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[000:00:00;00] all of ukraine well, plus one more thing, this topic would be. probably this question was older there a year ago, but in the last six months we have struck so many blows in different points of the crimea that, well , the sacred has disappeared, it no longer has any sacredness , and we are talking about the and whether we can to cut off all logistical routes already during this offensive. will it happen in the spring, that is, i think that the very fact that and practically, the ukrainian armed forces show that there are no red lines, that crimea is ukraine, and when those politicians who would like to somehow deny it it they see no reaction from moscow, they obviously understand that this is far from a red line. it seems to me that in general the concept of a red line will disappear, including the possibility for ukraine to conduct military operations against military
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facilities on the territory of russia. how long will it take for us to receive missiles? with a large radius of action and you will be able to destroy logistics there with barracks because there are warehouses airfields in the depths of russia, they have no doubt that this will happen so far this is all possible and prospects and those incidents with drones that took place on the territory of russia or again and in crimea, in occupied crimea, it was precisely ukrainian weapons, purely ukrainian developments , the same baby that we talked about so much, that is, we are talking about the fact that they do not use western weapons in order to strike crimea we have started what is the task that the west sets before itself. well, if the west wants to punish the aggressor country and bring it to justice, then this is a very strange situation
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. that is, we can punish it with ukrainian weapons , but we cannot do it with nato weapons, this is a very strange position, this speaks of the fact that either the west is poor because he wants to bring russia to justice, but either putin manages to bluff every time and achieve the fact that regardless of any crimes he is active, they blew up the kakhovsky dam. in chernihiv against the civilian population, any crimes will not have an adequate reaction, because if you insert the task that nato emphasizes every time that we cannot allow to buy into a direct conflict with russia or that we do not seek to change the regime.
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why are different nato allies nervous? to strain there well, if the task is not to change the regime or punish the aggressor, then everyone will look for some opportunities to enrich themselves, which they often do even with the sanctions of russia, this is such a bad policy and it is expensive for the taxpayers of the west, because we could having actually received much more effective weapons for the same money, we could have achieved tremendous results already this year, but now almost everyone has come to the understanding that the next company there spring-summer we will already have aviation we will have more long-range missiles, but this means that already this year, putin can be sure that this is a concern , as some sources in the white house said that they do not want to give long- range missiles, because then he will perceive it as
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an escalation. i'm sick of these formulations, we've been hearing them for a year, because if putin hears that someone doesn't want to, er, take steps that he will consider escalation, well, it will continue as i started, sir, thank you very much for joining the broadcast oleg rybachuk the head of the center of joint actions was with us the direction of communication thank you let's hold on and see you tomorrow on the air freedom life pain can become an obstacle on the stairs not with my knees from knee pain try dolgit cream dolgit cream anesthetizes, reduces swelling and improves joint mobility, you can even walk dolgit is the only one yellow cream for pain in the joints and with muscle spasms dolgit antispasmodic tablets to
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, a defender, a defender congratulations 13:10 on the espresso tv channel, this means that now it's time for the world during the war program, my name is yuri fizer, and as always with my guests, i will be professional, they will analyze the professional accordingly, they will answer my question about what happened last week and what we should prepare for next week week well, next week, this week, which is ahead, it's independence day, it's obvious that russia is going to prepare something very bad . this is an important week and you still
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need to prepare for it, so today i will introduce my next first guest in just a moment, but now there are a few things that i must say at the beginning of each program, so you can watch us on the air on the espresso tv channel, where are we still on the government is not on the air well, obviously, youtube also has two channels on youtube, created specifically for our program world during the war . here it is. we ask a question to which we want to hear your answer today, there will be no such question today is monday well and a-a general youtube channel for the espresso tv channel so to everyone who watches their youtube on the network where we have not been turned off, a big thank you to those who watches on youtube please like if you like the program don't like if you don't like it although i'm sure you will like it because with such guests you can't not
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like it well and please comment it is extremely important for me personally for us on the espresso tv channel we need to know your opinion, and this is also important in order to be able to promote the a-a program the world is under war in the complex algorithm of youtube . more people will learn about this program and more people will be able to watch it well, i am ready to introduce my first guest evgeny magda director of the institute of world politics mr. evgeny i congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes mr. yury good day mr. ivan as always very happy to see you on the air thank you for agreeing to join today watch let's start right away and with direct language and which will affect i hope for a conversation very seriously yes last week
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on friday one of the russian oppositionists although i don't like to call them oppositionists because i don't have liberals there are no oppositionists in russia, but let garika sparov he gave an interview to the ukrainian publication rbc, a long interview, i cut only one piece out of it, let's listen to this piece , then i'll ask you a question now there is and watching on social networks, there is a level , i will not say that this is an increase in support for the war. well , this is a habit, in fact, for many people , it is something. there is a limit. there is a war. well, you are starting to work. you need to help. if our country is at war, even a separate one, even a so-called liberal, they are screaming about the honor of the flag, that's us , that's it, that's it, the regime is not experiencing internal problems today, and
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what kind of person, if only once, show that the whole this is the 20-year activity of all these liberal human rights structures, the fixation regime used them in order to prepare for aggression, war , mr. yevhen, well , look, well , it’s scary. we don't have politicians on us at all, no one pays attention to us, no one asks us, at first they had this before the war. then there was some fear because they were intimidated not to speak against putin. now this is a habit and we in ukraine very often say victory victory victory this is how it will be and we really want it to be was less blood and as soon as possible, but after this victory there will remain the habituation of those people who live on our eastern borders. ivan, what should we prepare for in view of this habituation of russia? well , first of all, we should not just prepare for victory, but bring victory closer. i think that
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it's absolutely obvious and approximate, no matter how banal it sounds everyone is where he can do it because, well, everyone has their own field of activity i don't like the phrase everyone has their own front because people die and are injured only on one front where the war is directly going on and that too it is necessary to understand, therefore, but on the other hand, the war is not only for territories and not so much for the territory, the war is about substitutes for attitudes, for beliefs, for directions of action, and we must understand that russia must be dismantled, we must convey this to our allies, we must to convey the thesis that the restoration of territorial integrity is a mandatory program after which negotiations may begin, for which the necessary conditions may be created, but talk about some exchanges
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of territories for joining nato or exchanging territories so that lukashenko becomes president instead of zelensky or other fantastic scenarios we will not because ukrainian society, citizens of ukraine , millions of citizens of ukraine proved after february 24, 2022 that they do not accept, do not tolerate, and will not accept such scenarios from the word in general and this should be a sufficiently clear message with which we should work, which we should use and with which we should interact, full stop, all other theses, in this case, they can have an internal character, the thesis that we should not dehumanize russia - that's you you know nonsense, for one simple reason, we do not have a state program for the dehumanization of russians, unlike russia, in which
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the state policy of dehumanization of ukrainians is emphasized by the state, and has been going on for a good 9 years since the same crucified boy slavic in the summer of 2014, we don't have such programs and i don't think there will be any, but the losses, the sufferings, the experiences that our fellow citizens feel, they create the appropriate emotional fund and those who bake to pick a crop on a pro-russian field in some future elections. he must understand that this crop can be very bitter for him because, of course , our citizens prove that they are smarter than our politicians or those who want to become
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politicians, and yevhen is right, we have a demon , we will dismantle this poor country, but today you know, before the broadcast, i read what the chancellor of germany, olaf scholz, deutsche welle wrote about this, what he said about the fact that germany has never spoken about this, this is not our method. politicians make such statements, it is possible that we are not talking about us, not about ukrainians, but about the west. and i will explain everything very simply here. the defeat that ukraine will inevitably inflict on russia in the russian-ukrainian war
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can and should create conditions for, for example realization of the right of the nations living on the territory of the russian federation to self-determination, and in this case there are no strange things to pay attention to, that is, in this regard, everything will be absolutely normal , the conditions will be created when it will be necessary to hold russia, that someone said that gorbachev would be overthrown in 1991 or yeltsin, but in 1992 , bush's legs and other food parcels flew at the beginning just like that, and russia took advantage of this opportunity. for 30 years, russia formed the image of a supposed, understandable , correct partner, and the events of 2008 in georgia was not taught by the west because it is impossible to trust russia, the events that began on february 24, 2022 in ukraine must be taught because lessons cannot be left unlearned, they must
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be implemented, and this is actually the mission of humanity so that the lessons we learn are carried out do your homework and put these tasks into practice no one calls you, have you heard calls for genocide from any ukrainian or western politicians russia no well, of course, no, but from russian pseudo-politicians calls for extermination ukrainians, how many times have you heard more than one, it's true, there are many more, i'm just simply showing the general picture of the world, no, ukraine, ukrainians, just like our western partners, they do not advocate the physical destruction of ukrainians, i emphasize, they do not
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advocate and will not advocate, we must advocate for the dismantling of russia as a criminal pseudo-state entity, and for this purpose we must now shape the narratives of the baltic-black sea region, the narratives of the mediterranean, talk about the imperial narratives on which today's russian empire, give me the federation, it is officially called the federation, they are criminal, they are human haters , they are implemented by criminal methods. methodically, with the methodical approach you are talking about , because president zelenskyi
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is on another tour today. he is talking a lot about ukraine. is this exactly what we are talking about? no, we are not. we talk about it practically we don't talk about it more representatives of the peoples of russia who feel enslaved who are starting to talk about it, but this discussion is at the starting stage i would say volodymyr zelenskyi has enough information i would say such a practical kind to inform about the creation of an aviation coalition, further search for new allies, search for new support is in principle the right step because diplomacy well, i would say diplomacy is exclusively virtual one-sided, it is already i have somewhat exhausted myself and i need to move to another level of higher quality, but the creation
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of an aviation coalition is in principle equal to this, although this coalition is also. at first glance, because the creation of this coalition shows that our allies are aware that the war is dragging on and that in ukraine it is necessary to help here and now , and as actively as possible, and this help is not always of the nature we would like it to be. and we do not always get what and as we would like it, but it is not for us to complain about it, because at the time of february 24 , 2022, we did not have any agreements at all on receiving such assistance. that is, we must use what we receive with it
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, act accordingly, win with it, there just has to be a humanistic component ukraine must speak, dear friends , by providing us with military and technical assistance, you are first of all saving the lives of ukrainians. ukraine in today's conditions is a point in the struggle between good and evil, a point that achieves serious success and shows the world how you know how well-sharpened a scalpel is, well, doctors say scalpels, and mr. yuri's daughter will tell you, they probably don't sharpen them, but they should be like this with uneven, uh, these so that the edges of the wounds are not even. but uh, i think that
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we are like a scalpel in the hands of the civilized world , which should dissect russia and show all this devilish and inside in this world and our function in this is ours this is ours if you want a pass to the civilized world. look, you have already seen this. a little earlier, a few minutes ago, they said that there should be some kind of lesson from everything we are doing now, when we are cutting with this scalpel, there must be a result and it will be 100%, it is already beginning. slowly, but it is, but for example, russians, are they not masochists for some reason, i started with this, with this quote by kasparov, who says about addiction, we can kill them and some regions, for example, the north caucasus, they will rebel, but some regions somewhere there
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deep, deep, deep, in the eternal frost, they will be cut and they will . well, it may hurt them, but they will try to get pleasure from the fact that it hurts them, this cannot be. yuri, using sexological terminology in expert political assessments - this is a popular but not very correct gesture, i do not think that they are masochists. i think that the peoples of the russian empire, as well as the ukrainians and belarusians and the peoples of the baltic countries , suffered from statelessness for a long time, we did not have the opportunity within the borders of one's own state to go through the path of mistakes and transformations that many other european nations have gone through, the same poles, the same hungarians, the same germans, we did not go through this path, although germany as a single state was formed in the last third of the 19th century
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, which italy we should not form some kind of inferiority complex for ourselves. after all, in the 21st century, ukraine has proven that it is capable of repelling a much stronger enemy and defeating it, putting it in its place . in my opinion, this is an achievement. this is, in my opinion, a success, and we have this success will be developed as much as possible, mr. yevgeny, and it will be. look at one more hmm , another interesting piece of information that i read . referring to them that in a conversation with some american officials , the secretary of state of the united states of america
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, anthony blinking, said that for putin, crimea is a red line that he will not cross, what could this mean, because i tried myself about it to think from the point of view of precisely these american sources, which means that putin will use nuclear weapons well, he will not use nuclear weapons , well, most likely, putin that putin will make some concessions to ukraine and then start negotiations, what can this mean in general? you see these sources who told blinkin they achieved their goal, they forced you to look at different options for the development of the situation. i think that in principle, by conveying information in this way, they tried
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to achieve this goal. this is exactly the way to talk about the things that are happening in the administration of joseph biden, in fact, this sacralization of crimea , which is, well, it is being carried out very well , for example, by the provision of american missiles that will allow the destruction of the kerch bridge why because this is the destruction of the kerch bridge, it will allow to check how much these assumptions will be realistic . well, we understand that the kerch bridge is a needle in putin's egg, so give us long-range weapons and help us destroy the infrastructure object that russia is. is actively using it in its aggressive war against ukraine, and you will see whether crimea is
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a red line for putin or not . we understand that it is quite difficult for russia to scare ukrainians into using nuclear weapons after the victims and destruction that russia has already caused on ukrainian territory. this is absolutely understandable. but the western the world of vinceres it still reacts sensitively to cases of nuclear blackmail therefore, we have to change the paradigm of what is happening as much as possible and we have to talk about the fact that our dear western partners, we are with yours with or without help, we will fight for the complete restoration of the territorial integrity of ukraine, and we even have an argument from mr. putin, who repeatedly said after the signing of the so-called great russian-ukrainian treaty that there are no territorial claims against ukraine and all that the russians say
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about the crimean people of crimea and everything else this is all delusional nonsense and we will be able to prove it convincingly it will be necessary in court and it will be necessary by military force and there are no contradictions here today's moment in the theaters of the russian-ukrainian war, because we clearly understand that it is the defense forces of ukraine that are currently the guarantor of the formation of a favorable and terrible position for ukraine in the future negotiations on the end of the russian-ukrainian war, and amen to that , we can put a full stop mr. yevhen, thank you very much for participating in today's program, as always professionally, as always, everything that needed to be told was laid out on the shelves. evgeny magman, yes , the director of the institute of world politics was my first guest today, they talked about
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