[000:00:00;00] the e-mail address of which you can see on the screen. good luck, we will meet in exactly a week, and on espresso, the special show continues until the independence day of ukraine. the price of freedom. i pass the word to my colleagues at 6:00 p.m. before the day of norway's independence, the state will transfer to ukraine missiles for airist anti- aircraft missile systems and equipment for demining, said prime minister of norway jonas arster, who

is on a working visit to kyiv today. in the words of the head of the norwegian government, support for ukraine's air defense helps to reduce the suffering of the civilian population and military losses with new military aid of 41 million euros, congratulated ukraine on independence day . let me remind you that the total amount of military support for the initial full-scale invasion has already exceeded half a billion euros, us president joe biden assured ukrainians of further support and also announced new sanctions against those involved in the forced removal of ukrainian children , this is stated in the statement of the american leader, in addition, the president of the united states also expressed hope that next year

ukrainians will be able to celebrate their independence day in peace and $150 billion for security the kyiv school of economics estimated the direct damage to ukraine's infrastructure due to the full-scale invasion of russia, how much money is needed for reconstruction and which countries our correspondents will help us with this, our correspondents understood more than 700 billion dollars as of january 2023. prime minister denys shmyhal estimated the losses ukraine received as a result of russian aggression at this amount, while the adviser to the president oleg ustenko estimates direct and indirect losses in the state budget at one trillion dollars for the current year, 35.5 billion hryvnias have been laid down for the fund for liquidation of the consequences of armed aggression, this is the construction and repair of public buildings and critical infrastructure facilities

for the provision of housing for internally displaced persons persons in may, this is the third year, more than 40 countries signed a declaration on the creation of an international register of damages caused by the aggression of the russian federation. the purpose of this document is to develop a comprehensive mechanism that ensures full compensation for ukraine's losses. it means , first of all, that there is a legal recognition of russia's obligation to compensate for damages. at the legal level. of course, this is the basis for further steps , the next ones may consist not only in the seizure of russian assets, a large part of which has already been confiscated, but also in the transfer of these assets for ukraine, let's say the core of reparations for recovery, it will not cover all the losses because they are huge, but at least part of the international partners are ready to help with the recovery of infrastructure . the european union

will allocate 50 billion euros for recovery over the next four years. the united states will allocate 1.3 billion dollars for the repair of the energy system damaged by shelling received as a confirmation from the minister of finance in the united states janad ellen about the allocation of one and a half billion dollars for rapid recovery plus 800 million dollars for energy recovery , the world bank is one of our key partners in recovery, we agreed to activate joint thematic programs for the reconstruction of our country, according to the ministry of regional development, more than two million ukrainians were left without their own housing, compensation for not restoring their homes can be obtained as part of the program, there is a recovery, for this you need to submit an application in the application, as of july 31, more than 30 people applied for this help 000 ukrainians, the money a person receives is up to uah 200,000 in order to restore their property, they can be used only for

building materials and in order to completely repair this property, now the owners of completely destroyed housing can receive compensation for the purchase of a new apartment or house. ukraine can take over the experience of the reconstruction of bosnia and herzegovina after the yugoslav war in 1995, the losses of this country were estimated at 50-70 billion dollars , however, in the first year after the end of the war , the gdp indicator increased by 22 and 9%, such a result became possible thanks to the help of international donors and participation in recovery programs from the european union kateryna oliynyk of the espresso tv channel how independence day is celebrated in the capital, right now we are asking our correspondent dmytro didora and adding him to our broadcast dima slava ukraine i congratulate you on the holiday and see how you are today you're so handsome, you're standing there on the square

. it's crowded. so, please tell me how many people you saw in the capital and in general. what's the atmosphere in the city? glory to the heroes , iro. congratulations and all our viewers, happy holiday with on the day of the independence of ukraine, in fact, as you can see there are a lot of people on the maidan, but in the place itself you can not notice the citizens of kyiv because the streets are almost half-empty. i think that everyone concentrated today on the maidan nezalezhnosti in order to see this broken equipment . it was impossible to approach it yesterday everything is fenced off and surrounded by a tape, and today kyiv, uste , and the capital were allowed to see what kind of equipment was exhibited this year on khreshchatyk on the main street of the capital. i would like to note that this is

the second time such equipment has been exhibited the parade on khreschatyk, the so-called parade of russian equipment destroyed, people are looking with interest and looking at these russian trophy knocked-down exhibits. and why did people come today to khreschatyk to see and does such an atmosphere not respect the celebration of independence day ? on the contrary, somehow what is happening is a full-scale invasion of it somehow strengthens the desire to celebrate this day, and i personally feel the last two years more exalted, this is more unity, uh, you remember once again what we fought for over the centuries, not only the last nine years, but also now, i want to show you some exhibits, in particular

, they exhibited a tank that is so huge, we don't know where it was brought from, but people are already painting this tank they indicated that you can't touch the equipment because it can be dangerous, but people write various inscriptions of revenge for the cities that are shelling the rashists, in addition to tanks, they put up a lot of armored vehicles, there are also self-propelled guns and fragments of rockets with which russia fires at ukraine almost every day so, this is the atmosphere reigns in the main street of the capital. once again i want to congratulate all our viewers on the independence day of ukraine and you personally. of independence in lviv commemorated the fighters for the freedom of ukraine and fallen soldiers in the russo-ukrainian war , the military and their relatives, representatives of the government

, the public and the clergy came to the lychakiv cemetery to the accompaniment of the trembit choir chapel, lviv residents laid flowers and lamps were lit on the graves of heroes who gave their lives for our country, for every ukrainian, independence should be the main value in life, when we are convinced that we will be a prosperous, developed country and a world leader, this holiday turns into a sign of the day of remembrance of those people who shields on memorial day for those people to whom you have to pay tribute and this is probably the least i can do for more than 9 years, we have been actively fighting for this independence and there will be no independence without the victory. that is, this holiday is superfluous

once again a reminder of what is the duty what is the task ahead of koval i say goodbye and i want to wish you a quiet peaceful evening and once again thank all the military what is now at the front it is thanks to you that we are able to celebrate independence day today and bow to all the families of the dead warriors there are discounts on tablets lospirin 10% in pharmacies traveler bam and save pain can become an obstacle walking stairs not with my knees from knee pain try dolgit cream dolgit cream relieves pain reduces swelling and improves mobility of the joints can be done on foot, the only yellow cream for pain in the joints can be bought with a 20% discount, long cream 150 g in pharmacies , pharmacy ns pharmacy, a penny pharmacy

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a peaceful life where there will be no air traffic sirens where there will be no battles, we will clear the fields, the airports will work again, the refugees will return , we will rebuild the cities and villages , we will restore the dams and factories, we will heal our wounds, but there are things that we cannot change, we will not be able to return the lives of our people, our defenders independence day of ukraine no other holiday has gained such importance in recent times happy independence day of ukraine this is a terrible place and such places have appeared again in ukraine we see them in liberated cities, torture camps we know about their

existence in the occupied territories russian peace. if he rolled back to lviv, it is very possible that this place would work again as a prison, as a place of destruction, not according to who knows where i would be, where you would be, but now it is a museum at the cost of the lives of our soldiers at the cost of destruction the price paid by all of ukraine is a museum and may it remain a museum forever mykola veresen vitaly portnikov and the main topics of the week if it is used against ukraine god forbid really tactical nuclear weapons will definitely change the world history problems analysis and personalities await us john gerbs is the former ambassador to the united states states in ukraine

thank you for the invitation, if you have questions , you will receive answers, so the question is how to analyze the athletes of september that on friday at 21:15 for espresso, the independence of ukraine is held on their shoulders by real heroes protect our right to life and freedom around the clock. we ukrainians never encroach on someone else's property, but we fight for our land until victory. the sbu destroys the enemy everywhere on land , in the air and at sea .

we will definitely drive out the darkness that came from the east happy independence day ukraine sbu we are approaching victory together good evening we are from ukraine i congratulate you dear tv viewers i congratulate you on the independence day of ukraine, a day that today is strengthened by the blood of tens of thousands of ukrainians heroes of tens of thousands of civilians who were killed by the russians. during this war, this blood was added to the great blood shed by the ukrainian nation during the decade of centuries of its history, fighting with different conquerors, but the constant conqueror and invader was always russia, muscovy, the muscovite kingdom, the golden horde everything that russia has imitated throughout

its history, today ukraine has a unique chance to put an end to this thousand-year war, i will remind you that for the first time the plague came prince andriy bogolyubsky in 1169, since that time ukraine has been waging constant wars with the russian federation defending its independence, this time we have so historically it is written to us that we must win and with great efforts and great blood we will be able to overcome russia believe in you and believe in the armed forces of ukraine and support our soldiers let's support them right now, as they say, not in word but in deed, paraphrasing viktor andriyovych yushchenko so that the number of russian losses increases, the espresso tv channel opened a new collection, the soldiers from of the anti-aircraft missile artillery platoon of the 116th separate brigade of territorial defense, the guys are destroying enemy drones near donetsk

in order to do it better and faster, they desperately need a high-quality, fast, passable, durable car . let's help them save up 400,000 uah and they will be able to buy the pickup truck that you see on your tv screens now or gadgets, all the requisites you see on the screen , we have already managed to collect more than 120,000 hryvnias, so even more than half is left but i think that we will overcome it, we will and we will do it that's what we'll talk about today, but before we start the actual interesting broadcast and unusual broadcast because today is independence day and the special project of the espresso tv channel the price of freedom , which we join together, we will take colleagues today you will see and hear an interesting conversation with serhii zgurts, we will be joined by e- one of the commanders of the azov regiment is also going to have a big conversation with you today , our colleague, journalist, publicist , shevchenko prize laureate, writer

vitaly portnikov, he will talk about ukraine, what is now, what will be in the future, how is the future to be created together, so you should listen to it, it will be interesting . vitaliy portnikov is really a person worth listening to, yuri fizer will also talk about the world. the greetings that the leaders of various countries offered us today , a lot of interesting things, a lot of important things, be with us, stay and we have an hour and 40 minutes ahead of us, and this will be the time that you definitely won't waste with us. at the end of july , the international center for prosecution for the crime of aggression against ukraine began work in gaza, where evidence is collected and documented. the offense of the russian occupiers to bring the guilty to justice is called the first step to the creation of a tribunal, are there any chances of its creation, which countries already support this idea and what is needed in order for putin and his thieving panda to be convicted there in the gas , see the plot ukraine has started work

on the creation of a tribunal for the russian leadership literally from the first days of the war, from the beginning, such a prospect seemed almost unreal, the partners called this idea too ambitious, proposed to use already existing legal mechanisms, and russian tanks were then standing a few kilometers from kyiv, during these one and a half years , 38 countries of the world from all continents joined the coalition to create the tribunal, many of our international partners do not have a question as to whether it is necessary to create a special terminal, the answer is yes , because it will not be created have very negative consequences for all international law, we have the koru groups, a coalition of states, where today there are 38 states, these are states that support the idea of ​​creating a special terminal and are looking for solutions together of this question now the question is only in what form such a tribunal will function. the first option is the creation of a special tribunal on the basis of the agreement of ukraine on the organization of its united here

general assembly consisting of 193 countries of the world hands over or calls on the secretary general with its resolution to conclude an agreement with the state second way - this is the so-called nuremberg model, when an agreement is concluded between countries that agree to create a certain judicial body , the third format, a hybrid national court with significant international elements, a special a tribunal that will be effective that will be legitimate that will be recognized as an international song this is the main task for this we are working on what support is needed for this seriously wide how many countries are needed to support a lot and what model or format definitely i am sure that together we know what international partners we will find on this answer, our goal is to find a common denominator, to find the format, the model that will suit ukraine , of course, first of all, and of course , the best way for our international partners the creation of any tribunal

through the un security council for consideration in any court in gas in our situation, it is not realistic , since russia itself and china are permanent members of the un security council, moreover, neither ukraine nor the ref signed the rome statute and campanian amendments necessary for this, instead the largest our friends in the world support the hybrid option, we are talking about the usa, great britain , france, japan, italy and germany, the country categorically objects to this model of creating a tribunal for several key reasons of them that during the legal regime of martial law, to create such an international court, this would require changes to the constitution, a huge risk, a risk that the legal assessment of the crime of aggression committed by russia against ukraine would actually be narrowed to the level of an inter-state conflict. we do not need the decision of the tribunal is needed in the name of ukraine or it needs the decision of the tribunal in the name of the civilized world for full legitimacy ukraine seeks to involve

more countries from traditionally of the russian regions of africa, asia, latin america, several states of the global south have already joined, such as costa rica and guatemala, when it comes to the judges of this tribunal , it is possible to invite them to participate in this capacity as judges of representatives of the global cock , for example, those lawyers, those judges who have participated and have experience in creating the work of other international tribunals, the tribunal allows bypassing the immunity of the president, prime minister, and foreign minister of any country prescribed in international law. and it can to convict criminals in absentia, unlike the international criminal court of the tribunal, the phenomenon is not too common after the second world war, in particular, the nuremberg and tokyo trials were conducted only by two african-ireland tribunals, it worked for more than 20 years and sentenced dozens of criminals , the former prime minister received life imprisonment

for crimes against humanity, among the proven cases of encouraging hateful propaganda against a person by the media radio thousand hills , and the ex-president of yugoslavia, slobodan milosevic , did not live to his sentence were accused of dozens of acts of genocide created by concentration camps, as well as crimes against humanity after the breakup of yugoslavia . in this war , russia must capitulate, it unleashed an unprovoked, unjustified, criminal war against a free, independent, peaceful state that did not prepare for aggression in this war, and precisely this gives ukraine today the opportunity to have enormous support from the world. well, let's say that in the second world war there are indisputable facts that stalin was preparing aggression against germany, but hitler

attacked the first one and tried to avoid defeat in this way and reach moscow faster than stalin recovered. the soviet union belongs to the civilized world, and in that war hitler lost, this time putin replaced hitler, and therefore the whole world supports ukraine as a country that did not provoke this war, which is a victim of this war, but who is not a victim in essence, but she fights and chooses, and as a result of this war, the guilty must be punished in one way or another, or punished in the same way as gaddafi, who was shot, let's say, in a sewer pipe in his libyan jimahiris from his own golden pistol or punishment like senam hossein, a tyrant who was hanged or punished while sitting on the accident of the defendants in the dutch city of the hague, where the international criminal court of the united nations is located, we will

talk about it with us on the link of oleksandr matviichuk is a human rights activist, head of the center for civil rights. so what is the truth? oleksandr. i congratulate you. good day. the question is very important and important to understand today . you know that i heard a version that was recently voiced that putin, now being the president of ukraine , is legitimate, he has a certain immunity and it is unlikely that we should hope for the fact that a man will be the sole president even of the russian federation of the aggressor country is futile to hope that he will sit on the dock and then the question arises why is this huge work being done if we now have no hope of seeing this aggressor in the gas. it is not true. the personal immunity of the head of state requires the creation of an international court, which, according to the decision of the international court of justice of the united nations, this type of court can overcome personal immunities , prosecute current heads of state

, and this is precisely the nature of the aggression tribunal. at the heart of the discussion that was discussed in your story, the lucky partners are insisting on the creation of a hybrid tribunal on aggression that will not be able to bring putin to justice while he is the chairman of the state, our position as the center of civil liberties and the position of the ukrainian state that such a tribunal should be created as an international court, then it will be able to overcome immunity and it will not be necessary to wait for the time when putin somehow gets rid of his position, you know this knife for the guillotine is already being sharpened in principle for for putin, the only question is when he will be lifted up and when this uh plush head will be clamped there in special positions and let go of the knife of justice that should cut off the head of russian aggression

by russian russian this imperial uh to the whims that led to the murder of tens of thousands of ukrainian citizens. please tell me in this tribunal what should be in the first place what was the reason for which putin has already been declared an international wanted man and named as a suspect guilty of child abduction. should there be many, many, many more prisons of this cases because later there will be a whole room in the gas station and there will be guided tours one day and there will be shelves with cases against russia and against putin, and again here it is necessary to divide the tribunal specifically on putin is it on russia it should be just for the understanding of people and people. please, by the way, russia commits all these four types, this is war crimes, this is a crime against humanity, this is genocide, and this is a crime of aggression. when we talk about the tribunal, we are talking about the crime of aggression, because there is currently none an international court that can punish putin

and his entourage for what they planned , initiated, prepared and started this aggressive war, now we are documenting war crimes , crimes against humanity, we have more than 49,000 tribunals for putin in our initiative base episodes of war crimes, this is all the result of this leadership decision to start a change. and for these leadership decisions, there should be punishment, so when we talk about a special tribunal on aggression, it will consider only leadership decisions to start this war and will bring to justice the people who made this decision. and so this tribunal it concerns individual criminal responsibility , it is not the responsibility of the state as a whole, it is the responsibility of specific officials who at that time were the personification of this

of the state, the important question here is how to arrest putin, well, again, you said that the immunity of the head of state can be overcome if this international tribunal is created , there will be a certain coalition and it can be overcome but to what extent is it important to put him on the bench now is it important to put him on the bench later what is the importance here? and for example, if it happens that putin, uh, you will go the way of a beauty, for example, and just go nowhere suddenly, as it happened yesterday with another one . by the way, you are her war criminal and here you are beautiful oh, and here is yevgeny trezhevnym, there are two of them handsome, oh, or should the tribunal also take place on the other participants in this case, please, it is important to do everything correctly, we do not know when the window of opportunity will open for us, but if everything is done correctly, then when it will be opened, we will see putin in the courtroom , the skeptics are really talking and convincing, why do you want to create a tribunal in the form of the international court of justice, make it as a hybrid, so he cannot

bring putin to justice. but you can't physically bring him to justice either, they don't take into account two things, first, in the long run history teaches that authoritarian regimes fall and their leaders who considered themselves untouchable end up in court , a vivid example is he, the war in the yugoslav tribunal, and milosevic and karadzic, serbia did not want to extradite these war criminals, she considered them national heroes, but when the new regime that came to power in serbia was forced to restore relations with the civilized world, they were forced execute the court's decision and transfer these people to the hague, and so they found themselves in front of international justice, which was considered at the time