[000:00:00;00] press, geopolitical interests, that is, at this moment, their position converged and this was reflected in the expanded brics well, do you think that the chinese are such a one-man leader group, and india is there no people there? i think that china is in the moment when he proposed something that could be supported by others, it worked, so to speak. but as soon as china starts to promote some of its interests, which will not correspond to the interests of other countries , this, for example, there is a big difference in e-e trade in hydrocarbons yes

that is, saudi arabia, the united arab emirates and iran are exporters of oil and gas, and india and china are consumers , that is, as soon as some issues touch this sphere, it is clear that interests can be different and this applies to many other specific questions, as soon as the bricks policy will come out of the general declarations. do you have any logical explanation for some reason and the ring pin missed the business forum at the brics summit? no, i have no idea about this , i have not read any insider information that all the bells and whistles uh, first of all, he felt himself, uh, well, he was an order of magnitude higher than all the other uh leaders. well, like samarkand, yes , it was like that, and he allowed himself

to behave like that, especially since there were certain reasons for this there there was a scandal related to the fact that president mafoza personally came to or came to the airport to meet xi jinping and , for example, sent his deputy minister there to meet president modi , well, that is, it was very similar in the diplomatic context well, it's a clumsy action by the south african leadership, but it's her showed as if who is who in this association and it is possible that it is a rivalry with modi and all dvinkina is somehow nervous in general that this association is currently fighting for statuses and so on because india

as of today, it also claims a fairly high status in the international community. thank you, maksym maksym, a smart independent expert, a doctor of political science, we will get back to you literally in a few minutes, we will answer questions , we will uh yes, they will comment on the worst topics vitaliy portnikov, wait taras shevchenko resists his words on the chevrons of the defenders of his ideas in the hearts of millions of free people, his line in battle songs at the front and in the rear to fight back - win the formula of our victory august 26-27 , shevchenko is waiting for you in navy uniforms at the she.fest festival in support of the armed forces ukraine shevchenko resists and tychyny august 26-27 moryntsi cherkasy region alcohol-free event entrance

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destroy. we continue the saturday polyclub angelika sezonkav i was waiting for this moment to finally wash my bones in the literal sense, maybe evgeni prigozhina, after all, you and i were witnesses of all this very beginning just during our live broadcast of prigozhyn from he went to moscow with the wagnerites, and then he was publicly forgiven by putin, then they were in belarus, and two months passed, the riot was allegedly liquidated, after all, it was a staged liquidation, and who

is behind it ? your versions. i hear from many people how life is, they said, how , what, what was it, why was he killed all the time ? they do not try to think like putin, they think all the time that there is some handsome guy, what in principle no one calls him, let him be a diax from the point of view of putin, other fsb officers, or a game that he himself cannot be used as a duck to fulfill certain prices and goals the organization of such a putsch was very simple, as i have already said several times, it could be used excluded in order for putin to get the opportunity to unleash a hybrid war against poland and lithuania, this hybrid war may not happen

for one simple reason. because it is a tool in case the ukrainian offensive really achieves some significant results. if the ukrainian offensive achieves significant results and russia loses some serious territories in the east of southern ukraine , then there is a need to raise rates, i.e., to raise the rates - this is a hybrid war, but it is necessary to raise the stakes so that putin and lukashenko themselves avoid direct responsibility for the invasion of the territory of a nato member state, so that they can always say that in this situation they have no nothing to do with what happened, i already told about it , i will not repeat it now. since we do not see russia losing significant territories, we do not know how the offensive of the ukrainian armed forces will end. only if something really happens, because you should never think that

the success of the ukrainian armed forces in this offensive will not lead to a response from russia, it is simply not where it can be expected, that is, russia can don't punish ukraine because russia already punishes ukraine, it will punish those who supply weapons to ukraine, try to put them on the border of the third world war, here we are , and you think do you want to knock out the wagnerians of this language on your territory ? belarus so that suddenly we will hit you it is already real because now this is all a theory if we are serious considering the situation at the front if and because now it is really much more important for putin to get a nigger because this is a very serious instrument of influence in the west on the west, these are american bases, these are also uranium deposits, which the french need for this complete

control over the sahal region, and in this way , russia will simply cut africa in half, so i think that now putin may not be very interested in this , but for that at the moment, it is still obvious that it was the number one task to be safe in case something happened at the front, you remember when pockets said that putin told during the laying of beautiful things and at the front, how strange the situation will sound a very good one. that is, we are doing it, and maybe we will not need it very much, but the question arises . and what is prigozhyn in this situation, was it possible to make such a story without the participation of the treats and his commanders. no, it was not possible, they were all in the topic, but what is done as as a rule, any proper special service, if it conducts such an operation, it removes witnesses, all the more so for putin, it is beneficial for many reasons, the first reason is that he removes witnesses of this staging of a mutiny, witnesses

who can tell us at some point we entered the territory of poland not because we wanted it ourselves, but because we agreed on it with the russian political leadership , no one will enter like this now . will putin single-handedly control the wagnerians? the main directorate of intelligence of the general staff will control the wagnerians . they are still hanging around. well, we don’t know him, it could also be all a cartoon, i’m telling you how it is, but there is a certain group of people who know for sure that it is putin, and in the event of some unknown events, they can they can say they can't say but they hold a serious political tool in their hands when some foreigner appears on the screens and says yes, we entered the territory of poland , we carried out some sort of raid there already, but it 's not our decision, we agreed to it well, putin was there six months ago well then the whole game is not interesting, why do we need these people

, we need every person who can say this to not exist so we have a list like in this novel by agatha christie about uh nine , how many were there, these 10 niggers can you remember 10 well, we are all just 10, here we would put these 10 players on a plane and launch a rocket without ceremony without ceremony , then we can even say that this is revenge of the ministry of defense, we do not control anything , as ilya says, this is also a wonderful story from the privates the wagnerites came out and told about it, he said he thinks that it was a real march of justice in that the focus of such things is that the rank and file of the wagnerites and even the commanders among the middle ranks are not informed about any special agreements with people of putin's level well, utkin may know about it, and prigozhin's closest employees

, who are responsible for his safety, may know about it, and not everyone who was on this plane knew about it, so you know 3-4 people, because otherwise the staging will not be the main essence of any what kind of special operation of any special service is again the right special service when two or three people from each of the parties are involved in the very option, that is, from the side of wagner - this is a beauty. who else is on this plane from putin's side? bortnikov e-e patrushev is possible and lukashenko is all well, it means that the heads of the special services know about it, that it is his extortion, but it is like this. these are not the people who directly negotiated about it. you do not agree that , after all, putin does not work very well before this. i agree with president biden, uh, between ponomaryov and by biden, i choose biden but i have every right to my opinion and even to

insider information, let's not forget that ilya can have more discussion of information than i am simply solving the problem of the gel reporting some information that he can one way or another to have it is one story, another story, what happens next with the murder of the prepared person, firstly, it is a great signal for the elite, in principle, it is the right signal, because you understand, a totalitarian regime can exist safely only when subordinates in this regime live in justice. here, i recently read an analysis devoted to how in russia regimes changed after military defeats , these are well-known stories, the crimean war, the first world war, there was no obvious defeat , the fatigue of society from the war was very serious, by the way, in the first world war

russia could win if they fought a little more and got everything in the world . well, people were already tired and it was absolutely obvious. there are other such cases . experienced several such real political earthquakes, you remember that before the revolution of this year in the 17th year there was a revolution of the fifth . that is, it was already such a government that was shaken . now let's look at another regime, the stalinist state, which completely intimidated and all by the way, after the assassination of kirov, which can be compared with the liquidation of prigozhin, that's why you are again, skira, you were made an icon, that's why everyone now, well, not everyone. i think that many people have already forgotten who kirov is, but to people who lived in soviet times, it seemed that he was a powerful political figure, a favorite of the party, a competitor of stalin, whoever, in fact

, he was a man who was even a member of the politburo party, even his seeds were invited to moscow by the politburo. he very rarely went to moscow, sat there in leningrad and ensured the loyalty of the leningrad communists, that is, he was a person. by the way, prigozhin was also from the same city, well, i have a manager because he was not from leningrad, but politically he was with leningrad in principle , there was no sense in him, there were no competitors, he was not for anyone, he was just in serves steel in the province and had the position of a member before the road for one simple reason . because the predecessor in the position of this leader , they of the players' party of the organization hryhoriy zinovov, an associate of levin, was a member of the flights of weapons were well, just another politician of another if on the field the bureau will not even go into all these details of party history, because i am tired of party history already during the years of soviet power, it was still possible to forget everything about it. but after the 34th year, all lenin's associates were simply sent

so to speak, spending, as they liked to say to zin in kamen in bukhara for a year, it was all a member of precarpathia, the highest leadership of the country . then the 37th year began, then stalin began to do such things, which are even hard to imagine, even for a totalitarian regime, he shot relatives in his closest associates, laser kaganovich, we are a scientist in the field of the bureau, it is to dig into the secretary of the central committee, he heads the ukrainian car killer , one brother was imprisoned, the other ended in suicide, the guests were shot simply with a duk , to intimidate the wives of mikhail kalidin , the head of the soviet state, the wife of vyacheslav molotov formally sat in the camp of the soviet ranks and the minister of foreign affairs sat in camp a on stas mykhaylov was afraid that his family would be arrested , everyone who was close to stalin had

some kind of hostages in the holang the story of june 22, 1941. when stalin suffered the greatest loss , before that there was the finnish war, he, you, too, lost it, nothing, no one. he didn't even notice, everyone just said that he won it, and then there was the 41st year , much more, more terrible day, the german army enters the territory of the soviet union, marches through this territory of the soviet union , i do not meet any resistance , hundreds of thousands of people are captured, up to a million, further on , in principle, an experienced politician simply flees to the dacha and waits for a coup because he knows that if it was him, he was a minister and so without the leader's drift , he would have already shot him, because this is the destruction of everything, his whole concept of friendship with hitler led to the fact that the state can simply disappear, there were all chances they were

already near moscow in a few weeks and literally nothing is happening, everyone, his leadership is so afraid of him that even at this moment he does not speak even in front of people, he is just scared. well, they are scared more than he was scared before of course, and putin in principle, as a person of the same type, he has them all in terror. so, in principle, something can happen on the ukrainian front, we understand it all very well, this is not the end of history at all, what we are observing now, something can happen in the economy, he did not count on the life that he he should have been the master of ukraine 18 months ago and a year and a half ago, he promised them all this , he said that there would be a short-term special operation and then the west would have to accept everything and they should now live in

chocolate, they are now living instead of chocolate what are some other substances of the same color, they all smell unpleasant. they know all this. well, there is no need to think that these people are complete idiots , they are the people, so the people may not understand anything, but the people who surround putin, they perfectly understand that he has already lost, even if he keeps this the war with ukraine for years is not what they wanted to achieve well and then well will hold their hand well further that it is still a hopeless case but they should be afraid of it and this beautiful plane is a clear signal to them that whoever takes even half a step to the side because for them, it is not an imitation of anything , it is for a handsome man to make a statement against the government, he will be destroyed, what can be destroyed like that at all ?

they told the mediators that he shot his close friend and close associate lenin, we are cold-blooded for accusing the dpu of anti-soviet activities for the fact that such a thing is happening, he was a friend of kirov, he was involved in the assassination of kirov in because well, it doesn't matter what they were shot for, like these engineers, then for years he mentioned about buharchik at the meetings of the politburo , oh buharchik, my dear buharchik, he was so talented, but if buharchik was here, he would have told us, everyone knew that he gave the order to shoot them, they squeezed into their chairs more of this, my god, my god, putin is sitting and looking at the needle, he will speak, and he was such a talented person, you know, i knew him for many years , he did everything that i asked, oh pushylin , i know for sure, he is sitting on your neck, what a beauty you are in putin pushylin looks at putin with just frightened eyes and trembles because he understands that putin at any moment is simply in a bad mood or in a good mood

because it 's like hunting ducks. the monarch can clearly know that he can rule his state as long as he likes, that is, there is no alternative, the people love him because he is stupid, the elite is afraid, she is terrified, everything is done , if there is not enough, he will kill, and this is a turn because you understand before and what it was murder murder of enemies anna politkovska was an enemy of this regime because she wrote about his crimes boris nimtsov was an enemy of this regime he gave accurate assessments of putin's personality and a beauty it is difficult to call him an enemy his gang stood under the bakhmut for months they knocked out this place bitten it received what award well, even an honorable burial - there will be no honorable funeral and putin will not come to the funeral, this is also in

their understanding of honor, if they even know such a word. well, don't ask about honors. well, if putin, putin did not come to gorbachev, because who is gorbachev? the soviet union will not come to prigozhin, so it actually is. the families of all these enemies of the people were shot completely absolutely yes and for this just, everyone understood for sure when they were arrested that their women , you know, the women who were the first ladies of the kingdom , their children are raped, they will be sent to an orphanage. the soviet elite, the russian elite, i don't want to exist, that means they have to obey and that's all, there is absolutely no point

in losing the feeder and where where can you run now , first of all, this avianov or whatever his surname is from the main office will find you and simply destroy you with a new eye, it has already happened many mysterious deaths of people who tried to escape from putin, secondly, no one in the west is waiting for these people now, they are war criminals and it is very difficult to escape if you were a member of the security council of the russian federation, thirdly, i think that they value their social role so much, they will refuse it, it's not like a drug, listen, are you there, the chairman of the state duma or a minister in russia, where will you run, er, can you do this, if you've already agreed to participate in all this , you understand, then you won't be able to run away anywhere , and it's again this is a sign of a totalitarian authoritarian regime. look, we have repeatedly seen how the authorities in ukraine were formed after 2019. they said that they wanted this person, that person

, they don't want to be a minister, but they don't want to work for the civil service, and someone just bought a plane ticket and just left from the country in order not to meet with the team that prepares a complex government. everyone said how can this be. well, it can be in a normal democratic country. someone wants to work in the government and someone does not want to work in the government, and there are no consequences for this, especially not want well, it seems to me that those who understand that taking bribes they will not be able to arrange like this may be another problem may be the problem that people simply believe that the environment is so incompetent that nothing can be done with angry eyes and says, find this person, punish this person. he is simply looking for another candidate that is optimal for him, with whom he can work there. in principle , any power works, but putin does not know that i will be with you the day after tomorrow, so if you are already in this system, you are in it. we are lucky

not to be born in russia unequivocally a p vitaliy but it turns out that putin is getting out of this situation is out sorry for the tautology strong and not weak putin is just building a totalitarian regime it is being done absolutely right from the point of view from the point of view of preserving their power, the only thing is that the satellite regime can also get ahead with its feet, because all these people understand the simple fact that they can no longer influence it in any way, that they are putting pressure on it is not that before they understood that they cannot put pressure on it , now they see that in general, any influence on him, uh, any attempts at alternative solutions, they are punished, which means that if you want to protect yourself from putin, you can only blow it up or shoot him. well, i want to remind you that, in principle, this is also absolutely the quality of any totalitarian regimes is normal, as you remember, people who worked in the operation of nazi germany

were loyal officials or soldiers for many years , when they realized that germany would suffer a real defeat, they first tried to talk to hitler's entourage, hitler himself made sure that there were no talks. it can't be that people those who try to conduct such talks are shot as traitors. well, people want , say, to save lives or save the country. and different people have different intentions and what to do in in this situation, you can only kill hitler , there is no other way out, all other ways out are blocked, that is, the democratic regime provides, if you want, the mechanism of popular influence, elections, voters can make mistakes , as we know from our own experience , suicidal decisions, but they still decide how the country will develop and they can only ask themselves when it all falls on their heads for one reason or another , in an authoritarian regime there is such a mechanism as elite consultation, the voters no longer exist, everyone

considers these people to be complete idiots, they can just to organize pseudo-elections that they came there and voted for those they were told, but there are conversations going on in the elite itself. you can come to the first person with another colleague to talk and argue. the first person hears your arguments and, in principle, the whole meaning of this first person. judges the interests of different plans, there is nothing like that in a totalitarian understanding, but he woke up without standing on his feet and decided to shoot someone there or go somewhere there to fight, everything if we think that he made a wrong decision, what can we do but strangle him he means, in principle , he is doing everything right, but it is risky because he brought the situation to such a state when all the consultations are over, when he can get these people only by the power of terror, but the way out of terror is to shoot them in the back of the head. we are all waiting for someone to do it, it may never happen

because they may be scared so that they will never do this. you can simply not invite doctors to him like to stalin who was just lying there and no one knew whether it was necessary to invite these doctors and maybe no one wanted to invite them because they believed that if if you don't invite doctors, then well, he won't make claims because he doesn't like doctors. and if you invite doctors , god forbid, they'll cure him, there's no need for it, so let it go as it goes, he'll die and it's fine. they started sharing power when he was still you're already standing up stalin well, if you were sloppy, they were already distributing the position there, it seems that if there was a person who killed putin, because he would gather the whole world and money and without any guarantees of security and not give a bunch of privileges, if only for that he could want to kill putin, what save the system, the next president of the russian federation can be a person much more determined than putin. when lukashenko says that putin is a cautious person, he is right because it was possible to make many radical decisions that were later ignored

, so that no one only nuclear weapons , radical weapons, radical mass mobilization of citizens a radical decision putin is afraid of all this because then he lives in the world of his ratings and there may be a person who does not care about ratings, this is also she may appear we don't know that means this a fork in the road, one way - this is the new president of russia who understands that it is necessary to at least stop and look at the situation , if not to settle it, and then at least preserve the status quo, well, it means that you will talk with ukraine about the transfer of its territory, well , at least with the measure of that it is necessary to stop hostilities or there may be a person who will believe that on the contrary it is necessary to go much more decisively well, yes, nuclear weapons are more bad than intensive missile attacks , anything we do not know the level of diathesm of putin's heir, nevertheless, do not forget that putin has been in this position for 20 or three years, and this will be

a person who may simply not be aware of the consequences of being the president