[000:00:00;00] lost the youth. we didn't lose anything. different people of different ages died on the maidan, but the vast majority of the participants of the maidan were young people from the 13th or 14th year, and the students started it. to this day, there are different people fighting, of different ages and such as eggs, but the overwhelming majority is young people who fight are killed and maimed but they continue to stand by their ideas, there is such a term as integral nationalism, well, they are afraid of it, they say that it is something like that, if it’s simple, i also have children. well , the children went to kindergarten and one of the kindergartens. where is my younger son? i used to come and go when those little foxes, kolobkas, cats, all in layers, embroidered clothes, all this is integral nationalism for you. these children are young people, they are brought up in the fact that they are free people

, a free nation, and even when there is no military threat, this will remain with them, this will remain with us there are a lot of challenges facing society today. well, for example, ukrainian corruption, only war can change its corruption. certain things are happening now that happen by themselves. it's not a matter of someone setting them, but the birth of the ukrainian army has a new meaning and new values ​​in the army, i will not engage in criticism because i am a military man and i. well, let it remain mine, but these are the new field commanders who are passing through there. this is a new generation, new relationships, new experience, and ukrainians used to be looked at as a nation in europe. sorry for that. er, well, they are second-rate, but the nation that came, well, cheap jobs, not labor force. now they look at us as a nation of warriors, we become a model about you as

a military man, what more do i want to talk about? on the day of the full-scale invasion, you went to lutsk to the military commissariat because you already had combat experience, you were ready for this. and how did you get to the border guards? the first time i went to serve in the 15th year, now he says that they are being taken there and taken to the border guard. i said that i am fine. i am a ukrainian nationalist. no matter what environment i find myself in, the most important thing for me is that i perform a certain function , which function do you perform now? i am a combat officer , i went on duty for sure. my conviction is firm. i have to live with the personnel like that, that is, if they go on combat er combat missions to be with them , then you have both a moral and mental right to impose something on them because you understand telling there, for example, about ukrainian patriotism or something else

or you are somewhere further away from these from this as they whistle poles alternate there mines because of that well, this may not be correct let's say so, the fighters themselves recognize you, so they have such a term as their own not their own intelligent beztulka this is deciphered but this is to earn these titles for them it is real something cost well, of course, it is already like this, i once dreamed of it, i once dreamed of how there were people in our country like this, well, in my period, there were many young people of my time there who dreamed of military schools, but i have a little problem with my eyesight, not all military schools of that time were available to me , that is for example, to become a paratrooper no, but you can, you have some kind of engineering well, but i wanted to be a paratrooper, it didn't work out that way and even i did a scam once, i stole a table with letters at one of the commissions and learned it by heart, there are four lines no i saw the lower one, but i knew that the fifth task was to get there, well, i didn't get into the military school then, but i served in the special forces

for a period of time in the soviet union, who are fighting next to you, so many of them are now. these ukrainian fighters, the ukrainian army is a section of ukrainian society, they there are very different people with education, without education, with high iq and low iq, these are people of different professions , these are computer programmers, these are businessmen who had a very cool business, a successful business, these are people of different social classes, what unites them... patriotiz it may sound so good, but they are all convinced of the rightness of what they are doing, the video is that you published it on your facebook page , the trench is filled with water and you drain the water from that trench, then there was another video when you showed how flowers bloom among the ruins

just a destroyed town, in that completely destroyed everything is a living beauty that reminds us of home, of relatives, what are the everyday lives of these ukrainian soldiers, different well, there is no tragedy there, there are jokes there is a lot of this famous soldier's humor, which is understandable only the soldiers there have a certain form and food and all this is a stay, well, everyone sees what he sees, that is, for me , this is when i am there, these flowers. you understand, it was such a contrast of black and white, that is, a complete ruin there, not where we were there was not a single whole building there, it is even forbidden to go a couple of meters to the side because there are no exploded mines, but what struck me were those tulips, bright tulips, and there and

these daffodils of virtue, so they broke through all these thickets because there already well there already for several years in this position there since the 14th year. we keep it broke through all this and the beauty of spring cannot be stopped, it is there, it wins even in the war, well, i haven’t shown it there yet, but there are a lot of cats and dogs, the military is somewhere behind the lack of this domestic the comfort, the warmth of this love, it is transferred to some extent to the animals that are there and people somewhere there emit this warmth, that is, they save those puppies, er, there are kittens, er, such terrible times of death and war, they really are such people, you are such ours those ukrainians understand that is, well, i see that positions are taken on separate positions, they took positions there, they held positions, he had nothing to cling to, he bought a plot of land, planted onions, you understand, well, it’s just

that of course, he didn’t have any problems with onions there, well, but, he planted because because because he it's nice to take care of that, stand flowers, contemplate, that's all, i really wanted to ask you, did you ever go to the war zone, when did you go there, when did you go there , the war zone, and the picture you saw there , how different it was from that picture that you remembered from the time of participation in the anti-terrorist operation. i felt the difference in this in the local population , that is, the first time when i was there in the 15th year . there, for example, you get to a small town or something, and you want to find out or buy something on the 15th, and when you applied in ukrainian, it was like, well, well,

they forced you so much that you should switch to russian for general concept because it's not clear, even now, when we spoke to them in ukraine, they tried to switch to the ukrainian language , that's a 90° difference, so the difference even then was very strong propaganda, and to this day, it's the new main combat operations are passing there in the south in the east of ukraine, and here are the same hungry people who were waiting there for freedom to come later, they saw liberation, they saw their essence, yes , their, this, the destructive power of the horde that is coming, and they could already compare and see it, and from time to time it works for us we would probably still be 200 years old

they explained to the population of this region what the ukrainian insurgent army is, or the unr army there, or the petlyurivites or the holodoyarivites, that is, what is it or the sich riflemen, that we had the right that we somehow wanted our independence there and they would try not to understand us there that moment what is happening now we will build our ukrainian state there we have our own region we see our own and we can now produce our own history for ourselves we will no longer apologize to anyone or explain this full-scale offensive we they stopped the ukrainian army stopped it then they started to retake their own territories at what stage is this war now and what do you think the ukrainians can expect i would like to be very wrong i would like to be very wrong i am not such a great strategist i am a historian who studied military history and the fact that i succeeded in a very narrow space

because i was not on the entire front either. so i see only a separate place. i would like to say that this war will unfortunately continue. well, it will continue. i think up to 1.5-2 years. why? what in fact, there are many more of them and they are chasing new new new new forces , so putin and his clique are driven into a dead end in the global world. he is afraid of the collapse of russia because he is afraid of all cadres and their ilk who may have access to nuclear weapons, well, nuclear points and what they will have it on their minds and how to press the button or not to press the button, this is also difficult, it is difficult to understand all this, but you know, the negative side of this

issue, but well, i wouldn't call it positive , we have no other way out we have no other exit, i.e. if, for example, tomorrow by some miracle some kind of truce happened there, remember, even how long it did not last a year 2 5 this is war again , well, mobilization again, and so on and so on , that is, russia will never agree to the fact that we are returning to bosom of european states and it will never voluntarily let go, we can only one way - this is our victory and our de-occupation, as of today, i want to state the fact that never in the history of ukraine have we had bigger and more reliable allies than we have

today, in fact, all of western europe, why do i say in fact, i mean hungary there, yes, no , in fact, well, there is serbia, which is not in the european union, there and so on , but in fact western europe, the civilized world, plus the united states of america, plus canada , about plus others, that the people of such stable and developed democracies are a hundred allies of ukraine. this is our help. there are many troubles on the fronts. yes, but there is a general trend. we have something to fight for . we have something to fight for. we know what we are fighting for if we don't fight there it will come here and this is a tragedy it will never stop so our question is only liberation we have a huge motivation we have certain means of war yes and we are thoroughly mastering the methods of the latest

war so that is to say it cannot be said that we are already there so much we we learn on the go unfortunately and we pay with sweat and blood for these things they cried with their lives yes we we this this this i am the mission on the shield but these are my words are terrible i understand them that you can never replace er, well, comfort there, for example, the mother who lost a son, a woman, a wife, who lost a husband, tell the children something for their father, that is all, but these deaths are real. when they meet our soldiers on the shield, they kneel, these are deaths that gave independence and life to those people who live here, they did not give birth

of a new nation, such is the nature of humanity and such is the nature of ukrainians, 30 years will pass, the graves will be lined with moss, the names will be slightly erased, as we, for example , remember the soldiers of the ukrainian insurgent army or the sich riflemen, new ones will grow the generation of even those who were not born today, but they will give birth to the following children , but we must remember that here we won our independence, and those are their boys and girls and women and men who are making peace today, this is the future of ukraine. we talk a lot about war, but let's do more we will not set any time frames for the victory, because we cannot predict them, i do not know all the possible circumstances, but what should this victory be, under what circumstances is it possible, what can we call a victory, the first is

the de-occupation of all ukrainian lands as of the border of the year 1991. yes, that is, there are no discussions here, as for crimea and donbas , i would consider it correct that there should be such a de-mintralized zone between ukraine and russia , that is, that they should not stand. for example, we left to the borders of the year 91 or the year 14, until there were certain periods of time so that there were no armed tank regiments on the borders somewhere in chernihiv , sumy, kharkiv, or there in the donetsk or luhansk regions, so that these tank regiments did not stand they we were waiting for some kind of signal because this is not normal, it should be 200-300 km where we can live peacefully, let's imagine that we liberated the land of the territory, how long will it take to win back the minds and hearts of those people who were under occupation for almost 10 years , this is a world experience in the making military-civilian administration in certain territories . i think that at the beginning there, for example

, for five years, maybe 10, there is no need to hold elections there, it is not necessary to simply appoint an administration that will fully perform its functions, it must pass a certain the period of re-adaptation and in the end they will understand these people, it just takes time, it takes a certain amount of time and it should work, time will work for us positively, we have such a trident embroidered on uniform who do you like such an original embroidered shirt, this is this shirt, it is called a combat shirt, it is officially called or her they are also called umbaksuva. yes, everyone has it, but the volunteers knew my craving for embroidery, i will tell you more. i have 19 embroidery. she is a thematic mother there, some others are there, and everyone knew that it was always serhii gudlavskyi, i went to work there in the city council, i worked there , so i always liked to come to vyshyvantsia, i

wear vyshyvantsia, and i also during the war, i have vyshyvankas from there, which are on war, yes, that is, they are of such a certain color. well, i have this one. they are very guarded from the front. did you return to lutsk? maybe you were impressed by something or not? share your first emotions here during this time. look at the surrounding castle. the first thing that happened was of course that i was impressed by what i saw. clean, such beautiful people walking, i haven't seen it for a long time, with such pleasant smells of civilization, yes. that is, it is the second , and it is difficult to understand for a person who has not been there. there is really a lot of things you appreciate that when you come, you hug your mother. you pay attention to it. you hear how your child smells. these are certain things. you value your family. your family values ​​you. my family now has me every three days. i give them some kind of excursion there

. they also want to listen to me. with pleasure and because of that i chose the old city because everything is opening up, i am happy about all of this . did you advise the ukrainians who are at the front and those who are in the rear at the moment. at this stage, he wanted them to have more faith that we are doing the right thing for men i would advise them to understand that this war is not the business of some individuals, that it is our common business. it can affect everyone . we are doing the right righteous work and we have no other option. this month, we will celebrate independence day and flag day and what is the price of this independence for you personally when for example, there will be flag day, in addition to the greatness of flag day, something is immediately like this to me excuse me, such a picture when the flag is covered with the flu

of a ukrainian soldier . for example, a certain honoring, so i said that wherever you are, when you are in military uniform, always honor the flag, because this flag of your brothers was simply ordered by god, fate, that we are today and we we are standing here, i am standing with you talking, someone with that flag was covered and that flag as the last gift from the state is handed over to a family member and this flag has our heroic strength like that that is, i already called the 17th year the 20s the ukrainian underground - these are thousands of lives in siberia so taken away for this flag, because for me it is a very big and sacramental river, but it is not only that on the other side. these are the sooty flags pierced by bullets that

are painted on our tanks by the hands of brothers who they are transferred here where they are there and to the great regret remains the autographs of people they no longer had they wrote it is also a mini for me this flag is therefore for me a shrine that i value very much in relation to our statehood somewhere approximately the same and our desire for independence it is sichovi shooters with their greatness. these are our 60s, who actually were so, well, who gave themselves . who sported their lives, if you can call it that , but they gave themselves completely to the struggle and were punished by the totalitarian system. this is the heavenly hundred. this is already on it is a great pity that tens of thousands of new heroes of ukraine are being carried away, whom we are limping er, this is the price of independence and it is gaining a somewhat different

, er, such a meaning, what a simple holiday , independence day will pass, time will pass, of course, we will do beautiful, lush concerts, there will be festivals, life will go on but this is the price, it must remain, and it happened to me. of course, the war is a tragedy for me, and if it is there, i am cursed in no way, but it happened to my life this way, and i appreciate it. i do not know how much good or bad i did in it well, i probably did a lot of such useful things, but this year or a year and a half during the war, i would, uh, i would have invested much more in my life during that period than what i did than i did everything else that was until that time because i

i am in the right place, i am doing what i have to do in such difficult circumstances and i am proud that i belong to this nation and i am proud of this nation and i am proud of my brothers. thank you for this conversation. i thank you. and in the ranks of the 6th volyn border detachment defends ukraine serhiy godlevskyi stay on the public chevron that is approaching victory, the enemies thought that independence was just a word for us, but from the first steps on our land they were convinced that for centuries we defend our

independence and are ready to fight for it again the forces of the defense of ukraine stubbornly unceasingly step by step we win out we gnaw our land out of the enemy's claws our will our independence we thank you for every moment and for this day we bring independence every day of independence we sing the unbreakable hits of free ukraine and join the collection for the demining of countries this is a charity concert of the band okean elsa give a concert to us live here tomorrow there will be independence of ukraine in marathon

the only news at 21:15 we were told you understand that you are going that you want to go to the hottest spot world, we understood my name is vyacheslav , i am from poltava, and i have been living for 24 years. years 14-15 and at that moment i already began to understand a little what was happening in the country, but at that time i was too young to join the army in the anti-terrorist operation then began and at that moment i wanted to do something for the country to do something for my development

military field and at that moment i just got into a so-called a-a youth organization , which at that time was called the azov civilian corps, and there we were taught military affairs. i began, let’s say , to improve myself in this over time. a was already beginning to teach this little by little this at the time when i was already about 17-18 years old, i was already an official military instructor, so to speak, because i was not accepted into the army and because i was partially unfit due to my health and still wanted to do something for we didn't deploy these military commissars and said don't even come here on february 24, and since there was a certain large-scale invasion, i was already in the poltava centuria organization at that time, it's one of the organizations of the azov movement in ukraine, which

included training and ah well, it was an organization for young people first everything in it was conveyed to young people, what should always be in the minds of our children , of our teenage generation, who they are, what country they live in, they taught the same basic principles of medicine there, well, so that there was a healthy and prepared society , a full-scale operation began, we are based in our emergency backpacks were already ready, our units were already ready for the defense of poltava because we saw how the enemy was operating, but then the data intelligence was not as good as it is now, you just know, someone said something, somewhere there , some tank is going, some kind of truck is going and not understood that we did not understand, no one understood what was happening, some of us had weapons, but this

weapon, first of all, it was not enough, and secondly , it is not the weapon with which you need to go to war rifles at that time, our main task was to get rich with weapons, of course, in a legal way, not to go. they stormed something there, we went to the military , they said that we are a unit, take all our passport data, take all our documents. but you give us weapons to defend ourselves first of all, and yes and they refused us. we started uh, try to do it through the police, the police at the moment when everything was getting out of control and no one knew what to do went to meet us and gave us weapons . - this is to strengthen the defense forces. and at that moment there was no such understanding as a checkpoint, there were no structures , there were no protective camouflage elements, uh, it's just a road

, it's just uh, people are standing and that's all, and we arrived, and at that moment we were told that we were met who you are we have already represented to everyone that we are azov and people trusted us because azov, thanks to the 14th and 15th years to well, was already able to prove to the people and to prove to all the defense forces of the country that we are not just a simple unit when the full-scale the invasion was very, that is, the drgs, the separatists got all wet. there were a lot of different sabotages , that is, from the civilian population, our main task was to identify all these people, to identify and prevent all these, let's say, their actions, and everything is like those who already more or less had it's normal, mmm, we remained based in poltava, we were already a combat unit, but also an unofficial one. because we were, of course , volunteers, that is, we had no documents

, nothing, only weapons were fixed on us, and our main task was that, first of all , we should somehow be legalized, and not be - by some internal partisans and a-a hmm well, something to do because the fighting is already in kyiv. we wanted to go to kyiv. the azov command refused us because there were already uh-uh well. there were too many people , there were several tanks that got lost on our territories, and of course these tanks began to meet at the very first checkpoints. well, we arrived there, our main task was to neutralize these tanks if possible. well , to neutralize the crew or take them prisoner . of course, we arrived there, we did several operations there, and then i for the first time in my life, i saw the enemy with my own eyes, with my own eyes, i saw the enemy, that is, the enemy is russia , a russian tank stupidly drove into my land

and just started shooting right and left and killing people, so it is my enemy automatically and at that moment it is for me let's say it was the first step to that, because i was pushing for the combat path, the azov boys who remained in the unoccupied territories began to create a unit called the ssua outside and they were created there in kyiv, in kharkiv, in other cities, and this is a unit that was already officially subordinated to the armed forces the forces of ukraine, and let's say the backbone of this unit consisted only of azov citizens , it was very difficult for me to form a unit , one of the poltava commanders said that people are being recruited into the new azov unit in kyiv attempts to go there and talk, maybe you will be taken a-a this new unit was called the third separate assault brigade, famous