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weapon is the truth. the forefront of the information front each of us is approaching victory , we are winning glory to ukraine the only news in the center of events august 30, a full-scale war has been going on for the 553rd day this morning , a team will work with you on the air of the united marathon 1+1 and that half an hour of news from tsn, an alarming night in ukraine and a mass harvest. attack sirens sounded in all regions. just a few minutes ago, they began to report about the repulse. the alarm that lasted for three hours was canceled, and in kyiv, according to the information of the air force of the armed forces of ukraine , russian drones attacked ukraine in the middle of the night. then cruise missile launches were recorded in various regions and in the capital, where the local authorities first reported on the work of air defense and later on the fall of debris in the adarnytsia and shevchenkiv areas

, in particular, on the roof of a shopping facility more we will find out details about the consequences of these enemy attacks during the morning broadcasts. russia is restless, drones attacked several areas at once, in particular the upsk region, local residents report dozens of explosions there, the summer above the crosses was attacked , the local governor reported, the russian media have already informed that four il-76s were damaged as a result of the attack both military and civilian aircraft are based at the airport . fuel tanks are also falling there, and the occupiers are driving all the ships to safer places. they report that the drone has been seized hit the weapons warehouse, the territory of the unit and the airfield was surrounded by riot fighters, the edelweiss plan was announced, also the obskov hit the location of the second brigade with a special task force, there were explosions, all the security forces of the city were raised and reported a fire in the area of ​​the military

unit 64 044, about the downing of three drones over bryansk and one over the oryol region , the russian ministry of defense informs the explosions were heard in bryansk itself, there, a drone fell on the territory of the kremniel plant, this is one of the largest microelectronics production enterprises, there was also a loud noise in the turkish region at the airport psko- they are canceling flights for today, they also closed the airspace and on the topic of moscow airport vnukovo and also in ryazan, a load of cars went there 6 crosses are burning there where you still heard it was heard somewhere, it flew normally over the crosses now, it was definitely in sevastopol bay the occupation authorities report on the attack by drones and the work against air defense and here we have operational information from the kyiv

city military administration that as a result of falling debris in the shevchenkivskyi district of kyiv previously, two people died on the territory of the enterprise, another one was injured, we will find out the details later in the issue, i am oleksandr sklyar, born and raised in kharkiv, in a city that suffers daily from russian weapons, i know that poltava has become a home for tens of thousands of displaced people, and for me it is a second hometown where were the best years of my career. thank you to the armed forces of ukraine for the opportunity to play football. i

came back, i was sad, but not combispasm , leave combispasm, the power that tames your pain. in pharmacies traveller, bam and savings, ukrainians romanticize freedom, this is how it happened in our tradition, will, freedom, all this is like air, something that you cannot touch, but without it, you cannot breathe, and on the one hand, it is really like the classics, because not a zloty equals all the gold against freedom, it is just a swamp, but only now, when they try to subjugate us again, not metaphorically, but

literally, when they try to seize or destroy. only now has the understanding come freedom has a price and its excessive juice must be paid for and we are paying watch this week's program collaborators creeps from berdyansk who were happy to meet the russian army

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serhiy rudenko and the guests of his program will talk about all this people who have information and shape public opinion people who defend ukraine and create the future now is the main thing and interesting in the program verdict serhiy rudenko from monday to friday at 20:00 repeat at 12:10 greetings friends this is a worldview program my name is vasyl zima and you and i during the next 45 minutes we will talk about how to find that conditional such an artistic image of evshan-potion, the smell of which will bring ukrainians back home or make them return home, let me remind you that the ukrainian poet mykola voronyi once wrote a poem called evshan-potion , the story of the return to the native home of a person who

was separated from this home and there at the beginning there is the epigraph to this poem and there mykola voronyi quotes the words of the author of the ipativ list of the old russian chronicle there are such good words to лучше есть на своей змије костью лечи и не лена is someone else's glorious beat will something force many ukrainians who have now left the borders of ukraine under compulsion or of their own free will, no matter what happened to kostya in their native land, whether they were gloriously beaten or beaten to death on the land of a foreign land, which today became a temporary home for them, we will talk about if it didn't sound like that, well, maybe rude and a human resource that ukraine needs, that needs a lot of things in the european union , and here is this battle for people that is already being fought, that will be fought even more actively, what will it lead to, and will the ukrainian government, above all, be able to, above all

, the ukrainian society that is now in ukraine it is necessary to find this evshan-potion for me so that it will bring ukrainians home. so, evshan-potion for ukrainians how to bring citizens home now or something. later we will talk with our guests whom we invited to the conversation and who is already in contact with us oleg penzen a member of the economic discussion club, olezhe, i congratulate you. i congratulate you too . where do i start? yesterday i read a story about the fact that a draft law was submitted to the german bundestag that shortens the required period of stay of e-e foreign citizens in the territory of the federal republic of germany is necessary for these citizens to acquire the citizenship of the federal republic of germany. we are talking about reducing this period from eight to five years. well, in some places they even say that it can be three years, and for me this is such a signal that germany is obviously interested in many i will not say that in all, but in many ukrainian citizens who work today

, realize themselves, study and build a new life in germany, the same story exists in poland, because i also want many ukrainians in poland leave it in your territory. i also remember the conversation of one of the ukrainian politicians with the ambassador of the republic of poland in ukraine, who said that we will fight for your citizens, we will fight because there are working hands and bright heads and energy. they are also needed, or is there already a problem that ukrainian citizens will not just decide for themselves whether to go home or not, but that these ukrainian citizens in the european union, at least in many countries of this union, will be fought for as a labor and demographic resource well, you did

very good overview , there are practically a lot of answers to those questions. what you just mentioned is in the information you have already provided. so let's try to be as specific as possible. of european institutions, 8.7 people left ukraine during the active phase of hostilities, this is too high a number , that is, more left, some returned, but of those 8.7 million people, about 2.5 million people directly left for the european union, and about 3 million e-e forced while they left the territory of ukraine in the direction of the aggressor country. that is, we must understand those things and we must treat them accordingly .

at least there are such figures, why are we currently so uh-uh, the importance of these figures is because, hmm, it is necessary to understand that for the recovery of ukraine, well, this applies to any other country, the money that comes in the form of investments. they are not money solves the main issue - it's only money, it's a resource for creating a workplace, and actually the added value was dumped, the domestic product is created by laborers , people create it, and today, according to the estimates of the ministry of economy, ukraine needs at least 5 million more laborers for a normal recovery, that is, there is a lot an important issue regarding the return of forcibly displaced persons to ukraine, and now we actually approach the problems that you just raised

, that is, among those people among those forcibly of displaced persons who have left the territory of ukraine to europe, appropriate sociological studies were conducted, which revealed that at least a third of those who left the territory of ukraine will not return, that is , we are talking about those people who have already found work, who have already found places e- education for children who have already integrated into that society. where did they go? the lion's share of those people are today in poland, the czech republic, slovakia, er, somewhere around er, well, roughly 28-29%, er, of people who clearly say that they will return as soon as the security conditions allow it, that is, the first very serious problem is the security conditions and another third - these are the people who have not yet decided, that is, of the people who left, at least a third is ready to return

it's somewhere, well, in the best case, it's up to 2 million people, all the last ones at the moment are either hesitating or are finally going to stay, and look why at the moment our european partners are making the process of naturalization so much easier for those people who actually left for the border as a refugee, a ukrainian citizen, a ukrainian refugee is extremely attractive from the point of view of his as fast as possible, let's say, naturalization in the countries where they left why, because , look, first of all, a ukrainian dissolves very quickly in the society in which he is not, he is very he quickly adapts to the conditions and language parameters that exist today in the countries of the european union. he very quickly integrates into the society that arrives

. now let's compare a ukrainian refugee with, for example, a refugee from the middle east from the east, refugees from africa come to the european union from eh, those eh categories of businesses, as a rule, eh create their own rather serious compatriots with their specific religion with their eh, let’s say clear and rather rigid attachment to the language group, that is, eh as a rule, ukrainian business is extremely comfortable for the country where it comes to. it integrates very quickly, and why are the poles and germans raising the question today? european society, why is this necessary? when you and i look at the demographic situation in the countries of the european union, we will see that

the european union is rapidly aging at the moment. that is, they urgently need workers, young workers who will work at those enterprises . which are in the european union today, moreover, those working hands must be integrated as quickly as possible. what is the society? well, there is an extremely interesting figure: every third child born, for example , in holland is a to the muslim family i don't want to say anything about the muslim religion, every person in the right-wing has the right to tell you what they think is necessary, but the fact that at the moment there is something like this indicates that it is extremely

important for europeans in fact, the integration of refugees into the society that is the dominant one that is the main one in the european union, and er ukrainians are just the most er well, let's say that they are comfortable for countries from the point of view of their europeans according to their psychology er genotype let's say so with everyone there are pluses and minuses. ukrainians are, er, they are europeans, and the most important thing is that they are ready to learn, and you rightly said that they are not ready to integrate, but i am in that story that i know , let's tell them there, relatives, close friends who went. well, that's a simple story when you have to go to language courses let's say in germany, ukrainians walk despite everything, despite the fact that they have to ride a few kilometers on a bicycle , despite the fact that they are small children, they completed these courses and received certain certificates so that they can continue to work, unfortunately, let's say refugees from countries of the middle east, as you said, or mainly from african countries. these courses did not finish somewhere, at some stage, you simply covered up for them, they no longer went , well, that is, you will still give help there , and you will still pay us, why should we teach and study there

this german language to work and grow and this is one component of another word about which we cannot help but say now it is money of course er well-being of germany is industry or production with a large added value that provides without the poor life of these countries and well, there is also the banking sector and so on well, but mainly it is of course production with a high added value , this is what ukrainians can learn, this is where they want to attract ukrainians, because all this should work in such developed countries as austria and germany , well and there is also poland , which is currently growing, continues to grow here, money arises because, well , i am familiar with a simple story, er, keep it short, continue. well, people cannot immediately find a highly qualified job , they cannot even find an official job immediately but everyone is trying to get an official job, here is my acquaintance, let's say doing some simple work. well, there, cleaning offices or some other such things, is a person

doing more than a year in austria already paid off her car in ukraine with her job by profession with a higher education, she this she could not do it, it is simple, it is clear that a person can return, can grow further, gain more knowledge of the world, she is a young person and have an even better job, and here the question arises very simple. i am not talking about the issue of patriotism, it is either present in any or are not present, we are now talking about simple , practical, material things that motivate people. because a person needs security and not food. a person needs money. these are the basic basic needs of a person without which he will not be able to live and move. in your opinion, and then we move on to ukraine, and regarding ukraine, we can say now, one very important figure is that ukraine, as of july of this year, has a record for foreign debt of such

a total debt, it amounts to several trillions, we are talking about, well, now i will tell you how many, 132 billions, billions , not hryvnias, but dollars, in my opinion. in the financial payments that she has to make in july alone, the debt will be cut by 4 billion dollars , this is only in july. well, the question and here the question is quite disappointing. here are the questions for you . please tell me what you think , whether ukraine will be able to lure ukrainians home with money. not i say again, someone will come by himself, this is understandable and correct, but many people will have to be lured, so let me try to answer those questions. what you mentioned first is that the high added value produced in the countries of the european union is synonymous with

high wages, that is, if you work at industrial enterprises where there is a high level of processing and production of the final product, then objectively you produce a sufficiently large amount of added value, which then turns into high incomes, that is, you must understand that all european countries have a high level of income of their citizens not because they are sitting there on some colonies there and pump oil from somewhere there, just the opposite. they have a high level of income because they have high-tech production that provides high added value and as a result this is the result, the result of such a high added value is a sufficiently high level of income of the population living in these territories and working at these enterprises, this is the first point for which i am saying this, until

there is an appropriate level in ukraine high-tech industries , wages will be low in our country, no matter what we talk about with you about how ukrainians should be lured back with money , that is, we must understand that as long as ukraine does not have an adequate level of processing, we will trade raw materials with the civilized world at our level of income will be low. that is, this is the first point that must be understood . labor is security, because as long as there is a war, you and i will always be exposed to a security situation. and as long as rockets fly, as long as civilians are destroyed , we will not be able to organize the return of people here, despite any conditions, and

another negative moment, the longer it lasts the more the war continues, the more our refugees adjust to living abroad. and when a person has settled in somewhere, when he has found his place, when he has integrated into the society he left, he should return here already will not be let's call a spade a spade, that is, in this situation, we should all understand that the longer the war, the more difficult it will be to organize the return of ukrainians to their historical territories one more moment. let's once again clearly understand what can happen after we we will get money when we create jobs and when the ukrainians who have left do not want to come back, what will happen here and here

will be what is always there when a family goes to this land from its land, that outfit comes to this land there is no land of our own. that is, we can expect here refugees from south-east asia, ostarbaiters. please excuse me for such a phrase from south-east asia, from the military of central asia. well, let's say the average ones who are currently traveling, you and i cannot. so we will have you and i will have er those er scenarios of development that today we can see what is happening in the european union in the rich european union, that is, at the present moment, why did such a huge number of er, let's say, social groups

, social lands in the european union arise in them the issue is serious with the labor force, they created the conditions for that company's labor force to come into their own, which actually were ready to share their population and they created the conditions actually when they arrived there and all the people we discussed with you, central asia, southeast asia, are close the east, that is, that society, which is quite difficult for integration, and it is necessary to understand that these people are ready at the beginning to go to a low level of wages, because where they live, they have huge problems with the standard of living, huge problems with the cost of labor, they are ready to come here, and there is a very high probability that we will have that scenario with you , what are the problems that exist today in the developed

countries of the european union, and unfortunately, this scenario is not very good for the future of ukraine why because let's look at the average number of children in a ukrainian family let's look at the average number of children in the country of refugees for example from central asia from southeast asia from the middle east african countries, that is, this is the model that we are currently discussing, it is currently in the european union, which, let's say, has turned into an extremely large migration problem in the countries of the european union, so ukrainians must return from the point of view of preserving their national identity . sorry, this is an extremely big problem and the state has a very large choice. yes

, the state today is trying to create a microcredit program. the return of ukrainians, but through i repeat, it requires a lot of money, it requires large social programs . and you and i perfectly understand one more point, uh, we talked about refugees like this. there is a minute left now, so in reality we have problems , well, the pensioners did not leave, we understand that the pensioners remained with us, the age group of ukrainians who remained will age very much and this is also a problem that will require, well, in our country, we understand that we have the pension system assumes that pension payments go at the expense of those who work. and if we have 10.5 million pensioners and

15 million workers left, then you have to understand that pension incomes are also pensions plus we have plus young people die every day well, and older men also become cripples, these are also facts. these are very, very big, big problems that require a lot of questions , so, well, we just stated them with you today. and how to solve them in this huge, we will talk about it in any case, thank you olezhe oleg was very happy we talked with him about the economic economic component of this issue oleg pensin he is a member of the economic discussion club also today we will have a conversation with maksym pylypenko, he is the director of communications from the work.ua website, we will talk about how ukrainians work where abroad, what is offered to them there, and what kind of workers does ukraine need now, again, what kind of jobs can it offer to our citizens, who today are forced, well, or

of their own free will, who have moved abroad ukraine, stay with us. we continue it