[000:00:00;00] plus we have plus we have young people die every day well, older men also become crippled these are also the facts these are very extremely big that require a lot of questions so well, we just stated them with you today and how to solve them this huge we still we will talk in any case, thank you very much oleg oleg e penzen was with us on the call, we talked with him about the economic economic component of this issue oleg pentsyn he is a member of the economic discussion club also today we will have a conversation with maksym pylypenko he the director of communications from the work.ua website, we will talk about where and how ukrainians work, where abroad, what they are offered there, and what kinds of workers ukraine needs now, what , again, jobs can they offer to our citizens, which are forced today, or of their own free will, who a-a left the borders of ukraine, stay with us we continue this

is a very important topic and a very important conversation, but literally in a few minutes after a short pause, the worldview will be warned again to the era that ukrainians should not think about, that they should not speak on the first place still goes to war war and our victory only on espresso from monday to monday completely different spheres of human activity sports health politics the return of crimea military analytics nine presenters journalists experts opinion leaders in real time about the most current events through the prism of war in author's projects on espresso andriy yanitskyi keeps the economy under control , yes, we are talking about economic news on the espresso channel, but it is not about dry numbers and clear terms, it is about the economy, it is about skills analyze, forecast and benefit from what currency rates will be, salaries and pensions, and how product prices will change

, information about everything that affects our wallet, and informed means armed , see the news project of the economy with andrii yanitsky on weekdays at 8:10, no espresso, we return to the conversation - this is a worldview program and here is a quote for you, but the song is gentle, any, no, the first strong, strong, did not impress the youthful heart , he sits mute, indifferent, the old man 's head bowed down, the chest hums, where there is a fire instead of a heart, there will be no salvation, but no, there is still hope here on his chest in a bandage with trembling hands, he tears the shirt from his chest, that yevshan takes off the magic potion and sniffs the young man, gives this top to the young man, what happened to the young man, the goods ran, they ran to god , his eyes trembled, he flashed and jumped to the level of his native step, wide, free, so the recruit a certain person suddenly stood before his eyes with him and a loaf of unfortunate bread with poems when voronoi yevshan-potion we are looking today for this yevshan-potion that will make e-e arouse and wake up in many of those who, for objective

or subjective reasons, will not return or i don't want to return from abroad to rebuild ukraine. we still have to win here, of course, but only later and rebuild ukraine after the war, we will now talk about where to find this evshan-potion that would make a hardened heart somewhere there or something else wake up and remember the steppe free will and come to our country maksym polopenko is with us the director of communication from the website work.ua mr. maksym i congratulate you i have a good day we will move from such poetic things to purely material and prosaic things before the questions i want to ask you please tell me whether indeed, the countries of the european union today are interested in ukrainians, and if we talk specifically about working hands and not just about the fact that a person wants to stay there and live on some kind of help, 400 or 500 euros or 300, who is there somewhere, how much does he pay? somewhere, i understand. well, up to 50 years is possible . what kind of work? what kind of workers

are needed today? europe or indeed some eu countries are at least ready to detain ukrainians ? well, it should be noted that there is really a large the number of ukrainians left abroad, and it is estimated at millions of people, and we know that migration was abroad even before the full-scale invasion, when people left in order to earn more money , now people left because of the war, and the number of people, as i already said, is millions of e- e and for foreign countries. this is a large number of economically active population that can actually work in this country and we see on the example of this same poland where ukrainian

businesses are also opening e which are developing and which are being filled the economy and it is definitely eh. it creates certain difficulties for us and for ukraine in the return of ukrainians from abroad , so the question is urgent. production from businesses from the service sector from the medical sector from the state sector, well, actually, this is an objective process that continues to a greater or lesser extent , men and women are now being mobilized and still need workers, both the private sector and the state sector of the economy, which now there is a need for workers already now in ukraine, is the question closed more or less or not ? look at the working-age

population in ukraine. if it is equated to the number of able-bodied population that existed before the full-scale invasion, then it is about minus 20% of the workforce of the able-bodied population, and on the other hand, if you look at the recovery of the labor market in ukraine, we currently have more than in particular, on the website work.ua, there were more than 100,000 vacancies before the full-scale secondary one, at the moment, there are already more than 95 of them. that is, we can say that the labor market in ukraine has almost recovered and employers are already faced with a shortage of personnel, and with a shortage of qualified personnel, this is a double there is a lack of such specialists and employers are interested in ukrainians returning from abroad because, in your opinion, people are needed , as of today, so

ukrainians are needed now, i’m not talking about that what will be it is necessary when the restoration will begin, we believe in victory, we help, we support the armed forces of ukraine, we understand that this process may drag on, but it will end sooner or later and the war will end, and we will have to restore and predict how many workers ukraine will need then , it is difficult, but we understand this construction, this is a field services, this is medical, well, there are many areas that will need it, well, it’s banal, it’s agriculture, it’s transportation and transport, and whatever else, that is, people are needed here there will be more and this, well, even if we talk about the restoration of, let's say, the kakhova hpp, it will require a lot of specialists, a lot of people who will do it, this is a big job as ukraine will face. especially since the territories will be restored, social workers will be needed , psychologists will be needed, teachers will be needed we understand everything, even the officials in the liberated territories or in the de-occupied territories will also be needed , people will also be needed now. you can roughly understand, again, how many

people will be needed, and the question is simple, but at the same time, it is difficult whether ukraine will be able to recover on what scale, exactly, with the help of workers, if , well, relatively speaking, 40%, let's say 40% plus or minus of those people who left today will not return at all , well, look at the forecasts of the mini-economy in the next 10 years ukraine we will have to find more than four and a half million working population in order to restore the country, that is , the number of ukrainians needed for restoration is quite large, but there are also ways of restoration. we recently conducted a survey among entrepreneurs who found out what they see as ways to overcome the shortage of personnel in ukraine, and in the first place there is this investment in training and development

of the existing e-e population, which is the existing staff, the following is the introduction of new technologies that will allow people to perform faster, faster and more efficiently one or another task. in the third place, it is noted that the return of ukrainians from abroad is about how to return from abroad, first of all, it is necessary to create decent working conditions, starting with safety and finishing the payment, the following is the following - in principle, it is necessary to form a positive summons regarding work, as i already said that the number of jobs in ukraine has almost recovered, that is, work is based on salaries. we also see that the average salary is increasing, it has increased since the beginning of 2023 from uah 15,000 to uah 17,500. in the fall, we expect that the growth coach will continue, but the most important

factor for the return of ukrainians from abroad is , of course, safe conditions. we need victory, and then the entrepreneur will have more wants to return, but we we are watching now, in particular, people come to our company who have work experience even in international companies, but because they do not understand that it is necessary to support ukraine and make a choice in favor of work for ukraine, and this is a dream job, a job, not comfortable working conditions, a dream job, namely a job dreams that make sense and that help the country well, here it would really be based on the ideological component. anyway, it won’t work out, it has to decide somewhere that it wants to restore ukraine, having lost something somewhere, but it has to be a decision. yes, here in in any case, if you count only in terms of money, well, our viewer writes under a nickname, i despise him, he writes on youtube, we have a chat and there

you can watch the broadcast and write your comments, and this is written by a man who is obviously in one of the benelux countries. that is, it is there e.e. holland , belgium, luxemburg, here he is somewhere in one of these countries and writes . so, i will report on the example of vacancies in the benelux countries: welder, electrical technician , milling machine 25 € per hour, i already calculated 25 €, it comes out somewhere around 1,000 uah if 5 hours a day is 5,000 uah 5 days a week is uh 25,000 uah and for 4 weeks it is somewhere around 100,000 uah it's us so well it's roughly possible and doesn't work 8 hours i don't know but i'm so in on average , i parked somewhere around plus or minus 100,000 uah, a person can have per month in the benelux countries, working as an electrician , a milling technician, well, maybe also a welder, yes , well, this is just an example of what people have there ... there are denominators who work there and clean . they have 12-15 euros per hour. well, that's it. different work, but this is roughly

the order of numbers, and again, i understand that money is now money to beat the offers of germany, austria, well, rich countries with a gdp per capita of €60,000. well, it's not easy, that is. in your opinion, it should still be from the side of well, not so much society as the state , first of all, because there are also certain bodies that should be engaged in propaganda in a good sense, pr of their state, so that people return to be more this pr component is an ideological component of what people have call to return and work now with this, not later when the war ends in an emergency mode here the war is some kind of negotiations maybe there is a capitulation i don’t know there will be something and here let’s do it, that is, it is worth starting this work now, of course we will be realistic salaries european salaries with ukrainian salaries of course, they are mass specialties. they do not

compete, so there is no need to compare here, but if we are talking about qualified personnel, about the same doctors, about uh, marketers about it specialists, well, we can discuss here, but for now, yes, as you pointed out, the most important thing is uh, well, in order for people to willingly return, it is necessary that there be security in the country and relations, yes. many ukrainians have gone to europe and see what the conditions are like there work, what are the living conditions there, and of course , in order for them to want to return to ukraine , it should be better in ukraine, well, in addition to the fact that without a homeland, appropriate conditions are needed , so we need to change our worldview, we need to change the partnership of the state and business, and that

should be united by partnership, building a common vision for the development of ukraine, we spoke in the spring with the head of the european association, uh, about work with personnel, and he noted that when the war ends, weapons in our hands will replace knowledge and investments will go to ukraine, and we need to be ready for this, it is necessary to learn to master new technologies and then we will flourish, so work on it, prepare now, meet, create programs. how do you say in order to inform ukrainians abroad about the fact that positive changes are taking place in ukraine, there is a vision of the country's development, and this will also be an important factor in the return of ukrainians. well, you are really telling the truth that ukrainians have seen a different attitude, they have seen the concept of justice when you work honestly and earn money there, you pay certain taxes, but you have certain services from the state, this is also

a service center and not a punitive body that only demands from you and does not give us in return. i think that the ukrainians who will return like this, i believe that the majority of ukrainians will return to you immediately perhaps the parts will return later, of course they will also demand this. and here the question is that the authorities must also be ready, well, first of all , the regulatory bodies, what are the law enforcement agencies and so on, should not be ready for the fact that people will no longer want to live the way it was when someone growled scared no you are a citizen you are needed you know in rome there was such a concept of secession in ancient rome when such simple people are not noble romans simple workers workers they were when the aristocracy got them they just collected manatkas and left rome went out somewhere here in the fields to the steppes and for a while the aristocrats lived without these citizens, then you started to stink like shit on the streets , the horses were not washed, the food was not ready, the clothes were not washed, the apartments, these houses of these patricians, they cleaned up and they went to

fulfill the agreement with the citizens their demands and citizens , these ordinary workers returned to rome and the life of rome was restored in about to change, well, the officials, first of all, change the rules and understand that people are needed and conditions must be created for people, because they don't want to, as before, please definitely those who went abroad and saw how life and work happens there, but instead you told this story and there are already people who are in ukraine and there are people who are restricted from leaving the country and need to think about these people and understand how to make these people want to stay in ukraine

and work for the good of ukraine after the borders will be open, therefore, in fact, there are many issues and they need to be resolved, and as we can see , the sensor also plays a large part in all of this . despite this, we excluded their vacancies. despite this , there are plenty of jobs in the country, and we see that there are even employees of these companies that we refused to work for, and even some of them understood and responded favorably to this situation and they can enter the labor market and find a job among 95,000 vacancies and qualified people are now in high demand, so uh, workers in ukraine are still chosen by employers, and then how responsibly he conducts business, how much he

works for ukraine, how much he helps the defense forces is important because it builds the employer's brand , builds desirable working conditions, creates this dream job and also turns over employees, including the power of the employer's brand to bring people back abroad. thank you very much, maxim god good luck in your work. thank you for your participation. maksym pilypenko, director of communications for the work.ua site, was in touch with us. at the very end, i want to say, do you know all the important things? here i am now reading, people are writing posts, deputies, change the tax code, it should not work against business. take away a lot, because people want justice , it's normal, it's right, people are worried and outraged by corruption scandals , looting, disappearances, that is, many problems

that people are outraged by and many representatives the authorities showed themselves on the shameful side, as marauders, as dung beetles, you know this colorado beetle. he has the same feature so that he is not eaten by some other characters from the cat yard, he throws shit on himself, this dung beetle well, so that he stinks and is not eaten by some a chicken or anyone, but then over time this war becomes so much that under the pressure of this shit, this pus bug itself dies, that is, some corrupt people in ukraine are already from these pus bugs and they played sooner or later they will die under the pressure of that whose crap they threw at themselves is the people's request for justice for honesty, even responsibility for equal distribution of responsibilities because when someone goes to the front someone works above the norm and gets less and someone sits well there it is banal doing nothing just rowing and his children have been abroad for a long time and when you send the holy children to the svatov brothers abroad and then you say you go fight, people don't believe you, you have no right to drag anyone into anything if you yourself are not like that

, that's why these things need to be changed, but in any by the way, i want to say one thing today, our soldiers, men and women are fighting at the front, many people are suffering in the occupation, they are paying the most for this victory and we will be dishonest, i am talking now about those people who are outside of ukraine, if you do not sacrifice, rebuilding ukraine is a sacrifice that can be counted money can count opportunities, educate children abroad, let them be educated from abroad, come to ukraine, build a new ukraine, but it is also a sacrifice to rebuild ukraine after the war. it is also a big sacrifice, you will not always get into the state it must be fair, the conditions must be equal, access to rights must be equal, people must be paid decently, but we must understand that there will also be sacrifice, this is work, a big joint work, we will start this discussion, we will continue it, but it is definitely the sacrifice of ukrainians here. we will be able to do it, i believe. thank you for being with me. it was a worldview program. we say goodbye to you until the 18th. 10th and

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weekdays at 8:10 on espresso, in recent years the it sector has become a business card of ukraine and a pillar of the national economy and it was like that until february 24 from kyiv, from a colleague who says that this is how they started fleeing and the sector survived the war and continued to work. they still continue to work with us, they understand, they support us with this . tell you, the russians did it, so she did it, the elements of our political infrastructure and telecommunications , we understand that they are needed. things, we as a company thought that we could do such a useful thing and as a result several applications of the history of seven ukrainian it companies known all over the world appeared in a documentary film from the ukrainer it project in ukraine during the war saturday

the second of september 11:10 espresso about to the ukrainians didn't think about not talking about the first place anyway, the war comes out, the war and our victory is only on espresso from monday to monday , completely different spheres of human activity - sports, health, politics, the return of crimea , military analytics, nine hosts journalists, experts, opinion leaders in real time about the most relevant events through the prism of war in the author's projects on espresso hello, this is freedom, the morning, the informational project

of radio svoboda, top guests, every day, this is the shipping district of kherson. of seven-year-old nikita nikolaev from the city of rubizhne in the luhansk region, this settlement has been occupied since may of last year , but nikita disappeared already in may of this year, and in fact, the fate of the child has been known for more than three months nothing is known, so i really hope that thanks to your care, the boys will be able to find him. please look carefully at the photo again and remember the face of nikita nikolaev. he has blue eyes and light blond hair. he looks like a 9-year-old child. if suddenly someone has seen nikita or knows something about his possible whereabouts, do not delay and dial from any mobile operator the short number of the magnolia child search service 116,000 calls are free if suddenly there is no

possibility call write in the chat child tracing bots in telegram, this is only one story of a missing child in general since the beginning of the war. we received almost 3,000 requests for help in tracing, fortunately , most of the children have already been found, but the fate of many remains unknown, especially in the temporarily occupied territories, where the work of the police is practically paralyzed, from where it is impossible to leave but there are problems with communication , help find missing children, everyone can take a minute of your time and go to the website of the magnolia children's search service here you can view all the photos of the missing, who knows, maybe you will recognize them and eventually help to find them, look at the photo, this is 12-year-old herman virchenko, the boy also lived in the luhansk region in the city of svatove, which was also occupied in may 22nd, contact

with this boy was cut off for six months therefore, on february 27 and during all this time there was no news about the child, that is why i hope for your help, attention to the photo herman looks 12-13 years old, he has blond hair and is of medium build if suddenly someone knows where there may be a child, don't delay. call us on the hotline at the short number 116,000 from any ukrainian mobile operator, the calls are free . i also want to remind you that the search for fifteen-year-old ilya polishchuk from mariupol is still ongoing . imagine that nothing has been known about the fate of this boy since the beginning of the full-scale war, the connection with elle was cut off on february 24th, and no one knows where he may be now, so i am appealing to everyone who sees me now, and

especially to the residents of mariupol, who may be are watching this program on social networks, look carefully at the photo of the boys, he looks 14-15 years old, he has light blond hair and dark eyes, if anyone has seen the boy, because he knows where he might be, don't delay now and call us on the hotline of the magnolia children's search service for short with the number 116,000, calls from any ukrainian mobile operator are free. if you do not have the opportunity to call, write to the chat bot service of the search for children in telegram , any information is important and i will ask for a minute for your attention, this is fifteen-year-old mark smorodin, who also lived in mariupol and also disappeared on february 24. last year, for one and a half years, there was no news about the child, where the boy might be, now no one knows , that's why your help is important

, look carefully at the photo and remember face, currant brand, he looks thin, he is 15 years old, he has light blond hair and dark eyes. if you know any information about the child, call us immediately at the short number 116 000. i will remind you that calls from any mobile operator free if suddenly there is no mobile connection, write to the chat bot of the child search service in telegram. believe me, even a small tip can be very important, we have created a resource thanks to which you can report any crime against a child in any city at any time simply go to the site and report and we will launch all possible

mechanisms for punishing the criminal of the five countries ua greetings to all viewers of the espresso tv channel , we are starting the information day with news , khrystyna parubiy works in the studio of the dead and two injured as a result of falling debris rockets in kyiv, the russians carried out a massive attack on the capital in four places of the shevchenkivskyi and darnytskyi districts , a fire broke out in the last moscow ironworks fell on the roof of a commercial building in shevchenkivskyi, on the administration building there was a