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[000:00:00;00] this experience to send their prisoners, their enemies of the people, also to the goods of death in golovi and today already modern ukraine attacks the regime that became the heir of both these totalitarian dictatorships of both of these human-hating practices the road to auschwitz the road to the vela leads to the deer and we now join our marathon maksym ryvyakina expert and kharkiv human rights group slava ukraine p maksym heroyamko well , the initiative of the tribunal for putin will present an appeal to the international
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criminal court tomorrow in kharkiv due to the shelling by russia of our civilian objects and our civilian population , we would like to ask you about what we can get as a result of this appeal , as well as how actively various international human rights institutions and institutions aimed at punishing russian criminals will respond and act. on march 22, i document the facts of war crimes committed by the russian military . now more than 50,000 war crimes have been documented, and more than 805% of them relate to attacks on civilian objects and the civilian population. that is, it is one of the most massive crimes, which is committed equally in all territories where hostilities are taking place. this submission refers specifically to the shelling of the territory that was under
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the control of ukraine and was shelled from the territory of the russian federation or from the territory occupied by the russian federation. and this crime why is it urgent to draw the attention of the office of the prosecutor of the international criminal court because these crimes are not investigated in ukraine due to the overloading of investigative bodies with all mass of crimes and because of the difficulty of establishing all the circumstances of the occurrence of these crimes, and because the shelling is carried out from uncontrolled territories, these shellings are mainly carried out in areas where it is difficult to get to and collect primary information and obtain primary evidence of such shellings , to conduct all the necessary examinations, and it is difficult to establish witnesses because as a rule , the witnesses are servicemen of the russian federation, and therefore we need to draw attention to this most massive crime as
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shelling of the civilian population and civilians objects of the office of the prosecutor of the international criminal court so that they have already identified the culprits and issued suspicions about the arrest of the commanders of those units that carried out these attacks because according to international humanitarian law , the commanders who either directly gave the order or were aware of it are responsible e of this or that shelling and were able to make them e-e so that they did not take place today this conference on the creation of such a tribunal is being held in kyiv and it is attended by professional people, experts from of international criminal law, those who know about human rights, that is, those who can actually determine what crimes were committed and what punishment
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the perpetrators should bear for them, and the rest about how to determine who is guilty of all this. because we understand that when we say is russia to blame or is putin to blame? in fact, it is not just one person, because there are many who, on this ladder , vertically transmit the order, there are direct executors, there are those who close their eyes and allow these criminal orders to be carried out accordingly, so that the crime takes place, as you think, which ones there are chances that as a result they will be punished if not all who will be brought to justice, the majority, you understand, there is currently a conference on the creation of tribunals , there are many such conferences, we now have a single procedure regarding international humanitarian law, this is the international criminal court, while we have to communicate about war crimes crimes against humanity exclusively under this institution, when
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the new legal tribunals will be formalized, we will also look at their regulations and already move accordingly to their procedures, but still our view, as shown by the practice of the tribunal regarding the former yugoslavia, still the procedures will be more or less similar and still between international humanitarian law and the norms of international humanitarian law, they will remain the same, so some nuances from a procedural point of view are possible point of view, but from a material point of view, regarding the fact that i am a crime and it will not change, it is possible that there will be some new interpretation, but i think that it will not cross the line with the practice that was in the same international tribunal regarding of the former yugoslavia, it is actually important that we would like to ask you about how much they harass the enemy, so we understand all legal procedures, so in russia there is such
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a favorite proverb: no thief is caught. it was unpleasant and one might say painful how seriously the issuance of a warrant for his arrest limited his movement in various international forums. therefore, we will not take the legal procedures lightly, so to speak, until the criminal we fully understand that we would like to see more sanctions, we would like to see more sanctions against those structures that cooperate with russia, in particular, these or other trade , or other manufacturers of so -called civilian goods in quotation marks, and is there, for example, a connection here of international justice, which investigates the crimes of those who are not going to surrender into the hands of international justice, that is, this is this aspect
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. look, here it intersects, well, let's say so , prudence and a more political decision. and when we prove that the suspect is putin or mrs. lviv bilova, it affects the image and becomes a kind of catalyst for making political decisions, such as sanctions against affiliated persons on affiliated persons from lviv and belova and any other suspect, and in terms of effectiveness, let's say that the mechanism of the international criminal court is so imperfect. there are examples when they were responsible, but it was not fast, and therefore not fast, and therefore we must also look at what proposals are given to us regarding alternative tribunals. however, now we we have a single legal mechanism and we must work according to this mechanism , we have no alternatives. for now, when
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they appear, we will consider other alternatives and already move within the framework of such procedures. we understand that such collection of information and processing of this information are carried out by relevant qualified people, and whether can ordinary ukrainians join such a gathering for this information, because we understand that experts have not been to every settlement, have not seen or witnessed every crime, and actually to record these crimes need eyewitnesses, as you say, the russians, uh, the russian occupiers, you don’t ask them how to be with us, but look, now we have a lot of axis teams working in ukraine that collect evidence directly from witnesses and victims of war crimes, if you if you are a witness or a victim of a war crime, you can
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contact either the typhoid initiative on the website , there are contacts you can contact, or through the website of the kharkiv human rights group if it is a victim in mariupol kharkiv oblast or kyiv oblast or e-e through the network of the reception of the ukrainian helsinki union from the person’s arms if it is another region in our country. each region has its own responsibility for recording war crimes. more than 30 public organizations are involved in this initiative. so, if you were a witness or a victim or suffered or have information about any crimes committed by russians on the territory of ukraine against ukrainians, you can e-e find the relevant pages, respectively , information on the internet kharkiv human rights group gel ukrainian the helsinki union inform them and they will know
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what to do with this information. maksym revyakin, an expert of the kharkiv human rights group, was with us. thank you, maksym. now we have a short break, and then we will talk about russia. from the ban, which are like a zashmorg around the russians and putin , personally turn on the championship on megogo the invincible oleksandr usyk against daniel speed and intelligence against destructive power
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has the price and its excessive juice must be paid and we are paying the war in ukraine is the main topic for ukrainians victory and loss analysis and forecasts politics and geopolitics serhii rudenko and the guests of his program will talk about all this people who
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have information and shape public opinion, people who defend ukraine and create the future, the main and interesting thing in the program is the verdict of serhiy rudenko from monday to friday at 20:00, repeat at 12:10 on channel 155, we are now adding it to our informational and analytical broadcasting and luke ponomarev, a russian oppositionist, a former deputy of the russian state duma, kudos to ukraine dear mr. ponomarev, we congratulate you as a hero , kudos to the good day well, what does the boy want in tambov chiki-chiki-chiki chiki and putin went to rostov so we understand that the key story it was rather to demonstrate that putin continues to keep everything under the control of the russian federation, to check whether putin really had
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rostov . in any case , rostov is not only about this holocaust, but also about the prigozhin rebellion. so when in rostov they took, so to speak, the entire chiefs of the entire military branches of the russian federation and put them on a pencil and boringly talked with them, in particular, it is about the first deputy of gugsh, and so on down the list and here putin uttered a word to you from the bunker well , in fact, first of all, it is necessary to demonstrate that he is still alive in this, not everyone is sure right now, well, but there is also certainly courage - this is because
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he was offered in rostovie, but putin was not there for a long time and he had to go to the headquarters of the military. there is also the main headquarters of the so-called special operations to demonstrate his determination that he controls the situation and we also understand that there has already begun a certain a purge of the main echelons of the russian military leadership and that there were several generals who were dismissed . well, it was important to personally look at everything. it was important. please tell shtambov, he may want to go to rostov, but he will not go to brics. and in general, this is putin's geography such restrictions have narrowed down a lot, so despite the thought that he is all-powerful, he must understand that he is now extremely
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limited . is the country limited or within the country? to recommend something, as we understand that not only in ukraine, we are now thinking about his future and about the possible mutiny there and everything else. they warn where he appears, they don't know if the ukrainians can launch drones there or something else, but they also don't know yet what could be in his own environment, that anything could
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happen between generals eh can can there may be some kind of mutiny as well and that is why of course he is trying to make this visit suddenly without warning and to keep everything very short, well, according to the panel, i would like to ask you about another aspect, but sometimes you have to respect the former president of the russian federation, who has now sunk to the level of, well, below the warlords, it is said about medvedev, who is now also a member of the soviet security council, who now oversees, so to speak, the russian defense industry . well, he went to this for a long time in order to outline the formula for the russian war against ukraine, an existential war, that is, i am talking about this warned a couple of months ago that everything goes to him , medvedev voiced a similar formula, they accepted it, how serious is it? is this some kind of future fantasy of his, or was he instructed to simply make this whole thing public
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? and then they will already use their apparatus to push the russians realities before the implementation of this formula. well, in my opinion , there is no one there. there is an ongoing and growing competition between medvedev and mishustyan. there are two alternative figures of the probable future of russia and mishustyan. as prime minister, he is the leader of the so-called systemic liberals, earlier, this position in putin's entourage was messed up by medvedev, but he was de facto fired with it, and he is now trying to unite security forces around him because of the fact that he is the deputy and the only deputy of putin in the russian security council, he is such a figure who can
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lead the country on behalf of these security forces and he is trying to become his own for them, we saw him there now uh, there's uh, material, uh, i think bumber is a bit uh, already many russian security forces are telling putin that let's release shoigu, let's strengthen the special operation there. let's take some decisive steps. well, medvedev is trying to look like their speaker and the refrigerator. well, you just understand, that's the formula. now i will quote this criminal medvedev. therefore, the ukrainian state must be completely destroyed. more precisely, so that
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not even ashes remain of it. if it takes years and even decades, then let it be , medvedev wrote, we have no choice, either we will destroy them or a collective action. eventually will tear russia apart and perish, well, no one needs this with us and again talks about the complete disposal of our state. well, we understand that little depends on medvedev here, the key role is played by the armed forces of ukraine , the general staff of ukraine, the ukrainian people in order not to allow medvedev, but in in any case, he has not driven so hard for a long time, and we understand that now the current formula of the russian national idea boils down to a war with ukraine, that is, they set such a bar for themselves and voiced such
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a road sign where they are going to go well, accordingly, that is, if medvedev is fighting for survival, then why does he look so ridiculous, that is, he could try to implement similar things during the audience with putin or during the meeting of the council of security, no, he still voices this while trying to lead the war party how effective will he be in this, well, his main target audience is the security forces, and i think that calling it a national idea is wrong, it goes to the security forces, and it is for them that he tries to say all this. well, what they have a variety of big dreams there, there are new ones, we know about it, and there mr. petrushev , uh, expresses himself well, it’s just from very crazy uh, positions and many, many others, uh , medvedev tries to be their public
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face and express the breath of the name and this to hold the leadership there myself well, i believe that this does not correspond to his real position, it only reflects the ongoing struggle in putin's entourage, it is a sign that it is intensifying and that the situation in the entourage heap on i very unstable spice at the moment, no one is eternal, in fact, what candidates are actually being considered by the security forces, yes, the fsb special services, and the military, so who can they see as the successor, as the one who will continue, and we understand that the removal of putin is not actually, as antin said, changes in
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russia. so it could be another more deterioration of the situation well, look at the goal of the existing russian elites and the existing entourage of putin, whatever systemic liberals will it be the security forces and their task is to preserve the system and that is why they are very limited from the point of view of the possible candidates, they cannot appoint anyone, er, it should be a procedure that retains its legitimacy, er, and corresponds to the constitution, and that is why i believe that the competition is between er, two people, between the misushkas and medved, there are simply more other candidates which can be lictimized due to the existing legislative procedures, they simply
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do not exist . and from the point of view of other alternatives, well, this is revolutionary alternation and evolution. revolutionary alternative. er, such a figure will appear suddenly, it will not er echo in the public sphere , er, it’s just dangerous for such an er figure. well, there is another scenario. i believe that we need to work on exactly this scenario, it is revolutionary the scenario from the side of the rammstein coalition from the side of ukraine eh, this war can be stopped only if we destroy the very position of the president of russia eh if the russian state of the federation is destroyed, it will be completely rebuilt on new principles , that is, the empire must be destroyed, the only
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force that can do this do it these n whose volunteers are now being organized in the ranks of the armed forces of ukraine, who can do it at the end of the war ilya looks, we understand that drones of unknown origin began to fly to moscow, began to be neutralized with the help of air defense systems and so on, it is very difficult to actually say who is launching them, maybe china, maybe mongolia, maybe ukraine we do not know the baltics are arriving and will be arriving more and more often. well, we understand that sooner or later they will work in one way or another, to what extent does this story work on the psychological and psycho-emotional state of the residents moscow is so because the city is large, 15 million inhabitants of the agglomeration, we understand that it is a key logistics center, we understand that if this or that revolutionary situation happens
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, it will first of all matter if it happens in moscow, and that's how the mysterious arrivals of drones affect this, well, 100% of the rules and here the main question is what will happen in moscow in the capital eh but i believe that the main thing here is no influence eh we have on the population of moscow and what influence citrona and all these events eh have on the elites eh because their the sense of danger they feel of the software war, the main thing is that we need to force them to do something and when this movement starts to hit the right point and i think that we are on the right path
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, well, gifts on the moscow network, this is just a symbol of the business elite of moscow, the fall of drones on the rublevka is also very, very important. because that's where they all live, and this creates the necessary pressure, but you have to understand that it's not, it's not, it won't happen tomorrow. uh, a huge change in the military situation at the front, some significant defeat, and i think that it will happen soon because, thanks to you, we have fresh information, by the way, the russian mass media are spreading, and the ukrainian mass media are verifying and , uh, they are also publishing a report that an unknown drone attacked the military airfield of the shaykovka in the kaluga region, let's hope that we
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will minus another tu-22 ilya ponomaryov russian oppositionist former deputy of the state duma of russia well, now we solemnly pass the floor to our colleagues anna eva melnyk knows about everything that is most important at this hour and now i want to share it with you for information, anna eva, you have a word. congratulations, colleagues. thank you for your work. the editorial office is in ukraine and i will tell the world. volodymyr zelenskyi met with queen margarita ii of denmark and members of the royal family. on behalf of the ukrainian people, the president thanked the royal family for the humanitarian efforts of danish and international organizations operating in ukraine. in copenhagen, the head of state addressed

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