[000:00:00;00] maybe landing forces for aviation and uh, you don't need to forget that they also study very hard, uh, the mobilization resource in the district ones is bigger, from what i see, they can afford to wage war calmly in such economic conditions for another five years on those internal reserves, they did not yet have a full-scale mobilization, and the resource that they attracted, and two or three more such federations, they can conditionally afford without critical consequences, where the economies of some kind can now see the centers of power or authority, and which could to compete with the centers and break up the strong ones, well, again, you can’t see there are, let’s say, the seeds. yes, there are painful weak points that , of course, in the long term , it is worth hitting, and again, my personal impression is that

the conditional measure probably stopped at such strategies to exhaust the russian federation by force ukraine by supplying the minimum necessary amount of weapons that allows us to hold back, but not giving enough of it so that we can change the situation sharply , we will see if we have enough for this strategy in any case we have uh, if the eu and its interests and own plans, that's all. at this stage, they coincide, and we thank you for

the help that we have. without it, we definitely would not have survived in such a state . we continue the series of interviews for the 32nd anniversary of ukrainian independence today on the espresso channel azov fighter of the third separate assault brigade of the armed forces of ukraine ruslan romanov we congratulate you mr. ruslan well i will say that your call sign is a bank with this i wanted to start why punk is some kind musical stories, well, in order to somehow start with some kind of light topic, well, it started with the fact that, in principle, i was a banker in my own right, two historical musical songs. well , i was educated as a hairdresser, a letter, respectively. when i arrived to the azov battalion, they asked me if i had everything he told me that he didn't ask what he was doing. well, i told him as ivan said. well, everything will be fine, that's without question. well, almost nothing has changed. you come from krasnodon, this is a town in the luhansk region, which was known

throughout the soviet union for the novel "krasnaya moloda" guards i apologize, do you remember your studies at school, when did you get a ukrainian identification card, after all, the young guards of krasnodon were, after all, the vanguard unit of the soviet soviet communist youth, well, when i was studying, we had the propaganda of the young guard, we didn't have it at school but about ukraine, in principle, i began to learn precisely from the fifth grade from the lessons of the ukrainian language and literature , it was called our native language and native literature, the teacher herself was from the western part of ukraine, she spoke ukrainian and the cabinet was, you know, such an answer in the ukrainian style, she had such a small old kobzar, and there were two cases when drunk miners beat her for speaking ukrainian, she was a bender and

all the rest, and in principle, my worldview changed when, well, somewhere 15 years ago, when i think of a group of betrayals, there was a textbook of the upa, then everything changed radically for me, the ukrainian rebel army, look here, about donbas , i still wanted to ask. already deceased grandmother and grandfather in the city of sloviansk in donetsk region, well, it's not far from krasnodon let's just say that i remember that time well, i followed from the very morning the deputies gathered for the parliament they have to vote for independence some fourth day after the participation today everything should be decided obviously there were people like me there in slovyansk, there were very few people who were hurt by it, who were worried about it, who were in the context of the events , now 32 years have passed for how much is the holiday of ukrainian independence, who then we thought

that it just fell from the sky for how much now we have rethought it and after nine years of war in donbas and after a year and a half of the full-scale invasion of russian ukraine. well, how can i say it? you know this. i think it's a bit of a difficult question, well, for me personally, because i, well, how did i experience ukrainization? well, in principle, there ukraine, in principle, everything that is connected simply with the word ukraine, i felt like i was in a fistfight, there was a case when i was riding a trolleybus, i also attached a small coat of arms to my jacket here, eh, and can you imagine a trolleybus , well, it's not a small bus, so evening three the drunks saw from the other end that i have a trident. well, and accordingly

, the conflict started, that's how it was in principle there , if now they wear a vyshyvanka here and they don't even know the genetic code that is painted there, then they really killed for an vyshyvanka in 14 year after the revolution of dignity, you found yourself in the ranks of azov, yes, then still a battalion of the azov battalion, tell us about it, what was the main style of going to war then, in principle, in a relatively peaceful country at that time, there was only one a, as in principle, during a full-scale invasion why did i leave the second time voluntarily the first time voluntarily due to the fact that i was kicked out of my home illegally, i would even say violently that's why i had an incentive and priority was volodymyr to vacate the home in accordance with each year in general during the ato

i began to communicate more and more with people to learn what ukraine is, to learn the history of the native land and, in principle, in general, what our ethnicity is, and so on, and because of that understanding what we stand for, what i personally stand for. just vacate the house and, in principle, drive all this to you there, you are their steppe swamps well, if you are 14 and you were young enough then, still a boy, there was no fight back then, take a weapon and go to an open battle, but no , you know, i just maybe then i didn't realize what it was. well, i see movies there, and accordingly, but movies are movies, as practice has shown, there are two realities when you

are really at war . it's also a plus of what i chose battalion well, when i moved to mariupol , i moved to mariupol in the 12th year just in time for the revolution of dignity, so i got to know the soccer movement. these were the ultras of mariupol football, so because back then, when there was still a battalion, you had to have two people say that he is a really normal person, that we accept him to us so that, well, without that, at that time, they still wouldn't have accepted him. and at that time i'm right i was in kamianets-podilskyi and i was recruited by a military police . what are you doing anyway? where are you just so and so? i don't know what to do like what and where what's going on how to sew there or whether to fight or not to fight

? i know how to get a machine gun in your hands. how to hold it. how is it actually like that? well, like, really, how is it, and come, like, come to us now , i’ll explain everything to you here very quickly. well, well , i went, well, i’m just curious. personally, i like a hairdresser-stylist. what kind of person holds a comb and scissors in his hands first, and then takes them in the hands of aka, what are the first emotions after that? well, the first weapon i had was the rpk. well, you know, it's very interesting. well, you're still 21 there, 22 years old. you're still like that at events. wow, the blood is boiling there, plus , with your brothers, everyone there tells you so and so and so. and you are somehow on the same wave, you are supporting each other. you just have an understanding that they will really cover your back . well, because of this, you know such family communication and such mutual relations, such

brotherly, real cossack, opivsky , well, there was no fear, fear is already coming after the battle, that is, during the battle, well, you are nervous, you think, but personally, everything came to me already after the event . that is, you are sitting there smoking, i realize that how did i survive? well, i read your interview, you say about what azov - this ukrainian brotherhood and azov, ukrainian justice, why exactly justice, well, look again, now i would like to place it a little. here is the azov brigade - this is an ngo. there is a third separate assault brigade - this is the armed forces of ukraine. this is the national guard. and accordingly, i am in the third separate assault brigade, he is currently wounded. so now let's talk about the wounding. after all, i am talking about this brotherhood and

cossack cossack justice, what is so interesting? well, you know, i have been asked this question many times . i don't even know how to answer it. well, the correct answer is simply that why am i asking? because it is about justice in our society now, well, there are questions and people really ask for fair courts, this is one of the first requests of society, how is it resolved at the level of a military unit? well, first, at least we will start the fact that people treat each other accordingly, that is, any other units in them, there is a different mess, i was in them, too, and in the ngu and in the armed forces, i was in the marines. that is, well, the other conitet is the army, so that is, well, no, i can’t be there but the army of the entire soviet union gives me a specific yes, accordingly, now there is already a change , when there was, that is completely different. and so to say that we are some kind of justice. i think that we are simply fulfilling our duty, hysterical, and

because what else from the battalion called that for me it was taken from the best to say or they didn't put it together like that, and something came out for the events of that time, and when there was still ato . you perceive it differently, that is, it is like rehabilitation. and with regard to justice, well, you understand, such a word can be perceived as simply not quite adequate, somehow radically, what they have spoken for us for 9 years is wonderful. you know that we are fascists there the nationalists there are some kind of incomprehensible without a head, well, in short, there was a lot there, and that's why i wouldn't say that. well, i wouldn't say that it's justice. it's just some kind of call. i don't know. maybe it's hysterical and maybe some kind of

reincarnation of souls there and cossacks there. the same. as the characters were. this is my subjective opinion. maybe we are doing the same thing that we did then, too, the goat will fall by itself if you look at 10 worth of history, well, actually. and in one azov and in another appeal, friend, the bank goes, for example, yes, yes, the second, everything is because of the second, what does it give, it gives some kind of additional brotherhood, some kind of yes, no, it’s just historically, such an application is the first, and the second . well , when a friend turns to you. there is something else there, comrade, is there something else there, sir? and when it is a friend, it is already more . such equal relations between people already have an equal dialogue. there is no one who is higher there

, who is lower. i told you briefly there, well, they look at that, yes, there is no such thing, that’s why, and the second is that there is this division into officers and soldiers , well, accordingly, now it exists. i mean, well, there are questions in some units of the armed forces. and a soldier is half a man, let's say he is. well, it really is that there are officer positions and not necessarily. he has to be an officer, i have an intensification position, and a person can simply turn sharply into another non-human and behave accordingly very rudely in relation to his fellows subordinates as they call them there, brotherhood is already another word, but brothers there, friend, that is, it is already going as a family, you understand , that is, on which line are you communicating, that is, another one has already left and already it just begins

, you understand the word in order to understand it simply, it is necessary there to be there to talk because well , i can't explain it to you in any other way. you understand, i can give you a bunch of examples, but to understand this, you have to be there , you have to feel it, tell me about your injury , it happened at the end of last spring of the year in zaporizhzhia this is my my native my little motherland what was it you are now from here we what was that aspiration what was that task well, in general i was still agreeable at that time accordingly i don't have an officer's rank the rank of me the senior soldier, but that's what happened. well, someone has to lead, and accordingly, those who came first, who had some experience, were appointed according to their positions, as it was, because at that time there was still chaos, there was no confusion, and who

needed those positions or titles, they were assigned to him. on such and you do everything you do and put people in the position accordingly before that i had to personally come there to look at those positions to understand what to do there, how to get people there, plans for an offensive, a retreat, and then a road accident , that is, a year of nesting and after that to come back, already develop this plan to collect the consent of the people, there are already with them to conduct this operation, i ran into a hyundai terracania in front of a tank. well, i understand that there were two of them because one worked, the other was lying around. you were injured in the leg , jaw, and underwent rehabilitation for a long time. tell me where and how it was possible abroad. i read your interview that you don't trust

foreign doctors, only ukrainian ones, why? than there because the wounds that they have now are different from those that were there in other soldiers. but in principle it is not such a wound as that. people there would have received it somewhere in civilian life. it is specific , it necessarily has its consequences. well, and accordingly, why should i go abroad if i can do it here at home, yes, because going abroad again is, well , flying there, moving is additional stress, it is not clear what will happen next there, how to live there , what to live for, well, in short, all these moments if the nuances, in principle, they have a very strong effect on your condition, when you are injured, you want to rest there somehow. yes, so that it hurts less. there is nothing to think about. well, accordingly, if your condition is more or less normal there, my condition was such that i was simply overwhelmed. that's what they assumed

the boys there thought that i would soon leave, and then i woke up there and started to talk a little bit by bit, the face is exactly like the mummy wrapped in that water , maybe we thought that was all. some kind of grease, what was there, the hands were black with broken fingers here i have a fracture below the knee to this finger and here i don't have a joint here, there is a metal structure of what, instead of a joint, does not work there that is, you have become a real cyborg now, and the jaw in the same way, they will sew the metal on both sides, well, let’s say conventionally, as a conductor, you know, you can throw a wire there in the plane, now the bell will always be there, even here, now i’m just , yes, you’re passing somewhere, it’s writing while it’s happening , your rehabilitation is going on, you’re actively engaged in the patronage service, is it called support azov or you just communicate with them, look, there is a patronage

for the service of the angel of azov, she takes care of the azov ngu and the third separate storm brigade of the armed forces of ukraine is azov-1 , this is a charity fund of the azov ngu and there is a support zone to which i am accordingly the third charity fund receives an assault brigade. i came to support. it is very interesting. i just came from rehabilitation to be on two crutches. i met an acquaintance. he says what are you doing . i listen to him. percentage of provision if well, it's nothing from the start here well, as always, for example, and then i was called thanks to volunteers and the price is there and now but i know what to do let's support the money, it's like that well, now i'm explaining it well, well, that's it, little by little

somehow it has become so popular that it is translated from english as support, so what is this support and who exactly do you support, uh, he himself supported the third separate assault brigade exclusively of the armed forces of ukraine because , again, there are not many of us there, and there are not even twenty. that is, there are 10 - 12, this is everyone who is physically there, well, sometimes it is very difficult to close even the brigade, because, again, it is necessary to close the cars and any mtz there - it is something to move on, how to move, to refuel, how to move to repair drones are also necessary and the bottom why fly uniforms helmets armor food well that is, the complete closure of the frontline service, that is, such a reliable rear, but because of the fact that, well, we are few, we cannot always close all problems

, all requests, and on time, and it would be very it would be desirable if people just typed saportazol in google or there is a third separate storm brigade, it will be the first to take off immediately and they would know what it is. that is, we have everything written there, there are sites made there, everything is very accessible, just so as not to talk about it much, because now, well, i i think that i think so, again, my subjective opinion that everyone knows what it is to help the army, what to contribute, it's not there, some kind of heavenly mana, it is. well, it should be, just by default. well, because if you don't broadcast your army, you will dance or what if well, many people have forgotten that it was in that year, i was in irpin, i know about it perfectly , i remember it. yours would be a lot for people to donate to

support azov and this money went to support the third separate assault brigade, the commander of which is andrii biletskyi, a former people's deputy of ukraine , how do you have a personal relationship with andrii biletskyi ? i was there since the 14th year, well, look, everything is very simple, what he created, starting with the patriot of ukraine, and what this is the only movement that created a professional army now. well, i think here without comments. you yourself understand how to do such titanic work and not die like others there are some volunteer formations that were yes, but on the contrary, it only grows to multiply , well, i think that it simply deserves respect, well , according to me, it is like that because he is a commander - he is a leader and we follow him because you yourself see that there is progress, yes. and other people should have honor and respect, in principle , not only for andriy evgeniyovych in general, but

for all those who are part of the third separate assault brigade to the relevant services , there is another delicate and difficult issue - this is the return the army of captives is known to have been more than 600 since the days of mariupol and azovstalia, now you correct me, azov citizens are still in russian captivity in various places and on the territory of the temporarily occupied donbass and on the territory of the russian federation. how do you see the return of these people, what should we do there are two positions, one position is that this is a very delicate issue and it should be solved in a delicate way, not without giving wide publicity, the second position is that it is necessary to talk about it, constantly remind, it is possible to hold some public actions. then the question the return of captives will be decided more quickly, how to act. well, you know, there is also a website of family defenders on the internet. well, i think

it is better to contact them because, again , according to the situation that existed even since that year , they are constantly changing because that we do not forget that after all the enemy is playing dishonestly and there is no telling whether it is russia there or the russian federation. well, i personally do not want to, cannot and will not, because i also have comrades in captivity who i know from the battalion there was a regiment there azov, which i attended even when there was ato that's why, for me, it's under. i apologize if it has to be said there, it's not necessary on the air, well, for me, it's real during and i don't respect them from mine at all, because they don't follow any rules at all, well, not at all, it's a very painful topic and it's better turn to the families of the defenders of azovstal and communicate with them accordingly, it is necessary not to spread the word that you fought in the zaporizhzhia direction, there are now brutal

fierce battles and progress is certainly taking place , but not at such a pace as ukrainian society would probably like to the commanders of the ukrainian military, a lot of information is now appearing in the western media about the fact that, well, the counteroffensive has slowed down, let's continue to negotiate or incline ukraine to victory, what do you as a military officer assess from a military point of view what is happening in the south of ukraine in the east of ukraine about the prospects of this offensive and what is it that we can count on in the coming months, you know about ukrainian society, especially its civilian population , even yesterday there was a call from there.

of a large-scale invasion from the first days, i will not call it another one, it is not important . he reported that one of our group was killed again and seriously wounded again. there is some kind of war, yes, like the ato, it’s just a struggle for a place under the sun, that is, for the existence, in principle, of the ukrainian nation, not of the people of the nation , it’s different. and when people are waiting here, there, you know . it’s like in games. well, it really pisses me off, now i ’m even explaining why what happened with kherson there's watermelons together - let's eat and then a car accident. it's simple. well, both for me personally and for the boys, well, it's unpleasant to hear about drinking a glass somewhere in a bar , damn it, the boys have advanced there, wow , class, they spent this money, it's better to pay it off

, go there yourself well, i mean, you understand me so that you understand, while i went to pass the vk, i had a cracked bolt of the construction, i had to pass the fork because well, i really already have biscreds there, i felt so bad, i saw how they live here in kyiv, what is happening here, the seas, some more vacations, s- motorcycles that are buzzing like this tonight i didn't sleep, but really, i didn't sleep all night, and i blew it because of them. what do you think? after all that , if they find out over there at the front what is really happening here, they will have the motivation to go on. well, i think that they will have the motivation to push on, you know, and let them go. i apologize because, again, there was such a very interesting incident, uh, the day before yesterday, i was riding the subway. i came in from a crutch with a backpack, well, accordingly

, i can't take it off because i have to hold on to something and hold on to the crutch, and a lot of people are on me started there slysh backpack take down the football right here, ukrainian, and there is some dude from whom, but you understand, but i'm not saying that everyone is like that, the majority ruslan and how to explain to civilian men in general now, and in civil society in general, that war is about what to fight for a long time surely everyone will go and everyone must be ready for this and there must also be a rotation that those people who have been on the front line from the very beginning they also need rest and they simply end they end how to explain a society that it actually comes down to the fact that the war is somewhere far away, that it is better to go to a restaurant and not transfer money there to the army, spend a normal time there in the early hours, there is alcohol, there are girls there, in principle, a full-fledged pre-war life , how to explain this to civilians who

are in deep well, how to explain for me there is a real word people , i can categorize only two directions, those who fight, those who help , well, the rest for me, no one does anything. well, i don't know what to call them, you understand, it's just me i will tell you honestly and frankly how when and how you can feel when you are sitting there it will be impossible where in ukraine is there and will it be there or did you go on vacation from ukraine now they are releasing me i don't know why again and knowing that there is a war going on there to watch i will buy a chevron for all this. i love the su. go ahead. zsu . you drive your own car. well, accordingly, the car is green with a tattoo. therefore, it is obvious that you are in a military uniform, or there is some kind of

protection. well, maybe a car without any. in saportazol without it, it’s just a green car with the inscription zsu, or something else , vasya. you hear, the podvintsin slept, you understand. but now i have a simple question for everyone, for civilians , that’s just for me. for example, what should i do in such and such a situation? well, what to do, the truth is, the first thing that comes to mind is that you yourself understand that just go out and stuff your face. and what will it change, they won't change anything, it won't change, the only thing that will change is that someone will film me or someone similar and say that they and during the time of ato, they are the same they are inadequate, they only come here to beat and they are generally like without a head, let's not let them here, they are fighting there themselves, we didn't send them there, even though he has a whore trident here and the glory of the zsu. i don't even know how to simply answer this question, i'm just saying that there are people who fight and there are people who help. well, then they don't do anything. i just wonder if