[000:00:00;00] pensions of the civilized world and by the holders of these assets on which they can earn but nevertheless, if putin says so, they will not have these assets, you remember their khodakovsky and all these cases because of that many people , even from the russian oligarchs, are actually interested in what putin will continue to do will be a person who will keep this conceptual consensus, they want to continue to earn, they understand perfectly well that someone else he will definitely not be a better sense of democracy he will definitely not be a better sense of the fact that he will treat us better of ukraine as a state to the ukrainian nation, but they really hope that, firstly

, this next head of russia will save them from the fact that they have to go, as in the old mongol-tatar times, now in dependence on china, which means that there is, and secondly, they want return to the west to have what they consider a happy life, earn money in russia and spend it there somewhere in the civilized world, and for us these opportunities are blocked, in fact, this is the main story , since economic isolation must be combined with such psychological isolation and physical isolation so that people can't actually be schizophrenic at the same time in russia and in the western world and convince the west that it should keep this framework for not just because if putin is threatened by something, it is threatened by

the russian elite from the russians well, of course, such as and like other prigozhins can raise someone up in russia, and it was, but prigozhin, agree, it is some kind of peculiar mixture of russian, i don’t know what they call a rebel and a clown of some kind from the middle ages , that is, he worked within the framework of the system and he was joined by the system but at the same time he tried to criticize them. that is, it was what raised him in the eyes of these revanchist russians and typical putin. again, he is alone on the throne and no one looks at anyone, neither to the left nor to the right. putin is alone and there is no one even near me. i agree with you when this will lead to the question of who will supply the water, but this is not what should concern us , what should concern us is how stable this

regime is and what can disrupt its stability, and here we critically need a carded strategy with carded line with west because the west naturally wants to strategically defeat this regime, but at the same time wants it to be controlled without fundamental destabilization. but if it is on feet of clay, then destabilization cannot be avoided, so here we need to maintain a very frank, very tough conversation, including with our friends , and what about this features well, by the way, about stability or instability in connection with what happened to the brought and ducked, e-e , there is information from representatives of the

wagner pvk that they are ready to start as they they say we also have a small synchronicity, look, we are already starting, wait for us, who is waiting for them, it is not yet known and where they will start is also unknown, but the wagner group without the leadership of yevgeny prigozhin, which previously posed a serious threat to poland , said this on the air of polish radio, the deputy minister of finance and regional policy , martsin goral, we must secure our border , build a system of state immunity , strengthen our armed forces, build support, and not remove barriers on our border, will you put a finger on yours? wagner's group is a threat to ukraine, and to the whole world, of course. i think that putin will now try to use military

assets for military operations and certainly for provocations . we certainly won’t cry for him 100% and no one will for sure . africa in the middle east he had won the wagons and without him there was no way and now those who weigh mercenaries will be directly used now they are actually a commodity and now they are a weapon of meat now they are not a wagner in the sense of leadership beautiful if

utkin also died who was one of the key managers of wagner. this means that wagner will be stretched and will be used banally and who will go where. what we have heard is that we will see if they have any potential, but for now i am skeptical about it from what i'm tracking uh, in russia, friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our platforms on facebook and youtube, for those who are currently watching us on youtube, please take part in our vote. in russia

, there are no options for answers. the second option will have some effect. please make the right choice on independence day and click on your favorite. well, mr. pavle, the full-scale war has drastically affected the image of ukraine in the world. we are being talked about on all continents. ukraine has become a key item on the agenda of global and regional leaders . everywhere, how during a year and a half of the russian invasion, our state changed its international positions , let's see in the story , all the years of ukraine's independence, for the world, it was an object of international politics that can be

collectively press disarm incline to sign the budapest memorandum and two events turned the world order upside down revolution of dignity as the first way to declare yourself and february 24, 2022 when russia began a large-scale invasion of our country to date ukraine is an entity with which this subject counts, it affects the agenda, and we annoy many countries, which some people respect in our country, some respect us a lot, some would like to forget about ukraine in principle, but they cannot do it allow ukraine has finally proved its self-sufficiency its capacity its ability to perceive it as a state of the leader of the free world of the united states ukraine has always been a partner but not an ally therefore there was no complete trust between the parties american intelligence could not decide whether kyiv will fall in 72 hours or in two weeks and how many thousands of ukrainians will go to cooperate with the enemy before the invasion, washington sent

us only anti-tank weapons for guerrilla warfare in a year and a half of the great war, the states became our biggest as a supplier partner, their aid amounted to 66 billion dollars, over the past year and a half, the americans have realized that ukraine is surprising the world, that ukraine will definitely not be the second afghanistan , an almost unique case. that is, we are not the main ally of the united states, we are not a nato member country, we are not in any special relations, but at the same time, we are under the center of foreign policy of the states, we are an expression of what the united states is all about: democracy, freedom of speech , the rule of law, victory over dictators , but this positive change did not help ukraine to achieve the strategic goal of taking a powerful step in joining nato right now , right from the chat germany became the main opponents of this ambitious idea of ​​kyiv during the extreme period.

it is impossible to predict . now it is very difficult to predict, but we definitely need the alliance to stop being an alliance of the frightened and they finally understood what they need ukraine in nato russia wants less and continues to dominate the information space of the countries of the middle east they mostly adhere to neutrality without joining western sanctions because they protect their own economic interests there is an opportunity to involve more in any kind of cooperation, it could be the defense industry , it could be, uh, again, partially joining the sanctions or at least blocking the channels in order to circumvent european sanctions, it can be expert diplomacy that affects the processes of political decision-making in these countries. in ukraine, it is necessary to actively involve the expert. they are trying to find a unique approach to these states, taking into account their

pragmatism and national interests. the arab emirates and saudi arabia have already begun to help us diplomatically. they are involved in the exchange of captives, the return of deported children, and in the city of gin, where they hosted the peace summit , traditionally in african countries, they flourished pro-russian sentiments there remember how in the distant times of the last century the ussr helped them in the fight against colonialism, now on the continent there is a significant influence of the wagnerites, who in one way or another were present in 12 countries. it is on the side of the southern country of the global south, i heard from the former colonialists, when the war started, they gave messages that it was a war of nato for the hemmen there, the usa , but over time, of course, ukrainian also came, some messages, although weaker, but ukrainian diplomats have actively started working in the african direction since 2015. now minister kuleba is accepted in various

countries on the continent, even about the kremlin and about china. putin’s african friends gradually understand that the dictator cannot be trusted , especially after the withdrawal of the russian federation and the grain agreement . of the invited leaders of the non-breeds, it is quite diverse there, not only grain was supplied there, there are also other products, well, there is food for africa, ukrainian, there was milk, other things , and of course metallurgy was there, uh, still china formally recognizes the territorial integrity of ukraine, it has never declared the russian recognition of crimea or other regions, but beijing has always abstained during the vote for the un assembly resolution in support of kyiv , no steps have been taken to avert aggression there, even earlier putin warned all ding-pings about the preparation of the invasion, but he probably did not feel any resistance from him, and during these one and a half years, china never once

retreated from what it accepted for itself as early as the beginning of the 22nd year, he actively supported russia. not at all levels, and what we saw. in a year and a half of the war , it is certainly the case that cooperation is increasing, because where russia did not have chinese help , probably the financial sector in the economic aspect, now it all came to russia, components for drones and missiles , ammunition, the only thing received so far from the transfer of lethal weapons, the adoption of this decision depends only on the personal position of the general secretary of the communist party, and among the positives, beijing can join the implementation of the peace formula b in the ecological, food and nuclear aspects, china has been and will be closer to china’s position, this is their strategy, but so far china is not doing anything to establish

a critical threat to the national interests of ukraine. the panorama that she unfolded in her story , mr. pal, i would like to ask a lot of things. valeria spoke about our movement towards nato, and since the vilnius summit, enough time has passed for the ukrainian side to somehow reacted or reflected on this year's updated annual plan , which is before ukraine regarding joining nato, we don't have an annual plan, but this annual plan is, as far as i remember, it was first introduced in 2008, and already then they talked about this annual plan the plans that ukraine has to implement, we have been constantly talking and the president is talking and the society is saying that we need to join

the north atlantic alliance as soon as possible. let's accept us already . ukraine overcomes this, how it implements this annual plan, that is, do you understand, for example, what we have to do before the washington summit , or in principle, these are markers that are constantly, well , the annual plan can be updated to infinity , our membership in the alliance is not yet some technical history and when they try to show what else to do with this plan , let's make it better, let's make it faster , of course it's an important story, but it's not decisive, it's one hundred percent uncritical, the main issues surrounding our accession to nato they are political and, if you will, safe, because today a significant number

of alliance members do not know what to do with ukraine, when in fact they cannot, in fact, conclude that acceptance during the war means what it means for nato and for the fifth article. will mean that nato will be in a direct or indirect conflict with russia, this will mean that this conflict can develop into a nuclear or other conflict what are the risks of escalation and under what conditions and all this revolves around this and plans - this is an important matter but definitely secondary and i know that when this new definition of the so-called annual plans appeared, i know who pushed it and to a large extent it was the germans, they really did not have any new concept, they

just wanted to show that this decision will not be a letter where today for tomorrow and when your story, a very good story, is told that the problem today is actually the americans , the germans. when this, first of all, may still mean a conflict with russia, and secondly, it also means ah, wouldn't russia want to protest the fifth stationary, the fifth article of nato is such a sacred manta it is absolutely security for the western world and the fifth article is the basis of the general understanding of how security will be ensured now and not in the future

, but so far. as you can see, no one has seriously tested it. of course, there was september 11. after that, the formal fifth article was implemented and this attack was considered a nato attack , but this terrorist attack, namely in no one has tested the military sense of nato, and now in nato and politicians, experts are puzzling over what it actually means that ukraine, which was considered a part of the russian world by many a few years ago until the 14th. and for me, the main conclusion of this plot is that the west will continue to help us, and the west

has discovered ukrainians in ukraine, but it is not enough for us. it is important for the west to raise the stakes, for the west to do more, and for us to win, it is not enough for the west to do that what he does and how he does it as well as not. it is important for us to show the western world that all geopolitics have changed and ukraine will never again be the part of a russian mayor as some believed in africa. and in fact it will not be part of the gray zone and if it happens in the center of europe there will be some variation , god forbid, not definlandization. and what does this mean when there will continue to be various discussions , reasonable and tame, but nevertheless, discussions instead of actions about the security model for ukraine and

at the same time will continue very difficult the programming process due to our membership in the european union creates a security vacuum in europe, and this security vacuum has nothing to fill . this is a fundamental question of the security of the security model for ukraine. this is the number one question for our future, because it can be military and financial obligations are discussed now but it's not a security guarantee and it could be some kind of security guarantee like for japan or for south korea and it could be a combination of these two approaches of the first video attack could be membership in nato and i believe that there is no alternative in principle to membership in nato, as long as we have not talked about it, moreover , i believe and i say this to our western friends that a successful process of joining the eu is actually impossible without joining nato. and here we

do not need priv to the summit since we are raising our expectations there, we are looking at the free steppe, we are looking at washington, this is not about the summit, this is about the west finally not just understanding that ukraine is no longer part of the gray reality, and ukraine officially from the point from the point of view of the understanding of security and politics, it should stop being part of the gray reality . this will change the fundamental geopolitics - this will change the schedules for the event. scales, and in the end we need to throw something so important to us, as i believe that it is our western parts of these scales that sifted flew somewhere

very, very far and then fell somewhere, but the west wants a controlled reset of russia and dialogue, we are not able to change it with our understanding, and this is the main issue of conceptual discussions for the nearest and not the nearest perspective, well, obviously, this nearest perspective will affect not only ukraine, because it is clear that with the war of russia against ukraine, the entire architecture of security and in the world and in europe serhii the bad historian calls ukraine the eastern gate of europe and in principle the correct definition of e-e ukraine and i c- the status of ukraine in the world and we also understand that the outcome of the war in ukraine will depend on it

the fate of europe, not to mention the political careers of many politicians, because one way or another , the future of the world will depend on what is happening on the eastern and southern fronts and what is happening in ukraine in general , and here, without exaggeration , at the same time we see that all these institutions which in one way or another functioned before the great invasion of russia against ukraine, are now unable to digest the situation, are unable to give any correct conclusion or correct recipe for how the security system in europe should continue to function, the security system in the world system, which is under the wing of the united nations, we see that all the institutions are, as they say in galicia , stuck, that is, they still can't give any correct recipe even and

what to do and what should the un do if it can't stop the war or cannot influence russia, which is a member of the un security council and constantly talks about security, peace, against some of its interests, the statute of the united nations is simple here, that is, the world has faced a challenge, this is called putin's regime and something says that we are not ready to change the regime or influence the change of putin's regime. how can the modern world , including ukraine, be adapted to the rules imposed by putin without changing putin's regime in any way? without displacing putin, you can change the world and change the situation in europe and the world, mr. sergey, the answer is very simple, and you know it as well as i do, accept ukraine, donate to the ds, make us

part of the western world, make us, for example, an element of dynamics for the western world, for that for the event to find meaning its own and actually its own meaning in this world in the 21st century and when the west is not ready to quickly reset putin's regime let him reset the space and actually independence and today is the holiday of independence and i once again congratulate all friends with this independence is the independence of reproduction we should not pay attention to russia in what concerns our future, our security, our well-being, and our security is nato, our well-being is the european so, this is when the west decides

that we are part of this world, that is recognition due to the fact that ukraine is no longer conditionally independent, as putin and the russian leadership like to say about it, and it is independent, it is independent as part of the event, and we will also review our constitution, we definitely cannot live with this constitution after the war, but when we enter the nato and the eu understand very well that we will not share part of our sovereignty, but we will show that the european union works for that, and that is only part of our competence. and this is what we have to understand that what is part of our understanding independence what we paid and are paying the price for can be shared with friends who share our common values , so the answer is very simple ukraine as a part

of the senator and this will gradually reset all other security models at least around europe and eurasia you already said about it yourself but these are tectonic changes, we are witnesses of these tectonic changes, you as the minister of foreign affairs, you know exactly what the mood was like in europe and the world. eight years ago or 9 years ago, when the great war between russia and ukraine began, to what extent how much the world has changed during that time, you can talk about the weapons provided by the west , but how much they have mentally changed and how much their understanding of it has appeared that ukraine is not russia, leonid danylovich kuchma once wrote , did he mean i still think about myself. but today it's all me and

independence. i think the world has changed a lot. i think it's in the process of understanding that in the 21st century you can't live according to the model of the 20th century . technologies are changing. people are changing . relationships between people are changing. we are at the stage of change we show that our metal was mocked before, because we have treason, victory, good and evil , and everyone said that you are incapable of tolerance and compromise. uh, friends of the west who were fans and sympathizers of ukraine for many years, our history really began in the 14th year, and it’s not about the fact that we are underestimated, it

’s about the fact that they say you started fighting for real, unconditional independence, which they shoved into the heads of putin and everyone in moscow it is real some moments were missed, somewhere you tried to move on. it was a very difficult process and we respect it, but at some point, it became important for ukraine, and then it became important for the event , for the event, which understood that it should become part of it . it will not be a simple process , it will not be a simple process and within the framework of the event since we have to keep the sympathy, emotion of a person, perspective, it will not be a simple process in the world, but it is 100% clear that the world will definitely not be the same as it was before the 14th year how was he 22 we have to complete thank you excuse me for the schedule happy independence day once again to you mr. pavla this was pavlo klimkin this was the program the verdict was conducted

by serhiy rudenko i wish everyone good health take care of yourself and your loved ones goodbye today in the issue we are talking about the second day of ukraine's independence in conditions of a full-scale war then as hostilities on the front line continue in the center of kyiv, broken russian equipment is on display for a year and a half russia has been waging a full-scale war against ukraine for a year and a half ukraine defends its independence, as it did last year, in the center of kyiv with a symbolic parade rusty russian military equipment, broken tanks, trucks and also restrained celebrations , my colleague oksana turov will tell about what