[000:00:00;00] the west can't afford to think like that because it's afraid to even think about russia's nuclear weapons and it's afraid to even think about the possibility of putin's criminal regime losing control over nuclear weapons . forces the defense forces to move on with the risk of uh losses with uh such bloody fierce battles but this is moving towards the de-occupation of the state. by the way , there is a lot of discussion on russian television about the fact that western weapons are on fire, we'll see.

what will happen to the planes, although we remember that putin said that if the planes are provided to ukraine, they will take off somewhere in other countries. well, for example, in poland or in lithuania or , er, in hungary. well, i don't know, somewhere along the perimeter in romania, they will be legal goals for russia to strike this territory , but what russian propagandists said and say about the so-called, as they consider, holy war against nato, we will hear in a small fragment and see the president of russia where the germans are burning and who is possible to add the most historical and the tailor bends, they bend, bend, and will bend further because, as russia said, we did not once, this is the right thing, we know what we stood for, they entered an absolute total hopeless dead end for the entire second

half of the xxi, they offered options in order to well, no so much probably to save 7 face where it is and it is impossible to call it a face anymore, but simply so that the peace was necessary in the tope that we prepared the request this was maria zakharova, a representative of the ministry of foreign affairs, she was included in the russian propaganda channel, you mentioned that the west is not planning to change putin's regime and you say that this change must take place in lavsholz, the federal chancellor of germany says that the west is not planning to make efforts to change the political regime in the russian federation, you know, i remember the beginning of the 90s, when the leaders of the united states of america publicly said that we were not interested in the collapse of the soviet union , well, literally six months or a year passed there and

the soviet union did not exist, is it possible to perceive these statements, which mandra repeats at the institution, as a hope that, well, russia has also developed in accordance with it, the regime will collapse , well, the west is trying to say that we are not going to remove putin by force, but putin's regime, as well as a historical interval as, er, the logical conclusion of the russian- of the ukrainian war, mr. serhiy, if you look at the panorama everywhere, the fall of the ruble is unprecedented now, yes, the decrease in oil prices , the decrease in the activity of putin's friends , yes, even the so-called useful idiots, yes, which we have in europe in the form of hungary, austria, yes yes, at least they have become much quieter, erdoğan is beginning to understand the toxicity of putin, the total toxicity of putin, er, india does not reach more than

the level of assistance, let's say the sale of bearings , which are very necessary in russia for the production of weapons , but are not, er, strictly speaking, components for military purposes yes, china is quite restrained, and the appearance of china in saudi arabia at this big meeting means that there are indeed certain signs . well, that and even the fact that a warrant has been issued for putin's arrest and putin is still afraid to go i was afraid to go to the brics meeting in south africa. yes, these are all very significant signs, but there are also signs from the west . look, when general kavoli, the commander of the united nations in europe, told us in april that 98% of the weapons for the offensive are us

well, we see that there is no 98%, and there is not even 70 %, and the signs are very simple, you can say nothing at all to the west about putin’s regime, but simply do your job , provide missiles, provide planes, provide combat support helicopters, provide operational-tactical operational- strategic level drones, this is not done uh or rather, how it is done, we see how yes, very gradually, and the tightening of the nuts from the west is happening. well, they think that this is such filigree surgical work. and why are we indignant because every day we learn about the death of our brothers, about the death of soldiers, officers, and not only about the blows such as strikes on chernihiv yes, the same, let's say if we got missiles. by the way, not

only the ones i mentioned are cruise missiles , ballistic missiles, some missiles and land missiles. anti-ship missiles why not to drive the ships of the black sea fleet, which calibers are launched in peaceful cities, drive them there into the bay in novorossiysk so that they sit there and do not come forward. this is roughly the story, the west does not like us, yes it does, and of course we are very grateful to it, because without the support of the west, ukraine would simply fall and there would be no more of our

state, but the west, which has already invested huge investments, he is trying to educate ukraine constantly trying to educate constantly in order to probe whether ukraine is ready at some stage to abandon some of its flights or find some compromises , this is definitely one of these catalysts, and i think that this is what forced president zelensky to 23 year to take a serious look at the defense complex itself, it was a positive moment, unfortunately , four years of his tenure in this field were lost, yes, but now opportunities have appeared to adjust the situation at least a little and we see that the security service did not

lose the 22nd year. by the way, i thought that the state completely lost the 22nd year, but there are such small oases, so to speak, in quotes, if you can express it that way well, the security service of ukraine has actually developed a new branch, yes, the branch of maritime drones, now it’s about improving aviation drones, and i know that the accelerator of the ministry of defense was created 2 months ago and , in particular, took on the creation of powerful ground-based robotic complexes with elements such programming and artificial intelligence, that's why the situation is changing and it's well, it's probably very good. thank you, mr. valentin, for the conversation . it was valentin, a laborer, a military expert. friends , we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms for those who are currently watching us on youtube i remind you that we are conducting a survey today, we are asking you about the following: why

is the west planning to change putin's regime? options for the answer: is afraid of a nuclear war, is afraid of the unpredictability of russia and hopes that an agreement with putin is your option if you please write in the comments below this video, we are in touch with political technologist oleksiy holobutsky p. i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our broadcast. congratulations, let's define the definitions first, what is a victory for ukraine, what is a defeat for putin or russia, each to each from western leaders, it can be completely different answers, so much has already been written about the fact that in the victory of ukraine there is already a confrontation with the largest country in the world with the second army there of the world of everything else. so we

kept our independence from the sovereignty of this there is already a victory and for example , the question is whether the exit of ukraine to the borders of 1991 will be a victory in such a global sense. other rules of international security are the second world war, there is victory , the destruction is literally the destruction of the country, what address is the nuremberg tribunal, this is the long-term occupation of germany by various countries, and this is the victory of such a victory. i am afraid that what is this

the ideas of western leaders are too fantastic, so to speak. it's just, well, i've been saying this for a long time that unfortunately for us , politics in this war for the west remains russia-centric, not ukrainian-centric. they think about what will happen to russia, and more than what will happen with ukraine as a whole and this again, i understand that it is unpleasant to hear and it is unpleasant to even think about it, but it is true, it is a nuclear state, it is a huge state, it is a state that very often played, especially in the last 100 years, a serious role in geopolitical schedules right on the entire continent here and you can't get rid of it, so to speak. and i heard your previous speaker behave like this. i studied very well the policy of the united states during

the second world war in relation to the soviet union , lend lease and so on. uh, roosevelt, and he didn’t let any commission come, and if the commission came to check what was there with help, then they were just there, well, they just drove the skid and so on. and in principle, everything about these stalins is almost immediately, well, roughly speaking, they didn’t give only what the americans couldn't produce at that time, that's what they could n't produce, but you didn't give everything else, and of course the behavior that we have now is because of the fact that, well, for america, audi in ukraine and russia is not a priority task in principle but again, we have to start from those realities, just don't be fascinated and don't build a strategy of our behavior based on some rosy hopes. again, there is nowhere

. we hear about what western politicians say , what they say recently. so what should we do? to give the territory so that we should look at it, we have such um, a constant example that we are dragging back and forth in independence of the context israel in europe, there are many police , many just politicians who are not marginalized, and well , serious politicians of the left wing, what well , absolutely well, how let's say that they support the struggle of the palestinian people for self-determination against the israeli military, this is normal pressure and well t- t- it should be understood that ukraine is not all politicians , not all western society will relate as much as we would like to be a victim of aggression and like everything else , again, in many questions, we must understand that the stereotypes of ukraine that were created since 1991, which

we ourselves are to blame, yes, he really does act on people, so what is that they know about us apart from the maidans of shevchenko and klitschko, i know that this is the country with the biggest corruption of prostitutes and there are a couple of other facts. very often in the west, i very often bought from such an audit office and this for ten years. well, this is the opinion that when you ask ordinary people what ukraine is, well the standard set, so to speak. this is what ukraine is, so once again we must work diplomatically , we must not be

offended. about the fact that it is possible already in september to hold peace negotiations regarding the ukrainian conflict, as he said at the end of september, in his opinion , the negotiations will be determined by the economic considerations of the leadership of the united states of america, which will it is necessary to find a compromise with the enemy, this is the topic of peace negotiations, some territories that should be transferred to russia, because they are already in the constitution of russia, the recognition of a new territorial reality, this topic is actively being pumped to russia and brazil, and there are african countries that have a peaceful plan they drive, but the meaning of all this is that ukraine must give in and remove the fact that part of the territory is under the occupation of the russian federation, is it even possible to predict that with such an idea, at the end

of september, some people will appear and start to articulate this position and incline zelenskyi to this in order to somehow regulate these territorial realities and in what way to formalize it or in principle is this a dead end that simply drives the whole situation and there is simply no way out of this dead end because putin is not going to leave these territories, and we are not going to negotiate with him because he is not leaving our territories, well, of course, this is a very difficult situation that we are in the process of liberating our territories, so to speak, and any conversations on this topic of course they are very painful and very unpleasant but if we do not talk about it, others will talk about it and will offer everything about it , so to speak, there are many levers of influence on

ukraine and the protection of collective action if it comes to such an exhibition that it is better to exchange territory on the question security, again, i did not put what i support or what simply as one of the positions, that is, they can in a certain way well, if not to push, but in a certain way to act, so to speak, i think that it works in this regard and i do not remember the same thing build it seems yes about 3 million people, about the transition to a military economy and about many other things , these are all, so to speak, such thoughts that are thrown at the ukrainian leadership and ukrainian society in order for us, from a western point of view, to measure our

capabilities with our intentions yes, if until the end it is simply read. somewhere from the middle of the summer , the statements of western politicians are read in many publications, if by the end of this year the issue of ukraine's access to the sea of ​​azov is not resolved, well, with the cutting of the entire land corridor russian and on our territory, well, according to their opinion, the situation has all the prospects for a very serious delay, because russia will certainly not sit idly by and wait for our next counteroffensive, for example, next year they will strengthen the defense even more, they will catch up even more, they will mobilize us partially or not partially already is there enough sanctions for now, but they are not to the extent that we would like. and this, again

, makes it possible for this regime to exist for a long enough time. well, there is such a point of view that putin is waiting. he has such reference points. he is waiting for the elections of the united states in the states - it is somewhere in november. that is, 10 in november of next year and there is a possible change of administration and already ready forces. so, turn over this page. should we somehow try to come to an agreement with the united states , that is, until this moment, the cinema has all the opportunities to keep, so to speak, the situation in russia, as it is now during , again, you do not reject what if now

will begin, well, i mean in september, there will begin some kind of peaceful negotiations, inspired by china, slobid arabia, there will be whatever you like and supported by certain western parties, then it is also a suitable situation for him, because it is a matter of ideas about the fact that we all remain in the territories on which they stand and it begins there is a long process of soap negotiations that, in principle, gives putin the opportunity to breathe and solve his internal problems, i.e. presidential elections and disciplining his elite there. well, in principle, it is enough to fix certain problems serious that have arisen recently in the economy and with new forces, is it possible, possible, i am not saying that this will be 100% the case, but it is possible to start a new attack on ukraine after some time. by the way, zelensky was asked about

what does he think about territorial concessions in exchange for membership in the alliance, but the answer to this question was given not only by zelensky, but also by prime minister frederiksen, let's hear what the leaders of the states said. i can very clearly answer the question about the future of ukraine. to the ukrainians, and we have said this from the very beginning, it is up to ukraine to decide when exactly how this will apply to denmark as well . maria zakharova made comments to our members in moscow about the fact that

president zelenskyy was not quite adequate, answering like this, even though zelenskyi answered me too correctly and adequately, considering that the situation that is developing itself in belgorod -retention of the russian side against this background, everyone is waiting for a meeting between erdağan and putin, because there are a lot of issues related to, in particular, the russian-ukrainian war and the grain corridor, and this whole meeting is being delayed, being delayed since the first they talked about the fact that putin will fly turkey to erdoğan, now erdoğan is saying that he hopes to hmm meet putin face to face in september and yordagan is quoted by the turkish media in september against the meeting of the g20 in india and the un general assembly in the united states, if we find an opportunity for you in this busy environment, we will meet

and talk with mr. putin face to face. here are the places where erdogan and putin can talk face to face, except for the territory of russia, turkey, not so much because, well, in the big 20s, maybe putin will fly there, although i doubt it. what do you think about this isolation from the isolation of putin, which he got into in connection with the warrant of the international criminal court, it turns putin into someone no, he understands that he is a certain political party, and i will simply say that if it were some leader, like the former president of sudan, then the fate of this president was the main thing that can be decided, but because of this, the largest country in the world with nuclear weapons is the only thing that saves putin from being,

well, let's say he was convicted by an international court for such crimes that he committed in ukraine and not only in ukraine. and with regard to turkey. well, here it is. here, a very interesting game is taking place. first of all, all those conversations about putin's visit to turkey are from the turks and the turkish press, and moscow never did that. not i confirmed that there was always such a thing, so to speak. well, a meeting is possible, but the place is being discussed. it is clear that now the game is going to be played . that is, russia needs turkey very much from the point of view of earning money on all these schemes , including on grain with the agreement with turkey

, turkey would be so connected to this. but i think that here it is a matter of geopolitical issues of the schedules. maybe in moscow they decided that turkey is too rough for those who want to play that country. turkey in an effort to be a mediator between the west and russia, there are such players. well, not only turkey, let's say so , let's take the same saudi real that can play there on these remaining eh elevated eh such geopolitical interests of the turks , for example, yes, of course, if he is playing football like this, now this meeting does not look very good for ergog himself, because

he always seemed to be the initiator of all of these events from the agreements of the meeting that he looked like that he was imposing himself yes and now it turns out that this tactic of his, which worked for a year and a half, is now not working, again , everything can be changed, there was some strange possible secret meeting, maybe it was in hungary with a representative there was this head of tatarstan in qatar, hungary, and from russia. maybe there is something there. and maybe it was there that it became clear that russia will not agree to a new agreement, and turkey, so to speak, is now restructuring its strategy towards russia, in principle, ideally, ideally. yes, this the situation is good for us, because turkey will have nothing left to do, how to switch to a more openly anti-ukrainian position

and, well, let's say that we are more supportive of the general course of western countries regarding, well, regarding the isolation of russia, well, it seems that washington is also waiting for this, because literally today they published information in the wall street journal reported that companies from turkey purchased dozens of tanks that transport russian oil, that is, ordagan , bypassing european and world sanctions, began to transport oil and officials of the united states states of america referred to in jordan's wall street say that washington remains concerned that turkey is the center of violations of russian sanctions, among which the shadow fleet for oil of the russian federation entered turkish ports of russian cargo ships that are under sanctions and transport weapons, a cross-section of goods, in particular electronics, which moscow needs it for the production of weapons, eh, mr. oleksiiovych , can you explain the phenomenon of erdoğan

, whose country is a member of the north atlantic treaty organization on the one hand, and on the other hand, erdoğan, apparently one of the few leaders of the civilized world, uh, since turkey is a member of nato, i will still believe that the pivot in this situation is on our side, but this is the person who is in contact with putin, who meets with putin, who agrees on something with him, i.e. none of the european leaders behaves like that anymore. and even more so among the leaders of the nato countries. well, why does urban behave like that? well, he does not personally meet with putin, but the minister of foreign affairs of hungary goes to see him , and hungary, well, is definitely worth much less.

attention from the point of view of the potential there of economic, military and any other than the same turkey, well, it is , so to speak, each country has its own interests, some are ready from western countries, well, not some, but the majority is still ready in unison for the sake of certain common e common tasks, a common goal, common values, first of all, to make concessions, even with your own, to step on the throat of your own economy to a certain extent . yes , because the economies were very closely connected with russia. turkey is not russia, but turkey is not germany and not sweden. turkey is an electoral democracy with authoritarians,