[000:00:00;00] e russian generals, and then there will be no economic opportunities to continue to exist in the form in which it was branched, this is a terrorist organization from syria and small to bakhmut and ukraine. thank you, mr. valentin, for the conversation. this was valentin nalyvaichenko, people's deputy of ukraine, former head of the security service of ukraine friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us on youtube, you can take part in our survey we are today we are asking you about whether volodymyr zelenskyi will overcome corruption is a fairly simple question and it is related to zelenskyi's statements that he will submit a bill to the verkhovna rada of ukraine that will define corruption , committing corruption during the war as

treason, so we ask you whether he will overcome corruption volodymyr zelenskyi yes and your option, please write in the comments further contact us roman kostenko people's deputy of ukraine colonel of the security service of ukraine mr. colonel i congratulate you and i am glad you to see on our broadcast good evening right, well, since mr. colonel, we ask our viewers whether, in their opinion , volodymyr zelenskyi will overcome corruption, i will ask you whether zelenskyi's initiative to equate the commission of corrupt acts with treason during war can reduce corruption or at all to destroy from the inside, the main task is to prevent corruption , it is necessary to prevent it on the ground, at institutions , not to give people the opportunity to engage in do we now have a low term for corruption no, now for

corruption, you can get up to just i remember 12 years is not enough. well, for murder, premeditated murder. about the same. people can get that. therefore, this is a long term. i think we need to follow a different path here, along the path of prevention and creating conditions for the reconstruction of the institution. we have a lot of law enforcement agencies that deal with corruption, the security service and now and again, law enforcement agencies such as the police are engaged in this, and i think that if we wanted to, well, to the full extent, then well, let's say that the struggle was better and there are still many questions, which even the president's office did not give an answer. well, first of all, there is an open question about salted solar power plants that were located in the occupied territory and which state, for example, paid the funds and related to this, one manager. well, for one of the workers of the president's office, did they give an answer

on this question, is it corruption or not ? no, that's why we need to prevent and be with you one of the scandals that is currently in the news, which the ministry of defense is actively refuting regarding the purchase of e-e jackets abroad in turkey for the armed forces of ukraine journalists anti-corruptionists also write that summer jackets were purchased , but winter jackets arrived, and summer jackets arrived . there, one last name sounds the same, and there, too, it is about the company that made these supplies to the ministry

of defense, those involved in the founding of these companies , including officials from your position in the current situation. well, one more scandal in to the ministry of defense of ukraine, isn't this a reason at all? well, to start some kind of wider campaign, uh, to find out what 's going on in the ministry of defense in general, and what the parliamentary security committee of us is saying about this, because, frankly, i don't know what the people who are now at the front, but you can guess, but it’s not nice when people who are connected to the government try to engage in looting during the war. well, yes. a lot of scandals lately . we want to start from the egg to 17 which everyone has now remembered the question with jackets about the beginnings, they generally said that they bought summer ones, they bought winter ones, and summer ones came, now this question is refuted, and yet

the ministry of defense showed that they bought winter jackets there by weight, they even checked everything that they found indeed winter jackets, but there is a fact that the price in turkey was the same, but in ukraine it was three times more expensive, and of course the law enforcement bodies of the committee and the anti-corruption committee have to deal with it, and we, as the national security committee, have also invited these documents in order to understand them and see how these contracts were executed. but i really remember march of last year , the 22nd, how everything was purchased, and here it is very important to understand it correctly and place the emphasis on whether there were good jackets that came , well, you don't remember that that they were different, sometimes the fighters were even given jackets, hmm, civilian jackets were used as terror defense, and it was officially issued by the ministry of defense

when i asked about it. of course, we have law enforcement agencies that have to deal with it. if there is a direct violation, then it the guilty should answer why , according to you , if there is a rather harsh punishment, because 10 or 12 years for acts of corruption. why is it probably difficult to prove the reason? apparently, we see that quite often they announce that a person has been arrested for corruption , some money is spread on the floor there, and in the end, even sometimes the person is not caught

, and the rest are in the pre-trial investigation. that's why first of all, the law enforcement agencies are not working well , and they cannot to a certain extent collect the material so that the person leaves 100%. it is necessary to work precisely as an investigative body and operatives at the stage of proving the crime mr. colonel, obviously this topic will be on the lips of politicians and journalists for several weeks, let's return to one more statement of volodymyr zelenskyi, who that he is going to equate corruption with treason, he made yet another demonstrative statement that when the defense forces enter the border with occupied crimea , it will be possible to push for the demilitarization of russia in crimea by political means, let's listen to what

the supreme commander of the armed forces of ukraine said, there will be fewer victims if we on the administrative or conditional borders with crimea , and i believe that it is possible to politically push for the demilitarization of russia on the territory of ukrainian crimea. i believe that it would be better, i think so. well, i think first believe me about those who will carry it out, colonel, in this case we are talking about the fact that ukraine and the world will force russia to leave crimea without using force on the crimean peninsula itself, i understand correctly, well , i think that the president means it, but let's say so

what do we need to understand in order for russia to make such an act of goodwill, we have already seen it in practice, uh, we have to have the circumstances, and the circumstances must be formed by military means, i already spoke about it and even spoke on the crimean platform , i also spoke about it that crimea there is a big one in it the political component, the putin component, the fact that it is very important for them, and i compared it with the de-occupation of kherson. well, first of all, we know that the de-occupation of crimea is not impossible. if we do not dock kherson and zaporizhzhia regions, this is a fact. and we will not go anywhere from this. was important for him er gained

popularity he was able to oppose himself there to show the world that he is returning the russian lands there, he compared himself to emperor peter there a lot is very important to him and the dream was also very important to putin because after the actual full-scale invasion it was the only regional center that the russian federation managed to capture by writing this in the constitution, they remember zaporizhzhia , they included the region. but there were no regional centers there, and this was the only thing that could be politically presented there, not some town or village, but the regional center, that's why it was important. well and the area of ​​the right bank was also very important for putin, this advance to mykolaiv, odessa, moldova, cutting off from the black sea and, let's say, the return of novorossiya, russian lands there, but ukraine did not allow it to be done when the high-mars appeared in our country

when we had long-range artillery , we began to give the impression of going with a lamp along the dam on the antoniv bridge and then forced the ingulets river, then we switched to and began to counterattack and forced russia to forget the political slogan and for the important kherson they began to flee, forgetting that they began to take into account only the military component, they had a choice either to politically hold on to kherson or to save their troops, so they chose the right decision to save their troops , leaving kherson to our forces to defend , so i will say that this is a training if we do something similar in crimea, we will break the crimean bridge , uh, uh, it is forbidden to sail in the black sea with the help of our kamikaze drones, as it is happening now, when the security service

will expand and ships will not be able to calmly swim, we destroy the infrastructure, we destroy the control points, the storage warehouses, and then when it becomes an island, then the russians will think that they will shout next. well, i am not talking about a change of political leadership , we are only talking about military service, when we create all these conditions, then the russians will think and what else? do they have to defend, does it make sense and how are they going to do it well, of course, they will definitely have to go in, because until the soldier arrives, the territory will not be liberated , but if such conditions are made, then of course the russians can think the same way as in kherson, well, by the way, the armed forces of ukraine and gur fighters are already entering crimea, and budanov says that ukraine will liberate crimea by combined means, but without military action - this is impossible, we already know that

special forces entered tarkhankut and actually this is the beginning. i consider it the beginning of the deoccupation of crimea at the same time at the same time everyone is talking about some kind of peace process and peace negotiations and obviously in the west this is connected with the fact that they see that the armed forces of ukraine are approaching the closer the closer they are to crimea and they understand that crimea is precisely this point and what putin is most afraid of losing, because putin has elections in the 24th year and he understands that if the armed forces of ukraine will e-e expel russians from the crimean peninsula, then his future presidency will be under great question or there will not be such total support , french president manuel macron at the same time says that the world that peace in ukraine cannot be established by a simple ceasefire with confirmation of the actual state of affairs, let's hear what macron said and peace in

ukraine cannot be just a ceasefire to confirm the actual state of affairs, in this case it meant preparation for a new war, it should be a sustainable peace with respect for ukrainian sovereignty and international law, as far as i understood the french president correctly, macron wants to have no russians on our territory at all and no negotiations, no peace temporary or there minsk agreements are three conditional so that they do not have any other question at all or they leave our territory and leave our territory for a long time or they remain in part of the occupied territories and another war is waiting for us, what do you think about this, that is, the russians need to be pressed to the full and expelled from all our occupied territories, and if so, at what

price can it be ? we are doing it, it can be destruction, we now understand that the war is entering another phase, this is a war of economies, we understand that now every counterattack goes , but there we bear losses and the russians have more resources and our political leadership because the political leadership it is the politicians who determine the strategy of waging war, no matter who spoke, the military said, don't interfere , we will do it, but those who are professionals know, the military-political leadership determines the strategy of waging war, how they want to see which territories are liberated, in what way, what prospects, in what terms, and are transferred the military to the military say then we need such resources for this and are developing an operation to implement these plans therefore we must have a political strategy for

the release it can be different first the strategy is indeed that we continue to advance and are sure that we have endless resources, our resources, our partners constantly transfer them to us, and we are thus moving forward , of course, bearing other losses. this can be a strategy, as, for example, there was in the first world war, when weapons from one on the other hand, quite a lot accumulated, as it is already now. the attack of each side, at a great cost, at a great cost, and they reduced, let's say, the battlefield. this was an important component, but the economy was more important. we remember germany back then invaders and germany signed the capitulation practically occupying some lands of other countries there, the same france, belgium, others , that is, they captured them, but with the help of destroying their military potential, destroying the economy there with sanctions or let's say

mobilization that they did not pull it out, this is already a question for our partners in the country i was forced to sign a shameful capitulation for myself, being in line , i say once again, this is also a strategy that can be used. we strike with long-range missiles . for this, they must be agreed with our economic partners. we are not destroying the enemy because the strategy is as it is now, when the enemy has superiority in the air, superiority in missiles, superiority in the navy, superiority in the army, superiority in the economy. it will be very difficult to win. that's why we have to understand how we are in the new phase of the economic war, who are our partners, who are our friends, who helps us, and how our economy works in this direction.

and in the meantime, the armed forces of ukraine are striking e-e objects that are already on the territory of the russian federation. 16 kamikaze drones worked against four aircraft 30 and one of them 29 which was located at the airfield in kursk. among the affected targets are the radars of the s300 complex and 2 shell. we have a small video. we will watch it now . it happened on the night of august 27. kitchen i am living in ukraine. up well, you see , people are beginning to feel what war is

, the transfer of hostilities, mr. colonel, from the territory of ukraine to the territory of russia federation or how effective it is. how clear is it that when they hit the airfield in the military, they hit the planes here . there is no doubt, but in general that the night strikes on the territory of the russian federation are drones . to the russian federation to what extent it can change the strategy of the russian federation regarding ukraine regarding the war, i.e. is this an event for the russians and the russians in some way, as far as it is still possible for the military and political leadership of the russian federation, you know, our commander-in-chief also told his leadership that we run the risk of remaining a part of the russian federation if , well, something like that, literally, if we

strike at russia, i understand him , he communicates with his partners, i think we need to understand what he had in mind keep in mind that it is us with the forces and means of our partners. if we are going to make an impression or there with our own forces and means . what are the limited quantities we have? to reach out and here you can understand that we are taking long-range weapons from our partners, as the minister of defense said, some documents were signed that we do not carry out strikes on the russian federation and that is where we fulfill our agreements, but i will immediately say that once again at this stage of the resource war each country is a loss if we hit the enemy's territory. i am not saying now who allows it, who doesn't allow it, we can't, i say in general, strategically, what is a loss if we don't, but we say on the territory

the enemy, and here, having some territory to hit civilian objects or some cities, this is also a losing option from my point of view, we have if we have to hit, hit with missiles specifically at the locations of their airfields, e control points a-a b ammunition logistics warehouses, and most importantly to those factories that repair, that make rockets, repair equipment , that is, i don't know what they are, their gas wells, oil wells, this is the war. there is some potential to destroy the russians, and for now the advantage is completely on the russian side. on the russian side, they can hit our economy. we can’t. they have planes that can hit our planes without being in the hit zone . it is not to our advantage that they do not tell us in may in crimea or how we will liberate crimea, let's first

equalize resources either at the expense of partners or at the expense of our own pc and even when they are equalized it will not mean that it will only mean well, when they ask me when they will give us f16 we will win for sure i say we will definitely not lose now this is the schedule and we have to understand it and do everything to not lose first of all and take our territories from the second place and this is a complicated story that should lead to decision-making, including striking at serious objects of the russian federation, once again i say no, not poor people somewhere in some houses, but at serious objects that affect er, some things in the russian federation, mr. colonel last week it became known about the already formation of an aviation coalition for ukraine. the netherlands, denmark, and norway have promised us f16 fighters, and the first batch of aircraft is already

5 or 6 aircraft. they have been promised from denmark by the end of this year. the total number of aircraft promised is 70 or 71. you have already said that the presence of such aircraft will not lead to a drastic change in the situation, but it will allow ukraine, well, at least to hold off the enemy and not lose this war. oleksiy reznikov says that the use of these fighters will already be in the spring of 2024 and he literally said the following in an interview with bilt we must put an end to russia's dominance in the skies beyond the battlefield, planes in the 16th state of the air defense unit, we can strengthen our capabilities in the sky to protect the airspace, that is, our cities. for us

, this would be a great breakthrough, very it is very clear that the western resources are not so close to those of the west, and in a war with the russian federation, one way or another , we will have to rely on our own resources, and zelenskyi in an interview with the mentioned and, well, you said that we have already started to produce weapons and it quite modern weapons that allow us to supply the armed forces of ukraine with more weapons than before. in your opinion, are there enough resources in the ukrainian state to create, in conditions of constant shelling, a sufficient resource of the military-industrial complex that would provide for the ukrainian army, because in the western press it is very i read a lot of posts today about the amount of ammunition, how much does the united states of america give us somewhere, and since we are shooting there, western experts are beginning

to evaluate whether we are using these effectively ammunition is ineffective, is there a strategy, what is the state strategy of ukraine regarding the restoration of the military-industrial complex, of course , part of it was destroyed by the russian army , because our main goal was the demilitarization of ukraine and we visited these facilities. are there currently such resources that would allow us to creating a military economy was the first thing to start with, i think, of course you know, we have to understand what airplanes are, we say that we need modern airplanes, e.g. f16, yes , everyone who is a pilot or who was involved in aviation should understand that f16 are airplanes of the 70s

which were put into service and time gave. she was modernized in different and they are of different modernizations. there are also planes that, er, er , let's say somewhere at the level of our mig-29, and somewhere there is a better question, are there any that could oppose the russian su-35 and su-34 well, i'll leave it unanswered, this is a question that will be given to us by the netherlands, well , our pilots will evaluate it. let's say yes, i will also leave it, let's say so without comments, that's why it's very important, of course when we understand when we and our partners talk about modern weapons which simply stands for the russian federation, then this is not an f-35, and it is not even an f-22, it is an f16 , there are quite such old planes that operate all over the world, but uh, in russia, let’s say that

there are more modern planes with more modern weapons and which can work, we also have to take this into account, that's why the minister talks about protecting the sky and not about superiority in the air. well, in terms of numbers, of course, the russians are hundreds and having an advantage is quite difficult. i don't want it to sound pessimistic. i want it to sound realistic. when we calculate when we are talking about partners, we thank them very much, but substituting the resources of ukraine and the country that was preparing to fight with the whole of nato with what they give is quite such a difficult situation , especially when you look at all this , rearranging it, you understand how much you need, because of airplanes, of course we are waiting for them. i think they will strengthen our pko and allow not to allow russia to fire missiles at everything so freely and somewhere they can support our troops on the battlefield eh on the battlefield as for the resources that are available so ukraine has started

to manufacture our own ammunition, this is ammunition and conventional weapons that are used on the battlefield, and of course we need to continue to work. the main thing is deterrence weapons - this is a missile program that will allow us to hold russia and hit them in response to those objects that i have already mentioned before that, we started to do something, but will it be enough, of course, without partners , we will manage, especially since there are specific weapons, the same high-mars that have shown themselves very well. will not be able to provide that amount because 50% of our artillery is already 155 caliber until february 22 , until february 24, 22. they are not anywhere, they are not there. bulgaria is doing something, but everyone knows that there are big problems with gunpowder

all over the world, so of course we are doing something, but without partners it will be difficult for us. therefore, it is also the task of the supreme commander of our diplomats to do everything so that we are provided with our weapons and in the future, of course, we have to be, i don't know, provide ourselves at least 50 to 70 percent with our weapons, then we can be a subject. as well as on our social networks on youtube and facebook , voting on youtube is now ending. i am asking you about whether president zelensky will overcome corruption. at this moment , more than 400 people have voted, 79% think no, 16% remain optimistic that president

zelensky will overcome corruption. well, six percent of those who watched us have their own option . we will try to understand the ukrainian counteroffensive in today's broadcast of bbc ukraine. i am olga ponomaryev, the force of work is not in the zaporizhzhia region, it was dismissed , the ministry of defense of ukraine announced that the fighting for this small settlement lasted for three months, why are the works not so important for both sides, what prospects are opened for the armed forces of ukraine after the release of this population at the point ukrainian troops completely liberated the village of works not in