[000:00:00;00] today, we had a clear strategy to apply to our western partners, to western societies, including personally to mr. well, to the holy father, i’m sorry, i think that there would be fewer such statements and, accordingly , there would be fewer such doubts about whether it is worth helping ukraine it is necessary to change the approaches in the intellectual circles of the western world, and how to do it, it is done very simply, books are published about the history of ukraine and the history of russia. the so-called comparative history, when they show what was , say, in ukraine in the nineteen-tenths century and where was modern russia at that time, what frogs croaked there in those moscow

swamps that was in the middle of the er centuries when er in the sixteenth century we have a university and in muscovy children were afraid to send er to schools because they thought that education is bad and so on and so on. that is, all these things are completely understandable and reasonable, but they should also be directed by the state . unfortunately, we do not have it yet, but i really hope that we will live to see it when to a true story which changes the position of the intellectual elites. we will also start paying attention. i completely agree with you, volodymyr. moreover, regardless of the state, the historian serhii plakhov is very well positioned as cents in his books that are published in the west. but we have the state channel freedom, but for some reason he

speaks in russian and not in the languages ​​of non-european countries, i.e. we have a foreign language, but we don't have it. i absolutely agree with you that words and information policy are also weapons, like heimers, which are f16s, and like leopards and other weapons that help us to fight the russian federation because you know me. to be honest, as a citizen, it is simply infuriating when good russians appear on the freedom channels that you mentioned , who cannot clearly answer the question and what are we going to do with criminals who kill ukrainian women and children they are killing our heroes, but today we started a program with this terrible thing. in my opinion, from the plot of

the farewell to the legendary pilot jus. again, you know your father, we don't have any other speakers, only retelling what he said to us in good russian, by the way, and you correctly noted it, but to invite the same serhiy plokhia well, it doesn't work, probably not that editorial strategy, so to speak this channel and and this is simply evidence that , unfortunately, at the state level, we still do not understand where and how we should go in this very important informational and ideological work. and it is very sad because from this we suffering, i also wanted to ask you in continuation of this conversation about the state understanding of the peace formula, because today it was announced that in kyiv there will be a meeting of ambassadors working on the ukrainian peace formula this week, the office of the president of ukraine, who says that

more than 70 participants will gather at the meeting, several a few weeks ago, i had the novel immortal on the air, he says that maybe it would be worth talking about the peace formula in the text of ukraine only in order to simply unite more countries, and in the context of all the territories that are currently under control in the russian federation, in georgia, in moldova, in japan, there is a part of finland, at one time, the soviet union bit off the leningrad region, that is, does it make sense to talk about this formula of peace much more broadly, so that other countries that have suffered from the aggressive policy of the kremlin also have the opportunity to articulate the and to support this peace formula is not only a peace formula for ukraine for the world, because it stopped the territorial bites that russia regularly does with some frequency. well, i

think that on this topic we definitely let's return after the collapse of putin's regime, it is obvious that the end of this era of this next russian barbarism and vandalism will have as a consequence a review of what this barbaric regime has been doing for at least the last 30 years when you say that he absolutely rightly bit off the territory of the earth from his neighbors, not to mention those times after the second world war when he bit off a piece and a rather large piece of finland. so that's all on the agenda of our -e of the following stages and from this muscovy will not go anywhere and it seems to me that

this is how it will be immediately after putin's regime collapses, is it worth raising it now and making it a topic of direct discussion well, i don't know, i have certain doubts, now everything is actually focused on the topic victory for ukraine, so i think that uh, if uh, representatives of this really huge number of countries will be able to make real contributions, not verbal, but practical and very, very big, in order for us to take a decisive step forward, break the spine of our ugly russian uh- er er military machine and won the victory, then it seems to me that everything else will be only a matter of time and consequences, and then

the islands of the kuril ridges will return to finland, the part that russia took from it after the second world war will then return abkhazia and the southern section transnistria will then return to the territory of georgia in a single moldova . until then, all these conversations , it seems to me, can only distract attention, and what happened to us seems very ... unproductive we must speak now about the fact that ukraine's victory is everyone's victory, and therefore it is necessary to focus on this topic, volodymyr , the president of hungary, catalin novak, she announced that her country joins mir zelenskyi's formula, at the same time she says

about the fact that ukraine should enter into negotiations with the russian federation and participate in negotiations with moscow, the war has been going on for 1.5 years, i do not see any military solution that would lead to a stable to acute peace, therefore it is necessary to sit down at the negotiating table, i expressed this strong opinion the president, both publicly and personally, she said in an interview with the e-e index publication that this is quite a strange statement, in fact, because mir zelenskyi's formula assumes that any peace talks with moscow are possible only after the russian troops leave the territory of the ukrainian state. putin does not is going to leave the territory of the ukrainian state, or could it be that in the process of the withdrawal of russian troops there from the ukrainian territory from the crimea , for example, that ukraine will start at

some level there, at the lowest level, some negotiations with the russian federation or all of them will be absolutely unsuccessful because now for russia and ukraine it is not a time for diplomacy, but a time for military operations and the advantages of military superiority today i call him the horseman of the nuclear apocalypse, the eternally drunk medvedev wrote referring to the phrase, er, was once said by khrushchev regarding the west, that we will bury you, therefore, er, the statements of er, mrs. novak, the president of hungary, in this regard, at least cause surprise and , er, misunderstanding of what she is actually

talking about, but the truth is in this er- e quotes eh which you mentioned mr. serhiy, and it says that it is necessary to sit down at the negotiating table, so maybe she means herself. well, let her sit down, because she is the representative of the country who maintains contacts with the criminal through him, books cases , visits the russian federation and conducts negotiations about how to benefit from cooperation with the russian dictator. maybe then she really needs to go to putin. well, i don't know how long the table will be, 15 m or 20 m or 40 m. it's so important to start negotiations. and then let her if she declared that she supports the formula zelenskyi in the ukrainian formula, which provides that there will be no negotiations until the withdrawal of russian troops from the territory of ukraine, so let her conduct negotiations on the withdrawal of russian troops from the territory of ukraine, and this will be her great contribution to our

victory, we will only applaud and talk about other negotiations. it seems to me that it 's just either to demonstrate your complete professional unsuitability or just to speculate on this topic, you mentioned mr. volodymym, this is the horseman of the nuclear apocalypse , dmitry medvedev, there is another one there, the horseman is this volodymyr solovyuk and he offered to test tactical nuclear weapons in a robot, we know that the armed forces of ukraine liberated this settlement in zaporizhzhia, let's hear what another rider says. they gathered a bunch of ideal ones there, and for this offensive grouping was covered with a copper basin

. more able to move forward and very well liberated from zaporozhye and maybe even in the dnipropetrovsk region and to create a full cargo of that group that is fighting imperceptible encirclements and a rout. putin's regime and well, we seem to be used to these words to what they say. and they have been saying this for a year and a half or so . the west now has enough mechanisms to change the kremlin's rhetoric or screw up this rhetoric, is it very important for moscow to send these signals to its own population that they are so big and invincible? are they

trying to export fear to the west ? well, what they usually export. eh horseman i think he is just an information whore, nadiya solovyov should be put on the dots for the role of a horseman, well, he is not suitable for the role of a horseman, the truth is, and the first eh when in the stage all time to fall out of the saddles, but this one that’s for sure no eh, well, it’s a joke, so to speak, but if we’re talking seriously, eh, it’s exclusively pumping into our own population with hurray patriotic theses today, eh, gur, eh, informed us that it obtained information about what

in moscow, a new, so to speak, strategic line has been approved in the information war , the topics that must be paid attention to today, both in russia and abroad, and it is obvious that this internal heat must be raised -e internal temperature for all this to lie on such fertile soil. i think that putin was warned a long time ago what even an attempt to think about the use of tactical nuclear weapons would mean for him personally, and for some reason it seems to me that he heard this

information because he is very afraid for his life, but there are such people who openly call for the commission of war crimes. well , it seems to me that finally it is necessary not only to warn about their responsibility, but also to look for tools to realize this responsibility . i am delicately hinting at what if the drone flies into some window at the exact address, so maybe you just need to give this drone the correct address so that finally, these people who afford such things could no longer afford such things and went to a concert in kobzon, because uh, you understand the lack of reaction

, uh, practical reaction no no no no verbal non-verbal but practical reaction only encourages such statements and they are criminal in their essence . i will explain that it is obvious that we are talking about margarita simonyan, because drones were hit several times nearby somewhere in her neighborhood in moscow, and she constantly writes about it. well, god forbid that our drones be more accurate and hit those targets. where are they flying ? we will have to ask our colleagues of the special services for the address here so that they can clarify the details, and then i think that for many, after the first, by the way

, demonstration punishment, i think that for many the truth will be revealed and they will understand that it is better probably bite your propaganda tongues mr. volodymyr, i wanted to ask you about one more statement about volodymyr zelenskyi’s statement on crimea, he said that when the defense forces enter the administrative border with occupied crimea , it will be possible to push for the demilitarization of russia in crimea by political means, we will hear what the supreme command of there are fewer victims by the armed forces of ukraine if we are on administrative or conditional borders a-a with crimea a-a i believe that it is possible to politically

push for the demilitarization of russia on the territory ukrainian crimea i think it would be better, i think it is better well, i think, first of all, believe about those who will carry it out, what does the statement mean to push for the demilitarization of russia in crimea by political means, well, mr. serhiy , this clarifying question should be asked by ms. mosiychuk i didn't do it, and that's why we can only now guess what the president had in mind. but it seems to me that political pressure can be deciphered at least. this is my version . i'm just offering it to you. you just need to make it an island, and then the political solution will be the most optimal. and what does it mean to turn a peninsula into an island, it means to interrupt the supply chains of weapons, equipment and

personnel to the crimean territory and then there will be two options for action or to congratulate the russian group that i am in the territory of crimea today to the total destruction, even contactless , because in the case of when we will receive long-range missiles, in particular the taurus and others, it will be possible to do eh with eh freed

territory in front of crimea and then there will be an option either to destroy this group on the territory of crimea or a political decision that this group will leave there as it left near kherson from kherson and so on, that is, it seems to me that this option is really realistic, but only in that in the event that our armed forces are able to ensure that crimea is cut off from all supply chains by the russian federation, this definitely implies that the bridge across the kerch strait will follow the cruiser moscow for another three years therefore, when the crimean platform was held for the first time, it was about the political-diplomatic path to the liberation of crimea when we talk about the future separate when volodymyr zelenskyi speaks, well , obviously, we should also talk about

the national autonomy in crimea, which president poroshenko once spoke about started this conversation, but this conversation did not continue and it somehow hung in the air , it is clear that crimea must be liberated, the crimean peninsula, but here is the construction of what the future of crimea should be after liberation russia, is it time now and is it necessary to send signals, including to the crimean tatars, that you will be one of the owners of the crimean peninsula and, in principle, so that they understand what this is all about, mr. sergey , i will tell you that uh, i really wanted this year's

the crimean platform was actually the last one, why is this again such a clear hint that next august crimea will be finally and irrevocably freed from the russian horde, and then maybe we will hold a conference on the restoration of crimea as the restoration of the whole of ukraine as an integral part a constituent part of which crimea is and is , and i think it is necessary to prepare it already today, we must very clearly and clearly formulate the state policy regarding crimea, it must be clear and understandable and it is precisely under such circumstances that it will be supported by the crimean tatars er and karaims and crimeans er who er live on the territory of the peninsula and for whom the crimea is

their historical real homeland does not mean at all that ukrainians and other nationalities do not live there and therefore we will have to construct an absolutely understandable i repeat once again the clear and, most importantly, fair concept of post-war crimea as an integral part of ukraine where several indigenous peoples live and this is not, you know , a mystery behind the seven seals, there is a completely acceptable international experience when it is peaceful and the main thing is to successfully sing, live, cooperate and shape their common

future, representatives of different peoples on the territory of one or another that all e-e interests and of ukrainians and crimean tatars and representatives of other peoples were as much as possible in the supreme court and i think it is quite realistic and maybe now we really need to start gradual work in order to ultimately reach a very normal calm positive result on september 9-10, mr. volodymyr, a summit of a large 20 days before that, the brics itself took place in johan from burge, er, the big 20 will be held in india in judea, and

putin will not fly to this summit because piskov said that instead of it will be lavrov on behalf of the president and we have received an invitation. the ukrainian state basically says in new delhi that they will talk about the economic future and it is not about the russian-ukrainian war or that there will be any security issues. why according to your e-mail well, i seem to have understood the answers, and this is probably a rhetorical question. why do people in india believe that the economic future of india, including india, is not connected with the results of the end of the russian-ukrainian war with the future architecture of security in the world? well, actually, i i think they understand very well, but being in the current situation and maybe even under some political

pressure that still exists in relations between russia and india, they decided not to escalate relations with russia, because you rightly and completely rightly noted that the economy will be the central topic of this event, so regarding the economy and india's trade with russia, we remember how well it all started from russia's point of view, putin at all intersections and not only he shouted that well, we now we are calmly selling our oil to india for india was satisfied because it bought russian oil at dumping prices and it was bought for 30 billion dollars, the amount is really quite large, at the same time it

was able to sell its goods to russia for 6-7 billion dollars, but the peculiarity of this trade was that it took place in national currencies, and in russia there is nothing to buy in india for 23 billion dollars, and because of this, by the way, today russia actually no longer sells oil to india because it is not interested in accumulating currency that is not free converted. that is, it is actually only for bilateral trade relations, and they do not exist on such a scale, but you have the whole economy, so i think that india will also understand the trends very clearly and clearly, it is now taking a position and it does not want to take

the position of the truth, let's talk about it absolutely she sincerely wants to play some role of her own in this space of the global cock. she has her own ambitions , she clearly and clearly wants to demonstrate that she can also claim to be a certain center of power and therefore now become to because it will not be clear when russia loses, it is probably not an option for her yet. that is, she is watching the situation and will act according to how it will develop when ukraine wins . believe me, i think we will have a queue of indian politicians who congratulate the ukrainian leadership on the victory over russia

and say that the previous government , including the indian one, was probably very wrong , or they will say that we were simply misunderstood , if it turns out that way, believe me, everyone loves you winners and therefore including our ukrainian-indian relations will again depend on how quickly the ukrainian army will defeat the russian horde and then everything will change not only in the perimeter of the former ussr , which we just talked about, but also at the global level because the defeat of russia will mean the defeat of the world totalitarianism , and then such changes will begin that you and i cannot even dream of yet, but they will happen. and will the defeat of russia in ukraine be the defeat of china ? why am i asking about this now? informs

about the fact that putin will fly to the summit to the one belt one way forum, which will take place in october in china, and this will probably be putin's only trip abroad after that, a foreign trip after the international criminal court issued an arrest warrant for the president of russia even to turkey, putin is not flying and he is waiting for erdoğan on august 31 in sochi, well, it's true , putin is not traveling, or rather not departing, now i think i have to use the word non-departing, er, because there is no place to depart except er, china er, and why and that's why that is common border and intercepting such a plane well, in principle, it is quite difficult, but even in turkey, here the old woman is already puffing up, they say, i guessed that's why russia definitely remains a partner for china, and it does not want this partner to finally die. although if you look at