[000:00:00;00] on a pair of people's deputy and also a journalist, he told the deputy that if he turns out to be right, then she should submit a mandate , and he told the journalist that he should stop being a journalist for three years and leave the publication ukrainian pravda . now he says that he minister reznikov does not know where the winter jackets for $29 came from. because he says it's possible that turkey somehow started evading taxes there, and so on, because in fact the jacket alone costs $86. well, how much i understand if it's like that if you know how to start from the position that no one tried to steal anything, but everyone tried to get some of these jackets very quickly because there was a mass mobilization, then one of the versions that is now emerging little by little is that you just needed a result and not hmmm, let's say

documents and maybe just people who were close to the president's office were connected , the same fair and so on, it was just necessary to already have those jackets, in fact, the story was very similar , what do you remember, which cost to a certain extent the presidential petro poroshenko, when necessary it was necessary to immediately get spare parts, because the war was going on and those spare parts somehow were still bought from the russians, using the readiness of the russians even during the war to sell spare parts for their weapons to the warring army of the opposing country. what was going on, according to that there was somewhere approximately the same story, that is, someone just went to turkey and gave his money with the fact that later i would get back from the budget well, somehow it happened like that, that is, there was some real amount the official amount was paid, which was paid to pay less duty, well, you understand what we are talking about now, but then, in principle

, they somehow already settled with those people, and the quality has already turned out, and the issue number three has already passed, in principle, they are already talking about it the minister of defense has already said that at this moment there was a different order of priorities, that is, the first is efficiency, the second is, well , there is this one too, and the price, the quality, and the price - it was already in general above the third place , is it really so? are we ready to perceive this is the explanation we will speak now. gennadiy krivosheev, also a member of the anti-corruption council under the ministry of defense , the head of the public council under the kmda and the people's deputy of ukraine of the eighth convocation, join us. good morning . in the comments, they write on facebook that the minister is

already a certified lawyer, and since he is an experienced lawyer, we would not invest such a level, no, no , we did not come across such a thing at all, so that means he knows something, which they may not be talking about now, but in any case , they are not cleaning up the problem that i already talked about today. i guess i don’t even know who is not talking. there are real problems, and therefore it is necessary to give a clear explanation. and about what the ministry has to do to make my opinion quickly enough ah, the first thing we can say is that well, the scandal has already started, which actually can be said not from the $30 that became 80, but actually from the fact that the jackets changed from summer to winter. well, they were supposed to be summer and in fact they turned out to be winter. and from here there was a change, the change was the price, and today we have clearly seen and understand that these are definitely not summer jackets. i think that on monday a suitable one will be ordered even there, and

there will be an independent examination test, and an independent laboratory must indicate that these are actually winter jackets . jackets or summer jackets or something like that, i don’t know, autumn ones, something like that, uh, this is the first, second, um, going back to what you said to the couple, uh, there is still such a threat , yes, that is, well, in general, well, let’s say how much of a threat there is, as it seems to me what it follows from the fact that bohdan khmelnytskyi, who is currently behind bars, who had a mandate to carry out relevant purchases there and the like. no one is saying why, let's ask him a question. he signed these contracts, so i think the question is here. the person is under investigation by law enforcement agencies. that is why if we want to get some specific answers in detail. it is possible even politically

to understand who was involved and who gave orders to whom and did not give orders, then probably here you need to ask them, ask him, in fact, there is such a multi-layered story, and it is probably necessary in it. here, for myself, i am trying to isolate from it several important points for which i would like to receive some separate answers well, first of all, this is one question, a separate question, this is a question, really, what are these there were jackets, because they said that at first it was as if winter summer jackets were brought under the guise of winter jackets, now you say that on the contrary , that they changed this nomination in order to justify the price there, for example, or well, that is, in this moment, that is, the moment itself, actually, what did we buy, what did we buy for what money, the second moment, who did we buy it from and for what money , that is, who made money from it, that is, if some turkish companies made money from it, and they sent us this product, and they, respectively he got where he needed to be. okay, that's one story. if

some kind of gasket company was used here . how in our country? they earned how much because of which nephews there is a different way of purchasing you, so well, that is, well, that’s it. well, here they arise. by the way, one more thing to add to the question of this type. and how, in principle, a person who worked for the whole family all his life for boguslaev suddenly finds himself close to of military contracts is in a specialized committee , has this person in principle passed all due diligence checks? families and such, here is the third block of this question, as it were, this is actually this couple . how much, in principle, can the minister of defense afford such statements that are public, which actually show

the sick state of ukrainian democracy, that in our country the minister of defense is half-jokingly trying to shut his mouth and offers a journalist to shut up for three years and stop investigating. and this is actually, to a certain extent, a threat that was immediately reinforced by another official source of the ministry of defense that will sue everyone who spreads this information about jackets through all mass media , that is, there are three buns, questions, comments. yes, look. well, first of all, we are with you in principle . winter or summer jackets can only be examined accordingly , but based on that, my colleague from the anti-corruption council, journalist tetyana nikolayenko, she clearly showed and the photo is visible . there in the photo, she already

published the technical conditions according to which these jackets felt it is clearly visible there that this jacket is not summer, that is, they are most likely winter, that is, here the question is relatively speaking. as for me, in principle , it is clear, and then we already have what concerns the deputies, what concerns the nephews and the like, that is enough , you know it is an unpleasant situation. it is reputable and i can tell you that it will not end even if now they will clearly say who is supplying and how it is like you . well, it will definitely not end with a simple simple scandal of a criminal case. i think that we will get one more deputy who will leave the faction, because we see that the president is taking a rather harsh stance towards those members of the faction who, no, no , do not show themselves well enough in certain issues, well, here too. this fact is confirmed and that will be all.

it is well proven that what you are saying now is that there was cooperation there with boguslaev , there are some of their photos and the like, this is usually a matter for the security service of ukraine , but i can say how it is now, because you know that we are quite active now uh, we're following the way in which all these procurements and the like take place through transparent er, but to date, in fact, all the companies that are submitted, they are the ones that win er, they are related to the procurements of the ministry of defense, they are about and, accordingly, the inspection, now the question is whether such an inspection took place for each campaign in which he purchased which one purchased here are these jackets, again, this question, i think , will already be within the framework of a criminal case , but i will give you an example, we used to check companies and do you remember the scandal when was with eggs, we raised those companies according to which hm with him with them contracts were renewed in february seems to be months in february yes in

february of this year for the supply of additional agreements were made in accordance with these additional agreements on food products with all companies of validity was carried out well according to our information, they are being dragged to security , i checked with the current companies , old and new, with all those with whom the relevant purchases of the security services are made, i also checked with them, and here is i was with the company pokurtkam questions by the way you see they said i honestly didn’t even pay attention to it yet, my colleagues and i are quite active in understanding the cut in our chat quite active correspondence a lot of various interesting information eh about the couple you know i honestly hmm

well, there are two options, or the minister tried to show in this way that he is sure that he is right, and in fact it can be said that the ministry did everything right and conducted all procurement operations, everything was done properly, this is the first, the second, how was the payment made? you know, i can honestly say that i would not like to comment. well, why? because all this must be confirmed by the relevant documents , well, that is, we live in a legal field. there is a product , there is a delivery , there is a duty . to the ministry of defense and it is precisely in this context that we need to look and talk about the fact that someone bought there for some other form of payment or something else, qualitatively speaking, generally refrained from this because this practice is not good enough. it is true, what or could it be with some kind of apology, they say well

it was extraordinary. there were times when it was necessary to make a sudden decision to solve the second er situation - this is the time when this payment was made if we understand that this is the time of the period of a full-scale invasion and er it was necessary to urgently sew a large batch of jackets and there was a need for some maybe the funds are, but, well, there must be an appropriate justification for this, there must be an appropriate explanation for this, now for a moment , let's understand that textile products are not food products, so clothes can't be, well, conditionally speaking, you ordered today, we'll take them to the processes, today you say that you need 100,000 jackets there, for example, yes, or half a million, we call any manufacturer and say you can sew them for us in a week, in two or in a month, they will say no, no we will be able to, we need to buy the material, we need it, we need an antenna that is, it will take about four months if they are going

to contract the court there and the like. oh, i think that there is still this component somewhere. no one canceled the jackets, well, that is, such a large order in the 22nd year, in fact, it was difficult to make it quite quickly, but as for me , well, that is, no one was ready in advance, uh, well, to make a warehouse of jackets there for tens of thousands of dollars, to run away until they are purchased, that's why here is there is also this situation , which i believe also needs to be dealt with. the question is about turkish companies. well, it seems to me that some of the activists and some of the anti-corruptionists are already writing, so let's find out what the situation is with turkish companies, who, where, how delivered, who bought, who bought from whom in order to understand. it seems to me that this will all come to an end. hmm, not even like that

. it seems to me that we have passed a certain stage in this case. now this case is primarily of a more political nature. well, in any case , it should pass already in the context of criminal proceedings, it was checked by law enforcement officers, that's all that was possible, conditionally speaking, plus or minus, well, in addition, it is also necessary to confirm technically that these are winter or summer jackets , it is still possible, this option must be done, and i also see that in in principle, this is one of those steps directed specifically at the minister or against the minister of defense, because we see that for almost a year, even before the egg scandal, the question has been raised about whether he needs to be replaced, well , the minister is not in his place, i think that this scandal in any case , they will use it, continue to work hard, search for and try

to change it as much as possible, and bring this issue up for consideration in the parliament hennadiy crooked-necked member of the corruption council under the ministry of defense, chairman of the public council at the kmda and the people's deputy of ukraine of the eighth convocation or talked with us about the situation with jackets for the military and about the pair that the minister of defense decided to start varishkov stay with us later we will discuss stiffness in the joints and spine osteochondrosis gout radiculitis arthritis and arthrosis with all these problems you will

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the callsigns minka leprosy and jus were killed and appeared in social media video of how the pilots said goodbye to them, it turns out that this is an old tradition according to one of the versions. it seems to come from the time of the second world war, when pianos are burned in honor of fallen pilots. svitova , who was famous for his piano playing, died in battle and actually the members of the squadrons honored his memory by burning this piano, so she said goodbye to the ukrainian pilots in the same way and wrote their callsigns on the piano

and they also wrote the numbers of the planes and played a farewell tune, of course well, then they poured water on this piano and set it on fire, why did these pilots die, why did this plane wreck happen ? is it a coincidence or is it actually planned ? general of ukraine, deputy chief of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine in 2006-2010 mr. ihor, we congratulate you, i congratulate you actually about the pilots, specifically about the pilot with the call sign jus , they say that he died extremely the pilot is an experienced person who took care of the fact that ukraine eventually received the f-16, and it is a pity, in any case, this is a man, it is our

military, our pilots, and it is a pity that a tragedy happened before that. and any explanations. in my opinion, there is a misunderstanding, why and how it happened, we see that according to the events, and this is very important, according to the events taking place in our state , it is connected with such a mouth, a catastrophe, and a structure that is not connected with well, in this case, with by the ministry of defense and the armed forces of ukraine, that is, the state bureau of investigation, as it should be in a democratic country. i am referring to the previous investigation, when i actually died, the leadership of the ministry of internal affairs, and i think that an investigation of this kind

is from the attention of the whole society, not only the leadership of the weapons the ministry of defense will be conducted in a professional manner and we will find out these reasons . in general, not even during the war, this is a dangerous profession with corresponding risks, i don’t want to say already in the conditions of war or according to statistics in ukraine without soviet times , a division of e-e pilots was killed in a year, but you can present three sticks of valuable such were there losses in full or that means this

says that despite the very strict requirements for the preparation of e-e everything related to flights, the execution of these flights, and the preparation that takes place both on the ground and then takes place when the plane and the pilot rises in the air is of this kind the provision of which from the very beginning from the first time when a cadet tries to become a pilot it teaches him in this what is included if in the blood and in the action of every pilot despite all this what happens happens because for wings in the air you have to pay a very high price well, after all, there are statistics of losses, for example, f16 during the iraqi company. it seems that for the second time, half of the planes were

lost there. it was because of some incidents that were related to technical malfunctions or pilot errors. unfortunately, that's the way it is. i want to confirm your words here and say that this does not apply exclusively to aviation, the patches of military aviation in our country, this is the state of the world and returning 65 to that because uh, there is such an approach, this device is meant to be a system, this plane is in the air with a pilot, this is uh- it is most dangerous for me, since i was a deputy for combat training in two types of armed forces, i taught myself and subordinates about the fact that the error is not on the ground, it is not an error in the air, because

there is very little time to correct an error in the air and clearly imagine when a professional person from the very beginning takes such approaches in order to become a pilot, he must understand that such an approach must become the law of his life. time and without e-e, drink from this situation alive and well, yuriy hnat, the spokesman of the air force of ukraine, said that andriy pishchikov, who with the call sign jus, was not just a pilot. he was a young officer of the mega-talent competition. the communicator was a russian reformer in the aviation of the air force, a participant in many projects of e-e mare in the f-16 in the sky of ukraine , met with american government officials , maintained contact with californian pilots, was the main stream of an advocacy group that promoted the decision to supply social modern fighters to the air

force as much as needed time to prepare such a pilot of such a class, well, in addition to being such a pilot, let him be. this is such an activist of the aviation of the ukrainian military . look, there is such a gradation in class training in fighter pilots, for example, that is, the third, second, first master, as well as a sniper pilot, and a pilot of this level is not only 5 of them. we used to have a light-hearted approach to training of this level and then supporting a pilot, so any state spends to prepare a pilot of this level is as much as casting him from gold and it will cost so much, you understand, pilots who are not just a master, some sniper, to prepare him , so much money is spent on the last one

, i wonder, we have literally minutes left two on yours they said there are the right forces, they say there is a need for 128 because they announced f16 planes in order to radically change the situation on the battlefield, and s- added by the way p hnat that not only f16 is needed in order to have a dominant position in the air, nevertheless they say that it will still take years, what can we do here, what can we do here, what can our hopes be , the first hope is connected, we must fight for that and for ourselves, so that they appear at least at the end of this year, the first planes and options, the chance is as follows there is but it is necessary to work a lot on this but to be it is really necessary to change the situation, this number is actually three brigades, you will not recruit them at once with all your efforts, and therefore it will be a gradual effect on aviation regarding the aviation

cover of the actions of our troops, the provision of aviation e-e only the cover of the strike, that is, the function of aviation in this modern war and we we will fight for this. thank you, mr. ihor ihor romanenko , the founder of the charity fund, in particular, the sky of ukraine, general and deputy chief of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine in 2006-2010, he was with us, the end of our the family is waiting for us in the next hour in our studio in hadyukiny, but now i remind you that traditionally at 9:00 all ukrainians all of ukraine remembers those ukrainians whose lives were cut short by russian aggression and actually remembering them , join our gathering so that the number of ukrainians who died because of russia would be significant less remains less than a thousand hryvnias so that we have already collected a tenth of the amount we need 1 million 760,000 hryvnias qr-code you can see yours on your screens let's

remember the memory of ukrainians constructively by reducing the number of muscovites with our help - it can be real, dear friends, stay behind the press, let's observe a moment of silence in memory of ukrainian soldiers and peaceful citizens of ukraine who died in the war