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p.m. most express, thank you for being with us angelica of the onco season is working for you at this hour vitaly portnikov will join in the next please wait, now we will discuss whether the west is still putting pressure on the ukrainian government at the pace of the contouring and we will also discuss the famous scandalous i would say interview of lukashenka the self-proclaimed president and belarus, our compatriots with a pro-russian position, which itself is not against russia probably occupied ukraine and, in principle, that 's what makes money, and you see what kind of compatriots we have

. of parliamentary cooperation with us in the direction of communication and ms. iryna, i congratulate you. good evening to the viewers of espresso, ms. ran . let's start, after all, not with lukashenko's interview, but with the statement of dmytro kuleba, the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, about the fact that he does not feel the ministry and ukraine in general pressure from the west regarding the pace of the counteroffensive regarding a certain truce with the russian federation to sit down at the negotiating table however , it seems to me that when we see certain headlines in the day of the west, for example, according to the washington post, we discussed today in the studios that they say will not succeed until the cold, not a failed counteroffensive is too slow. isn't the counteroffensive a certain pressure, and the first thing from our communication with our international partners, we uh, i'll say frankly, we often hear several questions, and one of them is what ukraine will consider a victory

and it seems to me that it is very important for us to clearly formulate an answer to this question. because only the exit to the borders in 1991. well , really, it can be a prospect of more than one day of the month and even of the year, in my opinion. an important component of the ukrainian victory should be the euro-atlantic integration, which will contribute to the 100% collapse of russia in its current form for us. we need to think about that. so, how to strengthen the sanctions against russia, which today is hiding from these economic sanctions, is very successfully looking for new sales markets there, and therefore has money for the war, and therefore it seems to me that it is obvious that all our partners emphasize that only ukraine will determine when to start negotiations, and only ukraine should determine what constitutes victory for it, but we

well, it seems to me to take into account strategies and tactics and take into account the fact that the world situation definitely changes, unfortunately , while playing in russia, this is also true. because our resources, first of all, human resources , economic resources, they are not comparable and er including the diplomatic strategy of olegov, this should be taken into account, so don’t engage in hat-throwing, because it is striking, it is very dangerous, starting from the marathon, where every day we were told about the two-three-week war over coffee in the crimea, then in in may, then in june. well, ending this with a hat from the representatives of the authorities, mrs. reno, and our western partners with whom you communicate, they ask questions about what concessions we are ready to make, or if we are not ready for anything at all. question well, it seems to me that the question

is: what does ukraine consider a victory and when would ukraine consider it possible to start negotiations ? just what our international partners ask us about. and what we voice to them, and for example , i will say that this hype that arose regarding the statement that was made at the conference by one of the nato officials. it seems to me that it is obvious that no one is saying that ukraine will agree to the surrender of any which territories this is impossible a priori, and it is also impossible to imagine that the world will agree to the recognition of the occupation of crimea, donbas or other territories, but what we need to very clearly appeal to, for example, nato with the demand that the alliance also give we have a list of our obligations that we have to fulfill in order to have a chance to receive an invitation to the washington summit

, this is very important, but we have specific seven points that are necessary for ukraine's membership in the eu, and i, for example, am concerned about the latest statements of the profile vice - the prime minister that it seems that ukraine will not have time to fulfill even it seems to me, on the contrary, that it is fatally important for us to fulfill all the obligations necessary for the start of negotiations regarding the official accession of ukraine to the eu, this is also part of the strategy of our victory, we need to understand what the prerequisites of nato are seen, well, besides, of course, there are safe ones regarding the beginning regarding the possibility of such an invitation to ukraine, but this is what our current powers, diplomats, and authorities should focus on, and not our partners. not the whole world lives by the war in ukraine, not everything revolves around ukraine, and it is dangerous because it is precisely

in india that these countries will gather, which do not belong to the g seven, but to the g20, yes, this is already an expanded circle and which, unfortunately, still do not have joined the sanctions against the russian federation, we see that russia, at the expense of the countries of the global south, is overcoming these er sanctions obstacles of its er very effectively replacing sales markets by finding there how to circumvent er sanctions so that they work for its necessarily industrial well, finding these elements that are needed for the military-industrial complex. this is dangerous and we need to focus on it. it seems to me that otherwise there will be trouble. well, plus , it is very important that we also recalculate our economy and rebuild it on a military basis military rails, this has not happened yet and our partners can also see it. ms. reno, you raised two important questions in your answer, in particular, about the g20

, comprehensively commented on nato's statement, after all, such a new statement appeared that it is allegedly not true, so absolutely so distorted as if such a statement was not heard here, they misunderstood there some kind of apology, and you know, ms. ry , it seems to me that the representatives of the north atlantic alliance will not express their opinion personally, after all, this is you know, there is a certain kind of probing of society's reaction, you know, there is also something else in this statement, i heard it. i think that it really sounded not like a statement, but a retort unsuccessfully expressed at the conference, but for me it is an axiom that education will never recognize the occupation of crimea, donbass, it is impossible if uh, the world is so easy, uh, you know, it allowed itself to agree with the recognition of the occupation of any part of the country

, then it would open pandora's box and unleash wars in many other territories, secondly, it is obvious that ukraine will never trade its territories these are also axioms, but this official is essentially the same. well, this unsuccessful person, let's say frankly, said in response that such a story is possible. it seems to me that for the first time it was said that ukraine can become a member of nato on the condition of occupied territories. and it seems to me that we have to do everything now for that, ukraine received an invitation to join nato on the washington website . unfortunately, none of us can give an answer , really, when we will liberate all our territories. well, we can’t, we’re not military , we’re not equipped with the full range of information we do not understand how the events on the front will develop, because every meter of ukrainian land

is being liberated with great blood and great zeal, and we are grateful to our soldiers who are fighting today in the zaporizhzhia, kherson, donetsk, and luhansk directions , liberating ukraine. but we do not know objectively when it can the entire territory of ukraine should be freed, but if such a remark was made that nato is possible under the conditions of temporary occupation there, i think that we should do everything in order for ukraine to become part of the eu and nato as soon as possible, this will help this will contribute to the understanding of our territories. this is my position. i want to remind you that despite the skepticism of millions of people who did not believe that ukraine could get visa-free in the state of war in donbas , we got visa-free despite the disbelief of many people that ukraine can get the status of a candidate for an eu member we got this status thanks to the great sacrifices of the ukrainian army. i think it was the armed forces of ukraine that convinced

all the european capitals to grant us this status and now we have to focus on the fact that ukraine er-er this chance er-er it is not very big by the way, but it exists, get an invitation to the washington summit, donata used it, it is obvious that we all want our entire territory to be freed , obviously, but i do not belong to those experts and those, well, you know, i don't know, very irresponsible people who are from the president's office on comfortable couches they tell that tomorrow they will drink coffee there in the crimea, not realizing that having never been to the front, i do not know at what price every method of ukrainian land is liberated. i think that the answers to the questions will be to develop counteroffensives have the right to give only our military, only our military leadership and that's why well, i would like very uh, of course we all want everything to be successful

, but counteroffensive is not just that, it's obvious that it's not an easy walk, it's really not that it's not a series and so let's make predictions here, only the military has the right, i don't think that western countries. well, we can talk about disappointment, because again, this is not a show, but these are realistic estimates that everything is not moving so quickly, and i'm sorry. let's ask ourselves the question is, we see that our military is now clashing , key injuries are occurring on the front of the counteroffensive, these are mini injuries, the russians, having occupied the territory, are mining everything densely, they are very seriously building fortifications, has ukraine drawn conclusions from the mistakes of 22nd year? why is the government only now allocating 200 million billion for fortifications constructions in the kharkiv region of chernihiv region along the e-e russian border

, we also have to deal with these. in the last interview, he commented on this very question and stated that russia would never in his life go to the point of returning crimea, but here 's what else he said. returning crimea means that putin is in principle ready to sit down at the negotiating table with regard to other temporarily occupied territories, but not with regard to crimea . what do you think, ah, well, first of all, the illegal president of belarus, who seems to rule belarusians, well, he would think about his country ah, whose citizen he is not, because in fact today there is no independent belarus. it is absolutely. unfortunately , today it is a puppet country, where the russian special services, uh, just uh, i think they control

everything because there is a lot to follow, and this is a bag belarus, this self-proclaimed government is complicit in putin's crimes and lukashenko will be responsible for them . it's obvious. i think he 's spinning like a frying pan, including trying to justify his crimes when he gave the territory to belarus for an offensive for shelling against ukraine is the first, the second, you know in the russian constitution, the so-called yes, there are fixed today there, it seems, its territories, uh, russia for some reason included ukrainian sovereign territories in its constitution, and this is probably the only country in the world with a constitution that has a territory that it does not have, not just relation and has no influence on them, because i want to remind you that the heroic armed forces of ukraine liberated part of kherson oblast

, including kherson, part of donetsk oblast, and they could not occupy it. and by the way, which settlements did russia fail to capture, it is avdiyivka this is maryinka - these are the settlements where, by the way, by the 19th year , sufficiently powerful fortifications were erected , mini fields were laid, and we see that and now it works. therefore, we must draw very important conclusions of these things and strengthen the strengthening of our borders as well as the zaporizhzhia region. that part is indeed under temporary occupation, but the russians lived there and wrote down the entire constitution . therefore, everything putin says does not have any coincidence with reality at all , and we should not pay attention to it but think about our defense and the liberation of the territory, we have good signals from our partners, you know, you started our broadcast with the fact that

how successful the counteroffensive is there , our partners are still thinking about it, i think that the best answer is to supply ukraine with weapons if they do not believe in the strength of the armed forces in professional merit, which today is already fighting with high standards, because we would not have those modern weapons, which, unfortunately, are not being delivered to us as quickly as we would like, and the fact that the united states has already given the go-ahead to sweden and the netherlands for delivery in 16 it is very good signal and i think that the task of all of us, politicians, authorities, diplomats, is to work on strengthening a-a arms supplies to ukraine, this will give a chance to carry out a counteroffensive more effectively, and what’s more , to liberate our territory, but it is very important to develop our pcs ourselves, that’s the last remark , well, this is not normal when the government collects from citizens for drones instead of engaging

in the production of drones for drones you can collect, you know, as a channel, which is a lot , including to support the army, volunteers do it for the government should work on the production politicians over the strengthening of our anti-aircraft missile defense system and the production of our rockets, our shells, and our whipping on the second. this last question looks a little strange from the tone of lukashenka, and mrs. ryno , by the way, he publicly admitted that he is a co-aggressor and stated that he really sent russian troops from the territory of belarus for a full-scale invasion of ukraine, so i understand that we should expect the reaction of the international criminal court in the near future and the issuing of an arrest warrant, or rather for the arrest of lukashenka, not only putin, but first of all, i i think that this interview was intended for a russian audience, one

of putin's listeners, and it was again , you know, an attempt to attract loyalty , because lukashenko is perfectly aware that this is life for him too it is important in his situation to swear infidelity there every day, but at the same time try to somehow avoid certain corners there . and as for the international criminal court , i want to remind you that, unfortunately, putin received an arrest warrant not for the full-scale invasion of ukraine, but specifically for of the episode, for everything, yes, children, yes, and you are absolutely right that both lukashenko and his regime in this episode should receive the corresponding order of aresh, because, according to my information, part of the ukrainian children were illegally taken to the russian federation through the territory of belarus and we know that these self-proclaimed belarusian puppets admitted that they were involved in the so-called evacuation of ukrainian

children instead of poroshenko. thank you for joining our broadcast. iryna gerashchenko, people's deputy of ukraine, member of the verkhovna rada committee on foreign policy and inter-parliamentary cooperation, was in touch with us. and we are moving on to our next speaker. we are in touch with mr. oleksandr, yes. so far, mr. oleksandr, i will announce what we will talk about while we establish contact with him. i already have oleksandr. greetings

, dear. good evening. let's talk firstly, about the meeting of the united states of america, japan and south korea, an emergency of the same kind took place due to threats from china and north korea, alexander, what new agreements emerged as a result of this summit, how will these three partners react to the challenges and threats posed by the prc and dprk is very important, the symbolism of what happened is generally the same, it means that america supports japan, and even more so with south korea, and at the same time they are all ready to cooperate so that you prevent possible aggression and so on, so i would say that on the most important thing, because don't forget that when it comes to some kind of partnership at the level of the army of troops, etc., here, first of all, it already exists, because there are some 4,000 american soldiers in south korea, several thousand in japan, and

in other islands there, and they have already developed various plans in the event of chinese aggression or in the event of north korean aggression , so the most important thing is exactly what you are showing on the screen here, that biden together with the leaders of two asian countries met, discussed issues, and what they said, they will support solidarity among themselves is a signal for north korea and for china and, in a middle way, they say for russia, he announced that he is ready to meet with kim jong-un, the leader of north korea, without preconditions in order to talk about the nuclearization of the korean peninsula, whether such a meeting is possible, mr. alexander, and under what conditions who did it at all can agree well, it means that the americans are clearly

ready, well, at least it is almost as if you have such a desire, or did he sincerely say that, did he say it for propaganda purposes, knowing that they drink north korea will refuse well, that's it it's more difficult. i don't know. by the way, taking into account the situation that exists now, of course, it seems to me that this is mostly propaganda from the american side, because they have any special hopes for any preconditions for the negotiations, hardly anyone has such hopes here or bozna-where, but everyone wants to go and serve their desire to live in the ner, maintain their nerve and in the end, they express it in this way, and now the leaders of the north koreans have put such a spicy situation if he says yes. well, then it must be so

and to meet him to one degree or another of american conquests. and when he says no, then it turns out that he is against him , so i rather think that this is propaganda, but of course you understand in a diplomat and everything is possible , who thought that trump would meet with him next well, of course, he understood a lot, but after all, who could have imagined such a thing, so in principle , i can delete one more interesting statement by biden that he wants to discuss with you , mr. oleksandr. stopping a full-scale russian invasion, it would be immediately clear that we are in a situation where it can happen anywhere, if we stopped, what kind of signal would it send to china, what kind of signal would it send to the whole world, said the us president, is there a stop to china

p oleksandr in the attack on taiwan it is precisely the fact that the united states of america is helping ukraine to fight against russian aggression, they understand that there will be the same response for china and the americans know this and the russians and even more so the chinese again, this means diplomatic signaling is so uhh, because there is already an american doctrine there , in principle, the americans said that x years ago they would help taiwan so that it is in the interests of america, so you know these documents exist and there is no particularly new discovery here but of course very it is important that there is such a probability that the country can support its diplomatic sphere, and despite the fact that it supports russia for purely ukrainian reasons, for reasons that

concern russia, there is also some socialization here what is happening, what you hinted at means that america is ready to support its partners if it is ready to support a partner such as, well, which is not yet formally a partner of ukraine at least on the same level as taiwan, then of course the thing is, in principle, the chinese should conclude that it will help the thais all the more it is really so and it will be that it is really so well, of course no one knows this, but that is precisely the whole thing that diplomacy, uh, you always want to find out, well, sometimes you have to say very directly what you want, what you want, and what you don't want but more often such ambiguous signals are being put forward. well, maybe we will do this, or maybe we will do this, and in this way, your opponents and the enemy do not know exactly what

to expect from you and from their opponent, which of course is more useful then for america or for any country that is involved with whom she wrote with reference to the biden administration that they are allegedly not satisfied with the strikes of the armed forces of ukraine in crimea, they say that it is a waste of funds, it will not give any special result, oleksandr, why are these statements in the western press from time to time that we are doing something wrong so that they do not we are satisfied, because we were specifically allowed to go to crimea because it is our territory and because it is important in the counteroffensive, as they explain . and so it is among the ukrainians, among the ukrainian military leadership, in order for us to advance, we need to reduce the equipment and weapons of the russians, which are also concentrated on

the peninsula directly because what do you think such statements are for, or is it possible, once again, attempts to inflame us with information in a certain way, well, again, i'm not quite er , in america there are people who support ukraine, this is the majority, fortunately, but there are people who are also they have become critical of ukraine and aid for ukraine and so on. well, these are mostly people who are either very left or very right, including a country full of people like him. and they constantly express their opinions, you see, the same people are in the pentagon's dept department and the rest there, again mostly the majority are people who support ukraine, but i, too, and others who are not quite so that the very fact that such a thing appeared in your donbas , a journalist wrote about it, i am not entirely convinced that this is precisely the reason for some special

excitement but of course it appeared washington is a very authoritative newspaper, their sources are some unknown people there, or you may be in some long circles. and this simply shows that despite what i just said, there is a current in america, there are people who are convinced that ukraine still he is too far away, he does not give less, america should give less weapons, etc. and of course they have their arguments , they have their own logic. they are so on political decisions, but at least on the disc, rhetoric is useful on questions that are becoming unimportant to us and in ukraine, and we need

to take them seriously, but of course do not panic, because it is quite possible that these are just some people who have doubts, said something and on therefore, the end does not necessarily reflect the opinion of either biden or his cabinet in general. by the way, regarding the leader of one of the currents against ukraine and the support of our state, trump, his lawyers are now trying to move the ships over the ex-president of the usa to 2026, they say let's hold elections and then we will condemn trump. however, the prosecution, on the contrary, is going to complete this process before the elections by january 2, 2024. they even

want to start after the holiday holidays, rather, from january 2, 2024. biden still has a chance to avoid