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[000:00:00;00] for example, how did the korean war end? well, it ended by dividing two countries, essentially two different countries were formed. one country began to develop rapidly. south korea became one of the most developed in the world. well , the second one, we know where it ended up. they see this example and think. what about this can be taken in ukraine and they start the process of communicating, talking, discussing, it is absolutely possible to say, well, with your own well, maybe even with an absolutely sincere, noble goal, as they see it, or, for example, there is germany's history in europe, such an example is very hot. the last example was when, during the cold war , germany was divided into two parts, west and east germans. by the way, they never recognized this division, they were always in favor of a united germany, but part of germany managed to get membership in nato, the european union developed extremely and in the end then united into one single germany, therefore western politicians look at these examples and say well, what can be found from this
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for ukraine, and they discuss it with me, that is why in these discussions and discussions, we simply look at our own history and try to offer something for ukraine based on our own history, another thing that ukraine will agree on. diplomatic dialogues defend your interests explain what is possible what cannot be said in general in ukraine, what compromises can be talked about in general, which ones are better to start even for ukraine, but in any case what , for example, from time to time these statements say and for me, for example, in addition to the unacceptability of certain proposals expressed in the west, they also say that in ukraine itself there is a very immature need for such an honest adult conversation between politicians and citizens regarding the strategy of the ukrainian victory regarding the development of the war regarding the unification of ukraine
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regarding what the war can end and when it can end and that these conversations are supported by some analysis by some very specific proposals by some responsibility of those people who express because you know it is easy to call everyone to fight they are the ones who have no responsibility for this, so when we hear such conversations in the west, we have to put understanding into it , for example, we will use the reasoning of the supply of weapons and in ukraine gradually try to speak like an adult with its citizens, because when there is no such adult conversation, these adult conversations are replaced by some populist phrases that then they end either with disappointment or against no one. thank you, mr. serhiy. it was serhiy taran, a politician, a deputy of the kyiv city council, we work live of the espresso tv channel as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms for those who are currently watching us on youtube i invite you to take
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part in our survey today we ask you about the following: is peace between ukraine and russia possible only on condition of the capitulation of the russian federation and your option if you have it, please write it in the comments, it is important for us to know your opinion, then we are in touch with andrii illenko, officer of the freedom battalion of the 4th brigade of the operational assignment of the national guard line , mr. lieutenant, i congratulate you and have a good evening good evening, mr. andriy, let's start with the situation on the eastern front, where you are now in that part of the front. tell me what is happening now and what is the situation exactly in that part where you are, everything is going on as always , heavy battles are going on, you know, mr. serhiy, they are quite capable it is difficult to answer this question, because i say the same thing all the time, hard battles, er, for
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these words, well, it would be better if we did not go into these details , what is happening there, how is it happening, because we are speaking to a large audience, not all information needs to be disseminated. but if to speak briefly well, the task is completed, the enemy is destroyed, the enemy's equipment is destroyed, all our units are performing the tasks that are set , well, this is a war. such a war. every day is hardly yesterday or the day before yesterday or a week ago. it is somehow very different from today . i can say that behind all this there is a huge heroism of the soldiers of every fighter and hutinist gunner to the air reconnaissance and you can continue the medic of the mortar and so on, this is
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a big job, a well-coordinated job, which is all it is done in order to fulfill the task of destroying as many enemies as possible and saving the lives of our soldiers. today, the minister of foreign affairs of germany, olena bervoks, said that the mini fields in ukraine are so big that uh, these mini fields. if we compare them to west germany, we will hear what analina berkova said that according to some accounts, it is equal to the size of western germany, so now the question is how to cross this mine belt when it is so heavily mined and you cannot simply demine it because you are under constant shelling, that is why ukraine made it clear that it needs the means to cross this minefield, the british have already delivered some, and we are now discussing how we can satisfy this request together with other partners, because it is about the right to
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self-defense mr. andrii we have heard a lot about what these are the three lines of defense that are on the southern front, which are called the surovikin lines, that there are solid mini-fields and it is very difficult for our e-military to pass, that during that time the occupation of the kherson part of the kherson part of the zaporozhye regions continued, that they managed to build such large defensive redoubts in your direction, are there these defensive redoubts and are there those mini endless fields that ms. anna lena berkova says about? well, everything is mined. of course, the enemy has also been preparing defensive positions on the front line for many months. in principle, not particularly changes because if it is clear that they mine a lot
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of mines in them, and so on, accordingly, well, we also mine because in some areas the enemy is trying to switch to counterattacks. and here , our mining is very appropriate that it stops the water and destroys its equipment, destroys its personnel, and so on. well, the entire front line is mined somewhere more, somewhere less. it is obvious that in the south they built defenses for a long time and invested a lot of resources there, but in principle, along the entire front line, everything was replaced in this over the weekend, volodymyr zelenskyi visited denmark in the netherlands, where it became known that the netherlands will provide a total of 61 f16 fighter jets, oleksiy reznikov, the minister of defense
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of ukraine, says that the key factor that the plane itself is only a platform that will be used with the armed forces of ukraine, let's hear what varshikov said, the key fact is that the plane itself is just a platform, we need to talk about weapons, about missiles, about shells, about bombs that will be used by f16, we need to talk about preparing the infrastructure for so that we can listen to them and they can perform combat tasks, which means training our not only pilogenerators, technicians, people who plan operations, these are tasks, and these are several hundred people we have to train for the first birds in the ukrainian sky therefore objectively without exaggerated expectations. i think that 6-7 months is the minimum period that must be consciously evaluated, but if it is a little longer, i will not be disappointed, as according to you mr. andriy , the presence of the f-16 will change the situation for on the russian-ukrainian front because i
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understand that now the russians are quite actively using airplanes and helicopters already on our territory, well, on the occupied territory they are shelling the positions of the armed forces of ukraine, 16 will definitely give a lot of opportunities tactical for our defense forces will greatly expand the range of our capabilities - this is absolutely obvious, well, it will improve the situation in 16, what do you say? we are waiting as soon as possible to see these fireworks that will fly overhead over your heads, but in the direction of the russian invaders solovyov's propagandists are already threatening to use nuclear weapons if ukraine
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gets an f16, we will hear and see the strike with tactical nuclear weapons . the american tactical soldier says, we will answer, it's scary, yes, no, it's scary, again, it's a video, only nuclear weapons, but ours, our traditional nuclear weapons , they will prepare them . it is necessary to do this, they think that we have too many people who read that there is no reason. well, why
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are we cutting our way back? then already well, here are the steps that must be taken, that is, we must declare yes and conduct a series of events that show that we are in the right we are preparing to use nuclear weapons they have been preparing to use nuclear weapons for so long which, to be honest, already somehow i don't know how you perceive well it already looks like this either somewhere he doesn't take the gun out of the holster or if he does, he's already shooting i don't even know how to comment on this, it's funny it's just a trash can comment about the same let's comment on what miss trash tank well, i don't know, well, this whole instant tank of andrei, it is already filled with people like solovyov medvedev who, in any case , well, medvedev, he is the official spokesman of the russian
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federation, the deputy head of the soviet security council of the russian federation, so they always say that we now we will get a nuclear warhead , now we will show them, we will take this last argument and knock on the table directly in the astana tower and it will all explode, the whole world will see what serious guys we are. of the calculation of russian residents of the russian hinterland who watch this shit well, i don't know who it's aimed at: biden or a girl who will watch this madness, or maybe you know how to translate, mrs solovyov said that he is so damned well, everything we do not broadcast in 16 ukraine, well it is obvious that this is designed for the russian tv viewer who watches it, well, he needs to show, i don’t know, some evidence of the greatness of russia from
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time to time. well, there is some kind of chatter going on. well, i don’t know. well, we can talk seriously about that in general, if not without being tied to solovyov or something similar before that , and nuclear weapons and the possible use of them. well, unfortunately, we live in such a world when we cannot exclude the use of nuclear weapons. on a global scale, it also exists, but to talk about the fact that it is some realistic option that is on the table today and it could be a response there to some arms deliveries to ukraine , even if you are in 16 i think that this is just an element of a propaganda war first after all, these are scarecrows that are needed in order to scare, at least not ukrainians, but the west, probably because, well, if it
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is the only means of war that russia has not yet used, that is, all the other conventional means, it did not use it, and the war showed this that russian military power is, to put it mildly, greatly exaggerated , in no case should it be underestimated, but it is really greatly exaggerated by russian propaganda itself, and in fact the only argument they can use is to scare well, this is precisely the topic of nuclear weapons, but it is obvious that the transition to any nuclear escalation will immediately mean the collapse of russia 's state very quickly, the weather is coming to us with long-range missiles, isn't this evidence that , well, the west wants the victory of ukraine, but does not want such a crushing defeat of putin
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that is, so that he will be defeated, but this structure is the putin regime. as lav said yesterday, we are not going to destroy the structure of the putin regime. precisely because the west is afraid of an unpredictable russia after what will happen to putin or if ukraine defeats putin and some military will appear there again who will want to demonstrate that they too have access to nuclear weapons and in this way blackmail the same world again i think that it is very big, it is a complex of very many factors, definitely this is what you said. well, maybe a little in other interpretations, er, well, in general . it's just that the west treated this war from the very beginning as, say, to its
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participation in this war to that aid what is she will be given to ukraine as a factor for ukraine not to lose, not for ukraine to win and russia to lead, and for ukraine to endure and not lose and actually this was the logic of all this aid and so on at the beginning of a full-scale war at the beginning of all this, but over time this paradigm began to change to format ukraine must win, but the format of this victory, in what form should this victory be, this is a question in the west that does not have an unequivocal answer, and actually this already entails all these other questions related to the terms of delivery to us about types of these weapons and so on and so on, there are certainly many politicians in europe who fear the possible disintegration of russia, some kind of chaos there, and so on , but it seems to me that russia in its current form, first of all, poses a much greater threat than any other
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possible chaos in the event of its disintegration, and let's not forget that in western politics, they didn't want the collapse of the soviet union, well, if and that the soviet union didn't listen to western politicians anyway and collapsed, so i think something similar will happen with the russian federation, in principle, it has the same path today in the state , large-scale searches are being conducted in military medical commissions throughout the country, 200 searches, as reported in the prosecutor general's office, revealed large-scale corruption, officials for money issued military servicemen with disabilities or recognized them temporarily unfit for service , and these mass searches that are currently being conducted prove that this corruption has always been there. why, according to you, for so long? well, for so
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long, they did not pay attention to this corruption and did not not in the state did they do something like this to warn us that now we have that thousands of people have received white military tickets and, in principle, went abroad in peace, well , it is obvious what needs to be done if already even at the level of officers - can i please remove the echo because it's very loud echo i just can't hear myself and thank you, if we're talking about white tickets and the like, then it's obvious that the only way to restore justice is to conduct a new check of all those who received white tickets, well, at least starting from 2014 yes i understand that people who received them on illegal grounds, who really have illnesses, disabilities, and so on, well, if they legally received all these deferments, and so on , but for the sake of restoring
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justice, surely everyone needs someone who at one time received all the -e statuses to pass a new check and confirm a person who really has some serious illness and disability and if there is nothing to fear, he will pass and will have to. to come to terms with the fact that they still have to live honestly and there is no there is no situation when someone goes and faithfully fulfills his military duty in such a situation as i am now . 7-10 thousand dollars, then he is probably some kind of special person and he can make some certificates for himself for bribes that will exonerate him and well, this is wrong and it is unfair and it should not be like that, so i think that my point of view should be revised
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, yes, well, in general, it is obvious for a certain time but so what to do if, even at the level of official state bodies, they are making statements that there was huge , large-scale corruption. well, it means that we need to review the results of these commissions , which are suspected of making a well-founded decision. it is suspected that they made a decision , well, for money. let's say so. situations thank you mr. andriy this was andriy illenko, an officer of the svoboda battalion , the fourth operational brigade of the national guard, the frontier, friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel and also on our platforms on youtube and on facebook for those who are currently watching us on youtube please take part in the vote today we are conducting such a poll is peace between ukraine and russia possible only if the russian federation surrenders , please leave your option in the comments under this video be sure to like this video, this will allow you to promote
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this video in youtube trends, further contact mykola malomuzh, general of the army, former head of the foreign intelligence service of ukraine , general, i congratulate you and i am glad to see you in to our broadcast congratulations glory to ukraine mutual council to see the heroes of sla p generals let's start our conversation with eh with the destruction of two bombers at two russian military airfields eh several drones attacked the military airfields of soltsy in the navhorod region and the gang in the kalusa region and as reported by the sources eh according to the ukrainian truth , two tu-22m3 strategic bombers were destroyed at these airfields and two more aircraft were slightly damaged, one of the spokespersons of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense
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andriyusov is talking about the fact that, in order to commit this act, there were people in central russia who work together with ukrainian intelligence, does this mean, mr. general, that there are enough people in russia to work for the ukrainian intelligence and help us destroy the enemy is it ukrainian saboteurs your version first of all we carry out multi-surface operations to undermine and especially important objects of striking airfields launchers ammunition warehouses bridges military equipment armed and even where they are concentrated servicemen of russia, that is, you, even kadyrivians, we remember because the destruction of a large number of paratroopers or dagestanis in separate premises, that is, it is already a practice, the only thing is that today it is already mass in nature and it is not used by any one model
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, yes, in fact, there are those people in russia who signaled levels in such a way, in principle against the war from the very beginning, some saw it a little later, but those people who were ready to fight the regime, the only thing was that there was no mechanism. we with these people will be established and operational accordingly those who had some kind of training or are ready to carry out operational actions, i.e. sabotage operations, or undergo training and are sent to russia, we remember even such units as the patriots of russia, for example, there or the fronts of russia, it is precisely those who really lived in specific regions, in fact, they came to ukraine and now you can perform special tasks abroad already on your own territory of russia, but knowing the situation well, knowing the military bases, the regimes of the location, and of course having received special training in weapons and equipment, you
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drones, the same as tactical-level missile systems, explosive devices of various types, some can be mines, grenade launchers, i.e., different models , which can cause damage, and therefore, at the moment , agents from among russian citizens who do not arouse suspicion and who very deeply study this or that object are used primarily or they lived there because they served for a period of time or they were scouted later and it’s clear. with our special service , there are a lot of such operations without common formats, and they are logical because they simply blow up the partisans they can do something about the railway, but something serious, such as striking an airfield that has a special importance and several protection systems, is very difficult. therefore, it is necessary for our special services to prepare how to bypass these systems , how to orientate the security, for example, how to prepare saboteurs, what they are capable of and how the most important thing is to arm them
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with specific types that will cause real , great damage to the enemy, so at the moment this is one topic, the second topic is the sending of saboteurs of our intelligence representatives to some in addition to agent activities, technical units are only engaged in sabotage operations, these are those that penetrate. well, maybe under the guise of the local population , under the guise of the military of the russian federation, for example, a special unit or special forces, and even more so the special services of russia, and of course they adapt there and form some positions. they go as a rule or transmit through various channels and systemically about those e drones are disassembled there, they collect combat parts and it is here for specific objects, the most important thing is that here we have already worked on a system of sabotage of various plans and the main thing is that we have learned to strike at particularly important objects, as well as our military, and we are all talking about the most effective
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ways not to implement the same strategic bombers. if by sea, for example, the same k22s that i shoot down, where to shoot them down, it is especially important that everything is effective on the field, not the battle, but directly at the airfields, where they communicate, where they do not expect, where there is no very powerful anti-aircraft defense system just the strength only locally and i understood it, we know theirs for such places we give gifts and of course everything devalues a lot of blows on us in kyiv and lviv for example in odesa and kharkiv on the dnipro and in a different way where they just go down to the bardarniks almost every year except for shakeda of course these are those systems, which are also the concentration of launchers, for example, the same martyrs from different positions from the occupied territories of the crimea from the territory
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of the russian federation, this is another topic and repeatedly our sabotage groups and partisans talk about such operations, but for e the leadership of the special services of ukraine, this is the system that operates today, i would still like them to be more massive, we only do more or less strikes, but these are already targeted strikes, but the main strategic objects are already under threat and the russian military leadership knows that there is impunity. they are not there will be objects of effort, including not only the military format and bridges, including the kerch bridge oles , moscow itself is under the threat of these strikes, so far yevgeny prigozhin remains unpunished , the leaders, one of the founders of the private military campaign wagner, he was in belarus, after there was a coup or mutiny in russia, and now it has already appeared in africa, let's see a beauty from africa
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. in africa, and today lavrov danced in africa, who came to the brics themselves, let's see, mr. general, whether it is correct. i understand that russia is making a big bet precisely on african countries and, in principle, is somewhat repeating the path of the soviet union when african countries were under the control of soviet special services , part of african countries are their students studied here and were recruited here, then they went to their countries, became ministers of the president of the countries and were in contact with the foreign intelligence service of the soviet union . renew the positions that were held by the soviet union, because they, in many cases , ruled all countries and not only at
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the expense of education, but also by carrying out a correspondingly large amount of work on recruiting leaders, so to speak , of tribes of leaders, for example, of merechtik families and, of course, rich people who used on the spot but as a rule, these were people who were recruited by the special service of the russian federation, but they lost these influences very powerfully, china sent them, but the americans returned to a number of european countries, already in terms of business, in terms of cooperation, some rehabilitation countries. this is a more civilized form of relations with africa, and russia has returned to rigid forms of specific agency work , the deployment of military there, e. the republic of niger is the central african republic of the sudan
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