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[000:00:00;00] i don't even have enough words to describe what was in the basement, this bed we threw them out of the kindergarten into the street so we left the positions to make beds so that we could crucify the children here, four at the top, well , four at the bottom and four at the top were sleeping children there was such a big bed two-story, how were we there when it was already the last days and the beds were put up, i slept on kravets, they put a two-story one from below, the real me was with us in the basement , there were 74 children, 1.5 months and more, a four-month-old baby , a six-month-old baby , six months old, the babies were a year old, these babies
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they suffocated, cried and it was difficult for them to prepare food because we did not often let them out into the yard, so the food was cooked on bonfires, they were not even allowed to light these pots , how did we feed them, what did they feed them, what did the child give them, they treated us there with cookies like that they gave the child, the child ate what she had eaten before, we took care of her there, we gave her a shake on her, and she started eating everything , we had to prepare mixtures, and for this we needed warm water, and here was such
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a situation, once we were not released generally in the yard and the child had to dilute the water with cold, uh, cold water, the mixture and the children started diarrhea, these children are one and a half months old, this is our toilet, they went to the buckets. and here , near the toilet, the family also had a small child , who was a repeat of the month. this child was also in the very corner in such a place, er, at the very end of the hall, and she was suffocating there, and her mother carried her upstairs to the steps so that the child near the door could get a little air , there were no other options, it was difficult to breathe, but somehow , you know, we had a hole, it becomes a hole was there it is covered with rags, it is also covered with foam plastic, in the end, when the foam plastic hits the metal, and that is, at least a little
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there, because of these rags, through that ground, a little bit of air got more or less. i see how people felt very bad, they could not breathe очень плановый was carried, those who were dying could be carried out by night, or so on bandages, at umy points, the one who died in a fire pit nearby in denmark and there they lay at night every day. in our country, people died for 5 days in a row, it
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was better if a person died during the day, they could take the 14-year-olds to the fire pit, there was not enough air and they fell there, hit their heads, and there 14 died. she sat next to the kolomyika if a person died at night. she stayed because after we were closed for the night, we had no right to go out , rattle, make noise, and even more so endure corpses, when the corpses had already gathered, four men had already arrived, then they must have already arrived, some landlords, because they did not protect us, and well, if they were not with us, they would come for water, then something else, i am already saying. what should
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be done, well, where? i will go come to the chief and i will tell you that when there were rumors that someone was dying there , well, we only knew them, well , we didn't communicate very well before the war, but i know them very well. who were mostly dying in this room, people lived, people did not survive, there was no word for life, they moaned, rocked, screamed, bitch, you can say
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how they died, they went crazy, when my mother began to suffocate and i, she even felt sick and she i even thought that she had gone to the movie and it was very bad. i was short of air. she was breaking down the door and singing. they opened the door . she went out when she went home. she was alone. at night, she thought she was in a movie. so she ran all over the basement and screamed in the director is alone here. i don't want to act in this movie , and she was already screaming, and the soldiers calmed her down, and then they sent her home. well, there were moments like that , just moments. well, it's funny, it's just funny , but when you understand what it is
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then everything was not very scary, tenderly i say that it was both scary and funny what is your name egor egor this is where the children slept and this if conversation was like this they did pictures they drew there were pencils there were walls there were notebooks
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there were also some fairy tales children read the toys were brought from the kindergarten. in the evening, we had already closed the house, the buryats came, whether it is this sin, god only knows who they are by nationality , they came and put automatic guns to our temples to our stomachs and clicked the shutter, and god knows whether it will work or not for the most part
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they came to us drunk, when they came in and searched, it was not clear what the situation was, then we had a two-story bed next to us, which the boys made from one of the small ties they took from the kindergarten , so there were the first and second floors in the crib, and we hid the girls on to the first one, he is also everyone, they were all sitting well, we were already ready, if necessary, we will leave. well, we were thinking that no one would give children. and well, no one panicked , but some drunk russian came down and said, and pointed at his machine gun and said that shoot he told one boy that he should throw grenades under his bed, although they will throw grenades at their children, how did you protect them? what did you do to the heart, but i don't let them out with
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us ? opinion, but i think that i am supported by all the other mothers who were with us. she couldn't go anywhere, she had no choice so that she could someday. they would have gone into the basement well why did they go in, search, look, look for girls, and the girls they would take the minors, they would take them away because they would all be digging, they just came out , she called out. they knew her name, they called out, took her away , i don't know what happened, but they
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didn't go into the basement anymore they didn't take anyone else away. they didn't have to act. our grandchildren, only you, were there for one month . they also kept a calendar. this is when they settled. the third one was shot, well, this one was shot here, the projectiles tore it up with a projectile, this one was shot, they were shot only but we did not find his documents, they found, but they could have dug up where he is not innocent, those legs were lying so that he
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was missing us, this was shot, this was given to me and these are the people who died here here on the 9th, 10th, 11th, 13th, 17th, people were dying, they couldn’t stand it here, children also made drawings and watched the rocket red , glowing, burning, how do they think a meteorite can fall with them, there are such images standing who didn't draw on the walls? my friend solomiya didn't paint with her friend, but you helped. yes, we drew a little there, but i didn't draw any more there. i drew one apple, so
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they were all together. it was a moment of despair . i would feel this when i sat and said, "what's wrong with us ?" they just won't let us out here they will shoot us they will kill us we will be alive in the shield they will throw a bomb at us this was the same terrible moment when i said goodbye and every time we went to sleep well and every time i said goodbye to my uncle my uncle said that at school there are three plates and even if he gets into the school, well, everything will be fine. i reassured myself with this. when i arrived at school, i was with my friend at the other end of the basement
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. even if we died, we made peace together , it also calmed me down a little bit, well, it was scary when they were waiting for me and thought that now they are leaving grenades for us, that's something, we were so worried and there were strong, terrible explosions here, it was scary, not so scary, it was going down in the basement, how scary it was, how interesting they were, they brought this room to us. they brought a woman to us. they were traveling with their husband . they wanted to go from chernihiv to kyiv. a little baby and they were found in the state farm, they brought her here , she joins the wounded and injured children here
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and there, she was there, they also caught people whom they made outsiders, they found somewhere when in the forest or in the village, they brought the hut here then they took it away from here, they held it there for a while, they took the fence there, they took them out, they shot them here, it was such a moment, they closed us down, they said that there will be a very heavy bombardment, they will live, everyone will hide in the basement, and we all ran and sat and sat we sit for two or three hours then a man comes alone and says calm down don't panic, everything is fine, but there is no one, i think so, no one is
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there, i will read it again, nothing, no one, no technology, all of this is gone. i just turned here, marina and we, well, the first thing we did was not believe it. i think well, if they are not here so they once went to the village, i guess, and well, we all worked out this happiness so much, it’s just as if the victory had already happened, well, this is such a victory for us, immediately everyone else shouts , the guy whistles, and slowly people start going out into the street, it would be terrible shuls to roll their phones back home and immediately calls there, well, so that they know that he is alive, they know how we were, i want to say to people who know that there is a war but have not experienced it, please take it seriously, because this is a war not only on
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tv, somewhere far away, it is a war in our country to ukraine, if you hear danger, get together. save the children. save yourself. it's very scary. it's very painful when you see how your children are suffering. your relatives are suffering and you can't do anything. take care of yourself and your children and your family. it's really good. this is the first time i write in a month. i brushed my teeth and you look at how the urals are burning in russia. i was sitting anyway. i didn't care about anti-aircraft fire. i don't know how it would have happened if it hadn't happened, but emotions ran high
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. it was very nice to watch . congratulations on the public, we are in the old one. in the city of lutsk directly on the territory of the surrounding castle, and this place for the meeting was chosen by the interlocutor, this is a volyn historian , who is now with a weapon in his hands in the ranks of the 6th volyn border detachment, defending ukraine serhiy goldlevsky, he came from the front for a short time to lutsk and agreed to meet mr. serhiy rado here to welcome you home. glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes. you said that
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the old town is your favorite place in lutsk . and how will it be here in military uniform ? every stone in that old city is historically dear, and for me it is not just . well, the old city is sacred, our strength. this is our history. four temples intersected, jewish, protestant, catholic, orthodox, with this spirituality and great history
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, we have to defend our right to exist today. specialized, if you can call it that, in the fact that they were warriors, it is genetics in this case that worked. that is, we protect, protect, and i am proud of the fact that i am actually doing this work. it is not a pity, but for many ukrainians, the war began on february 24, 2022. and for you as well as for the rest of the ukrainians, it started 9 years ago. do you remember the moment when you first took up arms to really defend ukraine, our identity, our land? automatic machine but yes, well, then there was the orange revolution, they treat it differently , that is, but if you take it from the historical perspective, from the historical aspect, it was a certain step, our progress towards the european community, and so on, the revolution of dignity itself, and i am a participant in all those three movements or three revolutions, no matter who called it, what happened
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, i was mobilized in the 15th year, it was , if i could say it logically, because there was a certain aggression, the seizure of our territory , under the push of certain internal that means there are separatist movements and it was necessary to protect and defend our land, i was in the maryanka region, but the same donetsk region has already fallen so fate that i am in the avdiivka region , that is, these two cities are close, but it is also donetsk northern donbass region so and well then and to this day it was the same enemy , only different activity, different phase of these hostilities, what would it be, well, this phase began on february 22, and in your opinion, it
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was inevitable. i think there is none here there were no coincidences, my belief as a historian is that if it were so everything was going as it was going before we would have been members of the european union in 10 years, well, we have a lot of troubles in our society, well one of them is corruption, but the more people left to the west there, for example, to earn some money. some of them returned because they could earn a certain percentage there , but people left to earn capital there and open a business here. they were changing society, we were undergoing a transformation of society, we were actually returning to the land of european nations, and of course putin is, i see that he is losing such a motherland as ukraine, it was intended , deliberate plans, it was worked out, the only thing was a miscalculation what happened is what
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his best man said that everything will be fine there. everything is fine. well, you will enter in the morning. you will enter before the evening . that means there will already be an announcement in the evening . there will be a disco and gazmanov is also there. i mean, but he worked for the ukrainian side somewhere, they really thought that it would be very fast, moreover, the western countries did not give us such a guarantee that this is how the ukrainian nation would resist, but it had to be something similar to afghanistan , a guerrilla struggle, some new form of upa resistance which would have to take place here and on those grounds and in this way it would undermine the mouth of russia there, that is, no one gave ukraine a guarantee that it would be such a heroic escort, that is precisely at critical moments
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the phenomenon of the ukrainian nation manifests itself from exploits that will later be recorded in the tablet of our military history in this e-e. sorry for such a word. the boys, who were 19-20 years old and served in military service , met with the famous russian special forces at the gostomel airfield and gave a heroic fight to the second military command in the first days of full-scale bargaining well, they were breaking. i came to lutsk somewhere else. well, i can’t . all of them were estimated to be one and a half thousand people and the soldier was leaving. a lot of people, but everyone went, everyone went and everyone got up, this is a phenomenon, the second phenomenon of the ukrainian nation. this is absolute solidarity , a volunteer movement . and this is a phenomenon that also records
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, i don’t know if there was anything like it in the world. this is related to ukraine, and you wrote about the formation of the nation. the post was on march 1, 2022 on your facebook page. it was a fragment of your trench notebook . where do you write down your thoughts at the front? and people will be able to read more in print what you wrote there about the fact that it's time for us to get up and break out of these cain obi . that is the copy, in fact, our nation is being formed, we are born in great torments, it is true that a child who is born does not feel those flies, there are none, but the mother feels her like this. that is, all births of children pass with certain pains and with certain
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with difficulties once upon a time a ukrainian woman who was preparing for childbirth there. she always prepared with herself a certain knot like this. in other words, she was standing on the edge of life and death. there are many women there . why am i saying this because it was really a risk. but after this birth there was the greatness of birth and the joy of the birth of this child. and then those children. that means they went into the world in about the same difficult way . the birth of the ukrainian nation was born. our independence was proclaimed on august 24, 1991 , and a lot was written about what was given to us. independence without pain without blood, but this previous generation paid well, this is how everything was written, everything was interpreted, and in reality we had our competitions there in the 17-21st years and in the 40s, there we will say in the 50s. this is the ukrainian resistance movement and the sixties
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yes, that is, our losses were, but in the 91st year, we gave us independence . to be honest , not everyone fully understood what this is, we are not serious. such a certain indulgence, but with such a finger, well, just look there, and there they signed all those agreements in the bialowieza forest, yes. that is, we had and we had these hugs of cain, yes, that is, we were afraid , where we sat with one back on two stools , we led dances, there we went to the liberation day of the city of lutsk the liberation of volyn there and everyone went on october 14 to the day of the ukrainian insurgent army and they could not understand where was the liberation, where was the occupation and everyone so if they kept quiet, the moment came when it was necessary when it was necessary to determine the reality
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what is not or is it really a fraternal nation? is it a yakain hug? why was this nation not formed 9 years ago, when we really had people killed in the first battle by the russian kola, the first wounded in the occupied territories, we already had the ilovai boiler, we had debaltsevo then why this not so, he gave the example of premature birth - it is also not very good for a woman to bear it. well, he is ready. we had many chances in our history in 17-18 . on the level and with finland and they were ripe to the point that they declared their independence lithuania latvia estonia for a short period but it was after the 20s they gained independence and when they were already losing it in the 40s when the latest occupation took place but it had already grown up a new generation which there were free people and which already gave new fighters on
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the territory of ukraine ukraine was recognized as such and was recognized in all those treaties, but ukrainian society could not agree among themselves we had an idea that did not work, that is, zunr united with until now, we have the day of renunciation, but this day of renunciation was already on the eve of the fact that we lost our own, we made mistakes after mistakes , man learns like this and uh, we actually watched a lot of things, our 30 years of our independence were not spent in vain, but the fact that those thousands under the military commissariats, it is the fact that people gathered in kyiv and filled the flags with a combustible mixture there, who were supposed to meet there in lutsk, in which of all the cities, and it was, well, a continuous phenomenon - this is our new generation, this is what
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they say and we lost our youth there. nothing did not lose on the maidan, different people of different ages died, but the vast majority of the participants of the maidan are young people of 13-14 years old, and students started it, to this day, there are different people fighting, of different ages and such as eggs, but the vast majority are young people who fight, die, are maimed but then they stand their ground, there is such a term as integral nationalism, well, they are afraid of it, they say that it is something like that, if it is simple, and i have it. well, the children went to kindergarten and in one of the kindergartens. where my younger son went, i came and when are those foxes, dumplings, cats, all in layers, embroidered clothes, all of them, you have

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