[000:00:00;00] on the island, what actions can a person be held responsible for, first of all, it is necessary to move away from the understanding that some categories fall under collaborative responsibility, that is, some professions, some occupied positions there, and so on, criminal responsibility in our country is individual and, for example, one teacher can be subject under collaborative activity, another teacher cannot. that is, we should not think in categories . what, for example, all teachers are collaborators, and all plumbers are there residential and operational the office is not a collaborator, because once again i will say that it is necessary to evaluate subjectively the actions of one or another person, the actions that fall under collaborative activity in our country

are clearly provided for in article 111, there are as many as seven types of different activities and different actions that face collaborationism as a problem regarding crimea and this article is that the article was adopted in the spring of 22, but unfortunately it did not take into account the long-term occupation of the crimean peninsula, that is, for the most part, it was, in my opinion, aimed precisely at discouraging the desire of the citizens of ukraine to the territories that were occupied after february 22 , after february 24

, i apologize, 2022 discourage cooperation with the aggressor. approach to this article, then most of the residents of crimea will fall under the influence of this article, but time , in principle, puts everything in its place, we developed such priorities with the help of which we were able to single out that an activity that really falls under the scope of collaboration, i will give an example of the most controversial thing that is contradictory, which was the rule 4/4 of article 111 of primudin, this is the illegal transfer of material resources to the armed formation of the e-e and the implementation of economic activity, it was the implementation of economic activity that scared people the most, because in essence every crimean businessman who pays taxes and receives there permits, licenses

, etc. from the occupation administration can be considered to be carrying out economic activities in cooperation with the aggressor state and illegal authorities, but we have built such a priority for ourselves that the participants in our criminal proceedings are only those businessmen who voluntarily and directly cooperate with the state occupier, with the occupation administration, the armed forces, that is, when the businessman supplies video surveillance equipment to the fsb or when other services are provided , the ministry of internal affairs of their republic of crimea and so on, that is, when there is direct cooperation , when businessmen supply for the fulfillment of defense orders, supply some products there, the armed forces are in disarmament and so on, that is, in principle, the security service has taken it into its own work, and we, as it were, made

such a filter so that we do not have cases when there are formally private dental clinics that pay taxes are worn out to do this in order to to survive er so that no one will accuse her er that they are collaborators although again i repeat formally these actions also fall under the signs of a crime but there is such a concept in the criminal code as er insignificance i.e. although the activity contains signs of one or another component of the crime, but due to its insignificance and the absence of socially dangerous consequences from such actions, this is this action is not considered a crime, therefore for ourselves we have developed the priority that i am telling you about if we talk about economic activity er, with other parts of this article, it is easier er, all appointments to leadership positions in occupied government bodies are collaborationism

, all appointments in law enforcement, judicial bodies of the occupation power are collaborationism , there are public calls for objections of russian aggression, calls for aggression , and so on and so on , this is collaborationism. propaganda in educational institutions is collaborationism, and so on . that is, year after year , no one changed the article. they just lived as they had lived before to worry about it . there is nothing to worry about, only those who cooperate directly with the bodies of the occupying power, were part of this occupying power or law enforcement judicial bodies or

i know who too actively expressed his pro-russian positions in public aydar. you have a question that concerns the first thesis of kupan igor noted that we will not be judged by profession, but by the activity of a specific individual person, nevertheless, how to be with journalists and the tree, tell me in a little more detail. yes, thank you for the opportunity to ask this question directly to mr. prosecutor p. yury is here as journalists. well, in my opinion, it is a little easier than other specialties, because there are people who went to cooperate deliberately for the benefit occupation authorities, and i will even give an example, he is very close to us. but as for the kremlin, i first of all want to punish the people who betrayed ukraine, who are also representatives of my people. well, i want them to

be punished first of all, because for me whose double betrayal is i, well, personally, for me, for all of us, and i have an example and leave, of course , you know about such a channel, the milet tv channel , which was supposed to take the place of the atr tv channel, which , well, was actually expelled, actually expelled , deported to crimea, and there are many such people there not many, because there are at least 10 such people whom we know, ira mambetav, this is a person who, after the russian occupation authorities banned the rtr tv channel because we did not want to raise the flag of the russian federation, he said good. and he headed then in the 15th year the so-called tv channel of miletus, he quoted there for 10 years. that is, it is not just somehow there. he, er, accidentally got on this

facade, no. and this tv channel, er, he was supposed to be a replacement in their opinion they appropriated the broadcasting frequency of the rtr tv channel rtr, they appropriated millions of equipment, well, at least the games are so accurate . i think that there can be no hryvnia . he was a shell-shocked mambetok, he signed documents about the embezzlement of other people's property, and he did all this not for the benefit of some private tv channel, often for the benefit of the commander's, which is actually a show that continues to this day, there is a new one editor and this editor, this first collaborator, so who used to be, he seems to be the head of the crimean

tatar editorial office of the crimean state television, he is now , maybe you will be surprised, but he is now in the united states, he is now, and you know. you better tell it, he pretends to be a refugee from the war, he tells his so-called colleagues that he is there. he found a way to escape and avoid responsibility, but what will actually happen to such people, and can we demand forced return of such persons to ukraine people like sira manditok who openly and sincerely cooperated with the occupiers in the field of propaganda , that is, well, propaganda is an internationally recognized category of things with those crimes, including war crimes, mr. igor, i would like to speak to you about journalists in general and specifically about this case, specifically about

this case and the activity of the mili channel in our country is the subject of a criminal investigation precisely for collaborative activity , since the implementation of information activities in cooperation with the aggressor state is a cooperative activity, the channel knows well, we all know and have seen their reports and stories and so on , that is, no one here has any doubts about the fact that this is a propaganda channel, therefore , criminal proceedings are, accordingly, regarding this person who changed clothes in in the air and is in such an unpopular place for russians in the western world, there are also criminal proceedings and measures to bring this person to

criminal responsibility are also being taken by us. criminal proceedings regarding , in principle, journalistic activity , uh , there is a problem. in principle, what is the problem with the article about collaborative activity? the article of collaborative activity, in fact, many of those actions that are now called collaborative activities previously , in one way or another, formally fell under the signs of article 111 under the signs of high treason, and here in the circles of lawyers such questions arise that before, this or that activity

did not lead to treason , now it leads to criminal responsibility, it is such a legal member. it's just journalistic activity, if it's not a propagandist. if it didn't harm ukraine in any way, then uh, say again that all journalists , all teleporters, all employees who work there on the milet channel, are they collaborators or state traitors? we can't, but we can be specific the persons who were responsible for the editorial policy of the channel, who gave instructions to set some stories, what should be the information content of the channel's information activities, and so on , they will definitely be held responsible for that, if it were to once again

categorically say that all journalists in crimea are criminals they can't because we have to as the prosecutor's office we have to evaluate the actions of each individual first understand what he did if this action falls under the signs of a crime we have to investigate and our task is to prove that this person really committed a crime. we cannot, based on assumptions or for example, say that all criminals, since they were all in the crimea , they all worked on the channel, the indictment must clearly contain who did what action and what he did. well, in that case we miss the fact that there is journalism in crimea, which is honestly a bit of an oxymoron for me, because , unfortunately, mykola semena or iryna danylovych are exceptions. these are either community journalists or

journalists who cooperate there with adequate global ukrainian media, and everything else is we have to admit that crimea 24 and many other local media are essentially daughters of russian tv channels, and this is not journalism - this is essentially a propaganda activity, a propaganda machine, that's why , here we must really be very careful when considering each individual participant in this process because so that we do not simply rely on the condemnation of people who, with their faces and their mouths, denied the existence of the ukrainian state, i'm sorry, and supported the russian aggression, but these are also the cogs in this system. this is also very important history and it will be necessary to actively investigate. to be honest, i can't even imagine how many people we will need to involve in order to qualitatively check uh and hmm to carry out such

filtering measures in a healthy good sense when we are talking about the crimean peninsula, have assessments already been carried out, how many employees will we need law enforcement agencies and special services for this purpose in advance preparing for reintegration processes in crimea, we calculated approximately my responsibility now is only for the prosecutor's office the number of prosecutors needed there in the offices of the prosecutor's office of the crimea in the district prosecutor's offices in accordance with the administrative territorial division that uh-uh is now uh-huh that is, we understand how many employees of the sbu are needed there, the police officers of the state bureau of investigation cannot answer for them , but we need a sufficient number of them because you correctly said that there will be a lot of work in crimea because of the nine years of occupation, filtering measures must be

carried out in fact with everyone so that you and i not after we return to crimea, we did not get a knife in the back, no, the history of february 20, february 2014 did not repeat itself, the history of february 22, 2014, did not repeat itself. that is, all the guilty must be identified and punished, all the innocent, and the integration processes are not actually noticed. must but in order to establish whether or not another person, accordingly , filtering measures must be carried out, investigations must be carried out and people then get a legal opportunity to defend those who are guilty and calm down and will have

uh, a legal argument that will allow them to say that during the occupation of crimea , they did not commit a crime either against ukraine or against ukrainian citizens, mr. prosecutor. there are professions to judge a person's activities, but journalists. it's either journalists - it's in quotes, it 's a little easier because well, for example, if you wrote about plants, or there was a children's magazine, they published a magazine in which there were no russian flags there were no appeals there. it’s just there, i don’t know. there’s an apple in a watermelon , etc. there, what’s it called, that’s one thing, but what concerns the political, er, journalist, only here, everything is obvious, for example, on the conditional channel, the client is part of just propaganda, it’s a small department it is very easy for our viewers to understand all this, including the same operator, and the same from the director to

the operator, they also contributed to the propaganda of the so-called elections, including in the election putin on the territory of the entire crimea, they did not just help, but they actually promoted some ideas there, they took part in propaganda in specific measures that were against ukraine, directed against its territorial integrity, etc. i think that here if the person was right there if he she was a cameraman, she filmed deliberately, and we do not require any heroism from them, but simply do not do it, it was simple and there was no punishment for this, that is, they voluntarily filmed, showed the cameramen in that village , the so-called journalists and the editor not only there the editor-in-chief is guilty well, in my opinion well, i think that there should be an investigation appropriate for each person, mr. prosecutor, the general concept of a crime in the criminal code assumes that this

act is committed uh-uh, intent, yes, that is, we should uh-huh uh-uh our connection is interrupted with the prosecutor , the head of the prosecutor 's office of the autonomous republic of crimea, the city of sevastopol, ihor ponotochovny, is talking to us , mr. ihor, you were interrupting us about the fact that when we see a news anchor other than 24 , for example, who is telling her propaganda it seems to us that this is a crime, but our task as e.e. law enforcement officers as bodies of justice is to prove that the person did it on purpose , that is, she was aware of the content of her actions and the legal consequences of what a sprint we are in crimea during the time when i work, for example, in the prosecutor's office of crimea, we very often

faced with the fact that people say that there is a scoundrel, you don't punish him, i always told people that not all the negative phenomena that we see happening in crimea are unfortunately covered by the criminal code and what seems to us absolutely obvious to er the prosecutor, when the prosecutor sits down to write out procedural documents, in which it is necessary to indicate the time and place when the person committed this crime, the moment when he had a crime, on this notebook, confirm that the person really had a crime to commit this or that crime. we need to prove it with concrete evidence, and you will understand that without access to the territory of this region, it is extremely difficult to prove, for example, well, now i set myself the task of proving what the presenter

of news on the krym 24 channel intentionally carried out information activities in cooperation with the aggressor state we must prove that this person had the opportunity to refuse there, she did not do it there and that she intentionally made appeals there and so on and so on similar, that is, not everything is as simple as it seems to us, as it seems to us, i would like it if there was such an opportunity that we could collect all the propagandists in one car and send them to the red map, it would be much easier, but we are a civilized european the state in which the rule of law is reaffirmed in the constitution, moreover, i would like to remind you that even if we want to make changes to the ukrainian legislation, according to the constitution, let's say, they don't have to quote now, i'm sure i won't remember it from memory, there is no retroactive effect in time, thank you very much mr. prosecutors, that is, yes, there are certain problems

, we have literally one minute left there, p igor and if a person deliberately went to rallies in 2014 , supported the russian federation in a-and there, i do not know the teachings of alladia, which can be qualified as collaborationist, but enlightened at the age of 22 she said what did i do and realizes that she no longer wants to be part of this system i understand that this is no excuse and that prosecution should still be but can such a person mitigate the circumstances and that she for this, he can do a short, sincere repentance , there is an active contribution to the solution of the crime.

defense of ukraine will help in the process of deo er-e the court can be recognized as extenuating circumstances, that is, if we put it in the list in the criminal code, it is not excluded, the court can er-e pay attention to this, and assistance to the defense forces can also be recognized as mitigating circumstances so let them repent for now and help each other, we will figure it out later. thank you very much for this conversation. we talked somewhere about what hurt us and thank you for the answers to the questions. i think that the inhabitants of the peninsula who are watching us kept these answers now they will know what to expect, at least ihor ponochev, the head of the prosecutor's office of the autonomous republic of crimea and the city of sevastopol was in touch with us, ayder muzhdabaev, i thank you for, as always, a beautiful broadcast and we continue to talk about

crimea in our next programs, andriy takes it together yanitsky with economic news on espresso as usual in the morning after the news at 8:10 live, we are working with you if you watch us on youtube, please like, send the link to your friends and family and do not forget to comment on this issue i will return after the program and discuss with you in the comments, this is definitely part of our program to improve defense capabilities, the government allocated more than 1 billion uah for the development of the northeastern regions of ukraine, kharkiv oblast will receive 911 and a half million, and chernihiv 363 million uah. the funds will go to equipping the military engineering fortification structures, as well as people or houses affected by russian attacks

will be able to apply for compensation, we have launched the second stage of the program, which is restoration we are talking about compensation for completely destroyed housing, due to actions, ukrainians have already submitted 1,400 relevant applications for compensation at the same time 36,000 citizens have applied for compensation to repair their damaged housing, 7,000 people have already received funds for such repairs and rebuilding their own homes, the railway will help ukraine export grain this fall the latvian railway is engaged in the transportation of ukrainian grain, the management of the carrier company has so far been skeptical about this issue, believing that in industrial it is impossible to do on a large scale, however, now technologies have advanced and the possibilities of logistics and transshipment have developed , experts note, so it is predicted that approximately

500,000 to even one million tons of our grain will be transferred through latvia in a year, but now we have mr. serhiy pozniak, head of the association of veteran entrepreneurs, we will talk about the business climate in ukraine, how business fights against corrupt officials, raiders , and officials and fights against the pressure of the authorities. good morning, i'm so glad to see you, tell me first about yourself, about the association of e-e veteran entrepreneurs, what do you do, who is involved in it, how big is the organization , see the association, it is an all-ukrainian organization e-e, it is a platform that ensures the rapid development of veteran businesses united by e-e general values, this is an organization that is called, first of all , to reintegrate veteran entrepreneurs who are now

fighting, and in general, veterans back into society, because business is a powerful tool and a powerful way for those those who are now fighting have returned to society, especially veterans - they are such a powerful force that is able to move the economy of ukraine and restore it. well, actually , i believe that the business elite was formed from veterans to develop and support veteran businesses. hmm, there are a lot of veterans in the war, there is a study by the ministry of veterans of the ukrainian veterans fund , which examines the employment category of active servicemen, in fact , entrepreneurs are now entrepreneurs. in the trenches, there is more of everything, according to a study of people who are engaged in business this is an absolutely glacial position and those who are now protecting

business and protecting our country - these are mostly entrepreneurs, so they will now return, we need to protect their interests, we provide it on our own and educational programs, there is a special financing program for veteran businesses, we actively cooperate with the government on the creation of programs to support veteran entrepreneurship and the development of veteran entrepreneurial initiatives. it seems to me that ukrainians are mostly an entrepreneurial nation, even if you have not yet created your business, then i think that every ukrainian is constantly spinning in his head some ideas on how to improve his life and treats his life like such a business project, and even if he works as an employee, he still treats responsibly your work is so good and it would be appropriate to paraphrase here a little to engage in advertising, er, to say that we also have a business program with andrii yanitsky, we

talk with entrepreneurs there on the espresso youtube channel, search for this program and i was rejected i'm coming back from you, serhiy. i know that you are one of the initiators. well, you are also a public speaker of the initiative of 42 companies . manifesto 42 is called forbes. the business publication wrote about you. well, many other publications also wrote about you. that's why the anecdotes, let's tell you what kind of manifesto this is, why did the campaign unite around one goal, well, look at the manifesto 42 - it's not only the number of the company, it's 42, it's an article of the constitution of ukraine on freedom of entrepreneurship. well, why? well, it turned out yes. why was this manifesto created, because, well, business, and it's no secret , because of which, lately

, there has been unprecedented pressure from the state, from the side of law enforcement agencies, and this pressure has already become such that well, we thought about it before that said that a lot of businessmen are fighting and why are we fighting where are we going to return we will return to the country where business will be to create e-e favorable conditions for e-e companies the economy of the country was developing, recovering, and at first, if the initiative had come from the unions, there were several meetings, conversations with leading business committees, the federation of employers of ukraine, our association of entrepreneurs, training, seo club, and so it was