[000:00:00;00] to import electricity, now we are talking about a gigabyte of power, which we can 1,000 mw, but unfortunately we will not be able to take thermal energy from abroad, let 's talk about it in more detail, because we will not make a forecast of how cold the winter will be, but there are forecasts for the heating season is the worst situation with preparations for the new heating season in the border regions with russia and also in the front-line territories , the minister of energy herman galushchenko said about this, the situation is definitely the most difficult where there is constant shelling yes and this is kherson a-a-a-a unfortunately, the shelling happens all the time, more than that, they are quite targeted . they hit our energy workers, the brigades that go there to do certain works, this is kharkiv , of course, again, we say this to the frontline, the so-called yes or parts of e-

the situation is more or less complicated now, according to mykolaiv, ah, but zaporizhzhia is definitely zaporizhzhia, information about shelling comes every day , well, zaporizhzhia. i mean the city and the zaporizhzhia region, first of all, there on the line of contact , there is walnut, and others, respectively, are difficult there the situation is really there all the time, plus they are shelling chernihiv, sumy region, parts of the border region and sumy region. well, the most difficult is the regions of serhiy, so what in this case, because we understand megacities more or less, especially the more distant as we started the minister from the front line, they will most likely be provided with heat but what to do in the frontline cities because there is a case of firecrackers? we remember that there the substation was completely destroyed and in fact a small town was left entering the heating season without the ability to heat itself

yes, this issue was resolved, although not a month later, it was somehow managed to start heating in the houses , how do you think they will solve the issue in this case? if we talk about the okhtyrka, the local chp was destroyed by an airstrike, that is, yes bombs were thrown in the nose, it is clear that those are the heat supply infrastructure located in the zone where , say, a russian manned aircraft can arrive, or where a salvo of a long-range missile system of a salvo fire system can arrive, or else , that is, where they can reach artillery means, not long-range missiles , they will all be in danger, they can be repeated everywhere, to a greater or lesser extent, the situation with a complete or almost complete shutdown of the e-e heat supply if there is a hit in the e-e in the thermal power plant in the boiler room in the

infrastructure that actually produces heat is therefore the only exit well two two if two two three even means that can save us first - this is, of course, air defense and if we are talking about some aviation means the second - this is the decentralization of generation, that is, there should be a maximally distributed system that is, so that it does not happen that one city depends exclusively on one boiler house if everything happens to it. well, the third is the speed of repairs, that is, there must be people and there must be equipment, there must be material so that in case of need it can be no, and god, who can give us warm weather, probably put him in the first place, because to return to point number two, the decentralization of energy-generating resources has been talked about in ukraine for a long time and even before the full-scale invasion, but

now, for example, there is an initiative of the cabinet of ministers. perhaps will you explain what happened in the context of exempting co2 emissions from burning biofuel from taxes, that is, in this way they want to stimulate various boiler houses that work by burning biofuel to do this because they will be exempt from the e-e emission tax. and in what way can this be at the expense of biopile in the heating of large objects. is it about households , maybe about farms, what type of farms does the cabinet care about in this case , and it can be normal in germany, in the structure of german generation, a significant share i.e., well, there is not 10% more, unfortunately i can’t say exactly right now, it is good, more is occupied by bio-based generation on bio-resources . that is, it can be not only waste there. as a rule , it is some organic organisms, a fuel that is not of a fossil nature. that is, it is not coal and

not gas, in this kabinov initiative you can see two components, the first is that it is really necessary to stimulate the production of electricity from white fuel, to make it more economically profitable, it is usually more difficult because this fuel is usually more expensive and accordingly, in order for it to be economically attractive, it is highly desirable that the business engaged in this generation has certain economic benefits - this is one point, the second point is that it fits very well with the pan-european concept of reducing carbon emissions . we use biofuel that is obtained as a result of the fact that plants took carbon from the atmosphere and we then burned it and this carbon returned, then the plants will grow again , that is, in this case there is no history when we we take out millions of tons of coal from the ground, there is such a natural

balancing of co2 and, accordingly, in europe, this direction has been developing for a very long time, for decades , including in the context of reducing carbon emissions in order to prevent further warming of the planet and further will such companies have time for the heating season two months in two months , it is clear that it will not be large-scale, that is , those who hmm, but it is significant for many, it will simplify life, that is, it will simplify economic activity, it will give an additional bill if this will be introduced if it starts working, but you and i will not be able to make such stations. everyone has more options in a private house , of course, but in an apartment building, well, this is most likely not a story for an apartment building, but it can be a story, say, for a village, for a village where, for example there are productions for, again, this is quite often combined, for example, there are a large number of agricultural companies, which

i waste from agricultural production, there is a village, we will tell you how you can use it, they have it, you need to get somewhere, there is no better way to get there, her children are to use it for such a generation if they are even more profitable maybe it will be possible where it works it will be possible to expand this production it will be possible to increase the duration of the time when in this e-e this small not deep reasons for the consultation of the same german specialists because they have to in this how to directly differentiate the generation because the more it is differentiated in space , the less vulnerable we will be to the enemy, now i want to remind all our viewers that we work live vadim kolodyachuk tetyana goncharova serhii lukyanchuk is an analyst in our studio and in 10 minutes nataliya humenyuk will appear on the air. we want to remind you that odesa has survived a difficult night and is still overcoming the consequences of

the attack. expand the information and a few more minutes for serhiy about how we should heat ourselves and questions . when you visit the villages now, it is clear that you do not see the boilers because they are inside the households, but you see the piles better firewood, i.e. people are preparing, and this is again a reason to think that we are ecological and we will be provided for, and fortunately we have a forest, or a reason to think about it, this is how we roll back to the past, a difficult question, in fact , to some extent, of course, high-tech, that is, i would like to see instead of stables firewood, for example, hmm, not even breezes , but air heat pumps, for example, blocks on the walls of buildings, by the way, they are quite actively installed. and there are various options. but again, this is

a thing that depends on the supply of heat it is clear that people are preparing. it is clear that people are preparing as they can prepare. i personally believe that the person who now has enough firewood for the next winter is a very good owner who thought ahead. this is the kind of emergency regime in which we existed from october to er february, in fact er last past cold season, it is worth taking a closer look at what we have. it remains to do the prevention of generators , who has them, stock up on firewood, look at powerbanks, look at the lighting, and they bought it autonomously. now is the time when you can do it without waiting for a new period of hyped prices that will definitely start . when it gets dark in our yard and it gets cool outside, that's why those people who do it. yes, but it seems to me that the residents of high-rise buildings in megacities are in the worst situation, they are

the most dependent on central, well, in the majority of cases, central heating, if those who have boilers, they, in principle, need some kind of current source in order to run it will work, but those who do not have them are obviously dependent only on boiler houses, it is clear that this is so, but there are tools that people can do even in a multi-story multi-story building, for example , see how your windows in the house close, how tightly, how well the window sashes fit it's all regulated , it's all not expensive, it costs uh, if it's old windows , look uh, that is, do elementary thermal modernization let's say it's never superfluous, it's what needs to be done uh, even under normal conditions, it is clear that the local authorities, as well as teplokomunenergo, should take care of e. where possible

, for example, the heating system needs autonomous power, that is, in order for the boiler to work. even if it is a small boiler , for example, our house has a roof boiler room in order to it worked, you need external power, and accordingly, now the house is thinking about how to find an autonomous autonomous battery unit so that in the event of a power outage, the house remains warm, even though the electricity is approximately you have already started to move in general, i will not say, er, activists in the house are in search, but it was, well, it was tangible, but there is realism for which the programs were made, by the way , there are those that help in this regard, there are programs, er, there are programs, er, if options for how to implement them, but in any case, everything starts with the initiative of the people who live in this house, if they are uh, and if there are active people who do it, then accordingly , these and all issues are resolved much faster and much more efficiently and profitably and let's

try to understand hm, probably the tactics russians if last year they did not manage to completely plunge into darkness, it was so dark on the streets so we are already obviously used to the sounds of generators as soon as the light goes out, but it seems that the ukrainians have adapted and the disaster did not happen what did the russians want to lead to and will they be in the same situation again there is no point in trying to make the situation worse , i think they will definitely be because this is such an obvious scenario and it is unlikely that they will refuse when there is an opportunity to do it , remember that every year they cut off our gas well every second year, we either raised prices even before the start of the war, that is, this story was constantly repeated from year to year. why was it repeated ? because it was a very good way to put pressure on the political system, to put pressure on the approval of certain decisions, to put pressure on

the economic, that is, ana, let's give us a part of your gas transportation system and then we will give you a discount there for five or 10 years well, and then it will all be ours, i have no doubt that they will try to do it and here everything will depend on two things: first, how much we recovered after last year's company hit our energy system to what extent will it be possible to restore it, or how much will it be possible to increase stability, again in the prime minister's statement there was a phrase that energy facilities are protected, i don't know, there's no need to say how hope that it will not be so easy to destroy them , to put them out of action with a close explosion, as was the case before we had than it was in october when they started hitting us with rockets. literally the last question i wanted to ask is that we are talking

about renewable energy sources. this is still a priority decision. well, i don’t know if you stand by this, but you said about heat pumps in our country. in goranka, near the guest house, just like the dispensary, they installed a heat pump and also installed a small solar panel there , that is, in this way, they hope that they will not depend even on the attack of independence from the central e-e energy supply, this is a way out for the villages and at least for individual infrastructure objects, but it is jointly with grimpis, zekodia, with various logical organizations, they developed this e. hm, this is heating, this is the case of heating, the directions are very actively developing in europe, in germany, for example, the approved program on the e-e mass introduction of heat pumps, literally by the millions , again in ukraine, if we have other problems , perhaps in many cases it is easier to install a wood-burning boiler or a boiler with a lot of fuel than to rely on a heat

pump that works perfectly but needs the supply of electricity is the same, solar panels are a great solution, but in winter, the generation from solar panels drops many times for objective reasons, the length of today is less, the angle of incidence of the sun's rays is lower, the sun is lower, it becomes lower above the horizon, any means that we can use now, although as far as i know, very well in the kyiv region gas turbine e-e generators are unusual for all of us , so compact, which run on gasoline or at the station, one more, there are many different ones, less than a minute, there are many different ways, what are these ivan franko once had a story called trouble will teach us that trouble is better if it doesn't exist, but the trouble that is happening to us should teach us that there must be decentralized generation , different types are as effective as possible in each specific conditions , that is, we have to deal with this, there is no other way out. serhiy serhiy lukyanchuk, an analyst, was in

our studio this morning. humenyuk is now live with us, the head of the joint coordination process of the defense of the south of ukraine, mrs. captain of the first rank, mrs. humenyuk. we congratulate you. glory to ukraine. i salute you as a hero . glory . attacked odesa and used different waves using and impact nitrons and sea-based missiles of caliber only 15 drones were launched in two waves over odesa , in particular, and eight missiles of caliber all attacks

were repelled by the air defense forces, but the consequences of the combat work, the consequences of the blast wave, were reflected in residential buildings and non -residential buildings, and two fires broke out in administrative buildings, quite powerful firefighters are fighting them. and indeed , there is information about three injured employees in supermarkets, two were hospitalized, one on refused to be hospitalized, but their injuries are under the control of medics, mrs. nataliya, you say that all the targets were shot down directly, this fall on our market will soon be included as a journalist but we can already see the consequences that this shopping center simply no longer exists , so it looks like this um when you define the goals, the goal was for these shaheds and for the calibers.

was directly in the middle of odesa, it was under attack because the rockets had to be shot down just above the city, above the residential quarters, which means that the enemy was directing the rockets there, and in particular , the fall of the rocket fragments caused a fire and in the hypermarket understood that the consequences and what you see are already the consequences of the fire itself, and in fact people were injured from the blast waves and the fall of those objects that were in the supermarket. at the moment, we are talking about the fact that it is not excluded that the trajectory of the shaheds, they almost constantly enter from the black sea, so it is not it is excluded that the port infrastructure was also under threat, but the anti-aircraft defense forces worked, in contrast to mrs. homenyuk . what do you associate with such intensity of the enemy's attacks, because odesa gets

in fact, we remember at the beginning of the full-scale invasion , what plans did the russians have for this city, how did they try to capture odeshchyna, of course, they did not succeed. why , again, it was odeshchyna that was the first to be resolved, the issue of the agreement and the enemy to take revenge for these the issue of non-recognition of its conditions and they continue to put pressure, in particular, on the port infrastructure and on those regions that , according to their forecasts, may be more vulnerable in this sense, in particular, odesa as a maritime region, the port region is really under threat but you say that it was launched in the middle of the city. this means that they want to terrorize the civilian population as well, so that the civilian population will feel bad, and not only the port infrastructure and grain warehouses will be directly destroyed. in other words, they continue

to believe that it is possible to pressure ukrainians to such an extent that ukrainians will ask for e- is the government directly in some way a child of concessions to the russians , right ? between the defense forces and the local population because they exert similar pressure on the front-line territories , in particular the right bank kherson region suffers from powerful shelling just when the enemy feels the activity of the full defense in the south . 22m3 as far as i remember choose me if i'm wrong eh it's not a frequent guest in the sea of ​​azov this plane is so quite likely

that they are choosing new tactics because the enemy is trying to find ways to put as much pressure as possible on the local population and the military-political leadership of the country as well as on the world community as a whole with its power and its strength and its weapons, indeed the tu-22 does not often appear in the region of the sea of ​​azov, but the presence of aircraft in in the air, it is not always a sign that an attack is being prepared, it can be a collection of operational information, but that ’s just it. this plane here is 22m3, it’s the carriers of the x-22 missile, which unfortunately we can’t shoot down. at least we have absolutely insufficient means to shoot down this type of missile . yes, but we

do not have the information that it was equipped ready for use, and you also said the day before that you were fixing the temporary suspension of the supply of shaheds from iran to russia, and then it appeared information already from british analysts that russia itself produces analogues of shahed geranium-two with its components or components of other countries in your opinion. can we talk about what when will they resume? well, for sure here, by the way, what can be said when, but not if, the supply of shaheeds from iran will resume and, plus , the production of these russian geraniums, then the russians will use an increased number of e-e drones for attacks on ukraine. we cannot rule out such a development because in principle, we are preparing to repulse air attacks, understanding that the enemy will continue to press us from

the air, including because for now they feel superior in the air and use this method of terror as often as possible they are trying to adjust their own production, we noticed when we saw on the knocked-down shekheds that there is a characteristic mark for the russian alphabet, i.e. the letter letter and which they put, it is typical for the russian alphabet, that is, it is not in the ukrainian and not in the latin alphabet, and they marked and marked their shekhets like this. that is, you are produced already on their own in their own spaces and the fact that they are trying to revive this production and rebuild this production in themselves is justified by the fact that what sanctions and in relation to iran can stop those supplies and we still do not lose the action that the world community will press in there and the last

question. please tell me today when the shaheds flew. now, by the way, the forces of the crows of the south are publishing photos from the night attack and now you can see these photos on the screen uh, tell me directly ms. nataliya , please. we know that fraudsters change the direction of their movements periodically, they circle around, that is , the peculiarity of the behavior of the current night was that we are analyzing the details in order to understand the trends of this night, they came specifically from the water area of the black sea in order to be detected as minimally as possible, so to speak, in order to perform their work as efficiently as possible, but the air defense forces were ready and worked on them, say uh , returning to the russian uh geraniums and iranian shaheds that russia uses or there is already enough data to understand

the ratio of how many russians use these and others. shafedov, it is not always possible to identify it as a specific aircraft, but it is possible that it is debris from two at once. a more thorough analysis is needed here. i think that experts who are already studying the consequences of these stages will be able to prepare a similar report after humenyuk. and what do you think, eh? we see that the western partners supply air defense equipment to ukraine , mostly the most publicity

. these should be mobile installations cheaper and in use as far as they are sufficient in general in the south and can we say this in general about our country, well, that is, what do we lack, what do we need more in order to repel drone attacks in particular, realizing that such drone attacks can continue and would be more massive even than these. as today there were two waves and only 15 units . we also remember more powerful attacks , including one for the whole and more than 20 units at the same time . therefore, the most effective way in this in this case, there may be mobile fire groups that move very quickly and, as you rightly noted, are quite relatively cheap for use and use against such types of attack devices, and yes, this

direction of service is developing, and there are a lot of mobile groups, and i am from the armed forces of ukraine, as well as in other structures such as the national guard, the state border service, and on this night, for example , various experts from different directions worked out, not only air defense specialists of the air forces, but also the naval forces and border guards of the national guard and teroborona ms. natalia, we are talking about odessa, but we want to remind our viewers about kherson. 23 days after her birth, that's how long little sofiytsi was, who, together with her 12-year-old brother and parents, died as a result of the russian shelling of the kherson region, all of them were at home at the time of the attack. today in monday was announced as the day of mourning for the deaths of seven peaceful people in one day, in addition to the family of the girl sofia , a man died on sunday, he was 67 years old, in

stanislav in the kherson region, russian weapons cut short the lives of the pastor of the christian church and his fellow villager, 13 people were injured under shelling, and kherson itself was also there. russian artillery hit a high-rise building there, three people were wounded, two were hospitalized in serious condition to the families of the victims , president volodymyr zelenskyi emphasized that russia will not be forgiven for any crime and now mrs. nataliya stays in touch with us, so we started this day with you by discussing odessa, the night in odessa the day before kherson, that is, there is no such point on the south of ukraine, which is out of the enemy's attention, isn't it, mrs. nataliya? is it a kind of swing that swings and changes, this attention is because it is clear that the enemy cannot

simultaneously keep the entire border and the entire south under his blows. and it is really impossible even for such a large and powerful army to cover everything at once the world in which they position themselves, but this is how the attention of the defense forces, including those of the defense forces, is in principle justified by the fact that the enemy is not successful on the direct line of contact and tries to divert the efforts of the defense forces in other directions, so they they behave both in the zaporizhzhia direction and in the eastern direction, and in particular even in our area of ​​responsibility, attacking kherson, from time to time they switch to the powerful ochaki direction in order to drag the efforts of the defense forces there , but this does not change the plans and directions of actions of the defense forces of ukraine. we will continue the counter-battery fight. quite powerful, effective, and the most important thing is that it destroys the potential of the enemy , because the countermeasure is a direct collision

, it is very dangerous for us, our people, the most important thing is that the equipment works, then the people. thank you, ma'am nataliya for the extensive conversation for such important details nataliya humenyuk the head of the joint coordination process of the defense of the south of ukraine, the captain of the first rank was on the phone with us in the next hour we are expecting serhiy barchuk we will talk about odesa and the south of ukraine with the spokesman of the ukrainian good army the south is now on the clock the sixth - this means that it is time for elena frostovi to appear in the frame, the information service is ready to work out the beginning of this hour elena is taken by ether, water is owned by tanya, thank you for passing on the word, i am ready to tell what it was a night, in particular, and for odesa, we expect