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[000:00:00;00] the complete capitulation of ukraine to russia and to find opportunities to ensure the further annexation of ukrainian lands to russia, what viktor yanukovych should have done is another viktor medvedchuk. but since there is no president of ukraine who is ready to capitulate to this wild gang , then there will be no negotiations, because the russian president himself believes that the year two three four five and he will achieve his goal, he will not achieve it because 75 years is much more difficult to achieve something angelica than 70 and this one is not only about history, he tried to somehow look at the moral and psychological state
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of putin after a year and a half of war and these events with the people of bagneri and so on that they have their own interests related to the military-industrial complex of russia, so i think that he wants to look at him all the time because he already came to moscow and the fact that he came a few months later is interesting moment, well, of course, this is military and technical cooperation, but again , it is very careful because china does not want such cooperation with the russian federation , which would put its own companies at risk of sanctions from the united states and other countries of the civilized world. it is necessary, but there is a certain concern, moscow's concern for the dualism, beijing for beijing's well-being , related to nuclear weapons, beijing really would not like
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the use of what the chinese call the ukrainian war in this conflict nuclear weapons and it is absolutely obvious that when the minister of defense of the people's republic of china meets with russian military leaders and later in minsk with the head of belarus alexander lukashenko , this means a desire to understand what the mechanism of control over nuclear weapons that have been transferred from the territory of the russian federation to the republic of belarus really is does lukashenka have real control over it, or is it all an imitation of control? for the chinese, it is all the more important that the republic of belarus is actually one of such political formposts of china in europe from the last and uh, this is also quite an important moment, that is why the minister of defense of the people's republic of china visited minsk, this is a nuclear visit, well , it is quite important that in any case the minister of defense of the people's republic of china is no longer just the minister of defense from 11 members of the chinese party leadership, it is necessary to understand the level of i would say consideration by moscow of chinese e-e problems moscow's concern was
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that china constantly supported the grain water and it was absolutely obvious that this support it creates certain problems for the russian president vladimir putin when he made a decision to simply reject this decision now that putin has ignored china's wishes and left this agreement in place china's desire to buy ukrainian grain remains to reconcile its interests for the chinese is unpleasant history because the whole world has become convinced that the influence of the president of the people's republic of china, sidzelpin, on the president of the russian federation, vladimir putin , is exaggerated, to put it mildly, and this of course also needs additional consultations at a high level. by the way, next week bricks is also going to send sergei lavrov instead of putin. and why is it important for mr. vitaly to stay at least somewhere for putin because he cannot go to
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the south african republic because all the calls are not a war criminal, and vladimir putin really wanted to go there, incredible, they twisted the hands of the president of the south african republic, laura makhosi, then they broke the hands of the president of the syrian republic of south africa sirila ramakhos, then something was done with his hands, he talked to putin every day and convinced him that there was no need to go. putin refused to cancel his visit , in the end, you know that the president of the south african republic took such a step. he allowed his own e- e testimony regarding the possible arrival of vladimir putin to johannesburg in a judicial procedure, the court made public his testimony and vladimir putin became clear that, in principle , president paul of the south african republic well, that is not how he controls the judicial system
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how is he in russia, or at least i want to pretend that it is not so ? to arrest putin but it did not come to that it came and what does it mean to bring changes to the legislation , it was necessary to refuse to ratify the statute of the international criminal court passed the american republic did not want to do this well, as a result, putin was forced to agree to the offer that the south african republic made to him from the very beginning. let's send lavrov instead of me. be the pater , how are we talking to you now ? i differ from putin in a better way p vitaly and then what are the expectations from this? this is where brics is if russia cannot through lavrov. i think so in some way to influence and play an important geopolitical
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role there. well, i think that in general i don’t need to believe that now there may be some great expectations from the brics summit for this simple reason that the brics countries are currently going through not the best times in russia, a serious economic crisis is connected, of course, with putin's adventure, but it is actually in russia. i would say the turning of the economy from its west to the east with unknown consequences, because you understand russia , during the six times of the moscow principality, they always traded precisely with measures not of the east, for everything she had, i don’t know there , some uh, mechanics, some wood, some such goods, then strategically very important to the west
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then it began to supply its grain to the west, and it was the largest exporter of grain to the west, then metal, then gases, oil was always, if we speak from an economic point of view , a raw material appendage of europe, and raw materials for appendages were never in the store and it is not known why asia needs it in such a role and here this is happening now in china the economy is not recovering all the hopes are all the calls that there will be a rapid recovery of the economy after the leadership of the chinese communist party abandons its policy of zero tolerance for they did not live up to the coronavirus, no, and in this situation, in this situation, we can say that when china sneezes, there is a serious cold in brazil and in the south african republics, and these countries are trying to rebuild, at least when it comes to the park, the most serious interaction between western economies. well, then the question arises. well, what is left of brics, economically, politically, you can talk about other things, and economically, and politically
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, see china and india and brazil and the south african republic, they were all at this meeting in jinda, where they discussed the issue of the end of russia's war against ukraine without russia's invitation. well, what kind of allies are these? if i were serhii lavrov , i came like this and said, "what is this? you took it yourself . why did you go there? how are you not ashamed? and the chinese representative and the brazilian indian and south african, who dragged you there? how could you go to the peace summit in jeddah without us? the president of mexico , lopez-brador, clearly said that there cannot be any peace summits on russia's war against ukraine without russia's participation. the position of which ally is none. and what is this? therefore, we can say that there are also certain problems of a political
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nature between the brics allies, the russians understand this very well, they understand that their influence is decreasing, and the economic and political influence is simply decreasing. after all, china and india are the main exporters of russian oil . of course, this is a huge problem, and it is a problem that can drag out russia's war against ukraine for many years, because the purchases of china and india in the russian navy, of course, today there are those underseas that allow the president of the russian federation, vladimir putin, to hope that he will be able to live in a non-stop war mode for a long time , especially since india and china not only receive russian oil, but also are such a laundry for russian oil after that oil product produced in, say, india is bought by western countries, and this is a serious problem , but in any case, if the economy declines, then so much oil is not
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needed, i am not talking about the fact that in any in this case, the russian federation has to sell russian oil to india and china at a very high price. i would say that the price is good for them and at prices that the russian leadership clearly does not like . and now the same situation can happen with the sale of russian grain to india, and india trades all the time good discounts on any russian products . i am not talking about the fact that india is trying to pay for a large part of these products in rupees. i wonder what russia will do with them in the future . unfortunately, these sanctions that were introduced and regarding the purchase of oil in russia, they obviously did not work, but there was a large article, but i read an economic article about the fact that, after all , exports even increased by 20% for this month compared to july, they mean from august, did they count compared to june, but less than last year, for example. however, these are very large sums. the sums that
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the russian federation earns from oil are more than that from gas, for example, and they spend it all on the war. it will collapse, it will experience more and more problems, here we see what is happening with the russian ruble exchange rate, but this does not mean that these problems will quickly lead to the destruction of this economy , the russians still have time, at least for sure, to maintain social stability and for sure to maintain the standard of living of their compatriots most of whom sincerely support vladimir putin's war against ukraine and wish us as soon as possible as the best possible defeat and another question is how long russian society will be able to live in a state of social destabilization, because no one said that social instability is the automatic collapse of the state and the end of the war, these may be problems, but it is also unknown whether
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the russians will begin to respond to these problems and how effective the russian security apparatus will be to pick up these protests if they ever start in russia at all we remember the belarusian protests of the 20th year , how many people were behind them, and if anzhelika had won in these protests, there would have been no war between russia and ukraine, because russia could not use belarus as a bridgehead at least in the northern direction, it would be much, much more difficult for the russians, this abomination already admitted this week that he actually provided the territory of his country for aggression against our independence, the apparatus turned out to be much stronger, effective and cruel than the belarusian people, the belarusian people lost the war for their country maybe a battle, maybe a war, who will win someday, but for today it is so , in fact, the belarusian people allowed the russians to occupy their country and turn its
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leader lukashenka into the gauleiter of belarus no one said that the russian power apparatus will not be tough and effective, that it will be able to stop any protest and ensure that vladimir putin not only stays in power in the russian federation , but also continues military actions against ukraine . moreover, if the situation worsens, the social and more russian men will see in the service of the armed forces of the russian federation a way out of this social predicament in which they and their families will fall, and there will be enough cannon fodder in russia. by the way, regarding lukashenko's statement he somehow contradicted himself because, on the one hand, he said in this interview that the west is pressuring ukraine to continue the war, but on the other hand, he said that soon the americans will ask to stop, you understand lukashenka , there have always been contradictions with logic, maybe this is such a special organization of the psyche, and maybe that's why what does he have putin lives here in his head here remember how in one of the harry potter novels lord de voldemort lived there, one of the teachers of the school in hogwarts, he
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lived somewhere here, but he was an educated person some lukashenka, as you understand, is not very educated, to put it mildly, and if someone lives in his head, something whispers in his head, he just goes astray all the time from his own opinion, and he honestly wavers, on the one hand , the americans want to fight, and on the other hand, the americans they want victory, on the one hand, they need putin to discuss everything, even from crimea, but on the other hand, putin will never give crimea back, but the question arises if i were this pseudo-journalist who went to lukashenka to look at him with dreamy eyes diana panchenko seems to her to be a voice of propaganda, i would ask and then why should we talk to putin about crimea if he will never give it here, alexander wants, i understand you and will give at least other territories.
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the stake he never wants to give, so we will enter into negotiations so that he will say, i will chop off the hand, cut off the stump, he would give it to us correctly, i understand, well, with alexander the winner, you need to talk about simple things. when you talk to him about a hand, a leg, a leg kolya or some other part of the kneeling organism is the only one who understands political logic. and i don’t understand anything. he thinks that it is possible to talk and refuse at the same time until the beginning of the victory. he would simply say that he is being mocked. there are people lukashenko is among them who sincerely treat well, on the other hand, why doesn't lukashenko treat those around him with respect when he has been raping belarus for 30 years, you understand a rapist with experience, like when belarusians came out on the streets and
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when they tried to get rid of it scoundrel, he behaved much less confident. remember the bigot with a machine gun with fixed eyes and immediately all his rights where he went somewhere, such people understand only strength, i am convinced of you, if we ever see lukashenko on the dock in the international tribunal, this bastard will not behave completely different. by the way, about the wagnerians, here and there, and the whole situation , he commented interestingly. he said that even about the production, it was allegedly that it was a production . only crazy people can talk like that, because this the event caused enormous damage. but at the same time, he said that it did not weaken putin, he became more mobilized, more cunning and wiser , well, he probably worked as much as a million p . vitalik, but this is a logical contradiction. if she caused enormous damage, then how could she
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make putin wiser, more cunning? and if it was a production, so putin became stronger due to the production organized by him with the participation of oleksandr grigoryovych in a secondary role. his statements are true. look at any western politician, he is also a traitor. and hours before he already has a headache, they caught him logically, because you can afford to say whatever you want, if you are there, if everything bounces off you i am like a baseball, your supporters are ready for anything, whatever you say, to declare the truth in the last instance. but if you are just a politician without such a reputable trump, you have to think over every word, but lukashenko he how trump behaves, he just says the first thing that came to his mind. so he hits on some statutory
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topic and he pronounces it. but i repeat again that lukashenko always spoke like that, the only thing is that he now restrains himself, do you remember that you can say that in one of his first interviews when he became the president of belarus and he was asked in the 90s who is a hero for him, who and what he likes about him, of course i like him , i jumped off my tongue that it wasn't bad after all adolf hitler, he said roads and discipline, you know, he admitted that in fact, his political idol, his hero, the person whose portrait may be hanging in his bedroom is adolf hitler, so he is the least sleeping bag. i think he has a portrait of medvedev in his bedroom because medvedev says so much good about putin, if i were putin, i would keep a portrait of a bear in his bedroom here is lukashenka, there is no bear, a portrait of eve, he has a wife, he cannot be in the bedroom, putin, after all, these are orthodox
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values from the wing of course, if so, then he cannot , mr. vitalyu, the last statement is not the last, but the one i want to discuss with you, lukashenka, he said again, threatening that if poland and lithuania were yours , aggression against our country will begin. we will respond instantly to everyone, hinting and even directly talking about the nuclear warheads that are on the territory of belarus. fear they believe that the west wanted to attack them and then got ahead of them, the west attacked first , but not the west. and ukraine. well, that's how it is, and the belarusians don't believe that. well, that's a good question. i think it's a question that the minister defense of the people's republic of china, lukashenko also asked why do you need this given weapon and who controls it and who can really cool
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down the decision well, let's be honest with oleksandr hryhorovych, he does not have any button that can be pressed, the only person who can press this button is agreed with his own military the leadership is the president of the russian federation, vladimir putin, he can bring nuclear weapons anywhere, to belarus, to sakhalin, to any other country , but the president of the russian federation will have the key codes federations by the way, how was this after the collapse of the soviet union? we had nuclear weapons on our territory, but the codes for launching them were not with the president of ukraine, but with the president of the russian federation. and then the president of ukraine, among other heads of state, could influence the possibility of using nuclear weapons, i.e. the president of russia, in principle, could not do it alone , but when in the end we gave up this
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joint command, full control an unknown weapon came to the russian federation, this is such a moment and it remains so now, whatever the russian nuclear arsenal is, but i see in this a certain scenario, imagine such a scenario that the wagnerites that lukashenko spoke about still cross the border of poland and they make some kind of provocation of the poles there, they are expelled from there, and then they are faced with a dilemma, either to calm down and do nothing more, but then there is a possibility that the wagnerites will come again and again, or, let's say, inflict an aviation boa constrictor on the bases wagnerites on the territory of the republic of belarus is true, but then there is a real possibility that the russian federation, together with belarus, will strike at my poland because they will qualify this bombing of the bases of the bachnerites in our sovereign territories of the republic of belarus as an aggression against belarus and russia, and of course there will be a danger of exchanging nuclear strikes and here
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, nuclear weapons that will be located on the territory of the republic of belarus will already be an important part of this whole game, so the western countries that russia and belarus are ready for the use of nuclear weapons in the event that western countries are forced to respond to these provocations that putin lukashenko is planning against nato member countries. here is the whole answer to the question why lukashenka at all. for the west, these are simple words, we can do no provocation , but if you respond to a nuclear strike , you will not be able to avoid it, i will initiate it myself. lack of income, they say, the number of mercenaries is decreasing, and from now on, well, this is official information from the national resistance center, but then
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, vitaly, our thesis with you is that there will be provocations . maybe they have already canceled their intentions , this is already a dynamic situation, it changes if they really hesitate will leave belarus, it will be possible to bend calmly this does not mean that there will be no provocations at all well, there were no provocations at the border with the participation of migrants, it’s just that they will be provocations by another headquarters. and everything is also absolutely probable. i also want to talk to you about the aggravation of ukrainian-israeli relations. ukraine proposes to exclude israel altogether from the ramshtei and cancel the visa-free regime between the two countries, supposedly this is all because the israeli authorities treat ukrainian refugees badly, that is, they cancel medical insurance for our refugees and also generally behave on international platforms is allegedly unacceptable for ukraine, not supporting
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us fully as we expect it. explain what is actually happening, i remember, i think that we do not have accurate information about certain measures, this may be an element of diplomatic pressure on israel from the head of the ukrainian embassy in israel, i do not think that ukraine will cancel the visa-free regime with israel for one simple reason: ukraine has canceled the visa-free regime of visas for israel unilaterally, some for others countries of the world, and by and large , israel is not very interested in a visa-free regime from ukraine, but ukraine is interested in a visa-free regime from israel, and it took incredible efforts to even come to the celebration will be the very number of citizens of the united states and other countries for hasidic travel to uman, visa-free or visa regime with israel, as a rule, does not affect because most of these people are citizens
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of the united states, most of the supporters of this version of hasidism, to which the teachings of rabbi nachman refer, live in the united states americans are not in israel at all. so they can live in israel and also be american citizens. it is simply necessary to realize that in general a huge number people who are pilgrims and come to uman are not citizens of israel because the majority of people who are special supporters of such radical branches of judaism do not recognize the very existence of the state of israel . they believe that it can only be created by the messiah, this state and therefore even if they live in israel they don't take israeli passports. as such, it's not about the hasidim in the story, i don't think the israeli government is very interested in the fact that he went somewhere and that he was responsible for their safety is a separate story. so i think that when ukraine e-e wants to cancel the visa regime with some country
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. it should think about the consequences of this cancellation for its own citizens , this is always a problem. it is one thing when we cancel the e-e regime from russia, we introduce and introduce visas with russians, it is another thing when we cancel it for such countries like israel, i will remind you again that the very cancellation of visas for citizens of ukraine in israel was a very, very difficult story, they went through incredible difficulties because in israel they were very afraid of illegal migration from ukraine and if we really imagine in our own words that ukraine will cancel visas for citizens of israel, and israel, that is, the visa-free regime for citizens, and israel's answer will cancel the visa-free regime for citizens of ukraine, so a huge number of israeli politicians who were against this visa-free regime will now die with relief. we will give a huge gift to those who would like to cancel the visa-free regime now for the citizens of ukraine and
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simply does not know how to do it, it creates some problems, some electronic visas, another thing is that our diplomacy is successfully fighting, but it must be said that it will be a great gift and i think that many people in israel will use it, and we will see that, and regarding the exclusion from rammstein, well, israel is one of the main military allies of the united states, and that is why when i hear these words that israel transfers the results of rammstein to the russian side, while rammstein takes the participation of countries that really have good relations with the russian federation and nothing. we somehow take it calmly, which have also not introduced any sanctions against russia , continue air traffic with it, which is israel, for sure, a lot of questions arise that i think that this controversy itself looks like a vivid example of a diplomatic adventure and i think that it will end in nothing, because you know that the minister of foreign affairs
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of ukraine and israel talked, there were no conflict situations, there was no more that the minister of foreign affairs of israel promised to leave health insurance for ukrainian refugees who are in israel so i think that from israel all issues should be resolved diplomatically, it will be very careful because i always remind that when you can seriously create problems with israel, you can create problems with the jewish community of the united states without noticing it, and then you will suddenly have such serious problems of a foreign policy nature that you do not even suspect the existence of . everything in the world is interconnected. and when you do some act, you should always remember the consequences of this or that act of yours, and most importantly, the strength or weakness of your
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own position when it comes to states and with ancient traditions of strategic partnership and united states. i believe that countries such as israel and ukraine must stick together. ukrainian refugees demand it, and everyone knows it, and they take these children to school for free. it is true that there is a lot of support, so you are right here, vitalik. to thank you for the wonderful broadcast vitaliy portnikov and anzhelika spent a season for you today in such an unusual format as the saturday political club . my colleague iryna koval tell you iryna, please thank you angelik in the next 30 minutes really about the most important events of this week, so wait, which settlements managed
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to return to the armed forces of ukraine and how the counteroffensive is progressing about the failures of the russians not only at the front, but also what unexpected statements were made this week about this and much more in today's release, the difficult and bloody counteroffensive of the ukrainian army puts our allies in a dilemma whether to continue military support for kyiv until the liberation of a large part of the territory or to push for negotiations oh i see i see but there is also the right radicals and their leader’s business cards scared all of russia right sector volunteer ukrainian corps and now the 67th brigade of the armed forces of ukraine is serving on one of the most dangerous areas of the front, a non-political action has been carried out countless times, because it is barebones. half a thousand houses in kharkiv are not subject to recovery, how
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