[000:00:00;00] er, so i work on i work on something else, to say in another, in another reality, in another dimension, i work with far-reaching meanings, with philosophical, historical ones for a long distance . and so it is a difficult and interesting period ahead. will last more than one year and probably more than one decade, so in reality there is a lot of work here, a lot of work for everyone, a lot of work for everyone , starting from e-e, meaning those who are responsible for it in the civil service, so to speak, on

our taxes so, er, and ending, well, to everyone, to whom, education , and simply, well, let's just say, professional qualifications er, allow you to get involved and have some kind of meaning in this very narrative war, oh, to find your place , victory will make us a regional leader in europe, oh and here are our problems we won't talk about them until the morning, we won't even draw a map of them until the morning. if we start talking about them, it will become clear to us, to a large extent , that our problems will become clear only after the victory. because what percentage of our problems is caused by the fact that these are cancer metastases, tumors the center of which, so to speak, whose mother tumor is located in moscow. at the moment, we also do not know

and do not see when, when, when, when, social surgery, history will cut out the tumor over there in the north, and then the metastases will dry up , and then it may turn out that we actually have much less problems and our victory in fact, we have the opportunity to see which problems are really ours and which ones, when we are introduced to us by our historical enemy. and best of all, it can be formulated in the words of the late georgian philosopher merabami mandryshvili, who said that we started with you from independence yes hmm independence was written well in the diaries we need it in order to see ourselves here victory in the war for independence

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. and my dad served in air defense and shot down missiles over kiev. and cool welcome to the espresso channel i am yehor chichirynda we continue the series of interviews for the 32nd anniversary of ukrainian independence today on the espresso channel azovets fighter of the third separate assault brigade of the armed forces of ukraine ruslan romanov welcome you mr. ruslan well i will say that your call sign is punk and that's what i wanted to start with, why punk is some kind of musical tradition, well, in order to somehow start with some light topic, well, it started with the fact that, in principle, i was a banker by myself

, creating two musical probations well and by education hairdressing, letter, respectively. when i arrived to the azov battalion , they asked me if i had everything, i said that i didn't , they asked what i did, well, i told you what ivan said. well, everything is very simple and without questions. well, almost nothing has changed. a town in the luhansk region that was known throughout the soviet union for the novel "red young guard" i apologize, do you remember your studies at school , when did you get a ukrainian identification card? after all, the young guards from krasnodon are still the advanced unit of the soviet communist youth when i studied, there was no young guard propaganda at my school, but i started to learn about ukraine, in principle, starting from the fifth grade in the lessons of the ukrainian language and literature . it was called our native language and native

literature. and the teacher herself she was from the western part of ukraine, she spoke ukrainian and the cabinet was, you know, such an answer in the ukrainian style, she had such a small old kobzar, and there were two cases when drunken miners beat her because she spoke ukrainian, she was a bender and everything else, but in principle, my worldview changed when , well, it was about 15 years ago when i got into the upa textbook, then everything changed radically for me by the ukrainian insurgent army, look at donbas, i also wanted to ask. i clearly remember the day of august 24 , 1991 the day of the declaration of our independence, and i was on vacation with my now-deceased grandmother and grandfather in the city of slavyansky in donetsk region, well, it's not far from the beautiful don let's just say that i remember that time

well, i followed the parliament from the very morning deputies have gathered. they have to vote for independence on the fourth day after the participation. today everything should be resolved . it was obvious, but there were very few people like me in sloviansk who were hurt by it . holiday of ukrainian independence, which at the time we thought that it just fell from the sky , but now we have rethought it after nine years of war in donbas and after a year and a half of a full-scale russian invasion of ukraine well, how do you say it? do you know this? i think it's a bit of a difficult question, well, for me personally, because i, well, how did i feel about ukrainization ? well, in principle, there is ukraine, in principle, everything that is connected simply with the word ukraine, i

felt like there was a case of fistfights when i was riding the trolleybus, i still attached a small coat of arms to my jacket here and you can imagine a trolleybus, well, it's not a small bus, so in the evening, three drunks saw from the other end that i had a trident. there in in principle, if they wear a vyshyvanka here now and they don’t even know the genetic code that is drawn there, what kind of vyshyvanka is there, well, they were really killed in the 14th year after the revolution of dignity , you ended up in the ranks of the azov battalion, yes, at that time , the battalion of the azov battalion, tell me about everything , who was the main stimulus then to go to war, in principle, in a relatively peaceful country at that time, well, look, there was only one incentive for me . and, in principle, during a full-scale

invasion, why did i go the second time voluntarily, the first time voluntarily due to the fact that i was kicked out of my home illegally, i would even say violently, so my motivation and priority, vladimir , was to vacate the home, in accordance with each year, in general. during the ato, i began to communicate more and more with people, to learn what ukraine is, to learn the history of my native land and, in principle, in general, what is our ethnicity and so on and because of that understanding of what we stand for, what i personally stand for, but because of this, i had an incentive not only to vacate the house, but in principle to drive all this to myself there in their stypen chatter. well, if brothers

14th year and you were young enough then , still a boy, there was no fear then to pick up a weapon and go into open combat. no, you know, i just maybe i didn’t realize what it was. well, i see movies there, and accordingly, but movies are movies, as shown practice is two realities when you really imagine when a film is being shot, then maybe i was guided by some kind of feeling, i almost don’t know, can take revenge simply for my native home, and besides, the plus point is that i chose the battalion. well, when i moved to mariupol, i in the 12th year, he moved to mariupol it was a long time before the revolution of dignity that i got to know the football movement. well, then, with these friends , we ended up in the ranks of azov , because then we were ultras.

well, two people said that this is a really normal person, that we accept him to us so that, well, without this, at that time, they would not have accepted him. and at that moment, i was just in kamianets-podilsk, and they recruited a milkman to me. what are you doing anyway, where are you is simple so and so, i don’t know what to do, it’s like something’s going on. well, how to sew there , whether to fight or not to fight. i didn’t serve . well, i don’t know how to take a machine gun there. how is it, come to us now, i’ll explain everything to you here very quickly. well, well, i went, well, i’m just curious. personally , i’m like a hairdresser, a stylist , who’s there? well,

the first weapon i had was the rpk. well, you know it's very interesting. well, you're still 21 there, 22 years old, you're still like that at events. wow, the blood is boiling there, plus you're brothers there, everyone there is telling you so and so and so, and you're somehow on the same wavelength, you 're supporting each other. you just have an understanding that they'll really cover your back well, because of this, you know, family communication, and that kind of mutual relations , that kind of brotherly, real cossack, opiv, well, there wasn’t even fear, the fear comes already after the battle, that is, such that during, well , accordingly, dad gets nervous, you think, but personally, everything came to me already after the event that is, you are sitting there smoking, i realize that how did i survive? well, i read your interview, you say that azov - this is ukrainian brotherhood and azov is ukrainian justice, why justice, well, look again, now

i would like to arrange a little there is the azov brigade - this is an ngo, there is a third separate assault brigade - this is the armed forces of ukraine, and this is the national guard, i am accordingly in the third separate assault brigade, and i am currently wounded . so now let's talk about injuries. cossack justice, what is so interesting? well, you know, i have been asked this question many times. i don't even know how to answer it. well, the correct answer is simply that why am i asking? because it is precisely about justice in our society now, well, there are questions people really ask for fair trials, this is the first society's questions about how this is resolved at the level of a military unit. well, first, at least let's start with the fact that people treat each other accordingly, that is , any other units

in them are a different mess. it was, that is, well, the rest of the conity is the army, and that is, well, i can’t be there, but the army of the entire soviet union gives me specifics , and accordingly, now there is already a change when it was, well , that’s completely different. and so to say that we are some kind of justice. i think that we we are just doing our duty, hysterical, and because it happened again from the battalion, what was it for me ? well, they took it from the best way to say it, or they combined it like that, and so it turned out something for the events of this time, and when there was still ato. well, accordingly , this is me you know very positive a note when there is not only what they train there, but also stories are told there, they communicate with each other. well, somehow, it is a little different, you perceive it all . that is, it is like rehabilitation. and with regard to justice , well, you understand, such a word can be perceived as

simply not quite adequate, somehow radical what they have spoken for us for 9 years is wonderful. you know that we are fascists , there are nationalists, there are some incomprehensible people, well, in a word, there was a lot of things, and that's why i wouldn't say that well, i wouldn't say that it's justice it's just some kind of calling, i don't know, maybe it's hysterical, maybe some kind of reincarnation , there's a soul, there's cossacks . the same as the characters were. this is my subjective opinion. maybe we're doing the same thing that we did back then. uh, history, well, in fact, everything is the same, a small handful of people protect a large territory, this is true of your divisions, and in one azov and in the other, the appeal goes,

my friend, punk, for example. some kind of brotherhood yes, no, it’s just historically, such an address is the first, the second. well, when a friend addresses you, well, yes, we ’re already starting to communicate a little differently, is there a friend there or something else there, sir? and when a friend is already more such equal relations between people already exist equal dialogue there is no such thing as the one above there the one below well, accordingly, everyone knows who is the commander there and that there should be an award , but without such a thing, i told you briefly there, well , they look there like this, well, there is no such thing, and the second is that there is this division into officers and a soldier, well, according to that, now he is. i mean, there is a question in some units of the armed forces, and i heard from people that an officer is a person , and a soldier is a demi-human. i even hold officer positions and a person can simply turn sharply into another non-human

and behave accordingly very impolitely towards their subordinates, as they call them in our country, fraternity is another word, and brothers there, friend, that is, it already goes like family you understand that is on which line you are communicating, that is, you have already left , the other is already leaving. to understand, you have to be there , you have to feel it, tell me about your injury, it happened at the end of spring, last year in zaporozhye, this is my native country, my little motherland, what was it? you are now on crutches, what kind of injury was it, what was it

? was still there then i agree at that time, accordingly, i don’t have an officer’s rank, i’m a senior soldier, but that’s how it happened. well, someone has to lead, and accordingly, those who went first , who had some experience, were appointed according to their positions, as it was, because at that time there was still chaos is not a mess, and who needed those positions or titles there, they were put there, that's why they are like that and you do everything. and i could get people into the position accordingly. before that, i had to personally come there to look at the depositions. understand what to do there, how to get people there, offensive plans retreat and that is, a road accident, that is, a year in the city of rovku. and after that, come back, already develop this plan, and gather the consent of the people. i have already conducted this operation with them. i ran into a hyundai terracania in front of a tank mine. well, i understand that there were two of them, because one worked, the other turned out to be near you, you were injured in the leg, jaw, and underwent rehabilitation

for a long time. tell me where and how it was possible abroad . i read your interview that you don't trust foreign doctors, only ukrainian ones. why, well, i think it's just rational, because in our country you see, starting from the 13th year to the present day, our doctors have a lot of practice, well, most of them are there, because the wounds that they have now are different from those that were there other soldiers. but in principle, it is not such a wound as that. it was received in civilian life in our country specifically, it has its own consequences . well, accordingly, why should i go abroad if i can do it here at home, yes , because going abroad, again, is, well , flying there, moving is not an additional stress it is clear what will happen there next, how to live there, what to live for, well, in a word, all these moments, if

nuances, they have a very strong effect on your condition, in principle, when you are injured, do you want to rest there somehow? yes, so that it hurts less. your condition there is more or less normal. my condition was such that i was simply carried away. the boys thought that i would soon leave , and then i woke up. then i began to speak a little at a time. the face is the same, like a mummy wrapped in water. can we they thought that was all. well, i would have been completely burnt, and there was all this leah, i don't know what kind of grease there was, what was there, there were black fingers with broken ones here. instead of a joint, it doesn't work there. that is, you have become a real cyborg now, and the jaw is the same, they will sew the metal on both sides, well, conditionally say like a conductor, you know, you can

throw a wire there in the plane, now the bell will always be, even here, now i just yes somewhere you're going through it, it's beeping while it's going on, your rehabilitation is going on, you're actively involved in the patronage service, it's called the azov support service, or do you just communicate with them? look, there's the patronage service of the angel of azov, it takes care of the e-e ngu of azov and the third separate assault brigade of the armed forces of ukraine is azov one, it's a charitable fund e- e ngu azov and there is my saprotro - it is, accordingly, a charitable foundation the third receives the assault brigade i came to the saport very interesting i just came from rehabilitation to be on two crutches eh i met an acquaintance he says what are you doing i his i'm listening. there are such options. maybe we need a couple of volunteers there because we need one and a half percent of the provision if well, it's nothing from the start here. well, as always, for example, and then i

was called thanks to the volunteers and the price is the same now. but i know what to do. let's support money is like that. well, now i'll explain . well , that 's it, little by little. still there there are not many of us, and there are not even twenty. that is, there are 10-12, that's all who are physically there. sometimes it is very difficult for us even to close the brigade because , again, it is necessary to close the cars and any mtz there is how to move how to move to refuel how to move to repair er drones are also necessary and the bottom

why fly uniform helmets armor food well i.e. the complete closure like you of the frontline service i.e. such a reliable rear but due to the fact that there are not enough of us we can always close all problems and all requests on time and it would be very desirable if people would just google the zov support or there would be a third separate storm brigade, it would be the first to take off right away and they would know what it is. that is, we have everything written there, there are sites made there , everything is very accessible, just so that we don’t talk about it much, that’s why what now well, i think that i think so, again, my subjective opinion that everyone knows what it is to help the army, that it is not there, some kind of heavenly mana, it is well, it should be , just by default well, because if you do not broadcast your army you will to dance or what if well, many people have forgotten that it was in that year i was in irpin

, i know about it very well, i remember it. for example, i would not like this to happen again. well, i think that we will now give the appropriate internet site with your coordinates at the bottom of the frame for you, it would be a lot so that people could donate to support azov and this money went to support the third separate assault brigade, the commander of which is andriy biletskyi, a former people 's deputy of ukraine, how do you have a personal relationship with andrii biletskyi? and what do you have on i mean, i mean, how do you evaluate the leader of, let's say, this voluntary movement, a movement that has been around since the 14th year? look, everything is very simple, uh, what he created, starting with the patriot of ukraine, and what is the only movement that cut professional army now well, i think here without comments you yourself understand such a titanic job and not die like others there are some volunteer formations that were yes but on the contrary it is only

growing and multiplying well i think that it simply deserves respect well according to me she is like that because this is the commander - this is the leader. but we are for it we are going because you yourself see that there is progress and other people should have honor and respect, in principle, not only to andriy evgeniyovych in general, but to everyone who is part of the third separate assault brigade to the relevant services. another delicate and difficult question is the return of the captive armies is known that since the time of mariupol and azovstalia more than 600 azov citizens are still held captive by the russians in various places and on the territory of the temporarily occupied donbass and on the territory of the russian federation. how do you see it for yourself? the return of these people, what should we do, there are two positions, one position is that this is a very delicate issue and it must be resolved in a delicate way, not without giving wide

publicity, the second position is that we need to talk about it, constantly remind, it is possible to hold some public actions . then the issue of the return of prisoners it will be decided sooner how to act. well, you know, there is also a website of family defenders on the internet. well, i think it is better to contact them because, again , they have been in the situation since that year they are constantly changing because we do not forget that the enemy is playing dishonestly and there is no telling whether it is russia or the russian federation. well, i personally don’t want to, i can’t and i won’t because i also have brothers in captivity who i know what to do with of the battalion was there from the azov regiment, which i attended when there was anti-terrorist operation , that's why for me it's under i apologize if it