[000:00:00;00] ukrainians romanticize freedom, this is how it happened in our tradition. will, freedom, it's all like air, something you can't touch, but without it you can't breathe, and on the one hand, it's really like the classics, because it's not a zloty, if you compare all the gold against freedom, it's just a swamp but only now, when they try to subjugate us again, not metaphorically , but literally, when they try to seize or destroy. only now has the understanding come freedom has a price and its not moderate juice must be paid for

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hours in the company of his favorite presenters about culture during the war is ready to talk about the war or even presenters who have become many it seems possible that the weather will at least give us some optimism ms. natalka didenko is ready to tell us, as well as distinguished studio guests, we will have volodymyr hryshko today , if everything goes well, the events of the day in two hours , vasyl's big broadcast, winter, a project for smart and caring people, in the evening, the most important thing is the war in ukraine, the main topic for ukrainians, victory and loss, analysis and forecasts, politics and geopolitics, serhiy rudenko and the guests of his program will talk about all this, people who have information and shape public opinion, people who defend ukraine and create the future is already important and interesting in the program verdict by serhiy rudenko from

monday to friday at 20:00 repeat at 12:10 this is how in the morning ms. oksana meets her colleagues on the threshold of the new modular department in circuses the old one was destroyed by the russian occupiers good morning good morning oksana now i am the only postwoman for three villages and in order to deliver pensions and parcels to everyone on time, i even learned to drive, i had to learn to drive a car , i never thought that i would have to, but the war forced me because it is very difficult to walk alone now many people can get to this inpatient department on their own and freeze here in the winter. you won't have to put a stove, it will be warm. i think it will be very warm . but in most of the liberated villages of the kharkiv region, the department was destroyed by the russians, so now visiting groups are working in kutuzovka, and the queue

is gathering even before the arrival of the car. can i? i'll be the first one, i don't need to work. yes, it works. thank you very much. they are waiting for the curtains like nobody else . good day. please , one by one. four bags for ms. valentina, her children are going to return home from evacuation and have already sent the above things, everything is being sent to come back to uzhgorod with two girls, if it were not for the mobile department and the residents of kutuzivka, they would have to go to kharkiv for parcels and payments, but even public transport is still here i don’t go. people say, thank you very much . the whole village is very satisfied that receipts

are brought here and payment is made. we don’t have to go to the city. it’s nothing. it’s a great salvation for you. oblast and all liberated villages, where the military is allowed to go, the company says, we go everywhere where there is such an opportunity, where the situation of the high administration allows, therefore, even the border areas everywhere. in populated areas of kharkiv oblast , the invaders keep coming, and that's why they still go there through the curtain in armor, says the driver ruslan , the heavy one can try in this bulletproof vest we travel around the region, we make exchanges almost, well, it’s difficult of course well, what to do? and where they can’t get to, they go on foot every

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the future right now the main and interesting thing in the program is the verdict serhiy rudenko from monday to friday at 20:00 repeat at 12:10 exact time the usual tv channel, the usual presenter, my name is yuriy fizar, which means that on espresso the program world at war for 50 minutes, i and my guests discuss the most important things that happened in the world during the past week, we analyze how it can affect the future, what you need to prepare for all of us we are trying to look ahead to the week, which may also have a lot of interesting things in front of us, and we will also have to be somehow ready for it today will be as interesting as always, be sure

i will introduce the guests a little er later literally for a few minutes and now i am doing things that i should do every time before the start of each program, first of all, thank you to all of you who watch the program the world during the war, after all, like the espresso tv channel . thank you for always being with us. thank you to those who watch on youtube, and my appeal is to you. you can watch us on youtube on two channels, the general espressiv channel and the one specially created for the world at war program, so on this one , it is specially created every week almost every week we we are asking you a question today is not an exception, please answer the question prigozhina's death this is yevgeny this is the boss wagner is not even the boss, the founder of wagner and this is the one who is already deceased eh yes , prigozhina's death this is the first accident the second murder the third your

option, please, write your answers, write your option in the comments and i will add the results somewhere inside the program. let's see how you answer the questions, and at the end of the program there are already general results of the warm-up, because in the middle of the program there will obviously be intermediate ones and now 2 seconds, please. 597 7 people are watching on our specially created channel. thank you all very much . 45 people have already answered the questions. watch us on youtube put your likes if you like the program and i am very sure you will like it put dislikes if you don't like it though why should you not like it well and please

leave leave your comments it's very it is important for me personally to read, i think what you think about what is happening in the world, in particular regarding the topics that we will discuss today. well, likes are not likes and comments taken together here, this is very important for the promotion of the program in the complex algorithm of youtube, the more there are, the more people will be able to use this program. so , i am ready to introduce my first guest and proceed to the direct discussion . valery, obviously today we will talk mostly about belarus, of course, about the self-proclaimed lukashenko and about his strange relations, strange for me relations with putin, why are they strange, let's start with this right away . why are they strange to me? i want you to

somehow clarify this to putin lukashenko and belarus in particular. three years after lukashenka could have been overthrown in belarus , but he did not give it. three years later, putin needs belarus as a state dependent on him as a training ground for russian of the military, is it possible that putin is looking at belarus there and is thinking that at some point it will join great russia , is it possible that you have some option? well, you know, i can’t look through putin’s eyes. i don’t know, you don’t know what’s in his head but also his policy towards belarus is very consistent, he once declared in the early 2000s that he would like to see in the belarusian stage russia with six provinces, even without the status of a crooked republic, and then he made preparations for an attack on ukraine

he also used belarus, if there was no such opportunity, he would certainly not have gone to kyiv if he had not had such an opportunity. well , we continue to see that he ties and ties in his plans, it was probably like some kind of revival of the empire, it is clear that he did not i saw it without belarus, but you see, let’s say it is not so easy to restore the soviet union or the russian empire as he wants, these are very serious and bloody events. this is what will stop putin. what is not difficult enough to say, i would appreciate it, i say as our observers say our analysts understand that belarus is under threat under such positions, it appears that under such a temporary occupation, because there are russian troops on the territory of belarus , planes are taking off, and even wagner's campaign is taking place, so lukashenko pretends that he somehow manages us here until controls, but now many are questioning all this

, during the hot phase of the war , belarus was needed for russia as a platform for the rear , let's say, parts as an opportunity to renew forces there for its aggressive troops to transport reinforcements of ammunition cargoes for the treatment of the wounded and so on. that is, from a military point of view, planes are also an important platform for putin in terms of politics. what is he counting on? well, he is counting on a lot. what does belarus have? well, in fact, lukashenko is now. if you were forced to submit to putin, you would do what he wants from him, but ultimately do not destroy their belarusian

sovereignty, er, try somehow even if he participates in these in this aggressive war against ukraine, in other words, or by providing some kind of opportunities to the rear, or let's say treatment, but without the direct participation of the belarusian military in this war, yes, yes, the situation is now developing geopolitically and and it is clear that belarus is one of those political games with such an important moment, i would not like to say games , but such games that putin has spread over our region , then belarus is an important moment element , mr. valery. well, i understood correctly that even in this dependence... e lukashenka from putin still has some leeway in which he plays his game even sometimes , that's why i ask because it seems that the week before last he had a statement that he

instructed hmm, it seems to inform the prime minister of belarus western countries that belarus is ready for cooperation. that is, it is open, that is, lukashenko on the one hand, well, it seems so to me, again, i repeat myself when i look and read on the internet, it is not what is happening in your country, that is, on the one hand, he looks at putin, what putin says, but still leaves some leeway for his own actions , it’s true. well, it’s his constant policy to feed the kremlin with promises that there will be an integration of 30-40 road maps and so on , and we will carry them out, and that’s how it’s been, you know, for many decades, even two decades for ten decades in a row, this only led to another promise, and for this belarus received economic and political preferences so and so further from russia, but still, now the question has been raised more seriously, and if lukashenko still manages, he will try

to show that he had some kind of his own game to introduce at least with the west, he would not want to finally develop ties with the neighboring countries of the european union, because trade and transport are needed and a lot of things, and now belarus is facing the threat of complete closure of the borders with belarus by the countries of the west. the fact that wagner's group is in belarus and threatens, even lukashenko said of your threat that he is ready to go to rzeszów to warsaw and so on. putin, so what was the previous one, let's say 10 20 or so years. it's one thing, but now it's a completely different game, and i think that someone will perceive lukashenko with him, ready at the west to enter a dialogue only in humanitarian spheres

, first of all, about the release of political prisoners about securing the borders to stop this e-e migrant crisis that is still ongoing on the belarusian borders with poland and lithuania there , many migrants will try to get to e-e in the european union, they are doing it quite aggressively, it all continues, let's say actions and participation lukashenka in this war of support and put belarus in isolation and practically without an alternative in relation to russia , mr. valery and how the victory of ukraine in the russian war can change the situation in belarus if it can , of course it will change the situation that russia will lose , it will be weak. that is, it will not be able to, shall we say, seize and if you understand belarusian , then this is what many expert politicians in belarusian positions say that they hope for this victory and place very high

hopes on it, in particular, and recently svitlana tikhonovsky spoke about the fact that she what did she ask for help in ukraine after such a victory? well, president zelenskyi answered this yesterday, it seems, that in the event of such a victory, the situation will fundamentally change . and there will be no need for any kind of intervention from other countries, many hope that in greece it will be possible to overthrow this lukashenko and to return belarus to a normal european democratic path to development well, of course, god willing, i really want it to be like this . i really expect that the victory over russia of ukraine is not far off. look again, returning to belarus, the victory of ukraine will somehow change something in belarus or, um, there is something in belarus, but you already mentioned svitlana tikhanovskaya, will she be able to fully assume

the duties of the president in case such a time comes and it is necessary to take, well, such a unified transitional cabinet was created, the office of the tikhanovskaya council was created, and so there is baisov baikov and so on, that is, to various kubkult about culture, by, by, human rights defenders , let's say about it by law enforcement agencies, and so further, that is, there are quasi-ministries that could influence somehow well, not to take over, but some control functions, some possibilities, we do not know how all this will happen, they are - but these groups are obviously created abroad and they have connections they control the situation and have hope, but how it will be here is difficult to predict , in any case, i think that this is a large part of the belarusian political spectrum, which

is currently abroad in belarus, which forms what is its own activity, which imposes contacts with foreign leaders is practically a completely free world that it fulfills its important function, at least it will offer the belarusian society that remains in the territory of its state mr. valery and i also read that in addition to mrs. opportunities to live on the territory of your country, and because of lukashenka, it is obvious, but who are also considered by some as such people who can bring about a change of government. i am very afraid that there will be no such thing that these opposition representatives began to pull a blanket over themselves, now there is some kind of coordination between them, well, there is coordination, and there are disputes, as in any democratic environment, someone blames someone for something, this is a normal process. well, i think it

is still different from those events that were, say after the elections there in 10-15 years and previous crises of very serious crises in belarusian let's say yes about the legal system and with the legality of the elected or unelected government in this case it is a unique system that is so noticeable and very powerful the center was formed, formed in emigration, that it works, that it did not fall apart despite the crisis and the desire of many to stop its activity, somehow discredit it. they remain today . of states , that is, the international international, let's say, activity and internal activity, the reaction to everything that is happening, you are the voice of free belarus, she

indicates and she and all these politicians, that is with lukashenka, it is impossible to conduct a dialogue, so i think that all of this is generally positive for me valery, look, i read it today. it's true , but now i was trying to remember . i forgot the name of this opposition woman who was supposed to be released today . released and such a small rally gathered, well, literally up to 10 people who demanded the release of this person . tell me, please. and why is lukashenko now afraid to release those whom he imprisoned and continues to invent new criminal cases against them, that is, even the smallest ones liberalization of repression is not allowed by lukashenka, people suffer, they sometimes do not have the opportunity to receive some parcels , including medical ones, voluntarily, they have no contact with lawyers, no contact with

relatives, and their correspondence is also limited and in very, very terrible conditions they are there and every day new ones are arrested and all of them also report beatings and abuses. this , uh, probably lukashenko further thinks that with such cruelty he will be able to suppress the belarusian society and force him further to submit to him, that's what we see now. 80 doesn't back down from this. valeriya , now about the wagnerites. they are now demoralized and already, as far as i understand, are partially leaving at least the territory of belarus. they were supposed to prepare an attack there, you already mentioned it, even it is possible such an attack on rzeszów or warsaw , the second option, they were supposed to prepare the belarusian

army, now they have gone, it turns out neither that was not an option, why did he call them, well, the official ministry of defense of belarus said that they were training there, but they know that there are several thousand such trainers , there is no need, although if it was officially reported and the camp was built like that, and lukashenko said that he was ready to give them shelter to intervene in the resolution of this conflict situation, so that it was two months ago . here they came. in fact, it was a simulation of activity. they were here for some time, but now we see these tent cities little by little collapsing. here so it is clear that it was necessary to get to that point, what happened in order to take this campaign out of the game and wagner and let's say worried and everyone who did this let's say this also in the month of june and now it is probably coming to

an end over and to sort out their business and so on. i think that we have become better at this now. it is clear. well, i have the last question for you for today. and please tell me about the ongoing military exercises that have been continuing regularly since the beginning of the full-scale invasion of russia into ukraine. if before the beginning of this invasion, we in ukraine were afraid that the belarusian army, maybe, or the russian army from the side of belarus, could invade the territory of ukraine, or maybe even the belarusian army would join the russian one, they would cross the border with ukraine together and go to polissia. now, it is obvious it has not been an option for a long time, but why do they constantly continue these exercises, well, it is in order to keep the military in good shape , to show russia as well that belarus is preparing to act there somehow, but here now we heard the information that the 2023 training was apparently canceled by russia because there is no possibility for them. well, the belarusian

military is training but is not ready to fight, so it is conducting training. it is clearly not ready to fight . that is good. told what is happening in belarus. now valery kalinovsky, a correspondent of radio svoboda from belarus, unfortunately , because of lukashenka, is temporarily not in belarus , joined us. well, before moving on to advertising, what must be on on television, a little more about lukashenka , yes, no, putin could not do this, the self-proclaimed president of belarus, alexander lukashenko, will comment on the story of the downing of the private plane of the founder of the private military campaign, wagner yevgenia prigozhina , he emphasized that the president of erefiya, vladimir putin, is a prudent and very calm person, therefore , and then the quote is self-proclaimed i can't even

assume that putin did it and that it 's putin's fault and lukashenko continues too rough, too unprofessional work for that matter this is the end of the quote lukashenka well, what's more, grigoryovych also told journalists that this was last week on friday, that it turns out that he did not give prigozhyn security guarantees. it was very easy to do on the internet , just a few months ago, look at the telegram channel that is associated with the self-proclaimed oleksandr lukashenko and there on june 27. here is what oleksandr lukashenko said about what he said that he did not give a guarantee of safety , listen to what he said on june 27