of the russian-speaking kazakhs is running out. do you understand how civilization is, you should not just assume that it will happen quickly, for this you need an understanding of this process itself and an understanding of the fact that this process is connected with the state, if you remember from the time when

you have set quotas for radio and television broadcasting. it is very simple. it will bless it with many talented groups of music singers, beautiful films, all this is developing, of course, and there are many bad films, but in order to be good, there must be bad. i, in order not to to write one good text, you know how many bad ones i write, i'm ashamed of myself, but if i don't write bad ones, i never write good ones. this is absolutely logical, let's agree with david ben-gurion, who said that we are building israel, that we had our own policemen and our own prostitutes, we must attack ukraine to build in which even thieves will rob you in the ukrainian language, and the judges will imprison these thieves and corrupt people in the ukrainian language . this is the result we have to reach

. here, please, mr. vitaly, short the question is, do you see ways to destroy the imperialism of the russians and russia, thank you, i do not see the prerequisites for the russians to get rid of their imperialism, but i see the prerequisites for us to stop being interested in it. i think that this is the most important thing, give the russians the opportunity to live their lives . one fine day, the russians will say oh, you know, we stayed with your imperial we now and imperially agree with ukraine, the second country and kiev, the second city, in general, prince yaroslav the wise is not our prince vladimir , the bright sun, not our kryaz. well, let's be

continue to talk, while the russians say this is ours and this is yours and yours is all ours, you know when i understood for sure that there would be a war for the restoration of the soviet union , not even in 1991, when everyone said that it was a mistake , that they separated from us, but when they demolished the moscow hotel in front of the kremlin , they rebuilt it as they like it better than prezhnev, and in this new hotel they opened a restaurant called strana kahlo net with dumplings with cherries satsiv lobio uzbek pilaf and all the deputies of the state duma and employees the administration of the president from another side started going there and there is no country, let's go to a country that doesn't exist well, of course, it is behind

the dumplings welcome, here's the answer to what we have to achieve because all our conversations let's change them they have to change themselves, maybe they maybe they won't succeed in the first one, but they had an occupying army there and a new generation was born, but this is the time, i don't know when the young generation of russians will appear, who will tell their father, did you vote for putin? he's a bandit, dad, well, cool, we can understand, you can die while you wait for this, what do you have to wait for, you need a moat with crocodiles of blue and yellow color, nato, a strong army so that they know for sure that they can't get to us anymore and we'll just read it

later on the internet here's another bandit there who went to moscow and ripped off putin's monomakh cap and turned back to rip diamonds out of this cap in his summer apartments, well, it's funny . there are many such countries in the world, but before that we have to stop living with them alone in life, you understand, you need them, you know, people are older, they bought themselves levenya, well, the little levenya is so cute, everyone told them, won't this levenya eat you, if you and i live in the same room with him there, or together, do you already have an apartment there? well, how can that be? a lion eats someone, well, a lion has grown up and eaten . well, you live in the same place. he can attack us. he is so cute. he plays the volga harmonica for a long time and is so kind when he drinks and does not

fight. to change protection to put then it means to put up barbed wire and that's it , and let them get rid of their imperialism, please. about national minorities

, the autonomous republic of crimea should soon be liberated, that's what everyone says. please tell me today, leaders of the crimean tatar people , such as mr. chubarov, express hope that they will revive, well, they have a desire to revive the crimean tatar statehood, what will it look like? is it necessary? and in general, ukraine needs autonomous republics. thank you, first of all, i waited for the liberation of the territory first, and then you know. i don't like it when they start quarreling and dividing -e skin of an unkilled bear and that's literally how it sounds. the bear in the kremlin feels good, relatively , it's not going anywhere as to whether ukraine needs autonomous republics.

indigenous peoples need to implement the rights of these indigenous peoples, these indigenous peoples live on the territory of crimea, crimea is the legacy of crimean tatar statehood, we already had a situation when discord between ukrainians , crimean fathers and poles led to the disappearance of these countries from the political map of the world and the crimean khanate and of ukrainian identity we have the constitution of ukraine , which clearly mentions the autonomous republic of crimea, changes to this constitution, how do you know it means, if we realize it , if we realize that the constitutional a referendum will not take place in our country in the foreseeable future, it is necessary to fill the autonomy of the autonomous republic of crimea with a national content, in the end this autonomy itself , the autonomous republic of crimea was restored precisely as the crimean tatar autonomy and by the decree of the presidium of the verkhovna rada of the soviet union and the corresponding decisions of the ukrainian verkhovna rada, no other content, no russian autonomy it has never been in it. it was

replaced; now the question arises simply of adopting legislation that will provide the autonomous republic of crimea with opportunities for such functioning if you are somehow confused by the word republic as a soviet legacy, well, after all, in spain or in germany , the territories are called republics, but they have, let's say, catalonia or the basque country have much more rights , i will not through the public to me already the autonomous republic of crimea constitutional in spain , believe me, it is not a question of the name, it is a question of content, but the content should reflect the preservation of the national cultural, i would say historical identity of the crimean tatar people on its historical land statehood, that's all. good day. what's the matter in the information space

? i'd like to hear your comment on this matter. the first thing is that the intensification of preparations for war in russia happened immediately after it appeared in the ukrainian mass media. information about the possibility of submitting to the hague for the occupation of ukraine since the 18th year, the first and second uh-uh about how military crimes take place and everyone says that they are very illogical, but there is an opinion that it is logical enough, they are the hands of representatives

of problem regions russia is being persecuted the public consciousness of the whole world, information about the crimes of the soviet union, now the terrible crimes of today, i think there are many different opinions about this, it seems to me that exactly what is happening today, it just draws attention to what was in the soviet union, i do not on the contrary, this is the first relevant against ukraine was developed immediately after the maidan in 2014-2014 there was a plan, at least i remember very well that from informed sources in kyiv in the west i heard this plan literally with rocket attacks on kyiv and other cities there. i i heard this in the 14th year, but i mean the plan itself, it was not implemented because the kremlin believed that they could solve this problem politically. by the way, as it was in the fourth year after the first maidan, they hoped that they would be able to solve the problem politically and it was solved by electing yanukovych when zelensky was elected in the 19th year and zelensky did not behave with putin like yanukovych, well, at the summit in

paris, preparations began already for a new phase already for a real possible attack, the more so it was believed that this there will be an attack painless and kyiv will be taken in three days. if you want to know what became a real trigger, i will tell you what was the answer of the president of the united states , joseph biden, to the question of whether ukraine can join nato before the deoccupation of its territories. nato to this answer , the soviets in the russian political imagination had the idea that if you make a country a disabled state, georgia, moldova, ukraine, it will never get into nato, they saw that the option itself has changed, they saw all this that the west is beginning to understand that if these countries are not included in nato, they will never free themselves from russian pressure and the dictator, and then they decided that i would take them to ukraine

in three days, and there we would figure out the whole story. it is quite simple to hear i'm here i have a question i 'm here i'm sitting in the center here means i have a question stepan bandera in his opinion, he wrote that ukraine can completely free itself from russian influence when the countries in the caucasus , kazakhstan, georgia will also free themselves completely from russian influence, in your opinion, ukraine will be completely freed from russian influence in the 1930s, when the generation of 2007-2008 will have grown up. what do you think about this, what can happen faster or what will be more effective? thank you. i think that when bandera nominated this the thesis that the post-soviet space should be completely freed, he was absolutely right

because ukraine gained independence as a result of the collapse of the soviet union, joint dependence. that is, it will already return to its own , and now there is simply a very simple test, how each of these countries can protect its sovereignty. you understand that this does not happen automatically. here were the union republics, each of them invented a tool for separation in the form of a commonwealth of independent states, which for russia was just a tool for assembly, and now the question is very important to what extent each of these countries is self-sufficient from the point of view preserving its statehood, you are absolutely right that if ukraine preserves its sovereignty and shows that it can develop in its own way, it can help other former soviet republics, but us

you need to do it so as not to destroy yourself on the way to protecting others, you know one of the last military campaigns planned by volodymyr of the suzdet principalities on the eve of the horde invasion was a campaign against the mordovian principality, the mordovian principality , which was then one of the strongest states in this territory, did not fall under the horde blows the mordovian princes agreed with the golden horde, they went to europe with them, then they betrayed the golden horde because they wanted to agree with poland and germany on joint actions against the horde, their daughter was the murderer destroyed all the hordes on the mordovian lands. it was already the time when the russian princes received labels from the mongol princes, and mordovia kept fighting and destroying the horde invaders on its land. well, what about

the mordovian statehood? as a result, it found itself autonomous in the state of collaborators , so you have to defend yourself so that you don't disappear, you don't have to disappear for the sake of others. this is also a very important moment, you have to preserve yourself and then , in the already preserved form, help others to preserve themselves, you understand, and not burn myself. i'm just looking at it politically, you understand. i want ukraine to win as a result of the confrontation with russia, not to self-destruct and not disappear, and this is a question of the formula that we have to calculate in this war, and our former neighbors in the soviet union will each decide their own formula, we will not transfer our opportunities ourselves the qualities of the kazakh people or the uzbek people or someone else, but when they look at what is happening now, i think that there are many conscious people who are making their

exhibitions, believe me. good day, mr. vitaly, i am here. good day. thank you for such excellent lecture, my question concerns our information policy abroad, in particular in the middle east, why , for example, in turkey, we are less information-strong than russia. thank you. russia invested millions of dollars in its propaganda for decades, based on the concept of a global state, we always believed that others could tell about us the ukrainian institute only recently appeared, we do not have such an extensive system of specialists in all these countries as in russia, we do not have such a diplomatic service . what is russia? we are simply a smaller state than the territory by the number of the population by the understanding of the tasks it is only now becoming clear and russia has always had a desire

it is now working in uh all the countries of the global south but do not forget that this is the legacy of the soviet union and many of the people you consider journalists are not they are not journalists, they are employees of the fsb or the main intelligence directorate of the general staff of the armed forces of the russian federation, and they are not there to report information in order to collect it, but we, of course, need to work with different audiences and understand you understand the needs of these audiences because we often share the same dimension of civilization and approaches to different regions . i will honestly tell you that i start the day with american, european, indian , chinese, and argentinian editions. it's called the morning starts with coffee and then i start reading ukrainian news, but at least i can imagine how the world looks like in relation to us. and i definitely understand that

the chinese or indian attitude to the situation is not what we can imagine. this is an important moment and it allows me to create a picture. world, but i don't think that everyone should do that. after all, i'm engaged in political analysis. and if i was engaged in, let's say, music criticism, i would start the day, lord, happy, please . first of all, i want to thank you for your performance, it's really very inspiring. and here's one question that really bothers me you say that by the 37th year, we must hand over the country to the descendants who did not know the imperial past. and i see another stage that must take place before that, and i still do not have an answer to it. we currently have

six, six, seven million people in ukraine the rest are working, they are state employees or disabled or retired, that is, one feeds four. i want to ask you as a ukrainian and as a jew, because the jewish nation, the jewish state , was formed from immigrants. and we will actually have to close this need for people after we win the war in order not to to play peace because one more strip thank you russian empire constantly when it was winning it populated us with people we slowly digested them they could not remain russians completely because our culture is stronger but now we will not be good

i remember accepting russians. in the 17th year, i spoke with a russian journalist . he said, "why don't you make it so that russians who want freedom want to come to you?" first of all, this is not only a ukrainian problem , it is a problem for all of europe, we are not reviving the population, and if i tell you that ukraine can expect a demographic collapse after the war , then it will still be a very optimistic description of what awaits us. if you you will feed not four, but five, including me. i will try to earn money for the old ones. to save you from such a problem. but not everyone will be able to. that's why i write 10 articles every day so that you can live peacefully and work only for your children . not on me, but seriously

speaking, this is a problem common to everyone, why i want us to be a part of the european union , because there will be labor migration and people of different nationalities can come here , but they will be europeans, they will be able to stay here work, as ukrainians can work in germany, poland, france, it will be such a european life, you will get on a train in kyiv, in 4 hours you will be in warsaw and you can live there for three or five years , work, then return to work in kharkiv well, how does it happen in all of europe, but it is absolutely obvious that in order for this to happen, it must be painless for us, if we create a culturally strong state, then those people who will come here from different countries will not just be like sleepers part of our life with you, they will learn the ukrainian language, they will go to

ukrainian theaters, they will watch a ukrainian film, as happens with