[000:00:00;00] there were somewhere, maybe 10 people of some kind left, but mostly it was such a family, two families , well, they loaded, they didn’t load, they put people in a minibus, how many people were there, and they left, that was the entire evacuation. and not only that the enemy will reach there or not, well, the kupyan community is not only kupyan, it is also those settlements where the enemy can really reach because he has large forces there and this war can be in the war people understood the threat of what the enemy can return somewhere, some village where he was possible . is this still a consequence of the fact that the enemy is constantly shelling and simply life has become unbearable? well, first of all, this is the main consequence for us - it is that evacuation is now forced from the war zone practically it is not voluntary, now volunteers, police representatives, and authorities are coming

, and it is a forced forced evacuation of people , and before they were, she was free, this is the first , the second, but there in the territory bordering on hostilities, well, it is simply impossible to live and this is very dangerous and people understand this because every day we receive reports that there are people killed and injured and people killed and injured . as a rule, these are ordinary local residents there , villages, villages, on the demarcation line, exactly on the line, where are they going? hostilities it is simply impossible to live there and the people understand it, first of all, and secondly, the evacuation has become a forced regime, and that is why such a number of people are being evacuated. that

it will be unreal, she was not killed, not damaged, so i would like to call on all people. i really understand those people who live there, they are elderly people, mainly these are people who for them have their own home . their home is something that is most precious in the world for they have a farm there, a cat and a dog, some, some calf, some cow. this is the meaning of life for them. i understand them very much, but everyone must understand that life is more expensive. i still call on everyone to evacuate - to evacuate in dangerous places, the war will pass, everyone return to their homes somewhere, god there will be peace victory and everything will be fine, you know, home is very normal, my dear, but i think that in kharkiv oblast they don't think about history, i know, but in my opinion, august 14 is when we had the 14th, on sunday, a whole family died in kherson oblast , the enemy started shelling. i think it was the boryslav district and the family ran to a neighbor because he had a shelter, but unfortunately they didn't make it because it wasn't cruise missiles, there

was no warning, so it flew and that's it, and unfortunately there was also a child, a small boy, a woman and a man, all died this is a native home yard, but unfortunately, it is very dangerous, very dangerous. maybe i would like to be brief, well, it was clear that you do not represent the armed forces of ukraine there , the direction is east, and so on, but the information is certain and there is more, and the security of kharkiv is of interest here. well, and kharkiv region, too, of course, the enemy was accumulating large forces during the war, everything must be taken into account and weighed. well, take into account any development of events, yes, and do not assume that it will only be this way and it will not be this way, because again, this is a war, it is dynamic history for a long time, the eastern direction to kharkiv, kupyansk, the enemy is threatening to capture kharkiv again. i read yesterday that money was allocated for the construction of defense structures in chernihiv oblast, sumy oblast. in my opinion, a large amount was actually allocated there, and the question regarding kharkiv oblast

is whether funds are allocated here and carried out the arrangement of the necessary defense structures because, again, the enemy's dream is to push kharkiv again, and it's actually not that far from the purchase and 100,000 troops, although we are thinning it out with our armed forces. it's still there and it threatens the main city of this region, please well, let me explain to you first of all that they are going to capture kharkiv - this is an informational psychological attack and nothing more. well, what is the point of going through kupyansk to fight for kupyansk for example, it's a big enough place, they'll drown there, just like they drowned in bahmut, it will take months. if it's 100 kilometers from kupyansk to kharkiv, more than 100 km, if they want to go there to kharkiv, it will be it is logical if they will go from the north in the direction there from hoptovka there are zlypki in the liptsi district where there are 35-40 km to kharkiv

well, that is logical logical. everyone should understand that this is just dispersal of an informational and psychological attack for people so that they are in a panic again so that they are nervous in order to they were afraid to live here and were afraid to establish their peaceful life, secondly, i am a military one, but uh, i know that we have uh. practically on the entire territory of the border, on the entire territory of the kharkiv region, uh, defense structures are actively being built because we are there in some eh we take part in the construction and there is a possibility that such a march-throw, which they did on february 24, when they were already at 10:00 in the morning in the village of circuns and at 10 in the morning were already on the belgorod highway, such a thing is

simply impossible, there are several lines e defenses and they are very competently built, that is, people should not worry about the fact that they will need an emergency to gather there in an hour or two and evacuate , if it happens, it will be some kind of offensive will be clear eh by forces by time and there will be no more such a massive and such an intensive attack on the territory of the kharkiv region, as it was on february 24, 100%. therefore, people should not worry if there are any offensive actions on their part, firstly, our military is ready, secondly, we will understand, people will understand what is happening, it will not happen in one day or two or several days, other colleagues say what am i saying, i dispersed the panic, but you have to

ask yourself about these questions than people will listen to experts in tik toku, thank you very much, oleksandr for comment oleksandr skoryka, a deputy of the kharkiv regional council, was in touch with us. by the way, i'm reading now, i'm already going to sell my word to serhiy , they twisted the fact that before the needs of the armed forces of some communities in transcarpathia, they plan to spend 600 million uah on rural roads, yes so that there will be understanding, i hope that there will not be, now we will talk with serhii sgorts , the director of the defense express, the host was the bulls, the military results of the day , serhii, i congratulate our viewers. today this was announced by the general staff and the deputy minister of defense. now our troops are entrenched on these borders and inflict fire damage on the enemy, and we will talk about this in more detail in our military column with our expert guests

. and we will also talk about the si baby strike drone , which is doing great things dynamics on the front line well, how do our sappers fight against enemy mines and technologies and think about it in a moment so today the details of how ukraine successfully attacked the crimean bridge in july also disabled a russian amphibious ship and a tanker, this was done by new naval drones called sea baby, and the security service just handed over to the sinena radio company this unique footage of the moment when an experimental marine drone was used for combat missions, the head of the sbu vasyl baby reported that the new unmanned aerial vehicle

all baby is the sbu's own technical development, and the team of e-e special service a is working on the development and production, which is assisted by engineers and it officials did not receive any assistance abroad, and the important thing is that in fact this unique weapon will continue to be actively used in hostilities against the russian federation, and the sbu leaders said that there are many missions and many plans for how they will be used. so we are waiting for some surprises which i think will be both dangerous and painful for the enemy, and i hope that this is a really good technical level that has been implemented in ukraine, and then we will talk about what is happening on the front line, in fact, in addition to the release of the harvest there are many other difficult and important areas, and we will talk about this with our guest in view of his knowledge and

awareness, and i think that the analysis will be extremely interesting. roman kostenko, colonel of the sbu, sector of the verkhovna rada committee on national security , defense and intelligence, joins us. i congratulate you for the sake of seeing and hearing. i congratulate you on the liberation of the harvester. it is good news, but this victory was not given to us at a simple price, and we understand that the enemy is unlikely to retreat easily on further frontiers. how do you assess it now? the situation and dynamics specifically in the berdyansk and melitopol directions, which is now in the center of attention there and in the ukrainian foreign ministry, in view of the priority areas of action of the armed forces, well , you know the situation there. i probably won’t surprise anyone that the situation there is difficult. we could separately inspect the eastern direction separately, the southern direction separately, and

the khersonsky one separately there. so why did you separate the two southern directions of the e-e direction, then here i will now say that the dynamics happened now , the dynamics are the same when the entire front moved even when some of its parts are on the defensive and when one direction is tight, the situation in one direction is closely dependent on the situation in the other, we now see what is happening, for example globally, and strategically, the enemy is conducting a strategic defensive operation with elements of the offensive, what we see in the east they are trying to spend there and military, and let's say yes , to achieve military goals and political ones , at one time we are conducting an announced offensive operation with elements of defense, what we see there in some directions we have an egg hmm now let's say there are two such operations going on because what is happening in general we see that we are trying

to attack in a strategic direction for us this is literally quite difficult because we are attacking an enemy that prevails prevails in artillery has greater capabilities in aviation and in technology and it is really very difficult, but at the same time, we are not talking about mined lines, about how they are mined there, all naming standards in them are simply exceeded many times, why is this done? everyone understands because, even if not a professional looking at the map, they see that indeed with our success on the very in this direction when we achieve our success, and success is what i call the e-e global exit to melitopol berdyansk this corridor exit to the e-e shores of the sea of ​​azov automatically opens up opportunities for us there it e- as they say, the wedge between

the two groups and the south and the east , the ability to strike . the impression of the ports is a mirror where the russians on the black sea on the azov sea are also strikes to leave that is why this direction is very important for them, they understand it and hmm, seeing that here we have our reserves and we still achieve success, the russians open such an offensive operation of their eh in the eastern direction, what we see now is happening in kupyansk well, first of all, if we are talking about politics, they really need victories, we are talking about elections in the russian federation, about the fact that victories are needed, because in fact there are no victories

the army has not recently gained e bakhmut is not taken into account because this victory is exclusively for the criminal organization wagner and for the russian army for their population - it is a retreat from kharkov retreat from e kherson and this, in principle, their offensive last year's operation and what we see has ended that's why they are trying to attack there and the whole way out for well i say once again on the donetsk luhansk region over mine borders in order to show at least some kind of victory yes the tsar is weak we need victory we need to show everyone and in first of all, we have somehow achieved it, it will be possible to sell it, even if somehow it is not ukraine in three days. look at the republics like the one we released

. the zaporizhia direction, force us to maneuver, relieve the pressure on zaporizhzhia and transfer the reserves here on the kupyansk, because to say that they are going well , we can separately consider the situation with the kupyansk in general. case but many people there say that kupyansk is important for the russians as a nodal station that they had before our counteroffensive , i doubt it because in order to take the station itself they need to do a lot of things local there does not help the area just there helps defensive defensive i'm afraid for you, but for us, because the right side of the askol is higher there, sometimes there are drops of 100 m , so it's quite difficult to ford the river there. well , in order to use kupyansk itself as a university station, you need to have, well, you need repulse our troops there at i think 20-30 kilometers

, and this well, it is unlikely, as i see it, they do not have such opportunities, therefore, i think it is more here, you know, to withdraw the troops well, and achieve some kind of victory, after all, on the political side show that after all, we are on the offensive now, when we talked about zaporizhia and what they are doing in kupyansk , i am speaking in russian, closing this er cascade, let's say er directions, the kherson direction, in principle, it has now become more active, even though it was there a month or two ago, it was not so active now it has become more active, some of our active actions have led to the fact that the reserves that the russians were preparing to overturn the zaporozhye direction, they are forced to overturn here in order to hold the left bank and prevent us from developing our success. we see how the enemies are pulling up the equipment and

this is already ours. well, you can call it a game, yes, our strategy is that here we are already setting the pace and we are forcing the russians to maneuver, so i say once again that the entire front is very interconnected , i don't think it was like that even before now it has revived and one direction has a very strong influence on the other panorama. what about the russian reserves? because different experts have different assessments here, you mentioned that they took part of the troops from kherson and transferred them to zaporizhzhia. zaporizhzhia seems to have begun to unpack strategic reserves. i have a certain doubt, but i want you to say that the enemy with reserves really has such prerequisites that our actions forced the enemy to put on the front what he was putting off for another time, we are really impressive a large amount of their equipment. i am sure that when they were making some calculations, the people of chana saw every day how russian equipment was affected, sometimes

without orders at all, you know when there are battles one on one, two on one, and here literally many times over, we will destroy more equipment, and this will stop them er, to really get the reserves, but there to say that these are directly strategic reserves , how did they not have the question of what they lack in reserve equipment, the question of their recovery, what are they doing now, what is recovery, we understand the withdrawal as from you, the storage of various the quality they had there is that they have a large number, i want to remind you once again to say that russia fought with its resources not before the war with ukraine, but before the war with all of nato . therefore, they had the resources to fight with nato, it was there at that time there were 25 countries, what was a certain amount, that's why they have not from one ukraine, not from any country in europe, that's why they have a lot of reserves now, our intelligence reports and let 's say it says that the russians, understanding that they

have reserves it is there to conduct an offensive operation in only one direction, this is what they can do now and they will. i think they will mobilize in the fall . if nothing changes there, their plans will be . achieve some kind of success in luhansk well , i say once again that this success may not even be territorial, but rather the withdrawal of our reserves, that is why there are resources. i think they must be prepared and they will spend on this. i i think when the hostilities will end, the main one is the month of october, maybe sooner, everything will depend on the weather, and then they will spend them, accumulate, remove from warehouses, restore and train crews so that next year they will have the number of uh to carry out the next operations, well that is, you also mention next year, why am i saying that literally yesterday, a publication appeared on the island

of jordal, where they say that it is possible to postpone our main attack to the spring of next year, given the density and the stability of the russian defense how do you assess the probability and acceptability of such a scenario for our armed forces in view of the risks, challenges, opportunities, etc., etc., well , listen, i just don’t know, we often listen to vorskli, split journal, or there , the new york times, or the washington post, or of other foreign journalists, and we have been talking about it for a long time. means the success we planned, it can mean partial success, it can mean no success, it can mean a specific failure there. yes, when there are serious

hostilities, like now, when we are in a single village , i don’t know who lives there, 10 people live there, we can cause great losses there and not to advance further because this is a war and in fact we have to make decisions for ourselves, they have to make decisions, we continue to spend the reserves, or we, for example , at this moment, understanding that russia is a great resource. they, er, are going to play for a long time are going to withdraw, we need to work out our strategy, here it is important to understand what our current strategy is, what we are doing now , a strategy, for example, a counteroffensive, but this is in terms of strategy, it is not something so global that will allow us to see how we win this war, we need to understand how we the whole war will go on in stages, we must understand that this year we will, as we say, become defensive, we are preparing for next year's reserves , at this time we see that it is impossible to move the russians due to the overwhelming forces of the enemy

, so we must change our tactics each has a direction, must work in order to judge them, what is important for the russians is the war and the economy, of course they can now use their missiles, they have restored the defense of the industrial complex, they are using diplomacy to start looking for some kind of partners with them there, let’s say they don’t shake hands, but they can supply they have weapons. and with these weapons , we have to work on burning them , critical infrastructure objects, these are long-range missiles , we have to have these tactics, for example, i am now i don't say what the strategy should be, as i see it, they achieved some kind of success, became defensive, realized that success comes at a high price, that we have to destroy the economy, all resources for the creation of missiles, long-range drones, we, the development of new technologies

and we deliver a massive blow to their rear, er, at the same time, we work with our partners so that they transfer the same technologies, the same weapons to us, and suppress them with sanctions, this is also a very effective er, a very effective er tool, and then we see that russia is beginning to lose their resources and at the same time we destroy them, for example, on the battlefield, it knocks out the potential, we understand that this strategy will be calculated for several years , then we conduct informational and psychological operations on all front lines, plus inside the russian federation, we activate the rest to work better, our uh, let's say the resistance movement, this is very important when the russians in the occupied territories were afraid to go out to patrol the streets , it doesn't work like that now, but we have to do it when there will be a fire in their rear, when every russian will know that the war is near, that's why we we know one strategy - we saved ukraine, it is there at the moment

from the territory of all of us, or there is 20% now there is no, but we have one strategy, we have to return everything to the last meter, how will it be, we need to sit down and specifically talk about a quick victory , we will not we understand that in terms of resources, russia is stronger in terms of human resources, the more we lose the best , they chase criminals to kill the worst and our task may stretch a little in time, but to save the lives of our soldiers, this is what i am saying for example , how should it look, but we have all this to prove to our society that society does not relax and does not intend to go on vacation in the crimea in may or ok, i will not go to the army, because after all, the victory is already a counteroffensive , the war will end, so there must be punishment that must be proved, roman, if you can hear me, thank you very much for your realistic assessments are fair assessments to which we all listen and i will remind our viewers that

the espresso channels will appear because roman kostenko , colonel of the sbu, deputy of the verkhovna rada and secretary of parliamentary assets for national security, defense and intelligence a now to another reality on the battlefield - we are going to talk about demining and enemy mines on the battlefield, how to deal with them, and now we are joined by the executive director of the public organization, all sappers' association , timur pestryuga, mr. timor. congratulations, i am glad to see and hear you. greetings, good e- eh, i know that your main profile of tasks now is humanitarian demining itself, but eh, this is where the war has already taken place, relatively speaking, but i am sure that you communicate with military sappers, your colleagues who provide demining on the contact line and here's how to act in conditions of such total demining, how to protect the lives of sappers and carry out tasks, what are the main conclusions you draw talking

with your military colleagues yes, i will remind the audience that there are three types of demining , the so-called humanitarian applications, you said, but there are combat combat demining is what is primarily carried out by the armed forces of ukraine and operational demining that takes place during the execution of operational tasks, for example , immediately during the de-occupation of the hidden and all three types primarily need support, significant support, in this case you asked about combat, this primarily means logistical support , for example, robotic complexes, such as the word production mv4 mv10 e-e that can make passages in engineering

the same obstacles to solve a number of tasks for our engineering super units, that is, equipment is the number one and second issue - and teaching has come into its own even though we have a good school, i always emphasized this to us even before of a full-scale invasion, there were many specialists, but many within the framework of this tragedy, this is not an incorrect word, in fact, we still lack specialists. that is, we have to increase the training of our sappers, these are definitely two critical components that are needed in order to solve, including combat tasks , you they mentioned robotic means of demining, about technology, today was

a story family , now i will ask our directors to show this story somewhere. you can see where they are scattered, how effective such technologies are, and maybe there are some other powerful know-how that can be borrowed from world experience, but in fact we are not standing still. and even the progress of the 23rd year shows that we are now using everything that is available the best in the world. we are trying to implement it in ukraine. that is, these are ordinary drones , an optimized complex, there are drones that do a lot of spectral analysis, that is, starting from ultraviolet and ending with infrared e-e radiation. that is , it is all. it is all used and everything that has

in their presence, including combat units, they used everything, of course, but we have to understand that drones will not completely cover this spectrum of tasks for us, because there are stretch marks, there are mines, for example, the same pfmk, it is unlikely that this the drone will show because of the heat, it's a mine petal, so it reminds me, that is, there are many nuances, let's say, that without human intervention, and in this case, the sapper, we can't close it, that's why. that's right, sir, you can . thank you very much for your explanations. i think that we will continue the conversation with you there next programs because you are doing an extremely important thing and occupy an extremely important public position from the point of view that it should be done qualitatively and quickly on a larger scale

. the results of this day and more international and economic news further on vasyl zimi's great broadcast, so stay tuned to the espresso channel. thank you to his guests, the great broadcast continues for the next hour on you yuriy fizers will be waiting, the world about ukraine, oleksandr marchenko will tell about the fact that there is money in every sport from evgeny pastukhov and the weather with natalka didenko , wait just now about the most important news at this hour, i will tell you in detail the russians killed an 18-year-old boy in the dnipropetrovsk region he was injured during the enemy shelling of the mezhiv community , doctors tried to save his life for several hours, but failed. the head of the region, serhiy lysak, told four more people about this wounded among them, a two-year-old girl , a farm caught fire from shelling, an enterprise , the armed forces of ukraine are strengthening their positions in