[000:00:00;00] he took people to poltava, then they moved on there. he had whole operations there, lists of medications to order , here was the main such checkpoint. outpost at the entrance to sumy. we can see the bridge. it looks good and there is a normal distance. we saw how on the rise under their apcs were driving, only the turret was moving, they were looking at what was here, here was the zil with a flagpole, where was our flag , where was our corps, where we placed our food , our bags, here were our machine guns, there was a russian tank, which was captured, uh, it was fully operational with ammunition he

also kept that direction, this is the trolleybus depot, it went straight to meet us and with the old trolleybuses every night, the depot workers blocked the passage here at night , here they stopped the cars, checked the documents , the curfew, this all worked out , always the convoy from the rear, accompanied by one tank so that it could stop and turn around and give selection to those who are catching up with him. yes, this convoy had to be driven in the lower reaches . there is a gas station, they decided to refuel there, but the locals drove them around in circles, and the problem with the tank is that it is heavy to drive. slowly and consumes 250-300 liters of diesel fuel per 100 km. this is a lot, and they were forced to abandon the tank themselves in order to escape. yes, it even arrived full of ammunition without fuel. they refueled and rolled right away

. the tank commander was immediately found, the experienced guys loaded it, and well, just like that, without a fight, they just took it away. the fact that american intelligence says that we already have more tanks than before the war, now there further to the front, tell us about maxim, and maxim and i studied together since 1999. so we have been friends for more than 20-23 years together, we were at the military department together, we received i swear we work together at the university, maksym is my first deputy, i am the dean, he is the first deputy of the tykan, well, everyone knows that maksym is a very patriotic guy and in the 14th year he was there in the first days of the week and he went on a contract

with the armed forces of ukraine, he served fully contracted with experience in the ato, he is the head of the union of the public organization of ato veterans, but on the 24th, everything changed. says now you are alone dean i say okay, i'm not alone, there was a three-day pause, we didn't understand where the armed forces were, where the enemies were. they were driving around the city , what was going on, i was very happy, right here, like a light in the darkness, maxim calls and says come over, help a little, and we immediately came under his command, everything that he asked for everything that he ordered or demanded , we carried out straight to the side of the cane man , he was closed by that initially small group of people, which quite quickly grew into a full-fledged company in two weeks, there was even

a competition, people were refused the first days quite hot, well, they worked in the regime of partisans of subversive and reconnaissance groups, that is, we had a blocking post at which they sent their service, they, accordingly, small groups moved already outside the boundaries of the population of the points in the forests and only used equipment that lagged behind the main blocks , and followed the columns whenever possible there were moments when they laid down barriers on the road to wait for the convoys. well , it became calmer to continue working like this when the muscovites saw that there were convoys near the city of sumy it is not worth moving. we have to pass through the city of sumy, and through the city of sumy, not one of our columns survived, did not survive, did not reach it. it is completely clear, the first days when you saw

that they can be burned, that is, in fact , the greatness of the russian army that they all showed , in fact, it turned out to be burning it is not clear that they are also burning, respectively, i added that he is walking on the internet, he filmed it there at the russian checkpoint of the comb , so it is so guys, i am telling you seriously, if you are beaten and you will not stand put away your weapons at the turn undress unloading a fairy tale everything turned out raise your hands carefully i have a loaded weapon if someone fishes i already don't have a beach if you come here i'll see you from here everything

is clear we agreed as i understood it if our guys come then we'll go out we're nobody we do not touch the largest one-time group that surrendered as prisoners at one time, there were 22 people, that is, they then surrendered and the prisoners were collected here by the locals, so many people were like that, they directly said, listen briefly, what is the weapon here you are coming to us. we will hand you over there later, you can say ours . in those days, the heaviest vehicle was the only one, and before that we were the only one, with our own transport, our own light cars, but one fine day they called us and said that there was an opportunity , it was a bank. well, there was an agreement with the military commissariat that the banks gave them equipment and it was possible to have one armored car exactly 34 the day we

received it through our roadblock, there was a breakthrough of two and two batteries and, accordingly, it was just the first baptism the ptr broke through, but then it was managed to drive him so that we on ordinary means of transport, they drove away, guys, it’s quite sad, but thanks to the fact that on this day we were given an armored vehicle, yes, it was given to us , he accordingly saved the situation, both by capturing and blocking the russian occupiers, respectively saved the life, well, at least the driver, and yes, i think that probably the passenger who was there now, he is, accordingly, this is the combat story, now, in principle, it is a bun at all roadblocks in the city, they already know it, they have seen it. this is a legend, the shop characterizes the degree

the hotness of our volkswagen heads to attack the russian armored personnel carriers and we managed and the suspicion is that if we had not been elected to the points we would have prepared with our vehicles thank god that he appeared and now you see that we are getting stronger , improving, learning, i can say that we are ready for any events well, of course, he is a good person, it was the capitulation of russia and already a victory, but we are ready to prevent the re-admission of all these traffic jams on the territory of not only the city of sumy, the ukrainian region , yes, thank you very much, yes, of course, not like that

they tell you, it means that they were training, tell me where we are in sumy , you are in one of the cities, which in the first days was designated as a volunteer center, there were no names , there was a kind of distribution center, uh, later there were too many people here, but there is nothing to do with it it was possible to do, and in fact, the fact that there are no people here now, this is two months , is such nonsense, because two weeks ago there were at least 15-20 people here permanently. they consist of two rooms in the fact that there are still things left here, which well, let's say here, this is already the case. this is on the scale of the city, on the scale of the needs of tour defense - these are trifles , but let's give away what is left. we bring tactical first-aid kits of the nato standard and it does not work. for some reason, there are also only

such small things left here, different battery chargers, a little, well, i have shortcomings there in the same telegram so that the message if forwarded to a you have already deleted the request, then for three more days, they bring you some slings, you know, or some velcro for sewing something, the fruits of the fact that it was actually already here, so, well, we so rudely called it second-hand, by the way, which are not really needed in fighters, and we they were already transferred to the needs of the houses there, to the boarding schools, and all that happened. that it united around us because we actually became informational if such a thing. in short, we know how to speak and these people did incredible useful things. and we told them listen to us there is an audience, let's throw the key, what do you need, we found it there in two months, we have already distributed that the sumy fund deals with clear directions there, ammunition, first-aid kits, walkie-talkies , the volunteer center deals with such semi-humanitarian things, provision, and sugar does informational work, if everything is as it should be

but in the first days it just clicked, there was such a straight , well, in a good sense, a black hole into which everything just came and from here everything went today i talked with the guy who started everything here , he says i recorded everything until two o'clock they brought and then i couldn't, i threw away the notebook because well, it all started well, i just drove up, if i didn't work here constantly the first week is unreal, just unreal , this quarter is here, you know when is lunch and there are restaurants here, there are not as many cars as there used to be on the 25th, 26th, and 27th, there were and remain online media, but you need the constant support of the people of sumy, and they should feel that you are needed for the city, and in critical situations, you also fulfill your role. long term support er it will work there are changes. we saw the first changes in kulikov. it started because we were actually there

. it was just a year after the foundation of the publication and we saw a critical situation where people want to understand complex things in simple language . order, and when the invasion itself took place on the 24th , full-scale, we have an instant increase in the number of subscribers, simply because we start speaking in a normal language, not reposts of the general staff there, although of course they also led a very high quality of this into the war information and this front was also provided, but we said so , friends. we are in sumy. we work here, we control the situation - we control the information space, at least and we did not go anywhere, we were one of the first to report on some things that were urgently needed there , including there on request people saw it. at some point, people began to support us, including us, probably for the second month. already the war and told people about what we are reminding that we are a publication that, including there, needs support and people absolutely it's cool. it was accepted by us, by the way, i can probably even say this completely to myself in march. we collected uah 100,000 from one-time donors

, it has already disappeared, the advertising of which has definitely disappeared, now it has disappeared, other sources of income there have disappeared, we saw what people are capable of doing , this is us ok, then we work for people like us, you see the sums after the victory. i really hope that the sums will finally realize the things that were in the mind of a very small number of people in this passionate minority and more people will support these ideas. i want people to there was this request for normal transport, well, for quality infrastructure, for quality services, medical, educational, er, for this request to appear , there are people who generate these ideas. there are enough people in sumy who support. i hope that during the war, after the war, there will be more during

the air alert here kebabs were just being fried. they appointed me the minister of the atmosphere in the first days of the khabi because i was sure of our victory from the first day . i was never depressed for a single day . i always said that long and long will be good. what kind of yard is this? where are we and uh, it means from the first days. as you can see, there are still unfulfilled containers. people , even cafes. whose cafes were opened? i was personally present when such and such an elite drink was poured because we needed bottles and that's exactly what happened here, you see, yes, the styrofoam here has not yet been used, the cocktail bottles were actually made, a lot of people understood who was fighting, but the rear also had to be provided, because somehow they organized themselves because they already had the experience of the first revolution, the second, that is, the people quickly

understood that something had to be done right here directly, yes, they made cocktails, engaged in humanitarian work, the first days when humanitarian corridors were allowed from sumy , e.e. i am personally very glad that in the first three days , about 100,000 residents of the city left , because the first days, when it was still unclear in what direction these events would develop these people were primarily engaged in panicking on social networks suma brosseli suma threw us a khan here and there and as practice has shown, this had a great impact on uh from a negative side on morale and when they all left where they are already quietly quietly shitting in reality, social networks became less, significantly less people remained in the city who knew that we would win, that the sums stood up and we never had a panic, we did everything to win , tell this story that everything happened to you in the first days, sees the evening of the second day of the war

pass, dima's wife quit to my wife, the video under the lathes, the guys came to the villagers, they wanted to surrender, guys , i’m telling you seriously, if you get beaten up and you can’t stand it, then put down your weapons at the turn after seeing this video, i realized that i need to take them, they are ready at night, that means to me the idea comes, like in the second world war, like a soviet movie, we watch russian, give up. similarly, here and there we found a big column in the morning. without weapons and one car, the guys from the siege with machine guns are going, we see a tank, we see a tank on the field, i call, he guys , a tank, we are chasing a tank, they tell me the paramedic , don’t run, we don’t have any, we only have machine guns, what do i say, we will take it there, we will take it, we will take it no no no don't chase good wait hop tanko one ran away here i hear a sound on the highway something is humming

so good we left the central road a little to the side the beter slipped the side of the cane man tell our guys i say so and so he berter has arrived i say come on maybe at least bitterbrai says well, we don't have any automatic machines. yes, only for small things, if there are people. then yes, i say. let's skip along the highway. we drive along the highway and from the reed we see two units of forestry machinery standing on the left. on the right, the field shows that the russians were standing there, because there were a lot of them. the remnants of all their dry packs and we are approaching and we already see aha, a car is driving from the side of the village, a car is driving we stop there two people were driving an elderly person, it looks like there is someone there and says yes, it looks like it is set up because it is smoking something. the equipment and everything stopped. well, rom, well, we've already passed the road once, how many times have we passed, why kill, we're going there, then it turned out that there was an uninhabited man, just uh, the prisoner we took there. he was burning a fire near the tank and

a log was big, there was smoke, and a man who i drove by and thought it was you guys, but it was just pecking at a log, and there just happened to be this oleksandr from khakassia. introduce yourself. andrii oleksandre gennadiyovych. month, date, year of birth. august 30, 1997. city of residence. to go to the khakas for 5 days. that is, we are going to him. what are you here at all, what is there at home, the bride's mother is waiting for more than that, this volodymyr zolokin , the day before yesterday, he interviewed three prisoners, and this sashko was there on the 24th, we already

were in ukraine, in ukraine, old equipment, the commander said that the commander of battery 27 would return, i was taken prisoner, there is a photo of when we took him prisoner, and there is a photo of where he is now, he has everything recorded, that's not what but first of all, yes, i was surprised its external condition is really like a homeless person, moreover, even ukrainian homeless people, even with second-hand items, now look better than that. but the most important thing is that my wife gave me cooking gloves last year as a gift, they are so healthy that there is something from the oven they will take them out, but really, he had them just camouflaged, that is, shock, stress, damn, what is the second army of the world , you guys, what are you talking about, what are we to him? where is your weapon, the commander took it, how did he take it, and you were not taken away, says two of my comrades with him, there was a commander with them they ran and jumped into the kamaz while i said my things , i looked at the kamaz, i followed him, and they left without me. as one russian soldier said, they didn’t leave

, they forgot, they forgot. yes, i can say with 100% confidence that if , god forbid, he wants to go for a walk under the sums again, the entrance will not be the same as easy as that it was two months ago because they will already be met at the border there, everything is already charged normally, well, in the plan, not to reveal military secrets, i think this will be enough, but our people are already waiting for them there , when the war started, and at first i sat at home for two days, but i realized that they were asking at home so you don't have to sit and you have to go somewhere to help you with your friends, and we went to the defense, at first it was very steep , then after looking at the commanders, uh, at the people who surrounded us, how they behaved and how

we should treat everything, appeared understanding of the situation, some uh, such a cossack spirit. in any case, in any case, even if someone gets here, he will not come back alive, what will happen now, an idiot, because our guys, because the guys gave us stronger, became stronger, in any case, katsapas they will be told what was the attitude towards the war and now . has the attitude towards people changed? if before it was more indifferent that the children on the playgrounds are smiling. it is clear that it is happy. well

, you are happy to look at the city and happy that everything it's good. it's good that you don't run to the basement , don't hide how you see ukraine and the sums after the victory. i think that our ukraine will change a lot in general. and others who i think will help us will somehow advise

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the format of a war of attrition means for ukraine and our partners, as well as for the enemy of russia . now, in my opinion, it is a somewhat strange period , because in western comments , the narrative that the offensive of the armed forces in the south is turning into disappointment, they say that they have given so many weapons and not enough progress, so the joy is that you concentrate your efforts in one point, children more actively in the direction of melitopol and think less about losses, but in such situations it is important to pay attention not to politicians or unnamed officials of the pentagon or the white house , but to specific practitioners with experience, and in contrast to these army publications, yesterday in the same washington post published the material of general petraeus under the name ukrainian counteroffensive may still surprise critics petre , this is the former commander of the collection

forces in afghanistan and the former head of the cia and is probably one of the most famous and respected american of the military and he says about several important things, although it seems obvious to me, firstly, that the war is not linear, it does not go according to desire or plan, and therefore prematurely, this excessive pessimism due to the seemingly slow advance of the ukrainians is completely inappropriate. second, what the general says is that this is not the end of the ukrainian operation in zaporizhzhia, but it is still the beginning, because the ukrainian operation has been going on for 10 weeks, but according to petre osa's assumption, it will last at least another four months, and the third thing is that he says that ukrainian actions in the south are carried out according to the principle of exhausting, stretching and beating the enemy along the entire front line and these approaches look quite logical and effective where the flags are in fact, but we will talk about the advice later and i will also say

that the ukrainian commanders claim that the time for their contrast has not yet passed and the commander-in-chief of the armed forces, general valeriy zaluzhny he is referred to by another powerful american publication informed officials that his troops are on the verge of a breakthrough. so , we will discuss these different angles of view on the current front-line reality with our leading experts and military experts in the next issue of our military program, my name is serhiy zhoretskyi, the director of the information consulting company defekt express, which, together with press channels, strives to highlight current trends in the field of security and defense, and now mykhailo samus is joining us, he is the head of the international analytical organization nu, a geopolitician, and also deputy of the research center of the army of conversion and disarmament mr. mykhailo glad to see and hear you on the air

espresso channels mr. serhiy i congratulate you i am very glad so, i drew a general picture that was related to different visions and assessments of what is happening on the battlefield, and i would like to give you my own angle of what is happening and what are the current and potential dynamics on the line of contact . the athlete did not hear you. your question, i would like you to assess what is happening on the front line and give your own assessment of these current and potential dynamics that may affect the situation on the front line , what is happening precisely from your assessments. well, it is actually really strange to read the assessments in the western press that it is necessary to focus , for example, on one area or to hit one