[000:00:00;00] it's up to everyone in their own way, so i want to feel more that people are interested in war because one of the reasons why we have a full-scale war is because people in the championship since 2014, they haven't given it enough importance. well, i do i don't want to speak pessimistically, but in reality victory depends on each person, you can't wait at home while there at the front , they are afraid of the local people, and there, after a certain number of days, you will be there with victory, you just clap with it, everyone has to do work, not everyone has to keep a machine hands but every person can find some kind of niche, which will be a consequence of the victory, it is very like a lunch, uh, phrases when a civilian says, i am not going to war because i am not ready.

from the 23rd year to the 23rd year, it would be possible even in civilian conditions to prepare very well, that is, you will not hmm, even in civilian life there is an opportunity to prepare for war, of course you cannot learn how to fire a mortar or lng there, but you can you some basic basics pull it up and it will help you on the battlefield serhii, thank you for the conversation just recently we heard an air raid signal so we will probably have to somehow find a safe place i will remind you that we spoke with serhii konoval, a soldier of the 67th brigade of the armed forces of ukraine take care of yourself well chevrons that victory is approaching, another year when we do not

celebrate but choose our independence , another day when they try to deprive us of the right to be ourselves and another instant of a terrible war that has been going on for centuries, but the whole the world is already convinced of our independence, don't hump, don't drown, don't burn, don't shoot, and the bigger our hatred is, the stronger our independence is, the closer our victory is, we prove our independence every day if someone close to you has joined the armed forces of ukraine, you should know the title, position, number of the military unit, company, battalion,

commanders' contacts and contacts of siblings will be useful. keep calm and support each other. tell me honestly, how can you not free yourself from an obsessive thought? ignore it and write down your thoughts. now try to return your attention to what you do, to find out other ways to improve your condition, go to the website how are you.com in order to feel the charm of hutsulshchyna , but to understand the language of the heroes, this

film is not what we know about dovbush, not what we heard in the song the events that took place there, i don't know, a few dozen years after dovbush, er, they attributed to him at least this is just a spectacle of admiration, er, a very cool action movie about the peculiarities of the script of the film dovbush, the controversial figure of oleksa himself, and what viewers and readers can expect from the story about the carpathian hero, and we are talking with the ukrainian poet, prose writer and publisher, the author of three books about oleksa dovbush , one of which was written on the basis of the film script by vasyl karpyukku. i congratulate you, mr. vasyl . i congratulate you. tell me how your cooperation with the dovbush film team began the year is 2018, because the film was shot for a long time, they worked on it for a long time on facebook

, eh, a member of the film team wrote ivanna, who said that oles sanin wants to contact me and has some business, it was very unexpected, very interesting, intriguing for me, because i at that time i only knew who oleg sanin was, i had only seen his films povodyr mamai and he was someone far away and unattainable who is currently making modern ukrainian cinema, but already after 15 minutes he wrote back the phone number and oleg sanin called and he actually said what the matter was are the shootings going on, or are there still preparations for the script for the film dovbush, and he invited me to join as a script editor, as a speaker

of the hutsul dialect, that is, your role in the development of the script is the dialect itself and some more dialogues maybe you are what exactly is this editorial work, what did it consist of, it turned out to be not easy. as an editorial work, that is, the initial one, yes, oles sent the then version of the script and i tried to rework the dialogues by adding some hutsul constructions, that is, the task was not just to give a dialect because if we did everything in dialect, not everyone would understand, but it was necessary to give the dialect to such an extent that the charm of hutsulshchyna could be felt, but that the language of the heroes could be understood by everyone. so, already in the fall, i went to

kyiv and we started working with the scripts actually it was several visits for a few days there for a week, a day or two. so, at that time, a certain version of the script was ready. initially, it was written by vasyl portyak. then, when it was getting closer to filming , maksym chernysh built a more modern version based on modern dramaturgy. but what did he want? sanin, so that it is not just a classic, so to speak, just a well-made script, and add not just a plot, but give appropriate scenes, appropriate messages, and put them in such a way that it

is usually as it should be, and in fact, he himself is very i worked a lot and worked together with him. we went through each scene many times. we talked for hours. we wrote dialogues for each scene . we rewrote them. i said them with that accent, with that accent, as it would be in hutsul, although the phrase was literary , so it was more or less understandable, but the accent or accent, uh, it immediately gives this atmosphere. in this format so that it sounds the way it should be, in your opinion, what is the strength of this

script why is it strong, at least it gives a very unexpected new story about oleksa dovbush, that is, this film is not what we know about dovbush, not what we heard in the song not what you can read in the works of art written about dovbush until now, that is, oles sanin offered completely different accents and this story is not about dovbush and the call is not about betrayal. in at the beginning of the 18th century, hutsula managed to present some new idea

, the feeling of a person, the feeling of hutsul, and that is why he became such a legendary figure that has been admired for hundreds of years. the authors took into account the specifics of the region in which the events take place. i am talking about archetypes of people, about clothes , about some symbols, about folklore , how much is there, well, extremely much. i think from this point of view, the film is extremely good, that is, a huge team was involved people, experts in the history of folklore, ethnography, many costume designers who reproduced as much as possible the clothes of that time, that is, the hutsul region of the time of dovbush -

again, this is not the hutsul region that we can imagine now when we hear this word, the clothes were quite different from back then oleksa dovbush didn't wear an embroidered dress every day, because the embroidered dress first appeared in such a wide skirt a little later. and secondly, it was very expensive clothing that ordinary peasants could not afford. reproduction of the era, er, reproduction of the region, very, very much work was done here , and not only hutsulshchyna, but also the polish part, a lot of research was carried out and the reproduction of the time although it was easier with this, because the appearance of a polish soldier is

more recorded, there is a lot sources, well, but again, in order to show them authentically, it was necessary to research all this, what the films actually did, well, in addition, there were also a lot of poses of events in ukraine, the locations were visited, and the most relevant ones were selected it was difficult for the actor to repeat. well, for some, for example, people who are completely unfamiliar with the dialect, it was partly because it was difficult, of course, because it was absolutely new , but the film has some specifics. that is, it is not only the first frame that was shot there, or the gels of several takes, and as the actor said so all that was left was dubbing before voicing, i.e. everything was done so that it was as it should be, i.e. during the filming. and it was quite a long

period and the actors felt how it was. well, in the end , it was easier for oleksiy hnatkov actor of the frankiv drama theater. and he himself, in fact, that is, he knew everything well. he even improvised well. at some point , i wanted to ask about the source base during the creation of the script, and in particular, the books on which sources were mainly based, well, for documentaries, such episodes as evidence during dovbush's life, what exactly there is a preservation in the polish archives of court testimony on the murders, here is the testimony of the same stefan dvinchuk who, according to legend , killed dovbush, and these documentary materials are also translated into ukrainian in works

, in particular, the research of volodymyr grabovetskyi by yulian tselevich, this is still the end of the 19th, the beginning of the 20th century. this is if you take scientific books from fiction, so to speak . of course, i also read hnat hotkevich's dovbush. e jewish writer and native of ukraine from buchach, leopold also has a fund of zacher the masochist e-e there are stories about dovbush by franzisko karpinski, a polish writer e-e who told and wrote, in particular, from his own family experience, an episode of his relationship with dovbush

that is, dovbush was, so to speak, present at his birth, this and the stories collected in peter shekeryk donykvym and many other ethnographers, do you see the symbolism in the fact that uh, this is exactly the story about such a proudly norwegian, possibly uncompromising ukrainian, appears on the screens precisely in the time of a full-scale war and how much our cinema, our audience, our reader needed just such a movie, well, symbolic symbolism , the film was actually planned to be released in may of the 22nd year, that is, it was precisely the full-scale war that delayed its release a little. but now i i think that such a film is very appropriate, since ukraine is in a state of war, in a state of struggle, for hundreds of years, legends about dovbush gave strength to the hutsuls who told them and said that such a person

was among us, now i think this film will allow all ukrainians er, to learn more about this character and again to see ukrainians among us, this is who he was, and he became the prince of the mountains, the prince of the carpathians, as is not said in some legends. cinema with pathos to make it pop oles sanin said in an interview that he avoided this thanks to such a natural play of actors, a young honest actor of generations feels the truth with his skin and shuns falsehood, how to guard against this

excessive pathos and er pops at the level of the text at the level of the script to write live language, not slogans, and you can be careful about that when we were working there on some lines with dialogues . so what was the task of saying yes, giving such a phrase that hutsul would say, even if it is something important, some kind of message, so on to say a slogan or something, so to use that language so that it sounds natural, that it sounds authentic, that is, how to protect yourself depends on the author himself, on the creator , and i think that at this stage of ukrainian

culture, the figure of dovbush is very lucky that it was just that he started making a film about him, but sanin, who has this flair, who knows how to make such a film, he felt dovbush , understood him and wanted to show him as he understands him, as the international contexts ukrainian-polish and ukrainian-jewish are written in the script of the film because it is still very delicate, considering the historical background against which the events are taking place, there is no question of a struggle there, i do not know the ukrainians with the poles , here you are talking about sprinklers on the specific territory of specific landowners, that is, princess yablnovska, who owned lands

and managed them even according to historical documents , when these processes were taking place, the activities of the opryshks were sent there, or several thousand soldiers, in order to prevent the last uprising, and after that, the crown hetman jozef pototsky, who sent them, gave a message for these lands on taxes under pressure. that is, it even gave , in principle, a practical result for all the peasants who lived on these lands. therefore, this is actually a story about a person in a certain place and his struggle, and not an international confrontation .

to poles, uh, also from historical uh, documents, uh, this is recorded, and he is also present in the film , that is, this is one of these heroes, and one of the characters in the film was played by many polish actors. this is the first time, apparently, that bal shantov is also present. actually one of of the main such jewish spiritual teachers. that is why there are legends about their meetings with the dovbush. oles sanin said about the film that it is a great story of love that can even destroy, and oleksiy hnatkovsky said in an interview that our story is not about death, not about dying for one's homeland about the fact that everyone who encroaches on her should be killed . what is the story of dovbush about for you? it is difficult to say so unambiguously here there are many stories and a love story , by the way, it is not unexpected here that you are just very

different from, so to speak, traditional of the plot and it is much stronger, i think. that is, in folklore, the same thing happens with polarization . someone is good, someone is bad, someone is specifically intended. in the film, it is much more human and, accordingly , much more difficult in the film. how did you mention the historian? and his article also contains this conflict with his brother, and this is also a very strong story, first of all, it is about strength, about a person who is er and ready to fight, why should people watch dovbush, read dovbush, and do you think people will like the film or

others, it will become a cult and at least it is just a spectacular film, it is exciting, it is a beautiful, cool action movie that takes place in ukraine on ukrainian soil , but also, i think that it will be interesting for export and will be watched with no less interest in the world because it not only has its own genre features, but it also has this ukrainian hutsul world , which is for the wider world, and i think it is new for a wider ukrainian audience , not even because it is a ukrainian movie, but because it is

a very cool movie that's why i have to watch it thank you for the conversation mr. vasyl, thank you for the invitation chevrons bringing victory closer on august 23, 1939, the molotov-ribbentrop pact was signed, the world met it with black humor, but on september 1, it was no laughing matter germany attacked poland on september 17 , the soviet union entered the war on the side of the third reich 23 in december 1939 , the pravda newspaper published a warm birthday greeting from comrade stalin on behalf of adolf hitler. i ask you to accept my most sincere greetings. stalin replied to hitler and ribbentrop. the friendship of the peoples of germany and

of the soviet union bound by blood has every reason to be long and strong friendship bound by blood did not last long and the fire of war already took paula world war ii took away according to various estimates from 70 to 86 million lives crimes of the kremlin they always say we can repeat energy is the basis in general any state, any economy , we are dealing with terrorists. they wanted to plunge us into darkness, they have power plants there, each of you knows what to freeze on the street -10 here we are -10

to deprive life-giving energy of course they wanted a blackout, but we managed and destroyed their plans when we launched this block restrictions on ukraine disappeared because the energy of indomitability burns in the hearts of ukrainians documentary project on september 2 at 10:00 p.m. and at the beginning of a full-scale war i left my sports uniform and boxing gloves at home instead i put on a military uniform and took hands up, world-class kickboxing champion from cherkasy roman shcherbatyuk serves in the armed forces, but how does he manage to combine sports and service in the armed forces

, today we are talking i congratulate you, you went to of the armed forces in the beginning of a full-scale war in the very first days, tell me how you managed to make this decision in fact. this decision was made a long time ago, as soon as it started. the decision how we will behave where i will go well what will the family do in the event of an invasion that is why this decision was already ready and it was absolutely obvious to me and did you then think about your sports career you are a world champion it wasn't even worth it to me

such a question because well, what kind of sport can there be in a country that has been destroyed and captured by the enemy, that is, i absolutely want to . i didn't even think about it, and well, my family was also against everyone , they wanted, er, everyone understood and everyone wanted to stay here and fight and be together, do you remember what your coach said to you when we implemented the decision, he said i'm here if there are enemy tanks approaching there they will come, these are his words, well, it was. when we called us, then we were. well, no one else, well, everyone is like that. a stormy period.

when the enemy may come to us, we were on the defense of the city and well, these words sounded from him in the spring of the 22nd, you were already in the camp. and at that time, what was your military training ? uh, since the time we had for training thanks to my company commander and the chief sergeant who were training, we squeezed out the maximum and prepared as much as time allowed us, the fact that you are an athlete played a role. i was and is a more psychological attitude towards those things that i had to see. and of course, if physical form and endurance, they helped in everyday life in combat actions after

him and popasna, you performed at the world cup and became winners there, after that you also performed at the world games and won bronze, how dare you compete without such we had a thorough preparation, but we all understand that it is not enough for a competition of this level. but again , i would like to thank our federation and all the coaches who were involved in this, who in such a minimal period of time prepared and invested everything possible in us, well, everyone strength in order for us to perform successfully, i hesitated for a long time even at the beginning before leaving for military operations. well, if it was allowed to leave, well, it wouldn't be a problem, but as i said, well, how can i not do it because well, i have an obligation

, and we already had an order to go there anyway, and i was well, let's say like in the team is like a family and i couldn't just leave my brothers at that moment and go to the competition, it seemed completely inappropriate to me, that is , you already felt more like a military person than an athlete that is, i have uh, well, such a tail, uh, well, let's say talents are part of my profession, and depending on the priority, i do one or the other, but now i consider myself more of a military person than an athlete, because it is, well, how does it affect my preparation and in general for sports life now. and regarding the question of preparation, we prepared