[000:00:00;00] i will not indicate any figures, but it is a significant number of thousands so that you and i would understand why. well, look, khrystyna says that even within the framework of these security guarantees , there are various aids. well, we could take a profile there. france or there they have the international continent, legions and so on have experience , well, in my opinion, it is more difficult for them to take on what a profile ukrainian state should do than , for example, to put pressure on the government in general so that it does at least this according to this logic as you already mentioned ex-minister lyudmila spruny, who simplified the entire bureaucracy and all these stupid things, it can be easier to press so that i don't know, other anti-corruption bodies stopped you at the very beginning of the torpedoing, we

understand that everything is but someone interferes or stops or cares about such state programs and therefore they fall on the shoulders of individuals, organizations of foundations or other countries, maybe you have to go from the other side, click just maybe, i just want to add another very important thing, you mentioned that it would be good if i took some kind of state, our guys are on recovery yes, but there is such a very important point that recovery in time is very good, it can be six months, a year, and sometimes even longer, if we are talking about prosthetics, this is a completely different story , because the protest is widespread - you need to be careful, adjust , follow, and so it is it is impossible to send our soldier to the states for prosthetics and he will return later and someone here has to watch over it well, after all, i think that we should develop the only thing that

would be great if, well, the help would be good from europe or from the states. yes yaropolk, thank you for this inclusion and thank you for the work that you do, first of all, which is extremely important and very difficult because , well, you know, you can get a person out of the war , but you can get the war out of the person. it seems to me that it is many times more difficult . physical therapist of the medical center of physical therapy and pain medicine and the new senior combat medic was in touch with us well, we remind you what we are saying .

excuse me, seven as of now, we have information about the dead and about 90 people were injured, among the dead and wounded there are children, and of course we are talking about a certain event that was held in this location, and there are a lot of different thoughts on the topic of whether it was actually the motive is the cause of the enemy strike in this sense. well, in addition to that, it is the center of chernihiv during the holiday . in order to actually establish not only the destruction as such, but also the victims, that's how it is. likewise , they did not go to actually find it under the rubble . so these are not yet final, the numbers may be for a minute, and at the same time, we have information from the center of the national they report to the opposition that

the number of mercenaries of the wagner pvk is being recorded in belarus and this is due to the lack of funding from russia. and the sides of the russian federation, and so part of the mercenaries signed a contract, went to african countries, some went on vacation, but are planning to either transfer to other terrorist structures or to resign in general. in the meantime, the regime of belarus does not yet satisfy the instructors from wagner with its level of payment and services, as a result, most of the instructors do not plan to stay there is a message in the country for a long time. well, it is interesting that you are not talking about this issue , because you are shevchenko, they will go on to steal

diamonds and feel the chinese in central to the african republic, it’s amazing, it’s interesting because the fate of these people is also not enviable. you do understand that during that time they managed to include all the different countries in all the lists of international terrorist organizations, and in this case, stop playing the show and really go to moscow seems to be running away from a problem, as far as i am concerned, that other tracings are not recognized as terrorist by any means, and more and more are the wording international criminal organization, criminal terrorist, completely different stories. well, for example, if the united states the states recognized pvk wagner as a terrorist organization. russia, which actually signed up to finance pvk wagner, at least for a certain period of its history, could be recognized as a sponsor of terrorism, but it is recognized by many countries for whose decisions

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the museum territory of terror jewish ghetto of lviv transformed by the soviet occupiers into a prison with which the path led to the goal of a better example of the symbiosis of two totalitarian regimes . people were also sent to the death camps in golovy, and today , modern ukraine is attacking the regime that became the heir to both of these totalitarian dictatorships , of both of these people on the nazi practices, the road

to auschwitz, the road to the goal leads to deer every week, the saturday political club helps to understand the processes taking place in ukraine and the world. vitaly portnikov, the host of espresso and invitations, experts based on facts give their assessment and forecast of the development of events, you want to understand how our today will affect our tomorrow, see the saturday political club, what saturdays are on espresso well, let's get back to the conversation here with all those crimes, shelling and events, we almost forgot to look at the calendar on the calendar august 19 and it's not only a holiday , it's also memories, very interesting memories that we let's actually ask him to remind us, share and look at it all in a new way. our new

guest is the people's deputy of many convocations , or five convocations, taras stetskiv , please contact us, mr. taras. glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes. good day. well, what's up? the kcp started on the 19th. for three days, they tried to retain power over the constitutional body instead of president mikhail gorbachev. we always looked at it differently these days. when you come here, you remember these attempts on television. has to read, but i wanted to read, but first of all, they themselves said what it was and how it is read and echoed in a new way with today, well, the events of those times , of course, were deeply etched, although more than 30 years have passed, almost every day between 19 and 24

on august 19, between the day of the beginning of what was the state of emergency and the declaration of independence. it was all crammed into one week. august 19, 1991 fell on a monday. and already on saturday the 24th, independence was voted for, and of course, in these seven the other day you focused on the whole well struggle in modern times since the end of the 80s, for the ukrainian state, tuesday seemed to be the most difficult day. because on monday, when the swan lake played in the morning and it became clear that something was wrong in moscow, the day went only to somehow get together and with to go to kyiv because, well, we deputies of the lviv oblast, it was a weekend, we returned home to lviv on sunday, and on tuesday, in any case, we should still return to kyiv. here, however, the

hccp led to the fact that already around the 11th it is possible and faster in the lviv regional council there was a meeting of the deputies of the verkhovna rada, those who arrived, and the deputies of the regional council. and already on tuesday, the meeting of the people's council of the parliamentary opposition began from the very morning, which actually lasted with breaks all day, and it was on tuesday that few people remember it now, when the fate of the state of emergency did not hang in the balance like it did on the second day, wednesday, tuesday, it still seemed that there would be an assault on anyone and there would be a resolution in moscow very quickly, this issue was resolved only in i want the night from tuesday to wednesday to say that the key decision was taken , the key decisions that later led to the e-e declaration of independence were taken

exactly on tuesday separately, first at a meeting of the people's movement of ukraine and later at a meeting of the people's council, since the people's movement was a public organization that was its own and was the main driver of the struggle for independence , the people's council was the parliamentary opposition there, in fact, with interruptions, and the people's movement and the people's council later on tuesday, feeling the culmination of the moment, made a decision about to demand from the members of the supreme council, which consisted of a majority of communists, to convene an extraordinary or extraordinary session of the verkhovna rada with the sole task of declaring the independence of ukraine, and when on wednesday in the afternoon it became clear that the communist party failed ingloriously, only this motivated the then communist majority well, what's more kravchuk to call the prizids on thursday , that is, they resisted in every way and waited, and

it's enough to look even at the interviews that the chairman of the verkhovna rada kravchuk gave in monday and tuesday well, he seemed not to notice what was happening and was telling everyone what was happening in the country and what was in ukraine . everything is going according to plan . last thursday in the very intense harassment of the parliamentary opposition of our people's council to first convene the presidium and later on thursday after an almost five-hour meeting of the presidium of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, which, i remind you, consisted of only seven representatives of the opposition and 15 twice rather, they were representatives of the communist majority, so after a five-hour meeting on thursday, the supreme presidium of the verkhovna rada decided to convene an extraordinary session for saturday, although the communists

insisted for a long time that this session be convened for monday or even tuesday, and i can only imagine how we would then gave in and agreed to their proposal to convene the meeting not on saturday, but on monday, perhaps on monday it would be too late, the window of opportunity opened on friday and saturday while the chaos continued in moscow, while in moscow continued the open struggle for power between yeltsin and gorbachev. ukraine received a narrow window of opportunity into which it actually jumped , and on saturday, august 24, already on monday , tuesday, i want to remind you that on tuesday, after the declaration of independence, an authorized delegation from yeltsin was already on its way to kyiv. leaders from burbulis to refuse us independence and thank you, i believe that at that moment, in those critical days, the parliamentary opposition, and in

the future, and part of the communists, it must be admitted, proved to be at the height of historical moment and were able to find a compromise that many later called rotten because the communists were left in power, but it was necessary to see and know the distribution of forces under different circumstances, it might not have happened. i remember our conversation with you. it seems that it was at the moment when kravchuk died and in fact you then said that this story about how the volynka defeated the komunyak i remembered this thesis very well that's exactly what happened on saturday and actually that's what i wanted to say this moment it was these days then this is the victory move of the volynka over komunyak began in fact, well, it was a long process, i will tell you. so the process of transforming kravchuk from komunyak to volynyak

was long in time, and i can say uh , remembering my last conversations with leonid kravchuk. well, even before his last departure to treatment in germany, i think that this process began immediately after the vilnius events, remember january 13 , 1991, when myrna was shot. plowed and it ended in a stormy evening. a stormy evening or a stormy day. no stormy evening of the 24th year, that is, it is impossible to say that kravchuk suddenly turned into one day. no , he evolved for a long time. of the communist party of ukraine, deep in his soul, he remained a ukrainian, but it

was a opportunistic ukrainianism, it was a opportunistic ukrainianism, it would never have led to his position in favor of independence if it were not for the people's movement of ukraine if it were not for the activities of the parliamentary opposition, if it were not for the continuous rallies under the verkhovna rada and if it were not for the failures of the state of emergency, because the state of emergency did not fail, then i think kravchuk would have ended up somewhere. well, if not on that side of the barrel, then somewhere is clear, but taras is now being followed by what it looks like what in normal countries is called society in the russian federation is simply a mass and a mass of these people. they are very pro-soviet, they are nostalgic to a greater extent, they are nostalgic for their youth, for themselves then, yes, but they want

to return there and uh, judging from today, then, in your opinion, the hccp could have failed , that is , mine. to be honest, a child of the 90s. now there are a few questions: how did they allow this to happen? -e the union was already crumbling before our eyes at that moment, the question of hykachp or not hykachp it was not mine, in my opinion , it was not the cause, but only the pretext, that is, if you want such a trigger, the trigger would not have been heka emergency would have been something else and i will explain its position, for some reason, few people now pay attention to one e-e fact of significance , which from my point of view was key. and i will remind you that during the so-called novogorje process, which gorbachev initiated in order for all the republics of the soviet union to sign the so

-called renewed union treaty the date of signing this new union treaty was set for august 20. that is why the communist party arose on the 19th, the day before that august 20. all the heads of the supreme councils of the republics of the soviet union were supposed to go to moscow or the moscow suburbs here and there were not going to sign a new union treaty. 100% of the baltic republics were not going to go there . the republics in the caucasus were under question, and the question hung only with regard to ukraine. the situation was such that ukraine and kravchuk would not go to the signing of this union treaty. months before that, namely on june 27, 1991, at a meeting of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, which lasted from 10 o'clock in the morning, in my opinion

, until 8 o'clock in the evening, a decision was made for which both the opposition and the communist party voted the majority to postpone the determination of the position regarding the signing or non-signing by ukraine of the new union treaty for three months, so if we count 3 months from june 27 , it turns out which month turns out to be the month of september , and that was the reason. don't go to sign the union treaty and if ukraine does not sign the union treaty, the union would de facto disintegrate and this is exactly what forced the reactionary part of

the leadership of the communist party of soviet union to take this adventurous step of declaring a breakup because gorbachev was no longer in control of the situation , the liberal wing of the communist party withdrew from insisting on a new union treaty, and only the conservative part, which could not , let's say, break gorbachev so that he would force ukraine, decided to remove him and to preserve the soviet union by force, it was an adventure because already, uh, well, starting with the transition that was announced in april 1985 , so it is already the sixth year that the union was falling apart, it was falling apart economically, ideologically, it fell apart as a management model. but in the summer of 1991, he was unable to fully control the majority of national movements in the republics , including in ukraine, and therefore in this case, this desperate step was an attempt to repeat the coups that

took place in the soviet union. after stalin's death, later, when khrushchev was deposed, and later to repeat these blitzkriegs, which the soviet union carried out in czechoslovakia . saw, and that is why it began so ingloriously with flailing hands and ended so quickly and without glory. which falls either on the central committee of the communist party of ukraine or on the volyn land kravchuk even he could have ended up there the entire central committee of the communist party of ukraine then one way or another was on the side of the hekachp , i.e.

acquired sovka. movement to independence, which was then certified through a referendum, then what a sweet one, then in fact for another 10 years, here are these treacherous russian communists, one way or another, in this year , the russians among them were ukrainians who sincerely believed in god, which communists, knowing that those communists of their time and supported them for almost 10 years, then still elected communists of the andes of their vatsov gavrils well, just excuse me, please, i will still react simply uh well, in fact , we all think that the soviet union and its representatives are exclusively some russians delegated from russia who came here the colonizers and so on were in fact ukrainians, we also cannot exclude this either from our history or from our realities, we have half a minute now, i will tell you this, let's tell the truth, as of the summer of 1991 ,

there were hardly any active supporters of independence in ukraine 25% for barely and no more than approximately 60% of the population of ukraine will passively passively influence the flow, they were neither supporters of independence nor supporters of communism, they were simply ordinary people who watched tv in verkhovna and simply watched it. and if you look at the composition parliament, the people's council, which had 125 deputies, the communists had 239, and another 100 communist deputies were neither in the majority nor in the opposition. and at the same time, later in the group of 239, an informal group of sovereign communists, originally belonging to plyushch, who was clearly on our side already in in the 1990s, and later, kravchuk was also dragged, only kravchuk , but late in the morning one foot was there and the second number was there - thank

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