[000:00:00;00] sometimes they mislead and say that it is ukraine that does not want negotiations, not every time when a specific question is put before them. and what about the defeated, they say that they are not relevant now, they are not needed now, you do not believe in the very possibility of russian-ukrainian victories, many say that this war, like any other, will end at the negotiating table, i insist on the opposite, no , the russian-ukrainian war, even if it ends, may not end at any negotiating table, it may just be an informal truce or a truce that will be formalized by some agreements with mediators, but ukraine and russia will not appear at the negotiating table , the only possibility for the president of ukraine to appear at the same table with the president of the russian federation is to make a decision on the complete surrender of ukraine to russia and to find opportunities to ensure further the accession of ukrainian lands to

russia is what viktor yanukovych and another viktor medvedchuk were supposed to do. but in february of last year, they were already tried to make them puppet leaders in the administration that volodymyr putin wanted to do in kyiv. that's all. and since there is no president of ukraine who is ready to capitulate to this wild gang , there will be no negotiations, because the russian president himself believes that one year , two, three, four, five, and he will achieve his goal. it will not be achieved because 75 years is much more difficult to achieve than 70, angelica, and this applies not only to history . and so on that they have their own interests related to the military

-industrial complex of russia, so i think that he wants to watch him all the time because he already came to moscow and the fact that he came a few months later is an interesting moment, well, of course military-technical cooperation , but again, it is very careful because china does not want such cooperation with the russian federation, which would put its own companies at risk of sanctions from the united states and other countries of the civilized world it is obvious that no. why does he need it, but there is a certain concern, moscow's concern for the superrooms, the heat for the balconies, calmly associated with nuclear weapons, beijing really would not like nuclear weapons to be used in this conflict, as the chinese call the ukrainian war. and it is absolutely obvious that when defense of the people 's republic of china meets with russian military commanders and later in minsk with the head of belarus oleksandr lukashenko

, this means a desire to understand what is really the mechanism of control over nuclear weapons that has been moved from the territory of the russian federation to the republic of belarus, does lukashenka really have real control over it, or is it in fact all an imitation of control for the chinese , it is all the more important that the republic of belarus is actually one of such political outposts of china and europe from the last and e this is also a very important moment, which is why the minister of defense of the people's republic of china visited minsk, this is a nuclear visit, and it is quite important that in any case the minister of defense of the people's republic of china, he is no longer just the minister of defense of the 11 members of the chinese party leadership, it is necessary to understand his level, i would say moscow's consideration of china's er problems . moscow's concern was that china constantly supported grain and it was absolutely obvious that er this support it creates certain problems for russian president vladimir putin when he decided to simply reject this agreement

now that putin has ignored china's desire to leave this agreement in effect china's desire to buy ukrainian grain remains to coordinate its interests for the chinese , an unpleasant story because the whole world has become convinced that the influence of the head of the people's republic of china sidzelpin on the president of the russian federation, vladimir putin, has been exaggerated, to put it mildly , and this is normal, the test requires additional consultations at a high level. by the way, the following next week there will be a bricks and cd summit, and instead of putin , he is going to send sergey lavrov. that he can't go to the south african republic because all the calls are not a war criminal, but vladimir putin really wanted to go there, incredible, they twisted the hands

of the president of the south african republic , laura makhosi, then they broke the movement of the president of the south african republic , sirila ramahosi, then something with his hands he did, he talked to putin every day and convinced him that there was no need to go. putin refused to cancel his visit . in the end, you know that the president of the south african republic did such a thing. step he allowed the publication of his own testimony regarding the possible arrival of vladimir putin to johannesburg in court proceedings, the court published his testimony and vladimir putin became clear that, in principle , president paul of the south african republic well does not control the judicial system as much as he does in russia or at least i want to pretend that it is not so i control although i think that it is really not so controlling because you cannot compare the level with the independent judicial system of couples in the russian federation well, you

understand that aromafosa will make changes in legislation so as not to arrest putin . they did it from the very beginning, let's send lavrov instead of me. and he himself. be on tv, here's how we are talking to you now. imagine that he won fos, but no one will arrest them if i come somewhere, that means i differ from putin in a better way. and then what are the expectations from this? brics is right here if russia cannot through lavrov. i think so in some way to influence and play an important geopolitical role there. well, i think that in general i should not be considered that now there may be some big expectations from the brics summit for this simple

reason that the brics countries are currently going through not the best times in russia, the economic crisis is serious, of course, connected with putin's adventure, but it actually exists in russia. i would said the turn of the economy from its west to the east with unknown consequences, because you understand, russia, during the six times of the moscow principality, always traded exactly in the west, not in the east, but everything she had, i don't know, there are some uh miha, some tree, some such goods, then strategically very important to the west, then it began to supply the west with its grain , it was the largest exporter of grain to the west , then metal, then gases, oil has always been , speaking from an economic point of view

, a raw material appendage of europe, and raw materials for the appendages of asia have never been and it is not known why asia needs it in such a role and this is what is happening in china now, the economy is not recovering, all the hopes are all the calls that there will be a rapid recovery of the economy after the leadership of the communist party of china abandons its policy of zero tolerance to the coronavirus, they did not live up to it, angelica , not in this one either situation in this situation, it can be said that when china sneezes, there is a serious cold in brazil and in the south african republics, and these countries are trying to rebuild, at least when it comes to the park most seriously interacts with western economies. well, then the question arises. well, what is left of brics? economically, politically , you can talk about other things, and economically, and politically. look at china, india, brazil , and the republic of south africa. they were all at

this meeting in jinda, where the issues were discussed. the end of russia's war against ukraine without russia's invitation. well, what kind of allies are these? if i were serhiy lavrov, i came like this and said , what kind of mirzov are you? the chinese representative and the brazilian, indian and south african representatives who dragged you there how could you go to the peace summit in jeddah without us, the president of mexico lopez labrador, he clearly said that there cannot be any peace summits on russia's war against ukraine without the participation of russia, well, this is the position the position of which ally is none. and what is this? that is why we can say that there are also certain problems of a political nature between the brics allies . the russians understand this very well. they understand that their influence is decreasing, both economic and

the political influence is simply decreasing, but the economic one, in relation to this , vitaliy, and yet china and india are the main exporters of russian oil. of course, this is a huge problem, and this problem can drag out russia’s war against ukraine for many years , because china’s purchase of india by russia is , of course , and today there are many seas that allow the president of the russian federation, vladimir putin, to hope that he will be able to live in a non-stop war mode for a long time, especially since india and china do not just receive russian oil, but and it is such a laundry for russian oil after the oil product produced in india is bought by western countries , and this is a serious problem, but in any case , if the economy will decline, it means that so much oil is not needed, i am not talking about the fact that in any case, the russian federation has to sell russian oil to india and china at a very high price. i would say that the price is good for them and at prices that

the russian leadership clearly does not like. and now the same situation can happen with the sale of russian grain to india and india trades all the time and pretty good discounts on any russian products. i am not talking about the fact that india is trying to pay for a large part of these products in rupees. it is interesting what russia will do with them in the future . unfortunately, these sanctions were also introduced in relation to purchases . oil in russia, well, they obviously did not work, but there was a big article, but i read an economic article about the fact that, after all , exports even increased by 20% for this month compared to july, do you mean august, did they not count compared to but less than last year, for example. however, these are very large sums. the sums that the russian federation earns from oil are more than e than from gas, for example, and they

spend it all on the war, in particular, panels, we must be realistic, this is a problem because when we say that the russian economy tomorrow it will collapse, it will experience more and more problems, here we see what is happening with the russian ruble exchange rate, but this does not mean that these problems will be there, they will quickly lead to the destruction of this economy , the russians still have time, at least for sure, to maintain social stability and certainly maintaining the standard of living of their compatriots, most of whom sincerely support vladimir putin's war against ukraine and wish us as soon as possible as the best possible defeat and another question is how long russian society can live in a state of social destabilization, because no one said that social instability is the automatic collapse of the state and the end of the war , these may be problems, but it is not known whether the russians will begin to respond to these problems and how effective the power apparatus will be russia in order to pick up these protests, if they ever start in russia

, we remember the belarusian protests of the 20th year , how many people there were, and if anzhelika was defeated in these protests, there would be no war between russia and ukraine, because russia could not use belarus as a bridgehead, at least in the northern direction , would be much, much more difficult for the russians, this scoundrel admitted almost this week that he actually provided the territory of his country for aggression against our independence, the power apparatus turned out to be much stronger and more effective and crueler than the belarusian people, the belarusian people lost the war for their country, maybe a battle, maybe a war that will ever win , but today it is so, in fact, the belarusian people allowed the russians to occupy their country and turn its leader lukashenka into a gaulite in belarus, no one said that the russian power apparatus is not will also prove to be tough and effective in that he will be able to stop any protest and ensure that vladimir putin not only remains in power in the russian federation, but also continues

military operations against ukraine. moreover, if the social situation will deteriorate more and more russian men will see the service of the armed forces of the russian federation as a way out of this social predicament in which they and their families will fall , and there will be enough cannon fodder in russia. contradicted because, on the one hand, he said in this interview that the west is pressuring ukraine to continue the war, but on the other hand, he said that soon the americans will ask lukashenka to stop, there have always been contradictions with logic , maybe this is such a special organization of the psyche and maybe because he has putin living here in his head here, do you remember how in one of the novels about harry potter , lord de voldemort lived there, one of the teachers of the school in hogwarts, he lived somewhere here, but he was an educated person and lukashenka, as you understand, is not very educated, to put it mildly, and if someone lives in his head, something

whispers in his head, he simply strays from his own opinion all the time, and he was often swayed. victory with on the one hand, we need to discuss everything with putin, even from crimea, but on the other hand, putin will never give crimea back, but the question arises if i were this pseudo-journalist who went to lukashenka to look at him with dreamy eyes diana panchenko, so she seems to sound like i would ask, why should we talk to putin about crimea if he will never give it up here ? i want oleksandr . i understand that he will give you at least other territories. which he never wants to give so well that he would say a hand cut off

a stump , he would give it to us correctly, well, you need to talk to oleksandr grigoryovych in simple terms . yes, he does not understand anything, yes, he believes that it is possible to talk and refuse at the same time until the beginning of victory , he simply, i would say, he is being mocked, but there are people lukashenko refers to them, who sincerely treat everyone around them. well, with on the other hand, why doesn't lukashenko treat those around him with respect when he has been raping belarus for 30 years, you understand a rapist with experience, like when the belarusians went out on the streets and when they tried to get rid of this scoundrel, he behaved much less confidently. remember the bigot with a machine gun with fixed eyes and immediately all his rights , where did he go somewhere, such people

only understand power, i am convinced of you, if we ever see lukashenko on the dock in the international tribunal, this bastard will not behave completely differently. by the way, about he commented on the whole situation interestingly. he said that even about the production, it was supposedly a production . only crazy people can say that, because this event caused enormous damage. but at the same time, he said that it did not weaken putin, he became more mobilized, more cunning and wiser, well, he probably worked as much as a million p . vitalik, but this is a logical contradiction. if she caused enormous damage, then how could she make putin wiser, more cunning? and if it was a production, then putin became

stronger due to the production organized by him with the participation of oleksandr hryhorovych in a minor role. so this again says that these people and you don't even need to check the logic of their statements, it 's true. look at any western politician , he sits as a traitor and hours before that that his head has already been caught on logic , because you can afford to say whatever you want, if you are there , if everything bounces off you like a baseball , i am your supporters, ready for anything whatever you say, announce the truth in the last resort. but if you are just a politician without such a reputation as trump, you have to think about every word, but lukashenko behaves like trump, he just says the first thing that happened to him. but i repeat again that lukashenko always said that, the only thing is that he now restrains himself, do you remember that you can say that in one of his first interviews when he

became the president of belarus and he was asked in the 90s who is a hero for him, who and what he likes him, of course, i like him, i jumped off my tongue that it wasn't bad after all, but hitler, he said roads and pe- and discipline, you understand, he admitted that in fact his political idol is his hero , the person whose portrait may be hanging in his bedroom there is adolf hitler well, he is the least way i think he has a portrait of medvedev in his bedroom because medvedev says so much good about putin if i were putin i would keep a portrait of medvedev in his bedroom ot lukashenka there are no teddy bears our third well bear come on i have a wife he can't to be in bed putin, after all, these are orthodox values, if you can, mr. vitalyu, the last statement is not the last. but

the one i want to discuss with you, lukashenko , he said again, threatening that if poland and lithuania were yours , aggression against our country would begin. we we will answer immediately to everyone and alluding to it, even speaking directly about the nuclear warheads that are on the territory of belarus, that is who this statement is aimed at, because it is okay for the russians to have this fear. they believe that the west wanted to attack them and then the west got ahead of them attacked first, but not the west, but ukraine. well, that's right, and the belarusians don't believe it. well, this is a good question. i think that this is a question that the minister of defense of the people 's republic of china also asked lukashenko. why do you need this ancient weapon and who controls it and who really can to make a decision well, let's be honest with oleksandr hryhorovych, he does not have any button that can be pressed, the only person who can press this button for

a barrier agreed with his own military leadership is the president of the russian federation, volodymyr putin, you can bring nuclear weapons anywhere, to belarus, to sakhalin, to any other country . but the president of the russian federation will have the key codes. by the way, how was this after the collapse of the soviet union? we had nuclear weapons on our territory, but the codes for launching them were not the president of ukraine, but the president of the russian federation, there was a moment when it had to be agreed with the commander-in-chief of the combined armed forces of the cis, and then the president of ukraine, among other heads of state, could influence the possibility of using nuclear weapons, i.e. the president of russia, in principle, could not do it alone, but when we eventually gave up this joint command, full control of an unknown weapon came to the russian federation, this is such a moment and now it remains yes , whatever is the russian nuclear arsenal, but i see in this scenario, imagine

such a scenario that the wagnerites, whom lukashenko spoke about, nevertheless cross the border of poland and provoke a pole there, they are expelled from there, and then they are faced with a dilemma or to calm down and do nothing else, but then there is a possibility that the wagnerites will come more than once or, let's say, launch an air strike on the bases of the wagnerites in the territory of the republic of belarus, true, but then there is a real possibility that the russian federation, together with belarus, will strike at poland itself because will qualify this bombing of bahner bases on the sovereign territories of the republic of belarus as aggression against belarus and russia, and of course there will be a danger of exchanging nuclear strikes and here, nuclear weapons that will be located across the territory of belarus will already be an important part of this whole game

, that is, by and large, lukashenko is making it clear to western countries that russia and belarus are ready to use nuclear weapons in the event that western countries are forced to respond to these provocations that putin lukashenko are planning against nato member countries. here is the whole answer to the question why lukashenka at all. he is saying this , he is not saying this for the belarusians, he is saying this for the west, these are simple words, we can do no a provocation, but if you respond to a nuclear attack, you cannot avoid it , i will initiate it myself. that's all. by the way, the center of national resistance writes that pvt. wagner is leaving belarus due to lack of income. national resistance, but then vitaly, our thesis with you is that there will be provocations. perhaps they have already canceled their intentions, the dynamic situation is changing

, if they hesitate, they can really leave belarus. will bend calmly this does not mean that there will be no provocations at all well, there were no quarrels, there were provocations at the border with the participation of migrants, it’s just that they will be provocations from another headquarters. so everything is also absolutely likely, and i also want to talk with you about the aggravation of ukrainian-israeli relations. ukraine proposes to exclude israel in general is from ramstein and canceling the visa-free regime between the two countries is supposedly all because the israeli authorities treat ukrainian refugees badly, canceling their medical insurance for our refugees and also generally behaves on international platforms allegedly unacceptable for ukraine, not supporting us fully as we expect . explain what is actually happening, i remember, i think that we do not have information to a certain extent , this may be an element of diplomatic pressure on

israel from the head of the embassy of ukraine in israel, i do not think that ukraine will cancel the e-e visa-free regime with israel for one simple reason . for other countries of the world and by and large, israel is not very interested in a visa-free regime with ukraine, it is ukraine that was interested in a visa-free regime from israel and it took incredible efforts of the sound of israeli politicians. the visa-free or visa regime with israel usually does not affect because most of these people are citizens of the united states , most of the supporters of this version

of hasidism, to which the rabbi's teachings belong nachmans live in the united states of america, not in israel at all. so they can live in israel and also be american citizens. it is simply necessary to realize that in general, a huge number of people who are pilgrims and come to uman are not citizens of israel, because the majority of people who are the supporters of such radical branches of judaism do not recognize the very existence of the state of israel . they believe that it can only be created by the messiah and this state, and therefore even if they live in israel, they do not accept israeli passports as such and so that it is not about the hasidim in the story, i do not think that the israeli government is very interested in the fact that the hasidim go somewhere and that it is responsible for their safety is a separate story. so i think that when ukraine wants to with some the state to cancel the visa regime . it should think about the consequences of this cancellation for its own citizens, this is always a problem. it is one thing when we cancel the e-e regime from russia, we introduce

and introduce a visa by russians, it is another thing when we cancel it, how do we do it with such countries like israel, i will remind you again that the cancellation of visas for citizens of ukraine in israel was a very, very difficult story . they went through incredible difficulties because in israel they were very afraid of illegal migration from ukraine, and if we really imagine in our own words that ukraine will cancel visas for citizens of israel, and israel is visa-free regime for citizens of israel , the answer will cancel the visa-free regime for citizens of ukraine, then a huge number of israeli politicians who were against this visa-free regime will now die with relief we will make a huge gift to those who would generally like to cancel the visa-free regime for citizens of ukraine and simply do not know how to do it, it creates some problems, some electronic visas, another thing is that our diplomacy is a successful fighter, but

it must be said that it will be a great gift , and i think that in israel there are many he will use it, and we will see that, and regarding the exclusion from rammstein, well, israel is one of the main military allies of the united states, and that is why when i hear these words that israel is transferring the results of rammstein to the russian side, while in rammstein participating countries that really have good relations with the russian federation and nothing. we somehow take it calmly, which have also not introduced any sanctions against russia , continue air traffic with it, which israel definitely does, there are a lot of questions that i think this controversy itself looks like a vivid example diplomatic adventure and i think that it will end in nothing, because you know that the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine and israel talked, there were no conflict situations, there were no more that the minister

of foreign affairs of israel promised leave health insurance for ukrainian refugees in israel. so i think that all issues from israel should be resolved diplomatically, and it will be very careful, because i always remind you that when you seriously create problems with israel, you can create problems with the jewish community without noticing it of the united states and then suddenly face such serious problems of a foreign policy nature, the existence of which you do not even suspect, that is what you must always remember that in in the modern world, everything is interconnected. and when you do some act, you should always remember the consequences of this or that act of yours, and most importantly, the strength or weakness of your own position when it comes to states with long-standing traditions of strategic partnership and combined states. i believe that countries such as israel, ukraine, must stick

together here, they demand ukrainian refugees , and everyone knows this, and they take these children to school for free. noted, i can only thank you for the wonderful broadcast vitaliy portnikov and anzhelika sezonenko held for you today in such an unusual format as the saturday political club . i congratulate you. dear tv viewers, it is time to learn about the most important events at the moment, and i will start this news broadcast with president volodymyr zelenskyi together with the first lady