[000:00:00;00] and on the one hand, it is really like the classics, because it is not a zloty, comparing all the gold against freedom, it is just a swamp, but only now, when they try to subjugate us again, not metaphorically, but literally, when they try

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global. and now we will start looking at it all from the middle of the country. igor congratulations congratulations let's start with the fact that irina vyraschuk was so publicly instructed by the government to voice what was already obvious to many and even in the deep rear that 2-3 weeks as uncle arestovych said, it's not like that it will turn out that this is a long distance and here not only the army but also the ukrainian society and the economy and so on must be endured . what kind of paradigm shift is it? basically , politicians and rulers were born precisely in this white people on the crimean coast and up to such

a chilling informational shower performed by mrs. varashchuk well, i think on the one hand it is a recognition of reality and an understanding that the situation is really long-term and it is necessary to prepare for this war in a slightly different way and me but me it seems that the key point here is another point, and society simply made its own conclusions a long, long time ago and perfectly understands how long the war will last, and the authorities told slightly different things, and this non-coincidence led to the fact that well, i just had to react because the questions asked by citizens or leaders of public opinion, of whom there are many of us, who, in principle , are enough, well, they actively raise these problems in the public sphere . well, they forced the authorities to react in some way. part of the responsibility for inflated expectations or for the inconsistency in the fact that they tell the real state of affairs from the screens of individual tv channels well, what ms. varishchuk chose seems to me to be not a random story. she

has made several posts recently, all of them were of such a rather controversial nature, but they attracted attention because of it , they probably tested this reaction somewhere, they looked at how citizens react to certain statements well, if the government has drawn the right conclusions for itself, i would like to believe that certain actions should also begin accordingly changes, including personnel, of such a nature, not only the attitude there to the war, but also to the understanding of what you actually say , there should be signs signs signs we are also looking at signs signs if it is iryna vereshchuk , she is entrusted with such an information well if you are cool to do it means that the announcement that the minister of defense will be changed and that the next minister of defense must be a woman , is it iryna vereshchuk, or should we still consider a candidate from the party of dangerous intellectuals, because maryana wrote bluntly that there is one woman who could head the ministry of defense and

put a smiley face and that's how we concentrate on the stage of a person who in this case should be just a brilliant professional and in addition should be in a good connection with the commander-in-chief of the armed forces. well , look here, there are two points: what ms. vyryshchuk writes about it and then she wrote to things that she does not apply for the position of minister , well, that's all the words, everyone perfectly understands that she wanted this position a long, long time ago and she competed for it as to how she got the position that she holds today and dispersed certain companies and well tried to agree there and in the president's office so that this candidacy was considered as the main one in relation to gender, this is a very strange approach . from the point of view of remuneration of many other things, no one rejects it, well, any person who knows the real situation there or on the labor market or elsewhere, he knows that these problems exist, but in this particular case, it is precisely

the sharpening of attention to that factor from the side representatives of the authorities looks like a certain smoke screen. yes, let's talk about it, first of all, discuss this issue, and not really talk about communication , about the relevant competencies, and a very important point. it seems to me that the person who is applying for this position, and judging by everything, the minister of defense really are going to change her, if she comes from some other position, she must demonstrate effective results, yes, in the position she held until today. if we remember the names of all those people about which you spoke, ms. vyryshchuk and ms. bezugluto. it seems to me that they can boast of some significant results in their positions. well, to put it mildly, they cannot , on the contrary, there are many questions, these questions are very acute in nature, for which there are basically no answers. but i think that this topic with this gender principle will be discussed in the future and we will also speak, well, in quotation marks, of course

, we will submit some commitments that we have made to our partners regarding gender diversity, and the representation of women, including in power. and what are you doing? sir, you are saying that a person who is applying for a new position and in the fall was promised to the government that he should have an impeccable result at the previous place of work. it seems to me that such a principle did not work. look at the ukrainian ambassador to slovenia, so the ex-minister of defense he i am talking about the option that should be for a country that is in a state of war with a very serious enemy, it is clear that most likely we will see a candidate there as to which , on the contrary, there will be a lot of comments and these remarks and in general, any claims will be a very good hook that will allow this person in this position to simply manage, manipulate and so on, but i would like to believe that, after all, this is, you know , an extremely public and weighty position as

the minister of defense, well, for this position it will at least minimally meet some criteria that are normal and generally accepted for a developed democratic country, otherwise, well , listen, it seems to me that it can work from the point of view of the purpose, but it is definitely not will lead to an improvement in the attitude of citizens in general towards the ministry and towards that person, and the issues will only increase. that is, they will not become fewer and let out a couple that someone is counting on in power, that is, in such a way that we change someone for someone else, well, it will not work, it will be problematic, only an aggravation. i am really silent about communication with the general staff . logically, it should be a person now, let him be free. well, because it is written in our law, but a person who has a personal , including a personal connection with our commander-in-chief and know perfectly well the situation in the army in principle and knows the needs that the armed forces currently have. and

by the way, such people are simply these people . with a specific plan and they will say that we will carry out this plan. and many will not like this plan because it will not involve raising millions for drones, while the government simply does not fulfill these tasks in an elementary way , and the citizens collected it in two days, but it arises a simple question. why can’t such an amount be taken from the state budget? what’s the problem if the money is actually there, especially since some projects of a cultural and artistic nature were canceled and the money was saved ? thank you for the analysis of difficult political games in a country that is discussing elections wars, these are the personnel changes ihor reytirovovych, head of political and legal programs of the ukrainian center for social development, and now, traditionally , yehor checherinda, the host of the espresso tv channel from the ukrainian capital, will appear on our screens and

uh, what a conversation, together with yevgenia kravchuk, people's deputy of ukraine, yehor vita, i pass the floor to congratulations to khrystyna. well, i will say that yesterday in the converse exhibition center park, there was a greyhound party organized by the office of the ukrainian vice prime minister for european integration, olga stefanyshina, ukraine on the way to of the european union, during this apron , the main difficult points that exist on this path were discussed. european union regarding accession well, in december, the leaders of the european union countries themselves will meet. well, during this meeting, ukraine hopes to get some time intervals and dates for its full accession. i will remind you that while ukraine is a candidate for membership in the european union, and now about the consequences and the main points of this apron

, let's talk with yevgenia kravchuk, she is the deputy head of the servants of the people faction in the ukrainian parliament, well, the main let's say that the european integrator is precisely all the powerful the presidential team, the parliamentary team, i mean the team. madam, i congratulate you. please tell me the main points that were discussed yesterday at this potato. well, the main problems that we have to solve by october and by december, in particular, please. of course, the intervals are the start of the official negotiation procedure and they will open already there will be negotiation groups in 35 different sections on different topics. and now ukraine is completing self-fining - if you translate it from english to ukrainian , we are actually checking ourselves as we already are implemented there according to the association. what legislation was adopted, that is, how did we parallel

the european legislation, but they are seven of these steps. well, this was our political commitment, we have now fully fulfilled it by 100%, two steps - this is media reform, i actually just sang the author the law on media and the changes to the advertising legislation were fully calculated and the judicial block . and it is important for us, not only for europe, to restore the declaration. the verkhovna rada voted in the first reading about five hundred amendments were submitted by various colleagues from different factions. i hope that in september we will be able to vote in the second reading. the anti-corruption policy committee will work there. i will clarify. the biggest question was how to declare military personnel. well, not all military personnel are declared, only those who

, for example, held positions, he was a judge now. is there any other declarant fighting there? let's say they won't be declared , but then all these positions will still be subject to declaration after the end of martial law, so that there are no such gaps, and this will be a point of discussion. which we will discuss with the european commission and especially with the polish commissioner for enlargement this is a law about us minorities, we have made changes to the already adopted one, we have taken into account the comments and conclusions of the venice commission, but the implementation process is still going on. grants will be issued there above the diminutive that is, well, we show this process. but again, ukraine's position is that the ukrainian language is the state language - it is mandatory to master it and, well, conditionally, children who are somewhere in transcarpathia or in chernivtsi

with a romanian woman are studying hungarian, and they must have a sufficient level of the ukrainian language in order to then, for example, enter kyiv for higher education and not budapest . well, about us men - this is one of the eight points , the eighth point is called electronic declaration of the return of wealth, in fact, in the eighth point, the requirements and what about kso? so when in we will be fully appointed by the chairman of the constitutional court at your request. for this, the legislation with the new rules must be fully operational, in fact with the ones that we agreed with the european union with the venezuelan commission, again, we accepted it literally. it seems to me that this was two meetings ago the changes are already being finalized before the second reading, and this point will be fully implemented, and then there will be just regular elections, and judges should

be elected there with this commission in the composition that we agreed with the western partners, and... is the chairman of the constitutional court is elected from among the members of the constitutional court itself, that is, they elect him themselves, but in the end all vacant positions must be filled. and the declaration is, after all, included in the anti-corruption clause. that's why it's me. i just read many analysts who wrote that this is the eighth additional clause that we we also received a declaration recently, in principle, it was simply the way it was always perceived, it was always there and only during the war, because of the war , because of the active phase, in february, well, at the beginning of march. we actually stopped it during the martial law and now we are returning it, well, there seems to have been an obligation, turn here, to return it by august 1, if i am not mistaken, today is our 18th, if i am not mistaken. and when will there be a second reading and a second vote in the whole nation? i hope that by the end of

september we will finish it the fact is that some points overlap with the imf memorandum, that is, precisely what concerns peppy until august 1, and so on, therefore, precisely on the track with the european union. well, we are not late, but on the track with the imf, in principle, they see that it is not just there there is a desire to return a's declaration the draft law has already been voted on in the first reading, it was voted on, if i am not mistaken, one vote was not enough for the constitutions, so it will be difficult for colleagues from some i do not know rude factions to then say no, we changed our mind in the second reading , we will not vote what do you think the ukrainian government and ukrainian citizens will hear or should hear from our partners and europeans at this summit of the heads of state of the european union, which will take place in december. this is the beginning

of the negotiations. my colleagues receive in brussels what kind of political decision, well, it will obviously be made, but of course under conditions if we do not slow down the pace now, because actually the ambassador of the european union said yesterday that ukraine is showing very fast movement if you look at how other countries have understood that they well, we could take our time, it's uh, well, in principle, it's an existential choice and actually our survival. so, the faster uh, to integrate into the civilized space , develop all the connections with the russian world, and so on, and it's obvious that if in december will start this is a decision on the start of negotiations, then it is already, especially, on the government, there will be such a big responsibility for negotiations, because there are such moments, for example, in agrarian business, ukraine is different from poland in terms of its structure of agrarian business, for example, that is why we have eyes, you see there, they are afraid

our exports, because there are small entrepreneurial farms. they are not so competitive. unfortunately or fortunately , but nevertheless, these large agro-chondria , what volumes are they, well, now they say that there are ukrainian from ukrainian grain it depends whether there will be food in africa or not, but small countries, especially our neighbors, will be worried there. first, it’s grain , then there are some strawberries, and so on, so ukraine’s task is to preserve the best conditions for our exporters again there will be a question about, for example, wood and the export of unprocessed wood, this is a very question that anyone who has been to the carpathian forest at least once will think about. should i accept this? i am the only advice. well, when we are talking not about the export of wood or grain, but the project

sports products with added value, do you already understand some pasta or some furniture, because we are a third world country, unfortunately, well, this is another question that is very broad. i also wanted to ask you about safety. literally, in the last few days, a number of countries have joined the guarantee, including for ukraine, which provided provided to ukraine by the g-7 group of countries during the vinnytsia summit of this country, the baltic states and bulgaria and macedonia 15 countries have already joined these 17 have already corrected me on what kind of security guarantees this gives us, concretely, realistically of security is it just purely decorative things on paper, please let's say this is the way to avoid being declarative . because what is a declaration of jaysoven ? we will not think. it will be there for 6 months and then

the government will change and another government will win and everything and everything is gone, but what is there after that? what will be the next step? great britain, there are france. well, with other countries that joined this agreement, there should be specifics. hmm, for example, this war ends there, but another putin comes with other imperial visions and wants to attack ukraine again, so each country is in its obligations. already a legal obligation says that we will be weapons. well, we can't have weapons , so we will give money, that is, all that we are doing now is simply, well, calling and communicating, everything will be spelled out, for example, as in the united states, in each of their military budgets there is aid israel is in everyone, regardless of republicans, democrats, israel is always there, we see how they intervene in taiwan and say that we will be there on this side. and

then we will be sure, having these obligations , that when some candidate wins there in the elections, then well, i didn't cross it out because it's an institutional obligation , it's a country's obligation. well, i can't help but ask about the last one. well, let's say a media scandal or scandal regarding the statement of one of the american officials, which was exaggerated by westerners and ukrainians the media reported that ukraine could be granted membership in nato in exchange for giving up certain occupied territories, well, now everything is being refuted, with the statement that they misunderstood, but it was similar to the fact that this is a trial bullet in society and to see how it will all react both in ukrainian society and in western society. how do you assess the consequences? was it really such an ipso fact? is it just an information error, please ? actually

, this gentleman. nato this is from the office of the head of the head of nato and he said that it was a mistake to say it publicly and to speak like that, so it is very important that there is such a reaction from ukraine and from our other partners who know this, just be on the hands, because when they said in vain that the fall will be difficult, and well, when i communicate, well, let's say that ofrek is no longer, and no one on the camera declares this . of course, the question comes up from time to time. ukrainians are not ready to say that we are there we will cut off some part of our country, well, this will mean that russia will simply return, so it was with georgia, so it was with crimea, and so we see now that it is necessary to fully restore the territorial integrity, but it is clear that this must be reinforced by the power of the armed forces and victory on the field thank you yevgenia kravchuk thank you now again we very much hope that all

ukrainian borders will be restored in the near future ukraine in its entirety will join the north atlantic alliance well then it already receives any guarantees of security within nato thank you yevgenia i pass on the floor please khrystyna romana thank you egor and i will tell you right away khrystyna, you, in general , that we once conducted such a provocative survey in various cities and in sevastopol on our provocative question what to do next in ukraine it was for mood and for mood, we asked if there is any intention in ukraine to join the north atlantic alliance now or to enter the direction, everyone said it was the 11th year and everyone said so what is nato only all true atlantic alliance so as yehor, actually, we have finished our conversation . thank you, it’s shorter. we thank yevhenia kravchuk and thank you to the seagull novel for your attention. we are passing on the furrows of the board to our

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