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on two channels specially created for programs world during the war and on the general channel e on the general channel espressivskyi and here are the anniversary channels e you have the opportunity to answer the question that we ask you every week e-e you can do it on this specially created for the program the world during the war and today's question sounds like this: does ukraine need peace talks with russia, the answers are three, yes, no , your option, please answer us, it is very important to know our opinion, this is not a representative survey, but we would like to see what the viewers of the espresso tv channel think, how they answer the question i bet that monday please join from give well and please put your likes if you like the program and i am sure that

you will like the program not likes well maybe there will be some, but i somehow hope that there will be few of them and write your comments, it is very important for us to know your opinion, but this one is very important for the promotion of our program in the complex youtube algorithm, in the end, not only our program, but espresso youtube in general, so thank you that have joined and i am starting today's guest roman immortal diplomat politician extraordinary and plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine in belarus 2010-2011 mr. roman and i congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to heroes good day mr. roman well let's start with the fact that it ended a week ago, but we have been discussing it for a week and we will continue to discuss it a lot. after all, it is not us . this is the consultation that took place in jeddah - it

is saudi arabia. for such consultations, and in the end, it is possible even to end with a peaceful e-e summit within a year, mr. roman. how do you think this format is viable, and if it is viable, then through whether it can bring results for us, for ukrainians in general it is important to understand that when about something you say first of all that we need to decide on the definitions. i think that we all paid attention to the fact that this event was called a conference, a meeting, a meeting, and so on.

and they are very important, because behind them are the results, and you rightly said that it was just a meeting of a meeting, the essence of which was to work on a document called a peace formula and this document should be considered as already announced and the president of ukraine and some of the participants, he advised jidi a-a at the global peace summit and here the global peace summit is important and the word global and the summit and peace immediately catches the eye. what is it that there are different readings in the question of the definition of this meeting and its status? yes , there are different readings in the text. and in the understanding that such a text well, there is no way it can become the subject of consideration at the global peace summit

because, well, if this is a question, let's say santo, eh , in the problems or from the problems of the russian-ukrainian war, it's one thing, but when if we are talking about the global peace itself, then it should be discussed in any document if it is presented in a similar format as the globe memory of the peace, the problems of the planet earth and the answer to the question of dozens and conflicts of different levels, different scales , and different contents should be considered, including the russian-ukrainian war and so on, all these are not coincidences and have given rise to a number of questions, and there are no answers to these questions until now, and i am convinced that there will not be

, because i do not know such a head who is in this the confusion can reach some kind of grain, this is the first , the second, now, does this format have the right to live ? and here, the first thing is to bring activity to all things, first of all, form and content, in order to do this, you need to decide on the purpose, well, actually give an answer to the question and what do we want when we organize or plan to organize such an event, and even in the fall, that is, if we take the latest date in the fall, that's three, a little more than three months of work, i can say from experience to hold such a large-scale event. well , it's not just that the minimum is not enough and it 's not there, can we say something in this situation

, can we change it? i think that this a will be the content of our further conversation, but will all this achieve the goal that we expect, you can lower the wave, and you can throw a touchstone, ah, but achieving the goal that is being set now cannot be understood only from a systematic analysis of the words spoken by the president of ukraine, the head of the office, no, and even me turned attention to your phrase that you said yourself or a meeting with without russia, and no, you said so with china but without russia, well, it is clear that the participation of the chinese representative was absolutely nominal because what was said in the end was the deputy minister of foreign

affairs of china that china's position helped and consolidate - to consolidate an international compromise er, well, the phrase is simply so curly that it is in the style of the chinese er, well, as in the type let a thousand roses bloom , and it all ends with repressions, yes, and here, well, what does it mean to consolidate international a compromise, unless the chinese who said it can tell us, so it is obvious to me that i don't want to, let's say, indulge in guesswork and analyze . solve global problems, because it exists, you know, it's like from a molecule to a galaxy, such and such a space, that's why when i try to talk about this topic, i want to suggest what and how to do it

so that it doesn't work out. i believe that it will be possible to change the situation there over the years with the crimean platform, but it can be accurate this is the result, and in international relations , when you do similar things 1 2 3 times at the end, you get very big gaps, unfortunately, yes, mr. roman. delassere about the fact that ukraine will in no case sit down at the negotiating table with russia , at the same time, i have repeatedly read on the internet that our western allies and partners well, if they do not force us to sit down at this negotiating table, then they very clearly hint that it is possible to start it is possible to do it and what do you think in your professional opinion how long can we resist

? this means our victory because that is the main thing. for us, it is a victory on the battlefield, but the victory still looks a little distant, but to this distant at the moment of the victory, will we be able to resist these hints from the west to sit down at the negotiating table, the first thing i want to pay attention to is that if it were for delaser's career, then we would know as much about the meeting in jeddah as in copenhagen, and obviously that there was a contact between journalists and a representative from italy, and from there , let's say, well, from the point of view of the ukrainian participants , there was a very serious leak, and it was necessary to extinguish the flames, because after the delegation returned to kyiv, a series of press briefings took place and so on, when they tried to explain, even the documents were made public, the truth is from all points of view, this is not a document for such, even for such a level of the meeting, it must be clearly understood, but

now let's get to the bottom of what we will say, there may be a certain position a-a with from my point of view, here is the mass of the mass of information that goes in this plan, it does not correspond to the quality, because the quality in this regard relies on the position of washington, the position of washington is that the decision on the issue of negotiations is a decision that will be made by kyiv and uh, as usual, uh, in this situation, i appeal to the expertise of the participants in this process, and when i see that uh , they are talking about this topic without understanding that the decision which is primarily related to the military and political situation is, under any

conditions, a decision responsibility for which will be carry the political leadership of the state in this case of the ukrainian state, not in poland, not in lithuania, in italy, not in france, not in germany , and in ukraine, and in fact, it should be based on the position that this decision will be made when the appropriate conditions are created for me it is a pity that there is no clarity in this regard, because certain fragments can be caught only in a systematic analysis of what the president of ukraine, the minister of foreign affairs says , those who are trying to perform some function in foreign policy and ah-ah does not sound because it does not skillfully relate to the situation on the front line. because in fact, any decision regarding the introduction of negotiations depends on

what situation today is favorable in order to dictate certain conditions. and tomorrow is not favorable because you will to dictate the conditions more than once, when it was necessary to conduct negotiations of various levels with the russian delegation, you often rely on that . today, the situation is such that you can attack and achieve success. and tomorrow you will fall into a trap, from here it is obvious that washington is right when it says that the decision should be made in kyiv under what conditions when to hold negotiations, but you uh, you threw a very precise phrase that is primarily related to victory , which victory, because today, mr. yuri, from the point of view of the political leadership of ukraine, we are actually they did not form and what is victory, the phrase to go to the border, it was already

a long, long time ago for you . by the way, the armed forces of ukraine were canceled. military-political situation regional, continental, global, and we should be primarily interested in the national one, we will finalize the situation from here, it is obvious and clear that the topic of negotiations from the mouths of many leaders of many countries is either a reflection and a result of the domestic political situation, or it is a reaction to some international events or according to the result of the discussion, well, relatively speaking, biden trump and how should it be understood that in democratic countries and where the corresponding election cycle is therefore periodically

forgotten about, this motto is born this topic is born, and it is necessary to understand that ukraine as a state that knocks on the door of the civilized world is completely open and is a part of this information space, that is why we have such a reflection , then trump said something and a wave went to him. then someone else said something to him too the wave has gone, it is obvious that in the situation we are in, the topic of peace negotiations will be heard very often. why because there is one more thing from the point of view of us ukrainians, the russian-ukrainian war is a global conflict and a continental and global, but one must understand that it is viewed in a completely different way by those who are far away, for them it is a regional conflict , moreover, the leaders of many states and the political environment of many states tend

to isolate themselves from it . secondly , to localize it in principle without understanding that it is not amenable to localization in principle, remember we talked about freezing for 7 years, those who said that this war is not amenable to freezing turned out to be right about the fact that this war can potentially continue within the limits of the russian-ukrainian war. this is a mistake, this is a huge mistake, because the move of the wagnerites to belarus is a hint , this is an argument for those who are blind, that this war can only grow if the world does not accumulate forces and does not carry a blow to mainly evil in muscovy, mr. roman. but in this case

, the leaders of western countries would change their point of view, their attitude towards this regionality , as they call it, of the conflict in ukraine only in the case of a direct clash with russia, are there any other conditions, if they change their point of view, they can change their point of view only if there is a change in the public attitudes of these states, because there is a direct connection between what the politician of a civilized democratic state says, because he actually wants to be on top of political political leadership, the society , the voter takes one position, he does not have one, i have not met such people in these countries who would go against the will of the voters if they want to be on the dam, so where is the answer to this question the answer is that a long, long time ago, at the level of rammstein, it was necessary to combine efforts to form a joint command, to form

joint armed e-e associations and a joint joint headquarters and joint joint efforts where a polish, german, french, american becomes next to a ukrainian soldier to overcome this evil only then in society will it become clear in any society , finally, polish, french, german , british, swedish, american, what is happening in ukraine, because no matter how much we actively talk, we do not work in principle these societies. they live with their problems, their joys, their moods , and forgive me, and we have nothing to blame for this, but yuri, dear listeners, we did not give them guarantees by getting rid of nuclear weapons of strategic

aviation, we did not give guarantees according to the budapest memorandum, but not only according to the budapest memorandum, in fact. take the topic which is related to the grain grain corridor does not have our signature under the montreux convention . but why is it not implemented there ? it is written in black and white that if there are actions by the state that harm the business economy in appropriate actions are being taken in the waters of the black sea and there is a coalition, but this is not being done from here ukraine is taking an absolutely correct position we must strive to implement the norms of international law that guaranteed ukraine security after ukraine took the first second third fourth steps from here it is necessary to insist on this

only because of this unity through joint participation will make it clear who is the origin of this evil and who is the initiator of this war, and this will be transmitted to public attitudes because it is clear that public attitudes that are not they understand what is happening, they are behind the whole problem, blame these societies for nothing, because they are i say once again , they are outside of this problem, they do not understand this war, roman, then i have a question for you. look, if these people who do not understand this problem do not understand this wars treat it as a regional conflict, or could it be that after the victory of the real victory, they will treat this victory as a regional victory of ukraine and then, well, nato's entry into our nato will be delayed even further because, well, ukraine was able to win. okay, we will simply sign some

agreements with ukraine . it is not known whether we will comply with security. i threw such a phrase that ukraine, europe, and the world do not need an independent victory of ukraine in this war , because you are absolutely right in this statement , when you are absolutely right, because there will be no understanding of the role played by ukraine or the role played by the world is in this war, because some will say that we gave you everything, while others will say yes, and why did you give the irons there, some twenty years ago ?

the actions you and i started from, what is the form and content? they must be so adequate and correspond to the purpose. just like the top political leadership of ukraine does not have an answer to the question of what victory is in this war, it does not exist, including in europe, because some are worried about preserving the face of the kremlin, others are worried about the fact that there are nuclear weapons there and you need to know how to understand the border of some mountains about the fact that you need to preserve the territory. well, and so on. and so on. you need to give an answer and then the path will be clear and understandable, because when you don't know the goal, how will you know what you need to achieve this goal ? and imagine what state the military command of ukraine is in today when

it does not know its resource, this resource it depends on whether it will be possible to supply, agree on the supply of equipment, ammunition, equipment, etc. and this is very clearly visible from the comparison of how the actions on the front of many countries are analyzed today, those countries that have helped , they are more and more silent, those that did nothing at all, they tell how much is this offensive successful or unsuccessful ? here is the answer to how understandable the situation is for the world and for europe. the poles are helping the lithuanians, write those who know what a scoop is, what a rake is and what can happen if the world doesn't unite, that's the truth

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