[000:00:00;00] and theoretically and practically it should protect our interests, simply today this abstract term national state is filled unfortunately because of the blood of the losses, a very serious rethinking is filled with real content for the first time, the state, the army, the church, language, and culture acquire a real national meaning in this question, after all i want to return again to the tool of extinction, that is , the experience of this logical research to the extent that they reflect reality, because it seems that, well, again, it seems to me that people they respond emotionally, they a-a v- make certain answers, make decisions under the influence of circumstances, and here is what will continue in 25 years, in 50 years. the impression is that you believe that the ukrainian nation

is being born right now - do you agree with this or not the nation has already been born, and lavina oleg, it is now strengthening, strengthening , and er, i will repeat it again, it is gaining itself, the process of self-hypnosis is taking place in your question, there are two components, and i will briefly try to separate them, as far as the objectivity of sociological research is concerned, and these studies that you and i we rely on the results published by the rumzkov center, the results are even more impressive, the sociological research of the company, the rating, she says, they are open to me, and according to these studies , 94% of ukrainians are proud to be ukrainians and identify themselves as ukrainians, 94% identify themselves as citizens of ukraine another study of the degree company is an excellent study, the world study of values, which also emphasizes this

tradition, common enemies unite the nation very strongly, unfortunately, common enemies are that it is the impulse that causes the formation of identity and the second component of your question. what will happen in 25 years, i don’t know, uh, and you don’t know. nobody knows. sociologists don’t know, but we can talk about trends. we are not interested in specific data at this moment , but specifically what is maturing. as a trend, the trend suggests that ukrainians as a nation are becoming more courageous, aware of themselves, filling the concept of ukrainian with concrete content and experiencing positive results .

i don't know about the future, but the study, too, i don't know if you noticed this, too, the research of the center tells us that stability as a positive quality is growing . there is some kind of support that people can now rely on, and it is definitely somewhere, somewhere inside, somewhere inside our hearts, ms. natalya. thank you very much, and i completely agree with that, but we have to, i want to talk more, but we have to move on, natalya kryvda doctor of philosophy, professor of the department of ukrainian philosophy and culture of the taras shevchenko national university of kyiv, was with us on the air that the crows

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i will remind the union of brazil, russia, india, china and the republic of south africa that they do not consider this union as a geopolitical rival, said the assistant to the president of the united states for national security jx-saliva at an online briefing today. which we will say so hopes what hopes for this very you and in general for this cooperation between these countries are placed by its participants we will namely china we will deal with the report hunger this is the head of the ukrainian association of chinese studies ms. from good evening glory to ukraine glory to the heroes good evening i want to push back from this statement of the united states and taking into account that blumberg writes that china can use this summit just to intensify confrontations with the united states and, let's say, to strengthen its positions in certain areas of international politics at

to this the usa says we do not consider as eh rivals, but in your opinion, eh, what will china still pursue and should the united states really not worry about the fact that the fact that china is very interested in the development of this format and sigenkin was personally met at the airport by the president of par- mr. ramaphosa and i emphasize that the year with the economic platform and the fact that the chinese economy is currently forecasting such a protracted recession and is such an impetus for china to become more active in this format he expansion of this format, he is interested in leadership among the brics countries , and

he is also interested in promoting his initiatives, and he is excited by his initiative . brics cooperation with africa and all five representatives of today's participants . someone was online and we know who they are . everyone talked about cooperation with africa, and there was a lot in that format today the expectation was said and the letter about the ctrp language was read out by the minister of trade of the prc russian he was not present today on the stage he is in pairs but did not personally participate in this forum ivan vantao spoke for him and he focused on economic issues on the issues of global initiatives, therefore, one really gets the impression that china

is interested in expanding this format, but it is interested in expanding the format only purely from an economic point of view, are there still prospects that this format will be politicized and perform some other political functions in the future, well, it is obvious that within the framework of such american-chinese escalation , everything that is happening in the world is pushing china to form, let's say, such a partnership, today the minister of trade also emphasized that this partnership is not an alliance in the making relations with other countries in other formats, but he spoke about the global security initiative, it is also obvious that some political issues will be discussed tomorrow and the day after tomorrow, but still

, if you listen carefully to the speech of all five of the participants, the majority of this speech was devoted to economic, investment, and financial issues. congratulations, to what extent do you think the influence of brics will increase in the world after its expansion, and at the expense of which countries can expand the economy, in particular, china is interested in expanding about this. there was even a statement by the chinese foreign ministry that they really want it to become wider in the year, not only these five countries, there is one such nuance in the format, there is competition, we know that india is against the expansion of this format and india - this is the country that feels great with all sides of the world. yes, and the measures with the east are great for trade with russia, at the same time it signs defense contracts with the usa. that is, it is against the expansion of this format, and we will see what will end with what resolutions

this three-day e-forum will end with. those who want to join are indonesia, saudi arabia, iran, bangladesh, and a number of other countries. i know that it was announced that there were 1,500 participants at the forum. that is, it is a fairly successful forum. what will be the format of the discussion tomorrow? i don't know, but i am mr. vasya, there will also be live broadcasts, we will follow, according to your opinion, the positions of china and russia to what extent they will be in harmony within the framework of brics and within the framework of the further development of cooperation between brics member countries. here i want to draw attention to the fact that only putin in his er virtual presence mentioned the issue of ukraine, he was the only one who touched on this issue and even then in the context of the grain agreement , he justified himself

. needed most of all, these are his words, but he said that he is ready to return . i'm sorry, i'm interrupting you just to clarify , according to un data, exactly 25% of grain from ukraine went to china. yes, we also discussed that china received the most under this agreement russia behaves like monopolists, and in his speech, putin also mentioned that his grain will be enough to feed the world. i think they will return to this grain agreement, we know that erdoğan is going to go to putin precisely because of this. questions and discounts of others, so we will also follow our development bank, this is such a financial institution, a financial instrument of the brics format, and they said about

the possibility of dollarization in this format , the details of how it will be are not disclosed yet, but literally a month ago, this new development bank suspended all new investment projects in russia are due to sanctions, that is, not everything is like that, i want russia. although it is the country that founded this format, let's just say that it will pull the blanket over itself . yes, who will play the role of the first violin because it seems to me that the interests of china and the interests of russia and now go a little on their own paths, and maybe they don't always cross these roads , really china has become interested only in its own roads in its initiatives in its national interests

china is always china, china is only china, and at the moment what they are commenting on, let's say experts, they say that a cold war has started against a population of one and four billion for such humiliation, so china is forced to move in the direction of, let's say , the global rooster to assert its leadership, how will china develop its activities in the format of bricks? it seems to me that it will be such neat and careful steps because there is india, that is, competition within this format. we are talking about the brics format in which it is now and about the prospects for its expansion , what is the probability that in the future brics

will compete with j7 according to the fenition times, and he may be interested in making it competitive joining the big seven is currently being compared in two formats, bricks and gsaven, the share of the global gdp of brics is less than gsaven, that is, brics loses here, but in terms of world population, on the contrary, brics wins, because it is more than 40% of the world's population according to which other the criteria will be to compare these two formats, it will be necessary to watch, that is, it is really important to understand that this format slowed down a little and now china is trying to revive it, let's say , there is such a chance to revive it at the expense of african countries , what will we see then in the next two days

what and how exactly they will try to do it, we will probably return to this topic more than once, ms. vito. thank you for this conversation from the head of the ukrainian association of chinese studies about the brics summit in the context of china in particular. we just talked about brics itself - this is a meeting this is from the union of countries, china and brazil, india, the south african republic, and russia is also included in that, and you and i continue to talk about the relations between israel and ukraine, and in what context, the ambassador of ukraine to israel yevhen korniychuk reported the other day that ukraine is considering such an opportunity to stop the visa-free regime with israel due to the large number of refusals to enter and the deportation of ukrainians, the ambassador and the ambassador of israel to ukraine , michael brodsky , wrote in a telegram after that that only those who came to work illegally are refused. this is 5%, 47,000 of those who

arrived in 2023 this is how his answer was. well, the answer of the ambassador of ukraine was also not long in coming, he said that it was a manipulation of numbers because among these forty thousand there was a significant part of those who have the right to repatriation and it is clear that they do not need it, they could not to deny entry a priori, they write the mirror of the week, this is a brief introduction to the topic that threatens the relations between israel and ukraine, and we speak for it with an israeli political scientist from ayton. i welcome you to the broadcast of the marathon. good evening. with israel, ukrainian or ukrainian-israeli relations. is everything like that on the surface and consists only of this at this moment of entry, exit , deportation bans and so on, or should we

look deeper into the problems with entry into israel exists not only with ukrainian citizens, i also with russian or wild some countries and georgia and so on , and mostly the countries of the former soviet union are exclusively paternal affairs, so you see in it some direction against ukraine, i would not do it, but if at the same time it was not it is very clear why. that is, it is not very clear in quotation marks. why is the israeli government behaving in this way? now i will explain to you why it behaves this way . it has been behaving this way for several years. at the moment when politicians who have rather nationalist views came to power because, in their opinion, this country

is confusing the jews with jews and israelis , and therefore they somehow take care that for the entire population of israel, the majority of them were people, and because of this, every person who passes the control , and mostly women, they pay a lot of attention to them again in quotation marks and thus refuse to do so before the border . in rostov-on-don in fact, israel does not want women to come, get married, give birth to children, i am very simple and clear, now

when you use the word israel, you need to understand one thing that this is not israel in general , it is people in specific governments that are because of the political situation in these places who decide who crosses the border, another population, 88% of the population of israel supports not only ukrainians, but busko, who comes to our country, business, and so on. and the majority of the other government is not in those key positions, there are no problems with this either, but the political system of israel is such as it is today that due to the need for coalition agreements today and on nipelyau so that they vote for his ability to avoid the trial, he gives them such freedom of action and that is why you see the deterioration no no

only in the bilateral relations of ukraine and israel, as well as with other countries, but i will still ask, what about this politician who cares so much about maybe i don’t even want to call it such words because it already happened, you know, in the 30s and 40s past years century, the purity of the people. come on, i just want to bypass these terrible concepts as much as possible, which i really hope have nothing to do with modernity. why do they care so much about this ? they belong to the er to the er movement of nationalist-religious zionism, and this is how we talk about that israel is really for the jews, i repeat to you once again, not for them , only for europe , for the jews okay, because there are jews who do not attach any importance to religion, and almost half of them

, what to do, they lost the elections and we lost the elections and that's why we have what we have ok, one way or another, yes, so, otherwise, these people have such an ideology . i also avoid. thus, we talk about it on the air. what is this concern for some kind of cleanliness or so on, but one way or another, uh, we are what what what what that what is going on, what actions are we seeing, and we are trying to find words, but you can’t find other words. okay, if we return to this situation, well, in particular , from the ukrainian side, and how will this affect ukraine-israel relations in the future, well , at least in the near future , something similar in 2018, it was with

indonesia when indonesia stopped also it was forbidden to leave the country because of religion . who does not like what the tsar is doing in sectorization, and that is why there is such a possibility , there is an opinion, that is, there is a practice, to what extent the ukrainian government will be directed to the whole, i am sure that this is the only way out. i have a little conscience. i think that, after all, the situation it will remain the same as it was, besides, you need to understand that soon, er, and hm , there will be religious holidays in uman

, yes, yes, yes. okay, the plague is quite a lot, many hasidim , 30-40 thousand, as it happens, eh, every year, and so this is such a good, let's say so very good, opportunity to influence israel's decision, but still. once again, i will remind you that everyone who is in the political government today and even in the political coalition that passes laws is the most nationalist government that has existed in the entire history of this country. thank you you are cutting an israeli political scientist for this explanation, we were talking about the perspective of ukraine-israeli relations and why there are actually these refusals of the deportation of ukrainian ukrainians from israel because of what exactly.

the option of the ambassador of ukraine in israel, what is the option, what can stop the visa-free regime, it is treason. so, we will continue to talk with you about the situation in the south of ukraine, about the situation in the south of ukraine in the context of the front , in particular, we will include natalya in our conversation humenyuk, the head of the joint coordination percentage of the defense forces of the south, ms. natalya good evening glory to ukraine glory to the heroes, congratulations ms. natalya ah you said today on the air of the espresso channel that for the first time russia brought a missile-carrying cyclone on duty in the black sea tell me if you want please where is this missile carrier now and what are the threats from it in general excellent threat assessment i apologize very bad hearing now we will try er again er contact in order to check all these technical

points you and i could hear about the situation in the south of ukraine, while we are setting up the connection, we will look at this story about our ukrainian hero, on the account of military pilot dmytro shkarevskyi, 70 combat sorties, the defender performed combat missions in the sky since the beginning of the full-scale invasion in february of this year, the man's plane was damaged, dmytro managed to eject, but wounded received his story, he told our correspondents this already after i returned home after a month in the hospital and decided to get a tattoo in honor of the fact that i survived and depicted his plane on which he flew the words i survived and the date of ejection 10.02.23 in detail, although

more than six months have passed since the day of ejection over the daughter , a military man recalls that on the third night there was a signal of an enemy attack from the south, he says that as usual, the plane took to the sky that night the captain was damaged, your plane began to collapse in the field, i was around. i already understood that there was no way i would return , having made sure that when i ejected in smili, it would not fall into any place, and the settlement after that was ejected fracture of a vertebra, through shrapnel wounds and months of rehabilitation. this was the 70th combat flight of 26-year-old captain dmytro shkarevsky, known to his comrades by the call sign hector , he did not believe that the russian aggressor would invade ukraine en masse until the end, but he says that on february 25, 2022 , he was already performing combat missions in to the ukrainian sky or yes, when you really shoot down that particular caliber or some kind of fence , it is possible that there is some kind of joy because you

understand that this target was flying, like, not into some infrastructure. and as it shows practice and in honor of living in a house or in kindergarten responsibility for your actions and that you understand that you have to do it and there is no other way dmytro sh karevsky significantly hastened the approach of victory and would save thousands of ukrainians when they will finally be in ukraine i am 16 i hope for myself already soon, we will make you understand that the sky is no longer theirs , the day when finally this street is a victory, er, we are going to say so with all our pilots, and there we will fly well with our frankivsk so that people will see and understand that here

here is our victory and our boys are flying freely in the sky inna sandets kamonyuk nazar vin tonyuk social news ivano-frankivsk so i 'm joining in our conversation ms. natali humenyuk head of the united coordination procenter of the defense forces of the south ms. natalya well, nothing will stop us from talking after all no technical points, no occupiers, uh, returning to the question about the cyclone, about this missile carrier, which is russia ’s first in the muzzle now and what are its tasks and what does russia want from it let’s say that in the first half of the summer they reported that they finished the work with it, that is, it is ready, but they forgot about a very important point and the conduct of sea trials, about the conduct of combat trials, er, now, in the conditions in which they are, they are forced to put into operation a ship that has not been tested in terms of combat in terms of general characteristics, this

a small missile ship of such a type as in russia, in principle, there are e-e in general if you compare the karakurt type and the buyan type that they currently have, it is now distinguished from e-e those that are the presence of their own system of the anti-aircraft missile complex, i.e. anti-aircraft protection, but everything has not yet passed. the test, i will remind you, nevertheless , it can be equipped with some calibers like a classic small missile ship . it can carry surface missile launchers according to the ground . by the way, it is also complicated by the fact that these piecemeal installations are also tests of combat conditions in real time have not come and uh, it can threaten both the crew itself if they are not properly operated and are not ready for use, and complicate

the work of our anti-aircraft defense for that very reason we drew attention to his presence in