[000:00:00;00] at the beginning of the war, i was personally the initiator of several appeals to the state bureau of investigation regarding certain purchases, which i cannot speak about now . in connection with the fact that all information with limited access concerns the armament of military equipment, that is, members of our committee constantly raise such questions and thanks to these circumstances , there is absolutely no reason to talk about any preferences of the dissidents of the committee. i think there is absolutely no reason, because it is even more likely the opposite . there are some hypothetical requests that could be made by the members of the committee. they will definitely be be perceived very cautiously or would be perceived by the ministry of defense by the relevant officials who are very uncomfortable at the committee meeting, blushing, sulking , and so on, therefore, in this case, i would urge to wait for the conclusions of the relevant law enforcement agencies, because blaming a colleague and calling on him to leave the committee or to stop suspending his committee members this would mean in my opinion that he

gives that there are any problems according to his sincere e with knowledge at the committee meeting he had no idea that his nephew on 5% for a short period of time was the founder of this company, by the way, he is now in a month or two after the start of the contract, he left the criminal proceedings, he left as uh, no, it was earlier than as far as i understood from gennady's words, it was immediately after that, a month later, somewhere after the conclusion of this contract, to any public high-profile issues related to this particular case, so i would have known that gennadiy also appealed to the law enforcement agencies on his official social networks and pages so that they would carefully were investigated and he is ready to give any testimony, let's wait for the conclusions of the law enforcement agencies, because whether you are a person to blame or not is not about accusations, but about being temporarily removed from the performance

of membership and duties of the defense committee for the duration of this investigation. this is what i'm talking about, i don't see any problems in this , i emphasize once again because there is no uh, no possible influence on the activities of the ministry of defense officials of the ministry of defense well, according to my information, the members of our committee especially the members of our committee have definitely not heard ah mr. fedorov thank you for being in touch with us fedirvenislavsk people 's deputy from the servant of the people faction - a member of the defense committee the president's representative in the parliament was in direct contact with us eh we have let go of mr. fedorova daria well, then i would like to ask you to reflect on the last a-a replica of whether people 's deputies who are members of the defense committee have or can have , including a certain influence on the procurement of the ministry of defense, see the direct function the e-e committee has the function of parliamentary control over the ministry of defense. it is critically important during

martial law because the public, ordinary citizens , cannot control where and how and why the ministry of defense spends our funds. taxes of ukraine are spent exclusively by this ministry, the funds for everything else are spent on the funds of international technical assistance , we cannot control how these funds are spent, the funds are spent through purchases without a competition are very often purchases from one participant and very often the ministry of defense initiates from which one participant will be purchased uniforms or eggs or weapons, here are all the members of the defense committee. they have access to unique, exclusive information, they had i would really like to ask uncomfortable questions

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after lukashenka could be overthrown in belarus but he did not give it, but after three years, putin needs belarus as a dependent state as a training ground for the russian military, or is it possible that putin is looking at belarus there and thinking that at some point it will be annexed to great russia or maybe you have some option. well, you know, i can’t look through putin ’s eyes. i don’t know, you don’t know what’s on his mind, but also his policy regarding belarus is very consistent. others once, in the early 20s, in the early 2000s, said that he would like to see in belarusian stage of russia with six provinces, even without the status of a crooked republic, and then he made preparations for an attack on ukraine , he also used belarus if there was no such opportunity, he would certainly not

have gone to kyiv if he had not had such an opportunity. we see that he is tying and tying in his plans, it was probably like some kind of revival of the empire, it is clear that he did not see it without belarus eh, but you see, let's say it is not so easy to restore the soviet union or the russian empire as he wants it very serious and bloody events. here's what will stop putin. what doesn't mean it's hard to say, i've assessed it that way. i'll say what our observers and our analysts say. they understand that belarus is under threat, even in positions that appear to be under temporary occupation , because they are on the territory of belarus. russian troops, e.e., planes take off and wagner’s campaign is even present, but lukashenko pretends that he somehow manages us here and controls us, but now many people question all this, but during the hot phase of the war, belarus was needed for russia

as a platform for rear e let's say parts as an opportunity to renew forces there for their aggressive troops to transport reinforcements, ammunition, cargoes for the treatment of the wounded, and so on. that is, it is in military terms and so important for putin political platform, what is he counting on? well, he is counting on a lot of things. he also talked about a political disaster. that's why he probably would like to update something. so, this is a rather difficult situation with which belarus has. well , in fact, lukashenko now. if you were forced to obey putin, you would do the following. what he wants from him, but finally not to destroy belarusian sovereignty, to try somehow, even if he participates in this aggressive war against

ukraine, then more with words or by providing some kind of opportunities to the rear or let's say treatment, but without the direct participation of the belarusian military in this war, yes, yes, the situation is now developing geopolitically, and it is clear that belarus is one of such an important moment in that political. about belarus, there is an important element here, sir, i understood that even in this dependence of lukashenka on putin, he still has some backlash in which he even plays his game sometimes, that's why i'm asking because it seems that the week before last in he was a statement that he instructed the prime minister in belarus to inform the western countries that belarus is ready

for cooperation. that is, it is open, that is, lukashenko on the one hand, well, it seems so to me , again, i repeat myself, looking and reading on the internet, not what is happening in your country, that is, on the one hand, he looks at putin, what putin says, but still leaves some leeway for his own actions, the truth. well , it is his constant policy to feed the kremlin with promises that there will be an integration of 30-40 we will carry out road maps and so on, and here it is, you know, for many decades, yes, two ten-year decades in a row, this led only to another promise, and for that, belarus received economic and political preferences so and so further from russia, but all- after all, now the question has been raised more seriously, and if lukashenko still manages to try to show that he is trying to introduce some kind of his own game , at least with the west, he would not want to permanently sever ties with the neighboring

countries of the european union, because trade a lot of things are needed, including transport , and now belarus is facing the threat of a complete closure of the borders with belarus by the western countries. these militants go to rzeszów to warsaw and so on. and all this causes such a reaction and he falls into stronger and stronger isolation and depends only on putin, so what was the previous, let's say 10, somewhere 20 or so years . that's one thing, but now it's a completely different game and not i think that someone will accept lukashenko and he is ready to enter a dialogue in the west only in the humanitarian sphere, first of all , about the release of political prisoners, about securing the borders, stopping this migrant crisis, which is still ongoing on the belarusian

borders with poland and lithuania, there are many migrants there they will try to get to ee in the european union, they are doing it quite aggressively, it all continues like this, let's say, the actions and participation of lukashenka in this war, the support and put belarus in isolation and practically without an alternative in relation to russia, mr. valery a. how the victory of ukraine in the russian war can change the situation in belarus , if it can, it will certainly change the situation that russia will lose, it will be weak. that is, it will not be able to, let's say, capture belarus . they have very high hopes for her , in particular, and recently svitlana tsykhanovskyi spoke about the fact that she asked for

help in ukraine after such a victory . well, it seems like yesterday that the president answered zelensky that in the event of such a victory, the situation will fundamentally change and soon , some kind of intervention from other countries will be needed, many hope that in greece it will be possible to overthrow this lukashenko and return belarus to a normal european democratic path to development well, of course, god willing i really want it to be like that. i really expect that ukraine's victory over russia is not far off. although it will be difficult. in belarus, is there in belarus, did you already mention svitlana tikhanovskaya, will she be able to fully assume the duties of the president in the event that such a time comes

and it will be necessary to take over, well, such a united transitional cabinet has been created, the office of tikhanovskaya has been created, e- e council and so there baisov baikov and so on, i.e. to various cubes, cults about culture, by, by, human rights defenders, let's say about it, by law enforcement agencies, and so on , that is, there are quasi-ministries, if so, that could have some kind of influence well, not to take it upon themselves, but some control functions, some possibilities, we don't know how all this will happen, they are - but these groups are created abroad, of course, and they have connections, they control the situation and have hope, but how it will be here is difficult to predict, in any case, i think that this a large part of the belarusian political spectrum , which is currently abroad in belarus, which forms its own activities, which imposes

contacts with foreign leaders, practically completely free world, which fulfills its important function, at least will offer the belarusian to the society that remains in the territory of its state p valery a-a i also read that, in addition to mrs. tikhanovskaya, there are still people who , unfortunately, do not have the opportunity to live in the territory of your country because of lukashenka, obviously, but who are also considered by some as such people who can bring about a change in the government . i am very afraid that there will be no such thing, you know, that these opposition representatives have started to pull the blanket over themselves, now there is some kind of coordination between them , well, there is coordination and disputes, as in in any democratic environment, someone blames someone for something. this is a normal process. well, i think it is still different from those events that took place, let's say, after the elections there in 10-15

years and previous crises of very serious crises , let's say so, in belarusian, the legal system and with the legality of the elected or unelected government , in this case you are a unique system that such a prominent, very powerful center was formed formed in emigration that it works that it did not fall apart despite the crisis and the desire of many to stop its activity somehow to discredit here they remain today uh svitlany tikhonovska is in slovenia meeting with the president of this country with the foreign ministers of canada, bulgaria and other countries there , that is, the international international , let's say, the activity and the internal reaction to everything that is happening, the voice of free belarus, she points out and she and all these politicians, that is, it is impossible to conduct a dialogue with lukashenka, so i think that this is all, in general, this is

positive, they are valery, look, i read it today. i really tried to remember it now i forgot the name of this opposition woman who was supposed to be released today, it seems that they didn't release her because of the hailstorm or yesterday or today they didn't release her and such a small rally gathered, well, literally up to 10 people who demanded the release of this person . please tell me why lukashenko is now afraid to release her the will of those whom he imprisoned and continues to invent new criminal cases against them, well, that is, even the slightest liberalization of repression is not allowed by lukashenka, people suffer, they sometimes do not have the opportunity to receive some parcels in including medical ones of their own volition, they have no contact with lawyers, they have no contact with relatives, and their correspondence is also limited, and they are in very, very, let's say, terrible conditions

, and new ones are arrested every day, and all of them also report beatings and abuse . apparently, lukashenko still believes that with such brutality he will be able to suppress belarusian society and force it to continue to obey him, that's how we see such tactics now. they are distraught and already as far as i understand, they are leaving partially at least from the territory of belarus. please tell me. and why did lukashenko call the wagnerites in general, because well , i read several options, they were supposed to prepare an attack there, so you have already mentioned even he is possible such an attack on rzeszów or on warsaw the second option, they were supposed to train the belarusian army, now they left, it turns out that neither was an option, why did he call them, well , the official ministry of defense of belarus

said that they were training there, but they they know there are several thousands of such trainees, there is no need, although if it was officially reported and the camp was built like that , and lukashenko said that he was ready to give them shelter and intervene in the resolution of this conflict situation, so that it was two months ago , here they came. in fact, it was simulation of activity, they were here for some time, but now we see these tent cities are collapsing little by little . that's how clear it was that it was necessary to get to the point where it came to take this campaign and wagner out of the game, and let's say i'm worried and to all those who did this, let's say this one too, uh, in june, well, and now it is probably coming to the end of a to sort out their business and so on. i think that this is now more clear

to us. and please tell me about the permanent military exercises that have been regularly continued since the beginning of the full-scale invasion of russia into ukraine , if before the beginning of this invasion we in ukraine were afraid that the belarusian army, maybe, or the russian army from the side of belarus, maybe invade the territory of ukraine or it is even possible that the belarusian army will join the russian army, they will cross the border with ukraine together and go to polissia. now , obviously, this has not been an option for a long time, but why do they constantly continue these exercises, well, it is in order to keep the military in good shape to also show russia that it is that belarus is preparing to act there somehow, but now we have heard information that the 2023 exercises are apparently canceled by russia because they are not possible well, what about the belarusian military

training, but not ready to fight, so he is conducting training. he is clearly not ready to fight. that is good, valery. i thank you very much for participating in today's program. thank you for telling me what is happening in belarus. now valery kalinovsky is a correspondent of radio svoboda from belarus, unfortunately, now because of lukashenko temporarily not in belarus, he joined us well, before moving on to advertising, which must be on television, a little more about lukashenka, yes, no , putin could not do this, the same proclaimed president of belarus oleksandr lukashenko will comment on the history and downing of the private plane of the founder of the private military campaign, wagner yevgenia prigozhina, he emphasized that the president of erefiya, vladimir putin, is prudent and a very calm person, therefore , and then the quote

is self-proclaimed. rough, too unprofessional work , for that matter. this is the end of lukashenka's quote. well, what's more, grigoryovych also told journalists about this last week on friday, which it turns out he did not give guarantees of prigozhin's safety, when i tried to convince him to stop his trip to moscow and did not allow, did not invite them . to do this, i went to the territory of belarus, i shopped on the internet, it was very easy to do, just a few months ago, look at the telegram channel, which is linked to self-proclaimed oleksandr lukashenko and there on june 27. here's what oleksandr lukashenko said about what he is, that is, now on friday, he said that he did not give a security guarantee , beauty, listen to what he said on june 27 , listen, i said, i'm coming. well, this is a guarantee what's next, i'm telling someone

that i'll take you to belarus, i'm guaranteeing full safety for your guys who have advanced here with this column. yes, i believe you. i believe we 'll do well in this direction. when he saw this, that is, on the one hand , a person who calls himself the president of a large european country says that she did not call prigozhyn giving him security guarantees , that is, she called so that prigozhyn was safe on the territory of belarus, and here he is said on june 27, when is it real? it was called. well, that's it. ok, let's go to the ad now. it will last a few minutes, not long. make yourself some tea or coffee quickly, but come back, because it will be just as interesting

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