[000:00:00;00] we will restore it ourselves, they will give it, we will restore it ourselves, but i don't know, everyone wanted to go there together, because it was his dream , he made it, but they didn't have time, they had time. after the deoccupation, volodymyr joined one of the units of the armed forces in order to do everything so that the atrocities committed by the russians here never did not happen again, we must do everything possible to destroy the cancerous tumor, because it is not the people, they failed to break us and intimidate us, it is

the ukrainians and i am proud that my city has stood up , no matter how battered, whether exhausted bloodless flat fate took over the shield of the city of kyiv but we stand i am proud that these streets now have the ukrainian flag the memory of those days still keeps the locals in strahov when the occupiers retreated threatened to return and deal with those who survived about what they saw and experienced here, people are still afraid to speak openly but the main thing is to share their testimony with the investigation, they believe that the punishment will pass is the best proof of that life

that slowly but returns to the apple tree , our purpose is to be better every day we let's prove it in practice, our work is lower than the enemy , to protect our people, our duty, our operations change the course of the war where we work, the enemy has no chance of success , we are the whole village of ukraine, glory to the special operations forces of the armed forces of ukraine, when we say

weapons, we imagine machine guns, guns, tanks or rockets, but an equally powerful weapon is the reliable communication of advancement at the front and the saved lives of comrades, taking the enemy by surprise and recapturing positions, timely deployment of reserves and delivered ammunition in all this is a huge merit of our soldiers communications officers armed with communications our army is stronger glory to the communications troops of the armed forces of ukraine agree on the rules of communication with a loved one in the army when you will be online who is calling and at what time how long can a military person

not go online communication in which cases to turn to commanders or comrades keep calm and support each other so that for us independence a year hand in hand side by side we acquire it every day born in the depths of our earth mined mitzcha of our hands we direct its carbon its warmth in each the ukrainian home in potichok, we fight at the cost of our own blood, it is more valuable naftogaz of ukraine , we strengthen independence, i am anastasia dalla and this is the program my story, an interview about how ukrainians hold on, what they feel, and most importantly, how they act during the great war, today we are listening to a story about cinema and

about war serhiy karnaukh and taras tkachenko . i congratulate you, gentlemen, right away, i want to say that you are the authors of the film that will be released on the independence day of ukraine, august 24, on the air of the national telethon. the only news is that you shot this film. specially for the tv channel inter and today we will talk about this film in general and about ukrainian cinema in general and its new cooperation with the armed forces of ukraine, which is completely new in our conditions. yes, mr. taras, i know you as a well-known director who, before the full-scale invasion , shot a full-length film very successfully you had projects black crow nest of doves a number of commercial series very successful suddenly i see you in military uniform you

mr. sergey i know that you before the war and now during a full-scale invasion you are by profession serviceman you have always been in the armed forces of ukraine and now you are suddenly presenting a film, that is, this is such an unusual combination of the armed forces of ukraine in your face and the cinematographic forces of ukraine in your face, how did it happen, how did the armed forces become the customer of the film, tell us about this collaboration let's say it in civilian slang well, look, you are not just a customer of a movie , because we are both customers and performers at the same time, right after the liberation of kyiv, there are a lot of people on the spot and movie fans turned to us for something show me where you would have been, how you would have been, and

what happened , etc. hmm. so we traveled, we traveled to the places where we recently fought, we showed this equipment, we talked. at a certain time, our very good, very intelligent colleague serhiy cherevatoy, he is the head of the center, the head of the information countermeasures monitoring center of the command of the ground forces, had an idea and why not really create, not make your own content, that is, not to involve others and do exactly what we see is what we, well, if we had first-hand information and in well, of course, that the armed forces have become on the path of professional cinema and you have attracted a super professional director, we ourselves understood it if we needed some kind of cool quality content that can

well, although not to interrupt, but to counter russian information propaganda at a high level at a high level or at least at a sufficient level really we needed really cool cool specialists and you, mr. taras, could not refuse yes, i understand , first of all, i am not the first who is now serving with cinematographers i think it is already possible to form a separate brigade, then a cinematography battalion, for sure in the armed forces, there are many groups that film and do very important things and record how you responded to the proposal of the armed forces of ukraine. that is, you were a commercially successful director. well it was like that in the past life, you know, a successful commercial director. and now , the war has started and everything has changed, everything has become completely different, and i am happy because, well, i am not with

a machine gun, but i do what i can now, eh for defense and let's talk about this film that you are shooting for the inter tv channel and which all viewers of the national telethon will see on august 24 on independence day. now they play a very , very big role, for example, at the beginning of the invasion, there were about 30% women in the armed forces of ukraine, for example, in our film we showed real warriors, warriors, i am not afraid of this word because

that for example , if you take a romanian girl who joined the army at the age of 18, she was during the anti-terrorist operation, then the oos already showed herself and started, of course, let's say a serviceman. they understand, for example, er, i say to take victoria's damage, she is 24 years old, she already has men under her command and not just under her control. she really controls them, she controls them, she gives commands, they all follow because she is not a girl, she really a warrior, for example, is such a strong example of a classy soldier and sniper of olena bilozerska, she started during the time of the first russian aggression in the 14th year as a really classy sniper, a classy soldier , then because of her health, she became

a volunteer and a really high-quality, strong blogger, blogger and volunteer, but from the very first days of the war, she again asked to join the army, and i am very pleased that by the way, i put a little hand in order to be able to enlist her , and she is again doing her favorite it's her business well sniper from god it's really do you understand this movie this movie is not just about girls it's not just about women it's a movie about real warriors it's an example for everyone and there's another very important point that was also talked about today well, of course, divisions in which woman he was the first, he tries to wash more often, shave more often and so on, and so on, so that he is less fussy, who is always more tidy , and on the one hand, and on the other hand, they say that when such a unit loses a woman, it is

a much more painful blow for them than they lost brothers and this is also such an important psychological phenomenon, why do they try to protect them, try not to risk them somehow, because this loss becomes very, very painful for the guys in the team, sergey, i have a question for you as a person who has a professional life in the armed forces, i communicated with many women in the army and even with a female battalion commander who frankly said that in fact women do not have a place in war, it is not their place with all the gender issues in modern processes, with everything because a woman can fight no worse than a man, but by its very nature, war is no place for a woman. and how does this correlate with the fact that now the armed forces are shooting a film

about women in war, you understand, it’s possible, well, how impossible, that’s how it is, war is not a place for a woman, that’s why er, maybe, er, you will see it even in the credits. we initially made the war not a woman's affair, but it does not disappear, and indeed we state the fact that at the moment he is a woman's affair, the same girl with whom you talked. yes, she is really an adult. i understand that she is deserved to fight like you you say it yourself and you understand if she didn't think that the war was her business she would never have become a combatant for us, she would never have been able to lead, she would have used her legal opportunity in the end and left the armed forces like having children for example , is she

they said that she went to protect the future of her children . that is, she herself went to protect. the truth is that protecting the homeland is a man's duty and a woman's right, that is, a man is obliged to protect his country, and a woman has the right to do so. if women used this right, it's good, great and honorable, but if they used it, if they came, the army, if they have it certain moments and they are true why don't we listen to them why don't we see these women i'm not saying that we made a cut now this topic is actually not uh silenced by it a lot of people are involved there are youtube channels there are a lot of videos about

girls and so on about women i think this is very correct because it is, first of all , it is a very important motivator for men, the truth is that it is very important and what gives men the strength and spirit to fight if a woman who left at home is next to me child and she tells me that she has to fight, then i have no right to say that to buy a certificate from the team , to behave differently, that's one thing, and the other is that we have to see what these women live with and if it gives an opportunity to somehow solve some issues that are still there, for example, bulletproof vests women's uniforms are simple. we have elementary military uniforms , so that you understand . there is no combat uniform for women. why ?

er, he is at the headquarters and walks in the parade, but now everything is changing, including thanks to the fact that we are already drawing attention to this, we already have a field uniform. girls, in principle, they are satisfied with his approbation. that is, we are getting to the point that we have women who are already fighting , and there is really no need to silence it. it needs to be shown that the army has turned its face to women. i want to add that it seems to us that we are lagging behind in this matter no, remember soldier jane, that's right. yes, how many years ago was it? you understand. it was a revolutionary film of its time for the american army. it's true, that is , the gender issues that we are currently solving , you don't have to think that there are two in the world. they were solved long ago, as if they

they are very fresh and painful in some ways. today we are even ahead of other countries in this matter. in some ways, we already serve as a model. it seems to me that documentary cinema is so successful, serious , good, it is somewhat similar to scientific research, scientific research, it is like nature first of all, there is the problem of setting the problem, and then uh, in uh, in the process of uh, researching this problem, there are some ways to solve it, new hypotheses that are proven like this, did you feel like this now with this film, that is, i understood the topic, women, eh -is what was the problem in the army? and what problems did it become clear to you during the filming of this film? and what did you come to in the end ? in our army , the issue of gender is very much developed, and accordingly, we cooperate very much with various

military structures, and in this case, when we decided to shoot this film. we had, even at a certain stage , remained in support of the nato center in ukraine, and they gladly went to the meetings, provided assistance, uh, precisely in order to highlight this problem, because, as you say, revolutionary soldier jane, which came out more than 20 years ago, the film raised that problem for the world and american army. it is not a problem for us. for us, it is already a statement of fact. we have women fighting. they have the right to do it, and they want to do it. shame on those men . which are really hiding well, but i was interested in psychology, you know, because , er, women have these moments that, well, somewhere with whom men, let's say, have a psychologically easier

connection. that is, they are children and many of these girls. well, let's say victoria, who is 24 years old in she still doesn't have a family and there are doctors and snipers in which houses children one says that i saw my daughter once in the two years of the war , all of our girls have a maternal beginning, and you can't take it away , you can't hide it anywhere, it is, it is, it is but this is the right, as you said, yes, the right to war has already become an obligation for them, they understand it and this. well , on the one hand, you know how i am with my husband. maybe a little. i am very pleased that we have such girls in language, this topic with the film

, er, which the viewers of the national marathon will be able to see on our broadcast on independence day. and why should the viewer watch your film? one sentence , how do you formulate a really very difficult question , i don't even know . we don't impose this topic on the audience, but people must know this, people must see this, well, you understand, the same men and women who now continue to live in kyiv. it's as if there is no war, they just they must know that someone is protecting them and i'm not just someone, this is a fragile girl, 1.60 m tall, who weighs up to 40 kg. maybe she has one armored car that weighs only 12 kg, and it runs in it, and not just

runs . peaceful kyiv, which is really already very many people forgot that we have a war and then from a specific example i want to generalize the situation in general in cinema and in this new royal cooperation of the armed forces of ukraine with the cinematographic sphere yes and the question is first for you taras how much i understand at the time of a full scale invasion ukrainian film production was at a period of such a boom, there were many orders and the state finally got involved in the process. yes, and it got involved a long time ago. in addition, you can see that we still have a premiere, a premiere, a premiere , and ukrainian films are released.

then they were like that, but with the full-scale invasion , it all stopped because we understand that it stopped, it stopped, well, we stopped, i worded it wrong. to write a script in ukraine, but then a very complicated process begins with the involvement of a huge number of professionals, this includes castings, the filming process , editing, and post-production, and in the end, where to show it, because cinemas. now, a few days ago, there were four alarms in a row for one during one day in kyiv and cinemas in general said, but we can't . well, how does the movie start , it stops, it starts, it stops, it starts , it stops, so what do you mean, we can't? you know, i mean the process of film production, even at any stage, even at the screening stage, it slips a lot, yes, how, for example

, such star directors, how come you have now joined the armed forces and are working over other projects. as you see it. that is, this is a new stage of the development of ukrainian cinema. let's say this is how the situation will remain. so we will finally stop filming moscow tv series with moscow artists in ukraine. i hope that we will finally be cured of this disease. the distribution market will be redistributed and after the war we will no longer have those orientations when all these producers, creative producers looked towards moscow in terms of aesthetics , everything and so on. now we will be focused on ourselves, on our problems, and more than that, i think that today what we can say the world is much more interesting and important than what the world can say about us, so in terms of creativity, i think that we are in for an upswing, because

films about this war will be made without the participation of the armed forces, they are impossible without, in the end you know that even in the same hollywood, a very large part of the military film was created in cooperation with the united states army, but i did not hear that the pentagon involved steven spielberg there. it was filmed with the large participation of the army, you understand, that is, and the armed forces , they participated a lot in the filming, they helped, but they also formed the messages that were embedded in the movie, anastasia i apologize here the situation in which uh, you conducted it like that is not quite in my opinion the right parallel because hollywood

has never been in a state of war, you understand i am 100% sure, but you say that the pentagon has never involved the same steven communication not on its territory and their citizens didn't suffer and the war wasn't in america itself, if you believe me, i think i am, i'm sure of it, it doesn't even seem that if the war was in america, all of hollywood would work for the army and work for its society, as unfortunately unfortunately, now we an example for the whole world in this, why, unfortunately, because, unfortunately , there is a war on our territory and our people are dying, but it will be a very great experience for other countries as well, and i am glad that we are the law-making body of this fashion and, well, it is so it must be, you understand, when there is a war, when people are dying, the whole society must accumulate around the help of the army, around

the army itself, and it is right in our country, it is the work of the creative forces and the armed forces, and it will also form orders. let's say a new type of hero that will appear in the creative poly and will lead in the movie, that is, the hero has already appeared not in the movie, but he appeared in life, he appeared in what you understand, well, it did not surprise you, it surprises me very much, it is surprising that it was still there two years, three years ago many of my friends i couldn't even imagine what are these people who will go to fight and who will fight bravely for real and you don't know not conditionally let's say yes and now i have such friends from half a phone book, you understand and i think you have

the same movie this is a weapon now including of course of course cinema is a weapon and it is very a strong weapon, at least so that people understand. well, what is really being done at the front, how are our guys fighting, really, what incredible efforts they sometimes make for that, and by the way, about what you said before , it seems to me that something is really taking shape the image of new heroes, the image of new people, and for some reason, you know, i am sure, very sure, that after the war, when the era of great game cinema will come, as taras said, we will have new actors, and really people who have never been involved in cinema will become

famous people, famous people actors are different here's this nonsense to leave and everything else, well, they didn't stand by, even we will have our own situations , we will have our own actors and they will be real soldiers who will not need to play an army , they are an army. do you understand these are people who, well, if i'm sorry, many of them just someone from the village was called up someone was pulled from the machine they were mobilized but you understand you see that this person can act in a movie they want others they want others they they are deep they are deeper than our actors very often you understand gentlemen i am grateful for your position grateful for the fact that military and creative people have found a common cause, implemented it and are bringing it to a logical conclusion in the form of ready-made projects, which we can already see , people are watching very cool, and in the form of a new project

, war, women's affairs, which the viewers of the national telethon will soon be able to see see thank you for what you are doing and well, we will wait for new mm movie masterpieces of the armed forces of ukraine and cinematographers thank you this was the my story program and today we listened to a story about cinema and about war from serhiy karnaukh and taras tkachenko to be continued every hour on the air of unified news, we follow the main events of ukraine and the world, only

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