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[000:00:00;00] intelligence warned him that such an option is possible, they will now calculate how much the configuration within the russian elite can really change, but right away, we already understand for sure that what happened two months ago was not an agreement between putin and prigozhin that is, today's situation on this issue put an end to it. that is, it was really a riot. it was an attempt of such a putsch, and it is clear that in this situation the west is always afraid of such situations when they are not controlled. thank you, mr. viktor. this was viktor shlinchak, the head board of directors of the institute of world politics thank you for tuning in so
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late to our broadcast, olga leni is on the call, and we are joining our colleague who monitors the reaction of russian propagandists to this plane crash or to the assassination of the leaders of the private military company wagner. olga follows the broadcast from based on what the russian propagandists are presenting , that's why i hope we will now find out from olga what is being said on the russian state channels, because there are basically no other channels there, but viktor mentioned baidy on the byide in response to a question about the plane crash in the tver region, he said that he doesn't know exactly what happened, but he's not surprised. and he's been playing sports for the last hour and a half . well , that's biden's answer to what happened in the sky of the tver region
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. olga, and then there is olga. good evening. good evening. please tell me what is going on in this big russian community. oh, it's very interesting because solovyov writes about the fact that it's all literally ukrainian, and psuchi, as they say, tsepso, what was introduced by prigozhina semenyan uh, well, that's it staged, i'm inclined to this more obvious here er, well, that is, er, actually , well, judging by everything, there
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is also something like that i would say so. the fact that the beauty was not punished in any way and the fact that it was such a shock for military circles, a little bit in 16 killed soldiers and well, just a person was sent to belarus and to africa to continue doing business. it was strange, but it really is. a banal event judging by everything at least these bodies were identified. at least it was announced officially, so uh, in fact, a handsome man was killed. and this, most likely, should be called a murder. it’s either an explosion on board, or even uh, they were just hit with an s300. there was even such a version. well, then it’s still it is more interesting and how do you think events will unfold further putin i already talked about the fact that i was in kursk to celebrate the 80th anniversary of the victory on the kursk arc er, i urgently left there er
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, the wagnerites who are in belarus are already going to return to russia as far as it all this flywheel and mechanism, how will it start quickly inside russia and will it start or will putin somehow manage to stop the wagnerites and prevent them from doing what he wanted 2 months ago yevgeny prigozhin well , you know, i think it will succeed because well, the explosion and, er, the downing of the plane, well, it could not have happened without some army forces , it’s similar, you know. well, what kind of emergency do i see, that is, a mutiny of the army against some people close to putin? and the fact that, er, putin
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recently appeared a lot that his and even with his er daughter, and in principle, everything was similar to the fact that as er, the consequences of the previous fall of the handsome man eliminated the trust to which he was restored er, that is, if it is some such action on the part of the military, then it is well very well, some very specific forces. that is, it is either that he decided that he can literally do everything, or it is after all a story agreed with putin, and then it is, well, revenge is so demonstrative in order to calm the army , uh, uh, something else uh they can't go anywhere for me now for the second time alcohol seems to be particularly serious, but the death of prigozhin and utkin means that pvt. wagner simply disappears from the map of the army
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map, and of course this is a big plus for shoigu. and even more so today, surovikin was removed from the post of commander of the aerospace forces of the power structures outside the army and deployment, let's say deployed armies are still two separate things, but they now remain. and the pvk, well, in fact, they put the pvk under complete control of the army again, because there was no pvk e outside the state the budget of ukraine to russia outside of the kremlin's funding , and putin was absolutely clear about this in principle when he said how many billions was spent on the maintenance of the wagner pvc. that is, prigozhyn was just the manager of the kremlin who managed this structure, they took over the manager who
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decided a lot about himself there and they removed his closest closest assistant, that is, this er, well, the top, who is personally loyal to the er, beauty, she is essentially liquidated, and they will definitely liquidate all the others very quickly, i don’t think it’s somehow rename - this is pvc, these people who are there now in it are counted, i don't think that they will be personally loyal to the attached, they will simply transfer to the subordination to the one who will put the creams instead of prigozhin , because it is an absolutely commercial structure, this structure, well, what is it this is not a personal alarm structure . i mean, without the money of the kremlin, they are absolutely worthless. thank you, olga. thank you for the story. it was olga leny, my colleague, a journalist who monitors the reaction of russian
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propagandists to the downing of the plane with prigozhin. or prigozhina's plane, the russian public reports that the body is fattened and ducked, er, they identified it, and a genetic examination is also needed. i understand that we have a connection for ponomaryev, a member of the state duma of the russian federation in 2007-2016. ponomaryev good evening and i'm glad to see you on our broadcast . good evening, it's actually a good evening, happy holiday to everyone with a double holiday . can we hope for the unfolding of the civil war in russia and the transfer of hostilities from the territory of ukraine to the territory of the russian federation, well, at the expense of the civil war and some kind
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of civil movement there as well. unfortunately, no regarding the transfer of hostilities here. i believe that this will happen and there she is directed er movement activity er training of the legion of freedom of russia what exactly is she preparing for and what is happening now this is very positive news because er well we see how the splits within the russian the elites are inside mr. putin's entourage and now we can simply talk about the future disappearance of such a structure as wagner pvk, which is also important and positive news .
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parishioners also flew to africa and says that it is plus 50. well, everything is as we like it. well, he did not think that everything will be as they like it. literally in a few days, we will look at the beauty in africa, the temperature is working + 50. everything is as we like it. greater on all continents africa is even more free . justice and happiness for african peoples was a nightmare for al-qaeda and other gangs. yanukovych
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well, now we can say that uh, what a beauty africa is uh , putin uh, as reported by the russian media , the visit and celebration in kursk of the 80th anniversary of the victory on the kursk arc was interrupted and he left apparently, in one of the bunkers for putin according to you, was it a surprise? is it already in charge in russia, eh, conditional, conditional , some other, eh, another person, collective, eh, of russia , he was simply put in front of the fact that prigozhyn is no longer there, and then we already let's deal with my information among ourselves. so it was unexpected for mr. putin, and i believe that he remained a visitor as his friend and as a person whom putin treated with
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confidence, and they did a lot of things there in in the past, and i believe that the meeting that took place in june was not directed against putin, he was directed against what he and now i believe that what happened is the revenge of the generals, we know that today a new head of the communist party of russia was appointed and in well, in my opinion, this is not accidental. it happened right now, right today, er, as if it were putin , what would be the order to destroy prigozhyn well , they would do er, something typical for the fsb , there would probably be a bomb in this plane, or could there just be two lips began to work
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, was there poison, well, something, something like that, and here it was the attack was carried out by means of anti-aircraft defense, two s300 missiles, how did they shoot down this plane, and the fsb’s anti-aircraft missile system is a military one, and i believe that the way i just did it will not become putin’s in the name of this and this, we can even say that this is such a riot 2:0 uh, there is a different way of a different nature, but i said exactly what i said that the shooting in summer is spreading and putin is now very limited in the way he leads uh countries, if he is in charge, what do you think, mr. ponomaryov, in this situation
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, will he be personally responsible for what happened to the victim putin well, because there are wagnerites there who can return and demand some answers about what happened to their commanders . moreover, we know that in principle the wagnerites are thugs who work all over the world and they can also return from africa if they return, of course and to whom will these claims be against shoigu or gerasimov and will putin in this situation somehow manage to untangle and say i don't know, i was in kursk there, er, the air defense was just checking its work and saw the target, and it was possible that it was ukrainian they have a plane there, it's flag day, so they could just launch a plane in the direction of st. petersburg, which immediately flew away. and we shot it down because we saw the trident on the fuselage
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. there are no marches of these military eh wagners to moscow without commanders eh simply cannot happen that now there is a 100% probability that it will happen eh putin will offer eh there to everyone there 20 eh commanders of the average lamka wagner to join ranks of the russian army, this is exactly what he did when they met in the kremlin, but this determines that attention will disappear. well, he has de facto already disappeared, because if utkin had remained there as vlad himself, then they could do something, and now, how can people from africa return?
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- and switch the border, but in order to allow it, no, there is a single force that is currently located in belarus, but there, uh, second -rate, uh, wagner is first-rate, they are all in africa now, and that's why uh, they will simply dissolve in the russian army , the so-called patriots will disappear as a force. well, for them well, they will be angry now, of course, and there will be various things to say, but in the end it will be an increase in apathy that nothing can be done, if someone there tries to somehow raise his voice there, he will be destroyed and that's exactly what it is.
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what they saw today as mr. ponomaryov, what is happening now in russia will affect the course of the russian-ukrainian war . will it affect the course of the russian-ukrainian war ? -e destruction of such a combat-ready unit that was wagner, it is always in favor, it is a threat from the north, it will decrease, of course, it was not very high anyway, but, well, it will still decrease , the threat to our allies in lithuania and poland will determine more weapons that will be supply to ukraine, and also for us, for the russian resistance, this will determine that we will not be afraid of any units that can hit us in the rear when we
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take moscow, that putin will no longer have some secret reserve there, and i bring it of course could to come to his aid at a critical moment mr. ilya , it was ilya ponomaryov, a member of the state duma of the russian federation in 2007-2016. in the end, a statement is being prepared, what kind of statement will it be? and what they will say about it is not yet known. it is known that the russian mass media are writing that the bodies of yevgeny prigozhin and one of his close associates of utkin war crimes have been identified. were in it
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to the plane well, since everyone is asking where prigozhin is and what happened to him, we are on the youtube channel right now. during this live broadcast , we ask you, dear friends, where prigozhin is now and options for answers in the arms of kobzon, in hell, sunbathing in africa, please vote in this e-e survey e-e we want to know your opinion. perhaps you have some comments about what is happening in russia now, leave it in the comments under this video. well, next, next, we are in touch with taras berezovets, officer of the first of a separate brigade named after ivan bohuna, mr. taras, good evening indeed today. good evening, good news is coming from russia. how do you perceive the information that is coming in now? it is clear that there is still
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no 100% confirmation that prigozhin and utkin died, but these are the people who committed the murders. tortured ukraine, who are war criminals, and their organization is recognized by the whole world as a terrorist organization. what do you think? how will the disappearance of these two characters or the murder of these two characters affect the internal situation of russia and how will this internal situation affect the situation in the russian-ukrainian front is used to waiting for official information, although in the case of russia , any official information can be perceived with irony if you imagine that it was really an operation by the russian special services or the russian military according to the situation with putin . to his accomplices and if it was a staging of prigozhin himself, if there are or
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hypothetical doubles of putin, why not be doubles of the doorman? it is quite logical. therefore , we must wait, after all, for information that will deserve distrust. in the event that the handsome man and his accomplices were destroyed, i will be happy just like other ukrainians because these are war criminals - these are people who are involved in the commission of a large number of crimes, and considering that a fair trial for them was a very, very hypothetical, very unlikely case this is exactly the end of the inglorious eh i think that it is considered the most eh happy for all those eh who waited for this death, now we will have to wait for the death of other war criminals responsible for the commission of war crimes in
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prigozhina to ukraine will be considered liquidated, then surovikin, then what will happen to him, putin and other russian military leaders, ah, there are many versions that are now being spread by both russian and ukrainian telegram channels, starting with the fact that this was putin's revenge friend that the people are not involved in this at all, the third a staging and the fourth version, which is distributed by the russian and kilogram channels, that it was an operation by ukrainian e-e spies, who thus took a beautiful revenge for what wagner did in ukraine, the operational services in the kremlin received video from the cameras where prigozhen and utkin seem to be boarding the plane that was shot down today or suffered a plane crash under the door this is reported by the russian mass media, they are already reporting that putin's plane is now flying to valdai, judging by putin's reaction, who is this
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in the evening he was in kursk and took part in the celebrations of the 80th anniversary of the victory on the kursk arc. putin will play what is this a surprise for him? he is a plane and said listen, let’s go valdai because nothing is clear, suddenly there will be some uh new mutinies and mutiny attempts, including in the performance of the wagnerites or other military if he does not control the military, then in the military too this plane was shot down. this plane is even more of a threat to putin because they act only as they see fit. what do you say about putin's role in the current drama, which is the tragicomedy that is unfolding in russia two months
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ago in rivne 23 june when it started bugner's military coup became clear that putin lost the monopoly on power in russia because this monopoly on the control of the military structures and the armed forces and mostly of course they could not forgive it. big, but she is like that. in any case , the conclusions are the following, regardless of whether this is staged or real. the death of a beauty, er , pvc veneer, ends its inglorious history, because now it will simply be sprayed, er, part of these action films the banal-divergent part is represented by the proposal that the kremlin will take part in further actions, the part will be liquidated, but in any case it will never return to its so-called golden era yevgeny , which wagner was during all of 2022
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and half of 2023 and actually the culmination of this golden era for vag was the military coup on june 23, 24, the second conclusion is that putin is not in control of the situation in any case, if he is behind this death of a beautiful woman, it will be disturbing a wake-up call for many russian regional elites of the central ones who will now understand that putin is not really sane. by the way, yesterday's scandal during brics was not in johannesburg when they played another audio track, and of course putin's voice is there , the voice of putin, the voice of a tipster , also shows that in they are all starting to pour down, there are serious structural problems within russia itself well, finally , will putin, uh, pretend he will
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pretend that he is not involved in this, in any case, whether he gave you an order or not, he will pretending that he absolutely learned about this from his mass information, it became a complete surprise for him, but judging by the preliminary information we have , it is more likely that there is a version of a terrorist attack, because none of the eyewitnesses gives evidence that there were fired missiles of the russian air defense system. although they were in this area, at least two s300 installations were found in this area, well, it would be impossible not to notice them . therefore, after all, it was most likely an explosion in one of the engines that tore off one of the one wing of this is the reaction of mykhailo podolyak, adviser to the head of the president's office. he says that putin does not forgive anyone for a night, his own beastly fear, exactly the kind that he zeroed in on in june 2023. he was waiting for the moment . it is also obvious that the handsome man signed a special death sentence for himself at that moment when he believed in
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a strange lukashenka's guarantees but no less absurd, putin's honest word, the demonstrative removal of prigozhin and wagner's command two months after the coup attempt is a signal from putin to the russian elites before the 24th elections, fear not loyalty is equal to death, taras, well, in this situation, doesn't it mean that the murder of prigozhin utkin, if these murders are confirmed to be true , that the representatives of putin's entourage should do something with the kremlin's grandfather , because, well, in principle, it threatens those who directly carries out his orders. who is in his immediate environment that history can simply repeat itself as it was with the same stalin, well, putin in any case
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began the purges of the russian military leadership , this is what the removal of surovikin and dozens of other russian generals, as well as imprisonment by firing squad, this suggests that they, in any case, well, the exact six continue and they admire more and more surnames, including er-e well-known surnames . among the russian military, this of course destabilizes the situation, it undermines trust loyalty to the russian dictator on the part of the military elites, and this military post was just one of the manifestations of this . punchasta on this second one only now it will be more successful because those who will organize it, the russian military , they will already understand that they will need to go to the end, otherwise they may be waiting for the decorated president of the united states
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of america in joseph biden has already reacted or rather he was asked what he thought about the events in russia. he said that he was not surprised by the news about the plane crash, and the white house issued a statement that no one should be surprised if the information about the death of prigozhin, if the death of prigozhin is confirmed, what does this mean for the whole world, because we know that the coup attempt or the attempted mutiny 2 months ago was commented quite cautiously by western countries with caution because they say that there is a legitimate government that is elected in russia it's putin and those who are trying to make a move there or carry out a coup d'état - these are the people who go beyond the scope of the current legislation and do wrong, e.e., the lack of beauty is removed in this way. what reaction do you think
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it will cause from western leaders, no reaction it is not exclamatory, he stopped being a figure after that he once surrendered and stopped his military mutiny, because if he had brought it to the end, he has no rights as a figure and he would have increased his capitalization. and when he stopped at that, he was already dead politically, at least physically death caught up with him sooner or later sooner rather than later i will remind you american intelligence knew about the preparation of a military mutiny or vk wagner they reported about it already after it happened i didn't say that they knew about it well of course they don't need to no their interests was to inform putin, but the russian special services overslept or pretended that they did not see this information , that's why, er, i think maybe in a while we will learn again from the media that the western
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